---Star Trek Deep Space Nine (DS9) Mafia: DP1---

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Its starting to get really aggravating that ur beating me to conclusions. 

You didn't start the game doing it, but like the last 100 or so posts its happened twice. First with urging people to vote Supa, then with saying Pie is scum 😂.
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Much, much better. I took the time to read the thread from beginning to end, and I made observations on every post of interest and area of contention. I have a much better grasp of the game rules now and of the current situation. I recognize that the initial argument between Budda and Aporia was one of strategy and ethics concerning the game. Nothing much to read from there, unless I was to suspect that it was a smokescreen. I now also have a grasp on reading players, and the reasoning put forth. And at the end of all this, I can say that I stand by my vote on Supa.

Logic...

As pointed out by Budda, he is an experienced player to the best of our knowledge, It is therefore suspect that he would misread an opening vote. After it was explained to me, I understand that this is a necessary first step to kick-start the match, and nothing can be inferred from it. For Supa, a supposedly experienced player, to make that mistake, is questionable. To compound the issue, Supa has also made this exact mistake at least two more times. The first was another on a vote, and the second error was on terminology that could easily be researched or defined from the context of the match. Following this, his only reaction has been outright indignance and outrage, something that comes off as a distinctly town affiliated behavior. I believe this a is a last ditch attempt to avert being lynched as scum, and is intentionally manufactured.

Summation...

Supa has been caught multiple times 'misreading' as I understand it relatively common place terms, which is unusual of a self proclaimed and proven experienced operator.

Confirm...

VTL ( Lynch ) SuperDudz

Reads...

Town
Budda
GP

Null
( Anyone not listed )

Scum
Supa
Wyl




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@ArgentTongue
One promise. 

When I flip town like I protest, you should vote Budda for being a liar, manipulative, scum
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@ArgentTongue
If you promise to vote Budda when I flip town, I will put a GG in this DP and vote myself
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I don't really care tbh. Fuck it, I have lost the good fight

You are all idiots and should flip scum on Budda

Unvote VTL Supa
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Budda is a clever one, there's no denying that, but I'm not convinced
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@Vader
is that a phaser in your pocket or are you just happy to see me, methinks the Supa doth protest too much
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"Sometimes by losing a battle you will find a new way to win the war."-Donald Trump

As a town, I have hope we will flip Budda as scum and his partner Aporia. I wish the best to town.

I hope your happy with the battle win Budda, but YOU WILL DIE A SAD DEATH BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM

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@Vader
That remains to be seen. If it events unfold in the way you predict, then we have strong suspects for DP2. I would think that as experienced players, both Budda and Aporia would know how it would look to push hard to lynch someone who turned out to be a town affiliated. And if one or both are scum, then it is counter intuitive to the goal of winning the game IMO.

Also, I don't think it is unreasonable to read you the way you have been based off of your mistakes. As an experienced player, you must of known how that would read and that it would be very difficult to convince anyone otherwise. To argue that it is unreasonable to prosecute you based off of these is confusing.

On another note, you take this game entirely too seriously ( or seem to ). From what content I have read from you, you tend to be laid back and satirical. This is highly irregular and out of character for you, which is damning to an even further degree.
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@ArgentTongue
thanks for you analysis as this is my first attempt at this type of game, unless that was a most artful way to point the finger and whom you want targeted.....hhmmm
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@ArgentTongue

And, on another note. You take this game entirely too seriously ( or seem to ). From what I content I have read from you, you tend to be laid back and satirical. This is highly irregular and out of character for you, which is damning to an even further degree.


Budda and his completely irrational, stupid, and borderline mental reasoning makes me angry because

A) He is luring new players and conning the player to his faulty logic
B) He is on every bandwagon for claims when I have seen him as scum, he does the same stuff

But it is frustrating when no one hears your side, and write you off as an incompetent person. When Budda lies, he is dragging the town down. But this gets disregard because Budda is an older age.

I am chill from normal games. But he just frustrates me so much
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@Vader
Budda and his completely irrational, stupid, and borderline mental reasoning makes me angry because
Perhaps that is his strategy.

And, if I might be so bold, I think the anger and frustration is part of yours.

But, that being said, this game is simply an exercise in manipulation and subversion, as well as investigation and deductive reasoning. To be angry about being proficient in any of these tactics is pointless.

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@ArgentTongue
sounds a bit like the man in black  hhmm?
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Vote Count

Lunatic (1/7) - Vaar
Vaar (1/7) - Warren
Supa (6/7) - Wylted, Aporia, Budda, Grey, Argent, Supa

Time Check

About 2 hours remain in the DP.



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@Vader
I don't really care tbh. Fuck it, I have lost the good fight

You are all idiots and should flip scum on Budda

Unvote VTL Supa

If Supa is scum this reverse psychology trap here should be seen for what it is. If you are town Supa, than it is not productive to lynch the only person in the game you can be certain of, who is town.
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@Vader
Please remember to be polite.
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@Buddamoose
Love how he accused me of wagoning you when scum reading him is the only main thing thag we have agreed on so far
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I'll revote at the last minute, if need be. I need to think harder on this

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@Vader
It might take me 2 hours to catch up on the DP, can you just explain or point me to a post where you explain your lazy play style (Which is common of scum, but not exclusive of them)
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@Vader
Give me a full claim. It's not too late to lead a lynch on budda, if I believe you
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@Buddamoose
For what its worth budda could be scum. I just dont see it rn. His play reflects a lack of knowledge regarding affiliation. You see it when someone acts paranoid (to a degree) and jumps around a little bit early. See budda jumping from wyl to vaarka to parrot and to supa. Hes not tunneling, hes not trying to be everyones friend, and he seems to be authentically reaching his conclusions. Thid could easioy change as the game progresses and Ill be the first to go after him if I think its warrented. Lol aint no friends in this game.

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@Buddamoose
What i dont like is you saying you soft-claimed like it means something when your soft claim was, "my role is like something i played in an unwritten book that nobody here has or could have read because its unwritten." 

The first chapter is somewhat written and linked to in the debate I did with RM. I wouldn't softclaim using stuff that wasn't publicly available before my softclaim
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Unvote

I thought it was L-1
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@Buddamoose
I dont get yer TR on Argent. Hes null at this point to me. For a beginner supposedly playing alone Im not all that convinced. And Ive been backtracking my TR on warren a little. Well see
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@Wylted
No because I don't see the point. I made my claim. I know nothing about the show let alone this Nexus stuff. How would I have fake claimed NEXUS(a random role which I never played)

I can see Budda being angry, but his logic doesn't add up. Lwxanna Troi + Nexus, a power roleish. I don't see the point he makes even if he doesn't believe misreading was unintentional
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@Wylted
Lwxanna Troi.

Nexus(passive redirect)(i have no control if who gets redirected whether it be investigative, protect, or someone attempt to kill me)

Win with town

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@Vader
How does your role work. Please explain

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@Aporia
argent is not a beginner, just full of shit.
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@Wylted
Each night, when someone tries to use a night actions, I passively redirect them randomly to a random person is my best explanation without C/P