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Supa told you that you got redirected?
Yup
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This is literally getting us nowhere. We’re not gonna be lynching anytime soon if we continue with these character claims.

We have a candidate to lynch and that’s Water. He’s literally flip flopped on scum reading Speed. He said he was 50/50 on Speed at the end and then now says that he thought I was scum cause my vote was on Speed.

If he thought I was scum why would he redirect my scum to someone he clearly townread. It logically makes no sense.

Redirectors don’t seem townie to me as any logical townie would waive. Clearly Water didn’t do that. That in itself is scummy. It’s obvious he’s scum of you just look at his flip flopping everywhere.
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If anything Water’s flip would give us information about Speed’s affiliation to a fuller extent, especially given the fact he was quick to jump to the fact there was a redirector specifically
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I'd agree with you if this wasn't WP we are talking about. The role itself is something I'm so unfamiliar with that I can't say it aligns with either side, but the flip flopping behavior doesn't seem out of place for him. I agree that it's worth us zeroing in on a lynch, but I don't think that WP looks sus enough to warrant that lynch. I also don't really understand the choice of target if he is scum, and given that you've basically verified that, Pie, I'm loathe to agree to a lynch on him.

Right now, though I don't have any solid reads, my choice would be between That1User (I'm tagging Ragnar in this because I just noticed that That1's character claim of Rias Gremory isn't on his list) and Drafterman, the former for both behavioral reasons and for a character claim that I don't buy, and the latter because of sheer obstinance.

As for any other reads, I largely agree with Speedrace's post #90. The only deviation I have is that I'm still null on Pie. Can't say I read him as town yet.
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@ILikePie5
Absolutely not, WP is the towniest here. Your whole argument assumes WP knows how to play the role but clearly he doesn't
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@whiteflame
I know That1's role, so I'm fine with drafter

VTL Drafter
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@Speedrace
I believe I know it as well, though I'm still not convinced he's town. Still, I'll go with you. We'll see if Draft sticks to his guns.

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VTL Draft
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Apologies: she, not he.
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Speedrace [1/6] drafterman
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drafterman [2/6] Speedrace, whiteflame

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@Speedrace
Absolutely not, WP is the towniest here. Your whole argument assumes WP knows how to play the role but clearly he doesn't
He had his scum buddies help him out, which I strongly believe is you. Either way his behavior says enough that he’s scum since he couldn’t have scum read me because he didn’t townread you.
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@whiteflame
I still don’t know why you’re after character claims. There are so many animes out there. Supa is known to give fake claims. It’s impossible to do thematic analysis unless you’ve seen every anime in question.

Either vote to lynch or vote for roles
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@Speedrace
I know That1's role, so I'm fine with drafter

VTL Drafter
How do you know her role?
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@ILikePie5
I disagree, but I've already stated my position on the matter. I am familiar with every anime that has been mentioned so far. Love to get roles, but people have been disinclined so far. 
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How do you know her role?
That's a secret
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@whiteflame
I disagree, but I've already stated my position on the matter. I am familiar with every anime that has been mentioned so far. Love to get roles, but people have been disinclined so far. 
Drafter isn’t gonna give it to you. He’s already said that. I’m not gonna help you pressure him. It’s obvious Water is scum.
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@ILikePie5
Supa is known to give fake claims.
Is he? He didn't in his last game
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@Speedrace
That's a secret
Care to share these secrets you’ve been hiding from us?
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@ILikePie5
He had his scum buddies help him out, which I strongly believe is you. Either way his behavior says enough that he’s scum since he couldn’t have scum read me because he didn’t townread you.
So I as scum would forget to tell Water to not reveal that he's the redirector? What?

Besides that fact, again your argument assumes that Water is scum because he didn't waive. But he isn't familiar with the role so of course he didn't waive
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Is he? He didn't in his last game
Yes if I remember correctly 
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I think your analysis on WP doesn't make any sense. And you're probably right about Draft, but I'd sooner lynch him than lynch WP, who is also one of my stronger town reads.
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Care to share these secrets you’ve been hiding from us?
Nope, whiteflame knows and that's enough
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Yes if I remember correctly 
Doubt it because I was scum last time and didn't get fake claims
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@Speedrace
So I as scum would forget to tell Water to not reveal that he's the redirector? What?
To the contrary, you would need em to do that 

Besides that fact, again your argument assumes that Water is scum because he didn't waive. But he isn't familiar with the role so of course he didn't waive
No, I’m saying he was ordered by scum to redirect my actions.

Barring all of this, he behavior itself is scummy. He was null on you, not town.
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@whiteflame
I think your analysis on WP doesn't make any sense. And you're probably right about Draft, but I'd sooner lynch him than lynch WP, who is also one of my stronger town reads.
What part of it doesn’t make sense to you. And I’m not lynching Drafter over Water. That’s just retarded when we have a claimed redirector which is a scummy af role
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@Speedrace
Nope, whiteflame knows and that's enough
How does Whiteflame know That1’s role?
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@ILikePie5
Not sure why you believe the role itself is scummy, but the fact that he chose you as his target and you basically verified that action doesn't exactly scream "scum" to me. In general, it doesn't make sense that he'd claim to have taken this action at all if he was scum, especially if the role has a scummy connotation. Also, if he was scum, why would he redirect to Croc, the claimed Hated? 
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How does Whiteflame know That1’s role?

I have a strong hunch.
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@whiteflame
Not sure why you believe the role itself is scummy, but the fact that he chose you as his target and you basically verified that action doesn't exactly scream "scum" to me. In general, it doesn't make sense that he'd claim to have taken this action at all if he was scum, especially if the role has a scummy connotation. Also, if he was scum, why would he redirect to Croc, the claimed Hated? 
A.) You don’t know he’s the redirector

B.) Claiming Redirector benefits one person and one person only - Speed

C.) Speed was the one screaming Redirector at the top of his lungs

D.) Croc was a safe target who no one would both visiting as a watched or other roles. I’ve explained this.

E.) If Water is town there was no reason for him to choose Croc. His excuse for scum reading me is fake considering he flip flopped and didn’t even think Speed was town.
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@ILikePie5
To the contrary, you would need em to do that 
Not when it puts him at risk of being lynched

No, I’m saying he was ordered by scum to redirect my actions.
That's begging the question, it assumes he's scum

Barring all of this, he behavior itself is scummy. He was null on you, not town.
And? That doesn't mean he can't redirect someone