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Of course he would change his answer from Tracker to Watcher when CC'd when just about everyone said that Elf on the Shelf makes more sense as Watcher than Tracker.

He made a bad claim, got caught, and is changing his answer to the better one others thought of.

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Water is not on my carol list. It is just as possible that Scum has a tracker or watcher role and saw Luna visit me. You all should play this out. Assuming White, and likely drafter are scum, what happens if you ignore my findings and go with the water lynch. You are then down a townie and still have my hated role in the game. We know my hated role is legit since, as it turns out there was a TP and it wasn't me.

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@LikeMagic

That is complete insanity. Water claimed first. Misterchris said nothing until this DP. You should wait for water to come on and explain first. You are so scummy.

This is a pretty cut and dry CC situation. Misterchris confirmed that I visited you with his results so he has more cred here. Also if he is wrong, we can still afford the mislynch even with hated townie, meaning if water is town we just lynch chris tomorrow for confirmed scum. Despite me having been suspect of drafter previously, I don't agree that lynching the CC'ed person over the CC'er is scummy except in lylo situations.

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WaterPhoenix (Lunatic, drafterman, MisterChris, oromagi) -- 4/6 votes

whiteflame (Magic) -- 1/6 votes

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@drafterman

YOU ARES SCUM FOR SURE, You literally said that Elf could be watcher. You wanted clarity on this last DP to identify the threat to scum. It is common for tracker/watchers to fake claim the alternative to throw off scum.

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@WaterPhoenix

i'd like to clarify the full claim i made last dp. i am not a tracker i am a WATCHER.

In the offchance you are town here, you still deserve to be lynched. This type of laziness is unnaceptable.

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@LikeMagic

YOU ARES SCUM FOR SURE, You literally said that Elf could be watcher. You wanted clarity on this last DP to identify the threat to scum. It is common for tracker/watchers to fake claim the alternative to throw off scum.

He was on the same time as water wasn't he? Why wouldn't he have made water fix the mistake last day phase?

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@Lunatic

Are you confirming caroler?

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@LikeMagic

YOU ARES SCUM FOR SURE, You literally said that Elf could be watcher. You wanted clarity on this last DP to identify the threat to scum. It is common for tracker/watchers to fake claim the alternative to throw off scum.

No it isn't.

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@oromagi

Are you confirming caroler?

I'd rather not answer this, I will confirm visiting magic though.

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@Lunatic

misterchris had a long time to cc the claim and we all acknowledge that tracker can be a scum role. I CANNOT BELIEVE that I am pretty much confirmed town, got a result FROM YOU that confirms my analysis and read on White and am still being ignored by town. Will have to discuss in postmortam wtf I should do differently to convince town in the future.

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@LikeMagic

It is common for tracker/watchers to fake claim the alternative to throw off scum.

You honestly think WP was this big brained?

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@LikeMagic

Also, no one is saying to ignore your findings. But 1 scum among 2 is better odds than 1 among 3. We get water today then tomorrow look at the carol

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He was on the same time as water wasn't he? Why wouldn't he have made water fix the mistake last day phase?

Exactly, misterchris was on for awhile and never cc'd Water

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Before we vote water do we get the claims from the carol results for investigators? On one hand it helps our investigators with who to target, on the other hand it gives mafia free info on potential of 1-2 townies.

I'd like opinions on this issue.

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WaterPhoenix (drafterman, MisterChris, oromagi) -- 3/6 votes

whiteflame (Magic) -- 1/6 votes

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@drafterman

No way, since clearly scum is powered, I have an anti-town role, scum knows who tracker and caroler are. White is scum and should be the lynch. Because if we are wrong about water which we likely are, who know what tomfoolery happens in the night changing town's odds.

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@LikeMagic

misterchris had a long time to cc the claim and we all acknowledge that tracker can be a scum role. I CANNOT BELIEVE that I am pretty much confirmed town, got a result FROM YOU that confirms my analysis and read on White and am still being ignored by town. Will have to discuss in postmortam wtf I should do differently to convince town in the future.

Don't worry, WF is next on my scum list because of your results.

But WP is the most confirmed scum we have. And you're totally right I had a while to CC, but as I said before I was catching up. This can be proven by simply looking at the timeline of me reading and giving my thoughts in the last few pages of the DP... I was steadily working my way up to about page 10 before the DP ended.

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damn it before i get lyncehd let me get out my results:

i watched supa np1 and he was visited by pie and speed. speed prob used vig on him but was then killed by maf. idk what pie was doing there

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@MisterChris

It's not a very big brain move.

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@LikeMagic

misterchris had a long time to cc the claim and we all acknowledge that tracker can be a scum role. I CANNOT BELIEVE that I am pretty much confirmed town, got a result FROM YOU that confirms my analysis and read on White and am still being ignored by town. Will have to discuss in postmortam wtf I should do differently to convince town in the future.

If misterchris is lying, this just backfires on him. I am not saying you are wrong, it's just that the odds generally favor the CC'er in situations that aren't LYLO. If you are right, then that's awesome, we still get a lynch on scum just tomorrow. I don't see why we would lynch him first though. Misterchris was inactive all of last day phase right up until the end, so his story fits.

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@LikeMagic

Water claimed at page 15 for reference.

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Are you confirming caroler?
I'd rather not answer this, I will confirm visiting magic though.

Why?

Seems like we really need to verify Magic's claim and we have you visiting her. You know it is suspicious to get caught visiting and then withhold your report.

Does somebody else want to claim CAROLER?

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@WaterPhoenix

damn it before i get lyncehd let me get out my results:

i watched supa np1 and he was visited by pie and speed. speed prob used vig on him but was then killed by maf. idk what pie was doing there

We need to hear from Pie

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@LikeMagic

He was on the same time as water wasn't he? Why wouldn't he have made water fix the mistake last day phase?
Exactly, misterchris was on for awhile and never cc'd Water

No,, I am talking about drafterman. Drafterman would have told water to fix his claim if he was scum with water. Chris was on right at the end of the day phase, I can easily see him not catching the tracker claim.

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@ILikePie5

you're my last hope, did you visit supa last night? if you did that confirms me as watcher.

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@oromagi

Why?

Seems like we really need to verify Magic's claim and we have you visiting her. You know it is suspicious to get caught visiting and then withhold your report.
Does somebody else want to claim CAROLER?

I will claim if town wants to get information from the caroler results. Don't you think it's odd though, that if I was caroler my own name would be on her report?

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