(IFF) GOOD = HEAVEN (AND) HEAVEN = HAPPINESS (AND) GOOD = HAPPINESS (AND) HEROIN = HAPPINESS (THEN) HEROIN = GOODHeroin may equal happiness but happiness doesn’t equal heroin just like apples equals fruits but fruits doesn’t equal apples.
Good point. I am also aware of a "reality" where I am awkwardly perched on roller skates while trying ineffectively to perform the duties associated with my dayjob for example. I cannot decisively prove that it isnot a real situation but it is not a "reality" which "exists" reliably or linearly or that gives me any actionable data. I'll let you know if that changes.
what possible reason is there to think that god(s) care about us or anything?
And absent any concrete reason to think that any god(s) care about anything how does this help you avoid the trap of nihilism that you assume I must be falling victim to?
I’m fine with anything as long as heroin is left out.
That’s not a promise.
what possible reason is there to think that god(s) care about us or anything?I said nothing of God in my last post.
And absent any concrete reason to think that any god(s) care about anything how does this help you avoid the trap of nihilism that you assume I must be falling victim to?When did I say you fell victim to nihilism?
What leads you to believe you will enjoy eternal happiness?
Unless you have stopped believing in one it is still pertinent to the conversation.
Only if I’m arguing in favor of Him which I’m not.
“in order for our lives to have meaning we need to be punished or rewarded in some capacity otherwise it’s fair to question why do we care if the universe is so uncaring, after all aren’t we at our core extensions of the universe?”
In order for our lives to have meaning we need to be punished or rewarded in some capacity otherwise it’s fair to question why do we care if the universe is so uncaring, after all aren’t we at our core extensions of the universe?
“The answer is in the question it’s pretty self explanatory.”
What leads you to believe you will enjoy eternal happiness?The answer is in the question it’s pretty self explanatory.
What do punishment and reward even have to do with meaning?
What leads you to believe you will experience eternal happiness?
What do punishment and reward even have to do with meaning?It MEANS if you live this way you’ll be punished and if you live another you’ll be rewarded therefore you should live by the latter.
What leads you to believe you will experience eternal happiness?I don’t know what I’ll experience.
Does this suggest you don't know if your life has any meaning?
No, it MEANS I don’t know if I will experience punishment or reward.
I do not consider something right or wrong solely based on how it would benefit me.
I also do not consider something more or less correct dependent upon whether or not some cosmic hall monitor is paying attention.
There seems to be no sufficient evidence to suggest you will experience anything post mortum whatsoever.
“it’s fair to question why do we care if the universe is so uncaring, after all aren’t we at our core extensions of the universe?”
I do not consider something right or wrong solely based on how it would benefit me.We clearly have different views on the words right and wrong so if you’re gonna use your version of it in your argument then I request that you prove it.
I also do not consider something more or less correct dependent upon whether or not some cosmic hall monitor is paying attention.Don’t mock me.
There seems to be no sufficient evidence to suggest you will experience anything post mortum whatsoever.Then“it’s fair to question why do we care if the universe is so uncaring, after all aren’t we at our core extensions of the universe?”
Does this suggest you don't know if your life has any meaning?No, it MEANS I don’t know if I will experience punishment or reward.
Is your highest ethical priority your own personal wellbeing?
I am not mocking you.
whether or not someone is looking does not have any effect on the ethical content of your actions.
On a separate note I am starting to think you are conflating moral pronouncements for a moral standard.
