The Biblical Yahweh is not an All-Loving god

Polytheist-Witch: There is no hell in the Old Testament it's a completely Christian concept. And honestly if you read through the Bible it's not even discussed until Revelation. Hell is a bunch of malarkey it doesn't exist.

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and by the way - I never said it was a criminal offence to talk about gender.  I was talking  about it being illegal to talk to someone about whether they are confused about their gender.  you may not appreciate the difference but the legislation does. 

Stop playing semantics. This is what you have literally wrote.

Tradesecrete wrote #50 " In Australia, and in Victoria, for you to ask that question unless you are a qualified GP and counsellor, is a criminal offence". 

And let us not forget that you also live in New Zealand and speak Greek too TRADESECRET-BIO-FEMALE.jpg (1847×967) (ibb.co)

I see your little break from the forum has done nothing for your personality disorder.

Not something one would expect from a pastor or a lawyer. Should his condition improve he might return as a doctor.

There is no hell in the Old Testament it's a completely Christian concept. And honestly if you read through the Bible it's not even discussed until Revelation. Hell is a bunch of malarkey it doesn't exist.

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@Shila

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and by the way - I never said it was a criminal offence to talk about gender.  I was talking  about it being illegal to talk to someone about whether they are confused about their gender.  you may not appreciate the difference but the legislation does.

Stop playing semantics. This is what you have literally wrote.

Tradesecrete wrote #50 " In Australia, and in Victoria, for you to ask that question unless you are a qualified GP and counsellor, is a criminal offence".

And let us not forget that you also live in New Zealand and speak Greek too TRADESECRET-BIO-FEMALE.jpg (1847×967) (ibb.co)

I see your little break from the forum has done nothing for your personality disorder.

Not something one would expect from a pastor or a lawyer. Should his condition improve he might return as a doctor.

Especially one that claims a congregation of over 300 worshipers, speaks many languages and tutors students in all the theological that's just to name a few of his many, many alleged accolades.

I am still waiting to see the legislation that supports his claim. Thos links offer nothing in the way of evidence. But I am not surprised.

Especially one that claims a congregation of over 300 worshipers, speaks many languages and tutors students in all the theological that's just to name a few of his many, many alleged accolades.

I am still waiting to see the legislation that supports his claim. Thos links offer nothing in the way of evidence. But I am not surprised.

If you were ever surprised then you would have to stop worshiping yourself. Gods know everything don't they. 

If you were ever surprised then you would have to stop worshiping yourself. Gods know everything don't they. 

Would like to see a very good example of someone that actually does worship themselves Reverend?

Easy peasy. Take a look in the mirror.

Stephen: As you have given me cause many times now to show just who it is that suffers with God Complex Disorder and likes to believe himself to be above all others, I will remind you of the man in your own mirror, Reverend "Tradey".

Lets see. After your "calling" and after being "chosen by god" himself you go on to tell the world about yourself.

Starting with your education  and without being asked or any prompting you freely tell this  forum :

Tradescret wrote; "I have been taught to memorise the bible from very young. I have read the bible numerous times. I try and read the OT once every year and the NT twice a year.  I know it reasonable well and can even read Hebrew and Greek".  #52

Tradescret wrote; "I have studied degrees at theological colleges".  #45

Tradescret wrote; "I have studied degrees at theological colleges and heaven gets mentioned - but rarely ever articulated on very much.  #45

Tradescret wrote;"I studied and was tutored by academics, scholars, and priests and fathers from the Orthodox Church". #91

Tradescret wrote; "I study the original languages, translate them to English",  #25

Tradescret wrote;"I am qualified by certified colleges with proper accreditation".#20 

Tradescret wrote; "I am a pastor of a church with over 300 people"#67

Tradescret wrote;" my role as a pastor - which I also do, I counsel in pastoral care. "#20

Tradescret wrote;"I am also a chaplain to our Countries Defence forces, a position I could not have without proper qualifications". #20

Tradescret wrote; "Are you assuming that my qualifications obtained from a world class reputable university are not real"? #31

Tradescret wrote;"I  charge universities when they request me to lecture to them [ their students]". #20 

Tradescret wrote; "I am a lawyer".  #20

Tradescret wrote; "I in most parts are merely passing on the teaching of what i have received", with gods authority.     #20

Tradescret wrote; "I devote a significant amount of my resources in trying to prevent abortions from happening. I also devote a significant amount of resources to programs which enable people to adopt children.#64 I also devote a significant amount of my resources towards helping people who are left in homeless situations and are expected to be looked after by the government and its welfare programs".  #64

Tradescret wrote; "by my Hebrew teacher"#45

Tradescret wrote; "I provide resources to my local church as well who have significant means of assisting people in impoverished places around the world and locally".  #64

Tradescret wrote; "Would you care to prove that a post graduate degree from Melbourne University is not a real qualification"#31? 

Tradescret wrote; "I suppose the rocks down on my farm might be much older" #13

There is much to add to you gasconading Reverend "Tradey".  For instance, your "orthodox Tutor connection in Moscow".  Your appearance in the Bangladeshi courts as an international lawyer.

And all of this on top of a family, children and a farm to run. 

 I have said many times now too on this forum that, for a man that claims to be a defence lawyer, you have a special ability to open the door for the prosecution. Your criminal clients that are in prison must rue the day they employed you to defend them.

@ shila  Cut out and keep.

Tradesecret: I went looking for the truth and I did not find it.  Like everyone else on the same journey, I soon discovered there many hurdles and problems - of definition of validity, of recognising it when and if I did happen to luck onto it. But I kept looking - and looking.  It was only when I stopped looking - because I wasn't particularly looking for the truth as whatever I thought the truth might be.  Or what others had told me the truth was and I didn't have a better idea. Finally, I stopped.

It was then that truth found me.   And it didn't try and prove that it was the truth and nor did it try and demonstrate that it was the truth and it did not validate itself and it didn't even task me to believe it was the truth.  Yet  it surprised me as to its simplicity and its complexity.  To its rawness and to its maturity.  To its completeness and its warmth and the immediate insight that it knew me better than I knew myself.  And it didn't have an issue with me.  And it was then that truth as it were "dawned on me".

My journey is now quite different to that one.   I am not looking for truth anymore.  That is a journey that others will walk until they realise that they won't ever find it.  I have a feeling most people on this site are on that journey - whether they admit it or not. They might call it something different.  They might recognise it or not. Yet like many other countless sites all over the internet and countless churches, and synagogues, and temples, and mosques, and little clubs, atheistic as well,  these people will keep searching, and every now and then someone will find something that they recognise as truth - for a while and then they will move on - on the same old journey.  

You are on that journey. that is one reason you visit this site and others probably. You might not call it a journey for truth or perhaps you do.  but you haven't found what you are looking for yet - or else you wouldn't be here. 

All the best for your journey.  you know where I am.

Tradesecret: I went looking for the truth and I did not find it.  Like everyone else on the same journey, I soon discovered there many hurdles and problems - of definition of validity, of recognising it when and if I did happen to luck onto it. But I kept looking - and looking.  It was only when I stopped looking - because I wasn't particularly looking for the truth as whatever I thought the truth might be.  Or what others had told me the truth was and I didn't have a better idea. Finally, I stopped.

It was then that truth found me.   And it didn't try and prove that it was the truth and nor did it try and demonstrate that it was the truth and it did not validate itself and it didn't even task me to believe it was the truth.  Yet  it surprised me as to its simplicity and its complexity.  To its rawness and to its maturity.  To its completeness and its warmth and the immediate insight that it knew me better than I knew myself.  And it didn't have an issue with me.  And it was then that truth as it were "dawned on me".

My journey is now quite different to that one.   I am not looking for truth anymore.  That is a journey that others will walk until they realise that they won't ever find it.  I have a feeling most people on this site are on that journey - whether they admit it or not. They might call it something different.  They might recognise it or not. Yet like many other countless sites all over the internet and countless churches, and synagogues, and temples, and mosques, and little clubs, atheistic as well,  these people will keep searching, and every now and then someone will find something that they recognise as truth - for a while and then they will move on - on the same old journey.  

You are on that journey. that is one reason you visit this site and others probably. You might not call it a journey for truth or perhaps you do.  but you haven't found what you are looking for yet - or else you wouldn't be here. 

All the best for your journey.  you know where I am.

Shila wrote: We have you admission you are not looking for truth anymore. You looked for truth and never found it. And like also admit you haven't found what you are looking for yet - or else you wouldn't be here

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Tradesecret: I went looking for the truth and I did not find it.  Like everyone else on the same journey, I soon discovered there many hurdles and problems - of definition of validity, of recognising it when and if I did happen to luck onto it. But I kept looking - and looking.  It was only when I stopped looking - because I wasn't particularly looking for the truth as whatever I thought the truth might be.  Or what others had told me the truth was and I didn't have a better idea. Finally, I stopped.

It was then that truth found me.   And it didn't try and prove that it was the truth and nor did it try and demonstrate that it was the truth and it did not validate itself and it didn't even task me to believe it was the truth.  Yet  it surprised me as to its simplicity and its complexity.  To its rawness and to its maturity.  To its completeness and its warmth and the immediate insight that it knew me better than I knew myself.  And it didn't have an issue with me.  And it was then that truth as it were "dawned on me".

My journey is now quite different to that one.   I am not looking for truth anymore.  That is a journey that others will walk until they realise that they won't ever find it.  I have a feeling most people on this site are on that journey - whether they admit it or not. They might call it something different.  They might recognise it or not. Yet like many other countless sites all over the internet and countless churches, and synagogues, and temples, and mosques, and little clubs, atheistic as well,  these people will keep searching, and every now and then someone will find something that they recognise as truth - for a while and then they will move on - on the same old journey.  

You are on that journey. that is one reason you visit this site and others probably. You might not call it a journey for truth or perhaps you do.  but you haven't found what you are looking for yet - or else you wouldn't be here. 

All the best for your journey.  you know where I am.

Shila wrote: We have you admission you are not looking for truth anymore. You looked for truth and never found it. And like also admit you haven't found what you are looking for yet - or else you wouldn't be here

S/he is here because of the mistaken belief that this was a religious forum and not a forum to discuss religion. He was of the pompous belief that he could be an authorative leader because of his alleged gleaming qualifications and 40 years of study, and knowing the bible backwards and forwards and that s/he had been taught to memorise the scriptures from a very early age and that s/he could use this religion discussion forum as his personal pulpit.

Polytheist-Witch: He's here for the same reason everyone else is here. To shove their views on the others when it comes to God and religion. Are we all going to pretend like that's not the case cuz it is.

He's here for the same reason everyone else is here. To shove their views on the others when it comes to God and religion. 

 Now he is appealing to member who like him suffer from gender dysphoria.

No such thing as ancient aliens.  Human beings are not the product of alien creation or us being bred with other animals. Fucking dumbass.

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 Now he is appealing to member who like him suffer from gender dysphoria.

Then I do feel sorry those seeking his advice or even sympathy and comfort as I do his criminal clients and religious studies students.  But then again, we should expect him to better qualified in the gender dysphoria field than those he alleges to being qualified in. S/he has often spoken of his/her "experimenting in all sorts of sexual deviancy".

You are a fucking dumbass and incapable of understanding other people's thoughts and words.

There's a pedophile posting on the forum now ,

you could actually go talk to him about how you think about my kids with broomsticks between their legs.

You two have more than in common than you and I do.

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Polytheist-Witch: You are a fucking dumbass and incapable of understanding other people's thoughts and words. There's a pedophile posting on the forum now , you could actually go talk to him about how you think about my kids with broomsticks between their legs. You two have more than in common than you and I do

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Go discuss it with the pedophile. That's their and Steven's territory.

Go discuss it with the pedophile you have more in common with him than me.