The Stand Mafia Day Phase 2

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Incorrect. Elm had votes from Drafter and whiteflame on the first page and I just read it and skimmed and asked, why the fuck are we lynching. 
Since when is having 2 votes lynching?
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Please point me to a post where I explicitly said "Lynching now is bad." I gave a statement about the pros and cons to both is the most I've said
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Yes. That's how raids work. You get breaks in between fights
That's how it is... normally. We all have real life, then play the game when we have breaks. If a raid is no different then there is no reason to call it out unless it is going to prevent you from playing. It clearly isn't preventing him from playing when it is convenient.

Furthermore, why are you making his case for him?

No, your premise is off your philosophy 
No it isn't.

This makes no sense. You said he wants to bait a reaction from you, and when you give a contrary opinion from what you state, I shouldn't take it as scum. All you are doing is tunneling Elm off a theory argument that does nothing for the DP to force a lynch

My vote on Elm has nothing to do with mafia theory.
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@whiteflame
I just read it back. I misread. I thought you did because you and drafter have similar avatar color. 
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@Vader
You said you wanted to not lynch, right? woof

And now you do
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Alright, makes sense I guess.
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I can argue the same with you and Drafter. Why do you have to test drafter out of all people over something he said months ago.
If he goes back on what he said, he’s scum. If he doesn’t then he’s null. It was supposed to be a gotcha to catch scum lol, not so hard to understand.

Even if that isn't the case, why are you not calling out drafter for basically going against his own logic and reasoning? I also am not buddying Elm cuz I'm clearly voting
What logic and reasoning lol. You’re making zero sense right now. You’re assuming that I’m using Miller as a fake claim to fool Drafter into thinking I’m town, so why tf is your vote on him and not me?
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@Speedrace
Never said it besides that one statement, and that didn't even closely imply that I said I wanted to VTNL
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Please point me to a post where I explicitly said "Lynching now is bad." I gave a statement about the pros and cons to both is the most I've said
That was literally fluff lol. You said you didn’t want to lynch, now you want to lynch Drafter?
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I can argue the same with you and Drafter. Why do you have to test drafter out of all people over something he said months ago.
If he goes back on what he said, he’s scum. If he doesn’t then he’s null. It was supposed to be a gotcha to catch scum lol, not so hard to understand.

He literally did that

Even if that isn't the case, why are you not calling out drafter for basically going against his own logic and reasoning? I also am not buddying Elm cuz I'm clearly voting
What logic and reasoning lol. You’re making zero sense right now. You’re assuming that I’m using Miller as a fake claim to fool Drafter into thinking I’m town, so why tf is your vote on him and not me?

He said that he buys you as town, but said he doesn't believe Miller should be written off as town, but has you as town with only 3 posts and a claim
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@ILikePie5
I never said I don't want to lynch ever. This is a lie
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@Vader
Never said it besides that one statement, and that didn't even closely imply that I said I wanted to VTNL
Looked at your posts and you're right

woof
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He literally did that
What? Where? He literally said he believes I’m legitimately the Miller and hence Town lol.

He said that he buys you as town, but said he doesn't believe Miller should be written off as town, but has you as town with only 3 posts and a claim
Well ya no shit Sherlock 
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Meow

Thank you. I'm going to respond to a couple of more pings that come in and then going to work on my story and listen to music
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I never said I don't want to lynch ever. This is a lie
You’re telling me that: “why the fuck are we lynching” isn’t a support of VTNL? 
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He literally did that
What? Where? He literally said he believes I’m legitimately the Miller and hence Town lol.

He said that he buys you as town, but said he doesn't believe Miller should be written off as town, but has you as town with only 3 posts and a claim
Well ya no shit Sherlock 

Yes, but that contrast what he literally said where he says that you shouldn't put Millers as instant scum. He literally said me you and him were town bickering, thus putting you in town, going against his belief
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And yes it isn't. It was a reactionary to seeing Elm being voted quickly in the DP without any leads in the NP
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Yes, but that contrast what he literally said where he says that you shouldn't put Millers as instant scum. He literally said me you and him were town bickering, thus putting you in town, going against his belief
What are you even saying dude. This is literally contradictory
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And yes it isn't. It was a reactionary to seeing Elm being voted quickly in the DP without any leads in the NP
What? There was literally 1 vote and that was Drafter lol. How is this any different then a regular DP lmao
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Woof

I'm going to sleep, I'm erring on vtnling after Danielle checks in. All of this just sounds like town bicker with the potential for scum to get a mislynch
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I bet you if we stopped talking about Supa and started talking about Elminster he'd magically have another raid break.
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Yes. That's how raids work. You get breaks in between fights
That's how it is... normally. We all have real life, then play the game when we have breaks. If a raid is no different then there is no reason to call it out unless it is going to prevent you from playing. It clearly isn't preventing him from playing when it is convenient.

Furthermore, why are you making his case for him?
Your reading him off the fact he is checking in the game for a break. This is a bullshit reason to scum read someone

No, your premise is off your philosophy 
No it isn't.
"Because I've been vocal about blindly accepting miller claims in the past, to the point of complaining that this acceptance has taken a role that is suppose to be negative utility and has turned it into a free confirmed townie."

You put him in town pile by saying "Elminster went quiet because Pie, Supa, and I are all town and it's in scums interest to let town bicker among themselves."

Why did you put Pie in town pile


This makes no sense. You said he wants to bait a reaction from you, and when you give a contrary opinion from what you state, I shouldn't take it as scum. All you are doing is tunneling Elm off a theory argument that does nothing for the DP to force a lynch

My vote on Elm has nothing to do with mafia theory.

Your reason for Elm has been

"Anyway Elminster won't rage this time, not because he promise, but because he's actually scum and he'll get reamed by his team mates if he throws again with the lead they've developed.

Eli is scum if only for this half assed attempt to rile me up for no reason. This fake indignation screams scum.

He didn't try to rile me up last game when he was town. He just caved and imploded. His behavior here is different."
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@drafterman
I bet you if we stopped talking about Supa and started talking about Elminster he'd magically have another raid break.
I’m like 80% sure Supa is scum. “Why the hell are we lynching” when there’s only one vote? Gimme a break
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@ILikePie5
There's no point in arguing anymore because you don't understand my point
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There's no point in arguing anymore because you don't understand my point
Cause you literally don’t have a point
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@ILikePie5
Keep believing me saying why the fuck are we vtl'ing means that I said to VTNL when it never specifically said that. Lol not gonna argue this
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@ILikePie5
Yes I do but you aren't reading. No point
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@Vader
Your reading him off the fact he is checking in the game for a break. This is a bullshit reason to scum read someone.
Magically being active exactly at the right time to defend yourself strains credulity.


Why did you put Pie in town pile

Because you can only lynch one person a day. Today is not Pie's day.
Your reason for Elm has been

"Anyway Elminster won't rage this time, not because he promise, but because he's actually scum and he'll get reamed by his team mates if he throws again with the lead they've developed.

Eli is scum if only for this half assed attempt to rile me up for no reason. This fake indignation screams scum.

He didn't try to rile me up last game when he was town. He just caved and imploded. His behavior here is different."
Ah, I see. You don't know what "Mafia Theory" means then. The above is supplementary stuff after I decided he was scum.
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@Vader
Keep believing me saying why the fuck are we vtl'ing means that I said to VTNL when it never specifically said that. Lol not gonna argue this
What else does this mean lol that Elm was in risk of being lynched with 1 vote on him?