Siding with Death

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  • ethang5
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    Pick any position, and the liberal will side with the oppressor, the criminal, the killer, and death.

    Abortion?
    Sides with - the killer of defenseless babies
    Against - Defenseless innocent babies

    Death Penalty?
    Sides with - The murdering criminal
    Against - The innocent victim

    Immigration?
    Sides with - The law breaking criminal
    Against - The law abiding citizen

    Homosexuality?
    Sides with - Disease and death
    Against - Abstinence and life

    Euthanasia?
    Sides with - Death
    Against - Life

    Illegal Drugs?
    Sides with - Overdoses and death
    Against - Sobriety and life.

    As I said, any position.
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    Islamic Terrorism?
    Sides with - Muslim and death
    Against - Christian and life

    As I said, any position.


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    Spillover from the Politics Forum?
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    No. This is philosophy.

    What is it about liberalism that makes it attracted to death?

    Environmentalism?
    Sides with - 0 Population growth
    Against - Babies and Life

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    This is just a troll thread made by a troll.
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    Communists don't believe people should own anything or have individual identity.

    You can add that to the death cult list.

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    Low effort
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    This is just a troll thread made by a troll, says the troll.

    Show one major political/social liberal position that doesn't side with death.

    System of Government?
    Sides with - Socialism/communism and death
    Against - Democracy and life
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    Environmental Protection?
    Sides with - Owls and Fishes
    Against - Humans

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    Abortion?
    Sides with - the killer of defenseless babies
    Against - Defenseless innocent babies

    A liberal believes an unwanted pregnancy eading to an unwanted child is not a good thing.  Liberals do not demand abortions - they do dmand that women are not forced to bring unwanted pregnancy term.

    Death Penalty?
    Sides with - The murdering criminal
    Against - The innocent victim

    The innocent victim of a murder is already dead.  One death should be enough - Two deaths are not better than one.

    Immigration?
    Sides with - The law breaking criminal
    Against - The law abiding citizen

    Unless all immigrants are law breakers and all non-immigrants are law abding I don't think that make sense.


    Homosexuality?
    Sides with - Disease and death
    Against - Abstinence and life

    Love is so more than the desire to reproduce.

    Euthanasia?
    Sides with - Death
    Against - Life

    Again the liberal seeks only for a choice to exist.  Is it right that someone may have to suffer years of painful existence?   

    Illegal Drugs?
    Sides with - Overdoses and death
    Against - Sobriety and life.

    Liberals don't pretend that drug addiction is easily solved.
     

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    Abortion?
    Sides with - the killer of defenseless babies
    Against - Defenseless innocent babies

    A liberal believes an unwanted pregnancy eading to an unwanted child is not a good thing.
    So they kill the child. To the liberal, a dead child is better than an unwanted one.

    Liberals do not demand abortions - they do dmand that women are not forced to bring unwanted pregnancy term.
    That must be why "women's health" centers push abortions like a pedo offering candy to a kid. If a woman doesn't want a child, why do what it takes to get a child? Liberals certainly do demand abortions.

    Death Penalty?
    Sides with - The murdering criminal
    Against - The innocent victim

    The innocent victim of a murder is already dead.
    Right. Justice doesn't matter to liberals.

    One death should be enough - Two deaths are not better than one.
    Unless if they are twins in the mother's womb. In that case, two deaths are better than one for the liberal.

    Immigration?
    Sides with - The law breaking criminal
    Against - The law abiding citizen

    Unless all immigrants are law breakers and all non-immigrants are law abding I don't think that make sense.
    Thank you. It makes no sense to side with a person breaking the country's laws and not with a law abiding citizen.

    Homosexuality?
    Sides with - Disease and death
    Against - Abstinence and life

    Love is so more than the desire to reproduce.
    I did not speak of love or reproduction. Neither is homosexuality equal to love.

    Euthanasia?
    Sides with - Death
    Against - Life

    Again the liberal seeks only for a choice to exist.
    Yes. The choice of death.

    Is it right that someone may have to suffer years of painful existence?    
    The liberals only solution is death.
    Unwanted baby? Kill it!
    Suffering existence? Kill it!

    Illegal Drugs?
    Sides with - Overdoses and death
    Against - Sobriety and life.

    Liberals don't pretend that drug addiction is easily solved
    No, they pass out free needles.
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    Pick any position, and the conservative will side with the government, the oppressor, the criminal, the greedy, the killer, and death.

    Abortion?
    Sides with - Tyrannical government control over personal sovereignty
    Against - Demonizes single mothers, eagerly slashes welfare and child care programs

    Death Penalty?
    Sides with - The insanely expensive criminal defense lobby
    Against - Survivors who prefer criminals serve life-without-parole and people who want to cut government spending

    Immigration?
    Sides with - The paranoid racist
    Against - Cheap labor essential to capitalism that brings down prices for everyone

    Homosexuality?
    Sides with - The paranoid, religious homophobe
    Against - Personal sovereignty

    Euthanasia?
    Sides with - Tyrannical government control over personal sovereignty
    Against - Personal sovereignty and the right to decide how much suffering is reasonable

    Illegal Drugs?
    Sides with - Greedy pharmaceutical corporations, overdoses and death and prohibition style criminal cartels
    Against - Personal sovereignty and the right to decide how much suffering is reasonable

    As I said, any position.
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    Let me show you your stupidity OK?

    Abortion?
    Sides with - Tyrannical government control over personal sovereignty
    Against - Demonizes single mothers, eagerly slashes welfare and child care programs
    Conservatives do not like government. They are the ones arguing against govt overreach. And personal sovereignty does not extend to another person, which is what a baby is.

    Death Penalty?
    Sides with - The insanely expensive criminal defense lobby
    Against - Survivors who prefer criminals serve life-without-parole and people who want to cut government spending
    Liberals still side with the killer and hate everyone else. Lobbies and survivors are strawmen.

    Immigration?
    Sides with - The paranoid racist
    Against - Cheap labor essential to capitalism that brings down prices for everyone
    Paranoid racists did not draw your country's borders. Paranoid racists did not make your country's immigration laws. Cheap labor is the liberal word for exploited immigrant. The need for cheap labor does not excuse people breaking into the country against the law.

    Homosexuality?
    Sides with - The paranoid, religious homophobe
    Against - Personal sovereignty
    There is no such thing as a homophone. And when homosexuals started dying like flies when aids first started, it was the govt. they turned to, not personal sovereignty. And we had to pay.

    Euthanasia?
    Sides with - Tyrannical government control over personal sovereignty
    Against - Personal sovereignty and the right to decide how much suffering is reasonable
    Conservatives are the ones against tyrannical government. Liberals lobbied for a law approving Euthanasia. Siding with death.

    Illegal Drugs?
    Sides with - Greedy pharmaceutical corporations, overdoses and death and prohibition style criminal cartels
    Against - Personal sovereignty and the right to decide how much suffering is reasonable
    Greedy pharmaceutical did not make you become an addict. If you claim to have personal sovereignty, then take responsibility for your actions. Liberals side with death. They have cute code names for each, but its always death.

    You seem to stupidly think you can just substitute conservative for liberal and the argument remains the same. While this is actually you validating the logic in my argument, it kills the logic n yours.
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    Anti-abortion + Anti-single-mothers, welfare and children's programs = PRO-SUFFERING and PRO-DEATH

    Pro-death-penalty = PRO-DEATH

    Anti-immigration sabotaging water stations near boarders = PRO-SUFFERING and PRO-DEATH

    Anti-immigration dumping poor people back into war zones = PRO-SUFFERING and PRO-DEATH

    Anti-homosexual sentiment emboldens bigotry = PRO-SUFFERING and PRO-DEATH

    Anti-euthanasia laws are inhumane and do nothing to save lives, even animals deserve better = PRO-SUFFERING and PRO-EXCRUCIATING-DEATH

    Anti-recreational drug laws protect pharmaceutical companies from the free market and allow price gouging and profit incentives suppress safety considerations = PRO-SUFFERING and PRO-DEATH

    Anti-recreational drug laws protect prohibition style cartels and expose consumers to unnecessary personal risk = PRO-SUFFERING and PRO-DEATH
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    Communists don't believe people should own anything or have individual identity.

    You can add that to the death cult list.

    Please explain why you believe any of this.
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    Anti abortion is to be against death no matter what silly liberal spin you try to put on it.

    Conservatives are against illegal immigration. Liberals are for criminals. Nothing you say will change a lie into truth.

    Conservatives are not anti-homosexual, they are anti disease. Feces always encourage sickness.

    Conservatives are anti-death, that is why they don't lobby the govt to make death a law.

    Recreational drugs are for the stupid. Drugs are not for recreation. That is a pathway to overdose and death. No pharmaceutical company sells recreational drugs. Liberals encourage the use of recreational drugs and so encourage death.

    Your liberal spin won't work. Death is the core of all your positions.


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    If private property is abolished, do you even own yourself?



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    For the abolition of capitalism in Russia has been taken by many Americans to mean that the Russians cannot own any personal property whatever. That is not true. The Soviet leaders draw a sharp distinction between ownership of capital for private gain,and ownership of various forms of personal property—houses, books, domestic utensils, clothes, furniture, automobiles, and the like—for private use.

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    Pro death penalty is PRO-DEATH no matter what silly conservative spin you try to put on it.

    Anti abortion is to be against single mothers and against PERSONAL-SOVEREIGNTY.

    Conservatives are against illegal immigration. Liberals are also against illegal immigration. Nothing you say will change a lie into truth.

    Conservatives are currently for increasing barriers to LEGAL immigration.  Liberals are currently for decreasing barriers to LEGAL immigration.

    Conservatives are anti-homosexual, they are not anti disease.  The number one killer for almost a century is heart disease.  The number two killer is cancer.  Conservatives have not made preventative medicine or health care in general a priority at all.

    Conservatives are pro-suffering, that is why they don't lobby the govt to make voluntary death a law.  Stopping terminally ill patients from being able to choose when to die peacefully is not a pro-life position.  These people will die either way.  One is simply more tragic and painful than the other.

    Recreational drugs, including alcohol and cigarettes and cigars and caffeine and sugar are for the stupid. Drugs, including alcohol and cigarettes and cigars and caffeine and sugar are not for recreation. That is a pathway to overdose and death (especially with alcohol). No pharmaceutical company sells recreational drugs, but they sell drugs with nearly identical physiological effects. Liberals do not encourage, but allow the use of recreational drugs, including alcohol and cigarettes and cigars and caffeine and sugar and support the principle of PERSONAL-SOVEREIGNTY.

    Your conservative spin won't work. Death is the core of all your positions (especially where the military is concerned).

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    The Soviets also killed millions of Orthodox Christians, decimated the priesthood, and made sure that no clergy could do their work unless cooperating with the kgb.

    The Soviets did everything they could do to destroy the church without causing a revolt, and when they found they couldn't they infiltrated it.


    But the soviet union and indeed all "communist" countries are in fact socialist. In fact, socialist is usually in their name. Socialism is...



    "a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"


    But they certainly did treat people as if they were slaves to the state.


    And as long as I am holding something, it is defacto my private property. There is a certain level of unenforceability that goes with abolishing private property.

    If you think it is desirable to live under a soviet union type government, you are VERY DECEIVED. You also might as welll be signing my execution papers. Just fyi.

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    Russia has not abolished private property.

    The United States Government has massacred thousands of helpless people.

    The United States Government has enslaved thousands of helpless people.

    All forms of Government are simply, by their very definition, oppressive. 
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    Russia is not communist any more either.

    And I would rather live in The Unites States than damn near anywhere else on this planet. Especially over a so called communist country.

    I disagree that governments are by definition oppressive. I think anarchy can be awfully oppressive to those who are at the mercy of those who opportunistically prey on the defenseless.


    Government tends to be oppressive to people who are up to no good...
    Or in the case of a tyranny, anyone who obeys God, because a tyrannical government sets itself up as god in the place of God.


    And the Soviet Union isn't worth defending, it was a tyrannical government, there is no way getting around that. It fell for good reason. Good riddance.






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    Pro death penalty is PRO-DEATH no matter what silly conservative spin you try to put on it.
    No spin. We want murderers to pay the just price. We don't cuddle them like liberals do. Liberals only want death for the helpless and innocent. Criminals and murderers get sanctuary from liberals.

    Anti abortion is to be against single mothers and against PERSONAL-SOVEREIGNTY.
    They can't be against mothers if you idiots claim the human inside them is not a person Mr. Vorhees. Anti-abortion is against death, and against women who murder little babies.

    Liberals are also against illegal immigration. 
    That is a lie. You place water in the desert so that criminals can better break the law. You give them sanctuary after they break the law. You want to do away with borders and law enforcement. Shine a light on the liberal position and they begin to lie.

    Conservatives are currently for increasing barriers to LEGAL immigration. 
    Right, because uncontrolled immigration is the path of poverty and death, which liberals love.

    Liberals are currently for decreasing barriers to LEGAL immigration.
    We know. You want the country swarmed with 3rd world illiterates and Islamic intolerant jihadists. Yours is a Death Cult.

    Conservatives are anti-homosexual, they are not anti disease.
    Yet it was conservatives who made all the progress in HIV medications. You can yell "nah-uh" all you want, simple opposition does not an argument make.

    If homosexuals had followed the conservative method of conducting their lives, the millions who died would have lived. Instead they were fooled by the liberal blathering about personal sovereignty and died like roaches. You don't care for homosexuals, you care for death. 

    Conservatives have not made preventative medicine or health care in general a priority at all.
    Because the government is not your daddy. Conservatives do not want government in every facet of our lives. Liberals do, so that they can enforce their death cult.

    Conservatives are pro-suffering, that is why they don't lobby the govt to make voluntary death a law. 
    Exactly. Conservatives know that suffering is part of life, and that death is not the answer to suffering. For you death cult liberals, death is a wonderful thing.

    Stopping terminally ill patients from being able to choose when to die peacefully is not a pro-life position.  These people will die either way.
    Everyone will die either way Vlad. We just choose life. You choose death. Because death is your only answer. Its all you know. Kill the babies! Kill the old! Kill the I'll! Kill, kill, kill! Same as your jihadist pets. Yours is a death cult.

    Recreational drugs, including alcohol and cigarettes and cigars and caffeine and sugar are for the stupid.
    True, except for sugar. Sugar is not a drug, and without it you would die. Exactly why your death cult wants it banned, but will push weed as healthy.

    No pharmaceutical company sells recreational drugs, but they sell drugs with nearly identical physiological effects. 
    And liberals are their biggest clients. Regardless of what pharmaceutical companies do, hour's is a death cult. You straw man company will not fool us. You worship death.

    Liberals do not encourage, but allow the use of recreational drugs,
    No need to encourage when virtually every liberal is a drug addled moron contemplating his next tattoo.

    A non-sober mind cannot have personal sovereignty chester. You can bold the words all you want, but a liberal high on meth or oxy is light years from personal sovereignty. Personal sovereignty is the natural state of the conservative, not just something he gives lip service to in between highs.

    I see you enjoying all that land the military won for you. We need a military for when your death cult comes a-knocking. Twice now they have rang the world's doorbell.

    And when you come again, we will send you back to the hades you oozed up from, just like we did the last 2 times.
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    Conservatives have not made preventative medicine or health care in general a priority at all.  We agree on this point.

    If conservatives cared about "life" they would make "life" a top priority.

    Conservatives are pro-suffering.  We agree on this point.

    If conservatives cared about "life", they would give refuge to people fleeing war zones.

    Humans can live perfectly healthy lives without refined sugar.  Humans will not die without refined sugar.

    Literally millions of conservatives are addicted to prescription pain killers.

    You can't defend our military killing millions of people who have never declared war on our country and still pretend that you care about "life".

    The Vietnamese people were not "knocking at our door", neither were the Iraqis, or the Afghans, or the Libyans.