The Stand Mafia Day Phase 2

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"He is a young professional musician; while not actually a bad person, Larry has spent much of his life being reckless, immature and self-centered."
Woof

Verbatim from the wiki, Pie is town as far as I'm concerned barring fake claims
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@ILikePie5
And, hey, I took up your mantle! Though, in all seriousness, it does seem to fit your character claim (not that I have any clue about this character beyond skimming a Wiki article).
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@drafterman
Thoughts on my Miller claim?
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There is no suggestive evidence that validates a lynch besides behaviors. Hypothetical it's a 6v3, if we lynch and mafia kills its a 4v3. Interesting. It doesn't matter what way we go with the lynch then
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@ILikePie5
Why are you asking for a reaction to a Miller claim?
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@ILikePie5
I buy it.
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@Vader
Why are you asking for a reaction to a Miller claim?
I wanna see what he thinks. If it fits with his past gameplay
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Supa seems overly aggressive this game for some reason. It isn’t like him as a townie.

Whenever he’s scum he’s generally rash and aggressive in what he does.

VTL Supa for claim
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@ILikePie5
Yea but why do you feel the need to ask. IMO that felt weird. There's no need to ask for thoughts on your own claim when you know what your claim is.
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@Vader
Yea but why do you feel the need to ask. IMO that felt weird. There's no need to ask for thoughts on your own claim when you know what your claim is.
Why can’t I ask if Drafter believes my claim?
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@ILikePie5
I'm not saying you can't. But why do you need drafter's validation for your own claim if it's your actual claim
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@Vader
Because I rock. Now let's get Elminster
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@ILikePie5
Supa seems overly aggressive this game for some reason. It isn’t like him as a townie.

???? 
I am not being aggressive. In fact I was more aggressive with lynching Water last game as town. 
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@Vader
I'm not saying you can't. But why do you need drafter's validation for your own claim if it's your actual claim
What?

I don’t need validation lol. I know my role. I’m asking if Drafter believes it because it’s a Miller claim. 
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@drafterman
I take my time to vote unless someone is scum confirmed
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@ILikePie5
But why specifically drafter? Why do you specifically want him to believe it?
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@Vader
???? 
I am not being aggressive. In fact I was more aggressive with lynching Water last game as town. 
Your “questioning” was pretty aggressive.
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@ILikePie5
Am I not allowed to question you?
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"No one can tell what goes on in between the person you were and the person you become. No one can chart that blue and lonely section of hell. There are no maps of the change. You just come out the other side. Or you don't."

Elminster- 1/5- Drafterman
Supadudz- 1/5- iLikePie5
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@Vader
But why specifically drafter? Why do you specifically want him to believe it?
I don’t want him to believe it. I need to know if he believes it because of his past play in a game.
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Because I've been vocal about blindly accepting miller claims in the past, to the point of complaining that this acceptance has taken a role that is suppose to be negative utility and has turned it into a free confirmed townie.

He is evaluating my response here against that baseline to see if my behavior here indicates I'm scum.

Now, can we set that aside and lynch Elminster?
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@Vader
Am I not allowed to question you?
I never said that. The fact you’re continuously going on and on is what’s concerning. 

Lemme ask you this: do your scum read me?
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@ILikePie5
Not at the moment I do not, but I have an FoS on both you and drafter because of this interaction
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@Vader
Not at the moment I do not, but I have an FoS on both you and drafter because of this interaction
So you don’t believe the Miller claim? Should I be policy lynched?
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@MisterChris
Any thoughts? You mysteriously disappeared after basically saying wtf
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@drafterman
Because I've been vocal about blindly accepting miller claims in the past, to the point of complaining that this acceptance has taken a role that is suppose to be negative utility and has turned it into a free confirmed townie.

He is evaluating my response here against that baseline to see if my behavior here indicates I'm scum.
He's evaluating your response? That's not what it looks like. It looks like he's asking you for your thoughts on his role which you responded to "I believe it," as he stated in the post that he said he wants to know. How does you believe him as scum or town indicate his behavior when you said it functions as a confirmed townie? If you are buying his claim, aren't you falling victim to the same trap, when he posted in the DP2 versus in DP1 where he posted 3 things before claiming

Now, can we set that aside and lynch Elminster?

I said I like to take my time voting, similar to Nevada
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@ILikePie5
Did I suggest that I don't buy the miller claim in that interaction, no. At the moment, I am neutral on the claim. I am not eager to lynch anyone based on the little info I collected
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@Vader
It doesn't indicate his behavior. It indicates mine.
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@Vader
He's evaluating your response? That's not what it looks like. It looks like he's asking you for your thoughts on his role which you responded to "I believe it," as he stated in the post that he said he wants to know. How does you believe him as scum or town indicate his behavior when you said it functions as a confirmed townie? If you are buying his claim, aren't you falling victim to the same trap, when he posted in the DP2 versus in DP1 where he posted 3 things before claiming
Whoa 3 things?

Once again would you like to policy lynch me?

I said I like to take my time voting, similar to Nevada
Nevada?
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@drafterman
Yes, but yet again, you said you believe it. What makes it different from what you claimed before that Miller is essentially acting as confirmed townie. You said you believe the claim. Wouldn't that counteract your logic?