Should Gay people be privileged?

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@Benjamin
Did you know that 68 years ago God impregnated a virgin to have his second son. His name was Jeffery Epstein. He too was never married and had no kids.
God killed him too. You can read this in a new book coming out called the Newer Testament. See how myths are started?
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WOW, LOL, HAHAHA

Wow, a little too late to convince me.

Do not tell me that all twelve disiples, when they could be saved, rejected to admit the gospel was a myth, and instead chose to be crucified. Wow.
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"How many soldiers' lives is the life of one gay man worth?"

 "Seven."


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no specific group should be "privledged"
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There's places I've been where this privilege nonsense just wouldn't fly.  It says something about them.  Once you work smart, think hard, and over the course of time earn someone's respect, then maybe you can come back and tell us about the privilege of your relationship.
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ok.
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@Benjamin
Christianity created the West, and now the West is rejecting Christianity, effectively erasing its own foundations.

At least, before you remove religion, have SOMETHING to replace it, so that society does not spiral down into chaos.
Christianity is a violent convert or die system that wiped out or absorbed all other religious practices and faiths. Christianity deserves to fail. 
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I would say that Humans are violent evil and brutal, that all civilisations fought and killed each other, and only the Christian west stopped doing so.


Witches were not burnt in the middle ages, it was a pagan practice and was condemned.

The practice first reappeared when Christianity lost power near the end of the middles ages.

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Witches were not burnt in the middle ages

The practice first reappeared when Christianity lost power near the end of the middles ages.
you realize you just said it didn't happen in the middle ages, it started in the middle ages? those 2 sentences mean the exact opposite things. 
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But the all-time grand champion exterminator of witches was Ferdinand von Wittelsbach, Catholic prince-archbishop of Cologne, Germany, who burned 2,000 members of his flock during the 1630s.
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During the middle ages, it was the policy of the Church not to burn witches, it was a pagan practice.

That man you described, did not live in the middle ages, and in his time Christianity had less power, that's why pagan practises were reintroduced, like burning witches.

Remember that in most cases it was Christians that stopped the burning of witches, especially in salem.
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No change can happen instantly.

Witches began to be burnt when Christianity lost power, at the end of the middle ages the dominion of the church was already taken down.

So, burning witches started when Christianity diminished.
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Witches began to be burnt when Christianity lost power, at the end of the middle ages the dominion of the church was already taken down.
when exactly did the church "lose power"? they were still extremely powerful right up to the modern era. The catholic church is still vastly wealthy. Though they have lost much of their political clout. 
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I wasn't even referring to witches. 
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The Onion is a satirical "news" site, they don't actually think that.
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Can you plesase show me ANY country that was ever great without being Christian or former Christian?
CHINA.

EGYPT.

ROME.
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@Benjamin
I would say that Humans are violent evil and brutal, that all civilisations fought and killed each other, and only the Christian west stopped doing so.
The St. Bartholomew's Day massacre (French: Massacre de la Saint-Barthélemy) in 1572 was a targeted group of assassinations and a wave of Catholic mob violence, directed against the Huguenots (French Calvinist Protestants) during the French Wars of Religion. Traditionally believed to have been instigated by Queen Catherine de' Medici, the mother of King Charles IX, the massacre took place a few days after the wedding day (18 August) of the king's sister Margaret to the Protestant Henry of Navarre (the future Henry IV of France). Many of the most wealthy and prominent Huguenots had gathered in largely Catholic Paris to attend the wedding. [**]
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no specific group should be "privledged"
oNLY the RICH (& famous) deserve privilege.
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no they should not
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@Benjamin
USA was never paganistic, unlles you clasify indian spiritual traditions as paganism.
And those nice Christians were so kind and friendly and kept all their promises and stuff...
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...han other people, no, but since they are targeted more (like a denomination that literally wants state mandated executions of gay people) they should have a bit more protection. Just like if som...
They should have the exact same "rights" & "privileges" that wealthy senators have.
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Society were as stable and peacefull as possible during the Christian dominion.
Tomás de Torquemada [**]
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oNLY the RICH (& famous) deserve privilege.
no they should not
How do you propose we "fix" this "problem"?
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"Objective morality" you claim, yet you don't understand that if what god's typically spew is "morality" then I want nothing to do with morality.
PROTECT YOURSELF.
PROTECT YOUR FAMILY.
PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY.
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@Benjamin
You are correct when reffering to the world.
Why is the world becomming a better place?
  1. Capitalism - Created by christianity
So, the ancient Greeks and Chinese never bought or sold things or owned businesses?
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good question- im sure populists like tucker have solutions
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CHINA, EGYPT, ROME
Were they truly great?

Apart from being big empires, no. China came close, but they were the least pagan of the countries you listed.

All of those countries used forced labour, all of them were dictatorial, all of the oppressed women. Rome killed people for entertainment, Egypt tried to massacre the entire Jewish population, China - well I guess was the best of them - and also the least pagan.

Did they have hospitals? Human rights? Science (not referring to technology)? Capitalism (not slavery)? Democracy? Universities?

NO! No country has ever become truly great without being Christian.

I am not calling Europe perfect, Europe was worse than Egypt and China before Jesus was born.

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Were they truly great?
Yes at the time there were. 

Apart from being big empires, no. China came close, but they were the least pagan of the countries you listed.
Polytheist not pagan. And China and Japan have practices that are animist based at the time. 

All of those countries used forced labour, all of them were dictatorial, all of the oppressed women. Rome killed people for entertainment, Egypt tried to massacre the entire Jewish population, China - well I guess was the best of them - and also the least pagan.
You mean like slavery and forced indentured servitude like the US with cotton, agriculture, rail roads and such? Still using it today with illegal immigration.  Let's talk about the killing of the Native Americans and Africans for sport. Let's talk about the complete annihilation of native religions in Europe buy Catholics.  

Did they have hospitals? Human rights? Science (not referring to technology)? Capitalism (not slavery)? Democracy? Universities?
The US didn't have those till they came around here. Women and children were property. 


And let's discuss that any nation considered free today does not have the church running it's government.  Secularism is what saved the West. 

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Secularism is what saved the West. 
Secularism is a natural result of a west that was freed by Christianity. Under no other religion has secularism succeded.