Avatar The Last Airbender Mafia DP1

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I'm really hoping that it was Supa that liked the post
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Oro liked the post.
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Oro liked the post.
and how do u know this? lmao 
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How do you want to move forward with the day phase? 
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@warren42
Greyparrot, whiteflame, and croc are all town to varying degrees, lunatic and danielle are also both probably town, but less confident in them

That leaves Speedrace, MisterChris, skittlez09, LikePie5 and Bearman who has already claimed. How would you like to move forward with the day phase? 





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Tracker isn’t necessarily affiliation indicative since Mafia Version of Trackers are fairly common.

I think we should get a couple of character claims going to see if we can get theme analysis to a certain extent.

I think Lunatic and Speed should character claim. 3 characters for now should be sufficient 

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Okay so discussion of the Toph claim:

She's a blind 12 year old who's the best earthbender in the world. She's able to "see" with her feet by feeling the vibrations in the ground (think similar to the superhero Daredevil if that helps?)

Using "sensory underground attacks to locate the opponent's position" isn't a great justification honestly. I don't know if the poor link is a result of paraphrasing or if it's a fake claim, but if Supa is a big enough fan of the show to make a game around it, I don't like this justification.

I don't want to harp on this too much but there are also both better roles for Toph and better fits for tracker.
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Still working on getting fully caught up but at the moment I'm not a huge fan of BearMan's claim
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Tracker isn’t necessarily affiliation indicative since Mafia Version of Trackers are fairly common.

I think we should get a couple of character claims going to see if we can get theme analysis to a certain extent.

I think Lunatic and Speed should character claim. 3 characters for now should be sufficient 

Yeah I'm not assuming Bear is town, but there's no need for me to focus on him atm unless we determine whatever character he claimed is sus per theme. I know nothing about the theme or if the mod gives fake claims, but I'm down to get Speed's claim. Why both Luna and Speed though - you don't think one will suffice? Luna's eagerness and willingness to give it up is making me feel pretty indifferent about it. He's either town or scum with a fake claim. 
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BearMan- You are Toph. You are blind, and despite your parents, you go with Aang and his group. You are good at earthending and also are good at metal bending. Using sensory from underground attacks, you can determine your opponent's position. You are a Tracker. Each night you may choose someone to track, and you will know who they go to. You win with town.
The bolded is what I really take issue with here. Like they aren't attacks, and describing any of her "attacks" as "underground" doesn't make a *ton* of sense anyway. For those who haven't watched the show watch this quick video that will explain how she "sees" despite being blind.

Like I said I don't think she makes a ton of sense as a tracker
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Are you familiar with the theme or just Googling characters?  Which players in this game are familiar with Avatar? I assume quite a bit. 
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 Which players in this game are familiar with Avatar? 
i grew up with the show an still watch it now an than 


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This is the boldest and worst fishing for claims I've ever seen. Also GreyParrot claimed Momo and vanilla right at the beginning of the phase, so we already have two.
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Like I said I don't think she makes a ton of sense as a tracker

Gotta be honest ~ it makes sense to me after watching the YouTube (but I don't know anything about anime or Avatar) 
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I didn't make the justification, I've never watched avatar.
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@Danielle
Familiar with the theme. I watched as a kid, rewatched two years ago, and ended up watching much of it with my roommate and girlfriend when each of them watched when it arrived on Netflix. I'm also relatively familiar with the extended universe. Haven't read the comics but am a little nerdy when it comes to this so I've poked around online forums and I've watched the sequel show, The Legend of Korra. Not sure how much content outside of the show but within the universe would apply though.
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I don't want to harp on this too much but there are also both better roles for Toph and better fits for tracker.
I'm right there with you on this, much as I've only just familiarized myself with what a Tracker is. It's a strange choice for Toph, hence I'm still iffy on BearMan, though it's not so unlikely of a choice that I'd dismiss it outright.
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@BearMan
So your defense against me being suspicious of the justification being bad is that you've never seen the show? So your lack of familiarity with it, which would likely mean a bad fake claim, means you... couldn't have made the fake claim? I dunno.
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Since when has it been the player's fault for a mediocre justification from the mod?
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@warren42
bears claim is iffy ill give it that 

it'd make alot more sense for toph to be a more powerful role 

when she joined team avatar s2 she became the muscle of the group 

anyone who hasnt seen the show just watch this


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Also, in general, I'm decently familiar with Avatar the Last Airbender in terms of mechanics and how certain characters work, but I haven't seen enough of the series to be anything close to expert.
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@BearMan
The claim is that you modified what you received from SupaDudz. You can claim otherwise, as I'm sure you do, but I see his point as valid.
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@Danielle
I'm right there with you on this, much as I've only just familiarized myself with what a Tracker is. It's a strange choice for Toph, hence I'm still iffy on BearMan, though it's not so unlikely of a choice that I'd dismiss it outright.
In response to what you said about how it made sense to you after watching the youtube video I completely agree with what whiteflame is saying above. It makes enough sense that I could see it, but little enough sense that I'm a bit suspicious, especially when coupled with an okay but not great justification. I'll try to come up with an example that makes more sense as a comparison for you
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@BearMan
Dude that's... exactly my point. I expect the role and characters to fit better and with better justification, so you saying you haven't seen the show and having a subpar justification makes me think it ISN'T from the mod
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i gtg ill be active tonight 
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@Danielle
Why both Luna and Speed though - you don't think one will suffice? Luna's eagerness and willingness to give it up is making me feel pretty indifferent about it. He's either town or scum with a fake claim. 
I still have an FOS on Lunatic. I’m thinking it as sort of a compromise 
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This is the boldest and worst fishing for claims I've ever seen. Also GreyParrot claimed Momo and vanilla right at the beginning of the phase, so we already have two.
Clearly no one sees it like you do. I’m trying to move forward to another angle. If you want to call that fishing then that’s fine, but I’m looking at my personal FOS and the FOS of others.

I frankly forgot of GP’s claim. I’m fine with it just at 3 characters
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@warren42
The mod gave me a subpar justification. You can believe what you want, you can even lynch me, but the justification ain't mine.