BAMF Mafia - Day Phase 2

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@Intelligence_06
Encryption is exactly that: encrypting the text using some algorithm and a key. Point is, you are fine with what you did so you can ignore my statement last phase. We can discuss further details in PM or End Game thread.
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@Mharman
Mafia would visit Croc instead of me and chances would be high that I would catch them
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@drafterman
thank you.
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@Intelligence_06
I don't know how to interpret that.... Are you glad to be corroborated or mad to be outed?
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@Crocodile
croc!

who'd you cop and why?
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@Speedrace
Ok, but why bleeder? Why not vanilla?
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I was mad that I did something that the mod thought is violating the rules. Looks there is no need to hide it anymore. I clarified that I was Mace Windu from dp1 and then I revealed info for town today that reveals my role. It is nothing either way.
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AGAIN, DO NOT LYNCH UNTIL WE GET CROC'S COP RESULT.
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@Mharman
Because I had already claimed that my character wasn't a weakling like skittlez or Danielle, so Mafia would know I was lying, but also town would know I was lying too.
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what is Stan's justification?
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@Speedrace
Ok, but why then would you claim your character wasn't a weakling? That seems counterproductive to hiding a PR.

Also, aren't their any other minor PRs you could've used other than bleeder?
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I was mad that I did something that the mod thought is violating the rules. Looks there is no need to hide it anymore. I clarified that I was Mace Windu from dp1 and then I revealed info for town today that reveals my role. It is nothing either way.
You watched SCUM do the NK in NP1.  That's always an impressive feat and game changer.
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*there
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@oromagi
Yep. It seems like that Speed is scum. If I see someone going to someone else's and the latter dies, it means that Speed is probably scum, especially since upon both claims, none of them explicitly have a killing ability.

I keep my vote on speed.
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@Mharman
Because I already had enough sus on me by Luna that I needed something other than Vanilla to not get lynched. And no I can't really think of any other minor PRs where I didn't have the risk of not getting CCd
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Oro seems pretty town to me. If he is supporting someone who is giving town useful info against the most suspicious person, he is basically town.
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@Intelligence_06
Mafia clearly has a Ninja so our results are worthless. Of course I visited Luna because he was my biggest scum read. And how else would I know he visited Croc?
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@Speedrace
You didn't want to get CC'd? Why not make the claim in DP1 when you are at the highest risk of getting lynched? Why claim DP2?
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Mharman               Stan                                VANILLA
SupaDudz             Dr Wm Marsh               DOCTOR


For me its down to Mharman vs Dudz.

Mharman has a hard to buy character claim
Supa has a hard to buy ROLE claim

I notice Mharman was about to check out before Speed got outed but has suddenly intensified his inquistion.
on the other hand
Dudz was last to claim.  TUF considered JAILKEEPER so close to DOC that he said that the COP and DOC were already out (meaning himself).  At the time, I didn't believe TUF's ROLE claim but as I said, JK and COP seems like overkill.

(my read that BLEEDER + REINCARNATOR was too much has already proved out)
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@Mharman
You didn't want to get CC'd? Why not make the claim in DP1 when you are at the highest risk of getting lynched? Why claim DP2?
I was never at risk of getting lynched and the whole point of this is to not tell scum my role which is why I didn't claim last DP (and I didn't know what I was gonna claim at that time). I claimed here because it would've been suspicious if I didn't claim when everyone else did
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@oromagi
For me its down to Mharman vs Dudz.

Mharman has a hard to buy character claim
Supa has a hard to buy ROLE claim

I notice Mharman was about to check out before Speed got outed but has suddenly intensified his inquistion.
on the other hand
Dudz was last to claim.  TUF considered JAILKEEPER so close to DOC that he said that the COP and DOC were already out (meaning himself).  At the time, I didn't believe TUF's ROLE claim but as I said, JK and COP seems like overkill.

(my read that BLEEDER + REINCARNATOR was too much has already proved out)
I agree that Dudz is probably scum. I don't buy JK + Doc
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@Speedrace
"Because speed visited Lunatic, and Lunatic died, it means that mafia has a ninja!"

This logic won't fool a top 5 debater. It is more of a causation that speed killed lunatic, at least more evident. There is zero evidence that there is a ninja at all.
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For me its down to Mharman vs Dudz.

Mharman has a hard to buy character claim
Supa has a hard to buy ROLE claim

I notice Mharman was about to check out before Speed got outed but has suddenly intensified his inquistion.
on the other hand
Dudz was last to claim.  TUF considered JAILKEEPER so close to DOC that he said that the COP and DOC were already out (meaning himself).  At the time, I didn't believe TUF's ROLE claim but as I said, JK and COP seems like overkill.

(my read that BLEEDER + REINCARNATOR was too much has already proved out)
I agree that Dudz is probably scum. I don't buy JK + Doc

so its Mharman then
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This logic won't fool a top 5 debater. 

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@oromagi
lol
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This is a debating website after all. Poor logic will be pointed out much quicklier because this is what the site basically is.
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This logic won't fool a top 5 debater. It is more of a causation that speed killed lunatic, at least more evident. There is zero evidence that there is a ninja at all.
From your position there isn't a Ninja; but I know there is.

Think about it. If there is a Watcher and Tracker, drafter gives Mafia a ninja which makes watcher and tracker basically vanillas in terms of balance. That just leaves cop + JK + reincarnator(?) which is  much more balanced vs whatever scum has. JK + Cop + Watcher + Reincarnator? With just TWO scum? You'd be crazy to think that's balanced.

And again, how would I know Luna visited Croc if I wasn't really a tracker
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@Speedrace
If you were never at risk of getting lynched, then why did you need to claim a minor PR instead of vanilla in order to not get lynched?

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@Crocodile
GET IN HERE. WE NEED YOUR RESULT.
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@Mharman
I claimed a minor PR this round to not reveal to mafia that a tracker exists. They think they're sitting pretty with just the cop and JK out of the way so it's in my favor to not claim my real role. But if I claim a vanilla then town lynches me because I already said that my character isn't a weakling. Hence, I'm forced to claim a minor PR.

And I've fake claimed as town multiple times before, pretty sure I did it last game too