GOP Sickness

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  • Danielle
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    As you all know, on Saturday our dear leader President Trump had a telephone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. Now because  Lindsay Graham had previously asked Raffensperger to throw out legally cast ballots, Raffensperger decided to record the telephone call with Trump as a way to protect himself from the president's inevitable lies and allegations. On this call Donald Trump was secretly recorded trying to pressure Raffensperger to throw out votes for an opponent and “find” votes for himself. This conduct is impeachable, illegal, and some suggest indicative of a coup. 

    Cue the “everyone does it - he just does it for the right causes” brigade.

    The audio of this phone call is like telling the Nixon tapes to "hold my beer." 

    Trump brought up many outrageous things, such as believing he won the election because his rallies were bigger and making up random numbers and accusations that are not backed by  a shred of evidence. Virtually everything he said on this call can be fact-checked as brazenly false and/or completely unsubstantiated. For instance he said 139% of the population of Detroit voted; only 51% did. You can go through line by line and it's actually painfully funny but also tremendously sad to see the POTUS saying these things in all seriousness. 

    What's even more sad: despite overwhelming evidence that President Trump is nothing but a lying, selfish egomaniac who doesn't care about the harm he does to America, its institutions, people or any of its political processes, Republicans still have their own egos too wrapped up in mindlessly championing anything he says and does to hold him accountable for a single thing.  It is both scary and pathetic. Nearly 70% of Republicans still believe there was election fraud despite NO evidence, and now even with yet another call catching the president engaging in illegal activity for his own self-aggrandizement, they still won't accept he has done anything wrong or admit he lacks the competence and character for the office he holds. 

    If I were the GA Secretary of State, I would have asked the President flat out to just be clear "What are you threatening me with, and how much of a bribe can I expect if I cooperate?" Even then I don't think Trumpkins have the brains or balls to call out their lord and savior for criminal conduct. Ask yourself just how many of these shakedowns Trump has committed that weren't recorded and leaked. Although I guess if you can stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters, then what's a little shakedown here and there on occasion?

    The whole party (I'm exaggerating just a little) is beholden to this man's fabrications. It is sick. Previously some thought Trump would be the "chemotherapy" to fix the sickness within the GOP, but it's become clear that has backfired tremendously. The party is getting sicker. What could be the remedy to salvage the few remaining sane people within? 
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    oH aS iF tHe DeMoNrAtS aRe AnY bEtTeR?! 


    There, now none of you have to waste time making that irrelevant point. 
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    Out of curiosity, did anyone happen to watch Fox News the last few days? I missed it but I was curious to hear Tucker Carlson explain how the media is misrepresenting this call. 
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    Well stated.
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    Gotta back you on this one. 
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    --> @Dr.Franklin @Greyparrot @ILikePie5
    do you have any evidence to back up trump's false claims?

    do you even pretend that trump is trying to win fairly? 
  • Dr.Franklin
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    sure, theres tons of evidence for fraud but the rino Georgia establishment wont back up trump, oh well, we already know this

    this is nothing like nixon, we KNOW that there is voter fraud and trump has every right to call the SOS of georgia
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    Opinion by
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    Jan. 4, 2021 at 2:39 p.m. MST

    On a conference call last Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told his caucus that, in his 36 Senate years, he has twice cast votes to take the nation to war and once to remove a president, but that the vote he will cast this Wednesday to certify Joe Biden’s electoral college victory will be the most important of his career. McConnell (R-Ky.) understands the recklessness of congressional Republicans who are fueling the doubts of a large majority of Republicans about the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

    The day before McConnell’s somber statement, Missouri’s freshman Republican senator, Josh Hawley, announced that on Wednesday, 14 days before Biden will be inaugurated, he will challenge the validity of Biden’s election. Hawley’s conscience regarding electoral proprieties compels him to stroke this erogenous zone of the GOP’s 2024 presidential nominating electorate.

    Hawley’s stance quickly elicited panicky emulation from Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, another 2024 aspirant. Cruz led 10 other senators and senators-elect in a statement that presents their pandering to what terrifies them (their Trumpkin voters) as a judicious determination to assess the “unprecedented allegations” of voting improprieties, “allegations” exceeding “any in our lifetimes.”

    So, allegations in sufficient quantity, although of uniformly risible quality, validate senatorial grandstanding that is designed to deepen today’s widespread delusions and resentments. While Hawley et al. were presenting their last-ditch devotion to President Trump as devotion to electoral integrity, Trump was heard on tape browbeating noncompliant Georgia election officials to “find” thousands of votes for him. Awkward.

    Never mind. Hawley — has there ever been such a high ratio of ambition to accomplishment? — and Cruz have already nimbly begun to monetize their high-mindedness through fundraising appeals.

    For many years, some people insisted that a vast conspiracy, not a lone gunman, masterminded the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy near the grassy knoll in Dallas’s Dealey Plaza. To these people, the complete absence of evidence proved the conspiracy’s sophistication. They were demented. Today’s senatorial Grassy Knollers — Hawley, with Cruz and others panting to catch up — are worse. They are cynical.

    They know that every one of the almost 60 Trump challenges to the election has been rebuffed in state and federal courts, including the Supreme Court, involving more than 90 judges, nominated by presidents of both parties. But for scores of millions of mesmerized Trump Republicans, who think the absence of evidence is the most sinister evidence, this proves that the courts, too, are tentacles of the “deep state.” Hawley and Cruz, both of whom clerked for chief justices of the Supreme Court, hope to be wafted into the White House by gusts of such paranoia.

    As does Vice President Pence, who says about Hawley et al.: Me, too. To fathom Pence’s canine devotion to Trump, watch a video from June 7, 2018. Seated next to Trump in a meeting, Pence saw Trump take his water bottle off the table and place it on the floor. So, Pence did likewise. Google the 22-second video. It is a sufficient Pence biography.
    Republican Sen. Ben Sasse (Neb.) obliquely but scaldingly said of Hawley: “Adults don’t point a loaded gun at the heart of legitimate self-government.” America’s three-party system — Democrats, Hawley-Cruz Republicans, and McConnell-Sasse Republicans — will continue to take shape on Wednesday. Watch how many of these Republican senators who might be seeking reelection in 2022 have the spine to side with the adults against Hawley-Cruz et al. and the Grassy Knollers among their constituents: John Boozman, Richard Burr, Mike Crapo, Charles E. Grassley, John Hoeven, Mike Lee, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, Rand Paul, Rob Portman, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, Richard C. Shelby, John Thune, Todd C. Young. By aligning with Cruz, four — Ron Johnson, John Neely Kennedy, James Lankford and Kelly Loeffler — have reserved their seats at the children’s table.

    Hawley, Cruz and company have perhaps rescued Biden from becoming the first president in 32 years to begin his presidency without his party controlling both houses of Congress. On Tuesday, Georgians will decide control of the Senate. While they have been watching Republican attempts to delegitimize Biden’s election (two recounts have confirmed that Georgians favor Biden), Republicans were telling them: a) elections in the world’s oldest constitutional democracy, and especially in Georgia, are rigged, but b) the nation’s fate depends on their turning out for Tuesday’s (presumptively) sham run-off Senate elections, lest c) Democrats take control of the Senate and behave badly.
    Be that as it may, on Wednesday, the members of the Hawley-Cruz cohort will violate the oath of office in which they swore to defend the Constitution from enemies “foreign and domestic.” They are its most dangerous domestic enemies.

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    --> @Dr.Franklin
    citations needed
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    All I know is that Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensberger are gonna have to find a new job starting 2023
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    --> @Dr.Franklin
    What makes someone a "RINO?"  As in what specific policy positions? 
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    --> @Theweakeredge
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    a republican supporting amnesty, free trade, endelss wars, etc
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    a republican supporting amnesty, free trade, endelss wars, etc
    Republicans are known to be "war hawks" comparative to their liberal counterparts; they are very pro use of military and pro defense. I don't think anyone is for "endless" wars. Do you have any proof that the GA Secretary of State is for endless wars or amnesty?  

    The Republican Party has historically been for capitalism and free trade. In fact people who were NOT for these things were called "RINOs." People thought the Tea Party (which is for 100% free trade) was going to take over the GOP just a few years ago, so why you think they are not real Republicans is curious. Please explain. 
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    --> @Danielle
    Out of curiosity, did anyone happen to watch Fox News the last few days? I missed it but I was curious to hear Tucker Carlson explain how the media is misrepresenting this call. 


    In this article, Tucker Carlson suggests that certain media outlets are actively distracting from the Georgia Senate races.  



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    --> @Dr.Franklin
    I applaud you for actually having evidence, but I would ask that you look a bit more into the paper before blindly accepting it:

    "On Tuesday, Lott will present findings from an unpublished paper that is not peer reviewed, which purports to find evidence of voter fraud. Lott’s presentation of unvetted and unverified research is especially troubling. Unsurprisingly, his paper alleges evidence of voter fraud — a claim that has been disproven countless times."


    In case you wanted another source debunking it:

    This is a twitter thread, but the expert has a P.H.D, so he does know what he's talking about:
    "Dr. Michael P. McDonald is Associate Professor of Political Science at University of Florida. He received his Ph.D. in Political Science from University of California,"

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    --> @Theweakeredge
    brennen center is also biased and has been debunked
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    the GOP was the party of anti communism instead of full war until the 90's

    free trade is not apart of capitalism
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    Provide citations and examples please, if you want to make a claim, back it up. Did you notice that I didn't just say, "His study is biased and has been debunked." I actually provided sources
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    Do you mean like the famous list that they would pretend to read off of and arrest or kill anyone who they didn't like, acting under the guise of, "They were communists!" those guys?
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    just because the report is claimed to be "debunked" by the brennen center, a corrupt liberal organization, 

    the only think the brennen center touches on is supposed "fuzzy math" not the actual claims

    of course they try and frame this into "debunked"
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    they never did that, and the dem party was also anti communism until now because they love socialism
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    Thank you for dealing with the "evidence" part. I didn't have the patience lol. 


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    No problemo, I kind of live in an all republican household so I have a lot of sources tabbed
  • Danielle
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    Go listen to GOP poster child Ronald Reagan and all he did was talk about free trade lol.