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@disgusted
I believe it is beyond your epistemological limitations to make such a claim.
I love you anyway.
Satan is not Lucifer. Lucifer is Jesus in angel-form.
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@Mopac
All godists must run away when confronted by facts. You don't do it with much grace but you do it and you obviously don't know what love is.
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The idea of the literal Biblical concept of Satan - originally means the term meaning = " the adversary " directly in the Hebrew language.
RationalMadman does have a point about the meaning of the word = Satan / - in that this word " the adversary " is also a term / word
that is also applied to God and his angels as being also - withstanding and as adversaries or as a Satan to wicked or people on earth doing wrong.
Num 22:32 And the angel of the LORD { withstood / was Satan } unto you, because your way is perverse before God: - this Hebrew word " withstood " is the Hebrew word " Satan "
Num 22:22 The LORD stood in the way for an { adversary / a Satan } against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were with him.
1Sa_29:4 And the princes of the Philistines were worried that King David would be an { adversary / Satan } to them once the battle had
began also these following verses use the word " Satan " to also mean the word { adversary }
2Sa_19:22 - 1 Ki_5:4 - 1Ki_11:14 - 1Ki_11:23 just as it is here also in - 1st Ki_11:25 The king of Zobah was an adversary / Satan - to Israel.
Eventually, this Hebrew word " Satan " takes on a spiritual meaning to apply to both the spiritual and the physical worlds. Man is seen
as satan - Gods angels are also seen as satan - and also the evil spirits of the fallen angels are depicted as satan as well. But eventually, this word becomes the totality of only being defined as a spiritual understanding of the spiritual battle between the fallen angels and God and man.
As the process of the Bible is being written it becomes the literal TITLE and NAME of the spiritual force of demonic power that is causing
man / humanity to fail and destroy themselves and its meaning loses and drops the physical meaning of man being defined as Satan to one another in the Bible as it goes forward into the proceeding of the BIbles future history - and it also loses and drops the idea of Gods angels being defined as Satan to punish or withstand the actions of bad actors and bad people who the Angels are performing actions against evil individuals of mankind.
After the verse in 1Ki_11:25 the term only allies to the demonic forces of the fallen angels and no longer is defined or used as it was used before when calling Gods Angels and human beings as { adversaries } by using the Hebrew word Satan.
We find that another word is used and Satan is no longer used to mean anything but = meaning the devil or
spiritual demon force.
The Hebrew word for adversaries between humans, becomes The Hebrew word = H6862 - צָר - tsar - tsâr - Meaning = To trouble,) - adversary, afflicting, anguish, distress, enemy, strait, and tribulation. And Satan is never again applied to God or mankind after 1Ki_11:25.
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@Mopac
Lucifer is an Italian word meaning - LIGHT or Glorified. OR PRAISED ONE
When the Trinitarian Roman Catholic Translators Translated the Bible into English in 1582 " The Douay Rheims " the translators simply refused to translate the Hebrew word { HALLAL } meaning PRAISED .
they left this Hebrew word in Italian - pretending that this word was a Title for Satan.
In fact " Lucifer does not exist in the Hebrew or Greek manuscripts - Lucifer or LIGHT or PRAISED " was never a name - given to Satan in the Bible.
this Hebrew word " הָלַל " HALAL appears in the Old Testament a total of 26 total times.
Isa 4:12 = is about the king of Babylon - not about Satan - and Satan had not fallen from heaven until after Yahashua The Son Of God was conceived upon the earth.