Technology Mafia - DP1

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I'm just trying to start some conversation. We have already narrowed down on some of the possibilities... the most obvious theme splits won't be any help. We know that now. We didn't before. Guess what? That's helpful information.

Also, I don't see any other activity in the town, do you? We may not be able to identify theme split, but this is a hell of a lot better than nothing. If you don't like it, you could always bring something new to the table. 
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The best bet is just to pressure everyone to claim and find the odd one out. If the scum can find good fakeclaims then kudos to them, but the scum will probably leave marks that shows that they are nothing more than just fabricating things unfit to within this theme.
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no current reads game is kinda dead rn
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Yeah. Danielle just kinda voted out of no reason and That1 posted null. Currently no one seems really scummy at all...

Might go for a VTNL today if people are just gonna lurk around like this. This is rolemad and any lynch without behavioral excuses would do bad to the town.
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unless we find a good person to rb i wont use it 
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It's useless to rely on theme analysis
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. Danielle just kinda voted out of no reason 
people vote for no reason at the start of games as a joke 
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That is the point. If people doesn't even bother to analyze what is going on, then it is essentially useless to the town.
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Added09.30.20 11:52AM
It's useless to rely on theme analysis
Well it still stimulates discussion. Discussion motivates other inactive people to be active, and that is good. Anything related to mafia discussed in this thread is positive utility as long as it is basically not detrimental to the town.

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As for theme split. I have a few ideas...

1. could be Manufacturer vs Everybody. Like Apple v. World or Microsoft v. World.

2. Could be a certain type of tech. Like computers vs. phones. Or tablets vs. everyone.

3. It could have to do with OS. Like macOS or Windows, maybe even Linux. 

We can analyze as people claim... I have a feeling it's something like the options above, though. 
My character claim is more conceptual- a field of research in computing.  No specific OS, software, device or brand is specified.
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  • That1user is AWOL
  • Lunatic and Danielle have not advised regarding wincon
  • I am down with VTL'ing skittlez for false claim or That1user for noshow

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TOWN
N. oromagi
N. MisterChris
N. Intelligence_06
N. ILikePie5
N. Speedrace
N. SupaDudz
N. BearMan
8. Lunatic
7. Danielle
(W)N. skittlez09                 VPN      ROLEBLOCKER
AWoL
10. That1User
SCUM


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If That1 doesn't show, she's the obvious candidate.
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Official Vote Count

Supa (2/6) - Danielle, Lunatic,
That1 (1/6) - oro,
Bearman (1/6) - skittle,
Speed (1/6) - pie,

Not voting: speed, Bear, Intel, That1, Chris, Supa,

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VTL That1User for activity.
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VTL that1user 

dont hammer just yet 

how long do yall think we should wait? 
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its better to get inactives voted out otherwise we'll be screwed later 
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its been two days wya?
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VTL That1user

Of a game where there isn't exactly any clear scums being able to tell, the person that does the least to the town should get the vote.

This is not a hammer. It is only 4 yet.
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Seriously, let's not jump to lynchwagons on the first DP for no apparent reason on the first DP. Let's wait and discuss. We only have 139 posts and were quick on this train
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Why do you consider skittlez as a false claim?
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Dis guy just used that someone else voted as a reason that they voted. Again, WHY did you vote SUPA?
VTL intelligence.

There, that better?
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Provide reasons then.
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Provide reasons then.
Your reaction to RVS was overtly defensive, especially for another person. It's likely you were trying to build town cred.
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Why do you consider skittlez as a false claim?
is there some other interpretation?

wassup yall im VPNs an i protect yo privacy by securely connecting you to the VPN provider, who then interfaces with a internet or the internet for u. im also pretty used in corporate environments so employees can access the company network safetly. im a rb i win with town.
Unprompted, PRO claims a leans-scum ROLE and offers 4 sentences we are meant to interpret as a paraphrase of his PM.  The fourth sentence clearly claims a wincon is an ordinary format we've seen as recently as last game.  70% of the remaining town reports no wincon in their PM and the remaining 30% has failed to report.

oops mb it doesnt say that 

ive been in so many games with the wincon i didnt even notice lol
but skitz isn't looking at old PM's, he's apparently looking at the PM Bullish gave him and apparently decided to manufacture a wincon when he noticed he had none, assuming that like most games, TOWN would have some standard wincon.  This is a fairly classic scum slip and (combined with role claim) the odds that skitz is SCUM is much higher than we usually get in DP1.  The argument for keeping him alive is that uncareful, inattentive scum can be tricked into revealing more about their partners.
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but skitz isn't looking at old PM's, he's apparently looking at the PM Bullish gave him and apparently decided to manufacture a wincon when he noticed he had none, assuming that like most games, TOWN would have some standard wincon.  This is a fairly classic scum slip and (combined with role claim) the odds that skitz is SCUM is much higher than we usually get in DP1.  
For once... I really agree with this scum read. He had to have been reading his PM to paraphrase it, unless he created a new one from scratch  (something a scum would do, obviously.) 

The question is, why would he claim day 1 as scum?
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The question is, why would he claim day 1 as scum?

Well, he's claimed day 1 scum or town in all recent games, right?  - maybe somebody else can research the numbers.  Failure to claim anything right off the bat would seems suspicious now.  GP always claims DP1 and when he fails to claim he's usually sus'd for it.  (if I remember right, the last time he failed to claim DP1 he was in fact scum).  Even if skitz's instinct as scum was to remain quiet, he may have gotten pressure from scum mates to claim RB early and hope for cred.

If skitz had not claimed anything by this point, he might have been read as even more scummy than fake claiming.
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The question is, why would he claim day 1 as scum?

On the other hand, he could be some kind of IED trying to lure the lynch or investigation.
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Yes I get the wincon, but you again are misinterpreting who made this. It's skittlez. He is very careless and probably didn't do anything. And if there is no wincon and he claimed RB, it would make sense that we would draw sus because of the no wincon. Skittlez probably wanted to make sure people knew he was town and said it without realizing. I can't speak on his behalf, but people do this all the time and they turn town. This is the same narrative we keep pushing and we keep losing because of it. 

I don't rule it out, but I think you're jumping to too many conclusions on random things imo
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Hmm.. I'm torn. Either way, a lynch of Skittlez wouldn't be a big loss, as RB tends to be more harmful than not...