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@ethang5
IF YOU WANT TO STOP ABORTION, BECOME LIBERALS
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@ethang5
Why exactly are you personally concerned about whether or not a random woman decides to carry a pregnancy to term?
How is this an issue for law enforcement?
How does this affect your life?
Do you believe that every sperm is a baby?
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@3RU7AL
Why exactly are you personally concerned about whether or not a random woman decides to carry a pregnancy to term?
I think murder anywhere is a moral evil. I am against it. And I certainly don't want to fund murder.
How is this an issue for law enforcement?
It is the state that guards the rights of the people within it. The baby has a right to life. The state has a responsibility to protect it.
How does this affect your life?
No one anywhere is free if anyone anywhere is enslaved. The murder of babies affects me. I am against the murder of innocent defenseless babies.
Do you believe that every sperm is a baby?
No. Do you?
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@ethang5
I think murder anywhere is a moral evil. I am against it. And I certainly don't want to fund murder.
Wait, are you against killing, or just "murder". I think we may have found the problem. I'm not sure you can "murder" a zygote.
And don't pretend it's about money because abortions are vastly less expensive than childcare.
The opposite of life is death.
You can't pretend the opposite of life is "murder".
If you are against death, then act like it.
It is the state that guards the rights of the people within it. The baby has a right to life. The state has a responsibility to protect it.
You only become a citizen of the state when you are BORN. The state protects citizens. If you have no birth certificate, you cannot be a citizen.
No one anywhere is free if anyone anywhere is enslaved. The murder of babies affects me. I am against the murder of innocent defenseless babies.
According to the 13th amendment, prisoners can be enslaved. Do conservatives want to fix that?
Also, about half of the chocolate in the world is produced by slaves.
Also, most of the bananas grown in the world are produced by slaves.
Also, many of the consumer products exported from China are produced by slaves.
No. Do you?
At what point do you imagine a fertilized egg becomes a citizen of the state?
I think murder anywhere is a moral evil. I am against it. And I certainly don't want to fund murder.
Wait, are you against killing, or just "murder".
I'm against both. Are you for one of them?
I think we may have found the problem. I'm not sure you can "murder" a zygote.
Slapping a name on a thing doesn't change it. Semantics will not excuse murder.
The opposite of life is death.
And death is liberalism.
You can't pretend the opposite of life is "murder".
I don't pretend. I don't have to. Liberalism is death.
If you are against death, then act like it.
That is why I'm not a liberal. I act like a conservative.
It is the state that guards the rights of the people within it. The baby has a right to life. The state has a responsibility to protect it.
You only become a citizen of the state when you are BORN.
It is the State's responsibility to protect the rights of everyone within it's borders, citizens or non.
The state protects citizens. If you have no birth certificate, you cannot be a citizen.
Nonsense. The state protects the rights of everyone within it's borders, citizens or non.
No one anywhere is free if anyone anywhere is enslaved. The murder of babies affects me. I am against the murder of innocent defenseless babies.
According to the 13th amendment, prisoners can be enslaved. Do conservatives want to fix that?
Strawman. Prisoners are criminals, so you as a liberal side with them. We don't. We worry about the victims of crime. We don't love death.
Also, about half of the chocolate in the world is produced by slaves.
I live in Ghana, a huge cocoa producer. That is a lie. And another strawman.
Also, most of the bananas grown in the world are produced by slaves.
Another liberal lie. I know those people, you are just spouting liberal buzz words.
Also, many of the consumer products exported from China are produced by slaves.
Another PC lie. And another strawman.
No. Do you?
At what point do you imagine a fertilized egg becomes a citizen of the state?
If you won't answer my questions, I don't have to answer your fake questions. I said the state is to protect everyone, citizens or non.
I would tell you that integrity would help you, but you're liberal, you don't value integrity.
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@ethang5
If you want to discuss liberalism I would recommend leaving the two party system in America out of it and providing a definition.
Also you made a mistake on the death penalty. Supporting the death penalty is definitely on the deathly side of things in an advanced nation.
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@Plisken
If you want to discuss liberalism I would recommend leaving the two party system in America out of it.
Why?
Also, you made a mistake on the death penalty.
We'll just take your word for it.
What? Is justice incompatable with advance nations? It is because we value life that we demand the highest penalty for violating it.Supporting the death penalty is definitely on the deathly side of things in an advanced nation.
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@ethang5
I don't mean to ignore political history. To me it just makes sense to have a common basis for "liberalism". It's a fairly broad term that is certainly not synonymous with a political party. As an example of complication someone is making reference to "conservatives" as seperate when in fact there are conservative liberals and social liberals. It may be possible to avoid such obvuscations normally caused for political interest, or by general ignorance.
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@ethang5
"Because we value life we demand the highest penalty"
Death is not a higher penalty then subjectship until death. I bet you are just cheap. If you aren't then you are still an advocate for subjectship till death.
Also, you sound like a socialist or something with this "we" stuff.
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@ethang5
It is the State's responsibility to protect the rights of everyone within it's borders, citizens or non.
This is an interesting statement considering your position on immigration.
No one anywhere is free if anyone anywhere is enslaved.
I guess your solution to slavery is to simply deny that it exists.
Current estimated number of people working under forced labor in Ghana: 133,000
424 consumer products produced by child labor and forced labor:
Top 5 consumer goods produced by child labor and forced labor:
Sugarcane
Cotton
Coffee
Tobacco
Beef
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@Plisken
I don't mean to ignore political history but to me it just makes sense to have a common basis for "liberal".
In America, we do.
It's a fairly broad term that is certainly not synonymous with a political party.
I disagree. The word is accepted and understood in America. Democrats are liberals.
As a complication someone is making reference to "conservatives" when in fact there are conservative liberals and social liberals.
A conservative liberal is an oxymoron. It is obvious we are talking about political liberals and conservatives.
It may be possible to avoid the obvuscation caused for political interest.
The only obvuscation here is that you are attempting to introduce.
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@ethang5
In your locality it might very well be accepted so that people are tricked for voting party over interest, just as an example. It's not accepted as such in mine.
Death is not a higher penalty then subjectship until death.
Conservatives do not want slaves, they want justice.
I bet you are just cheap.
I don't bet.
If you aren't then you are still an advocate for subjectship till death.
You commit the crime, you pay the time. Spin it any way your liberal heart wants.
Also, you sound like a socialist or something with this "we" stuff.
What, conservatives are solitary?
It is the State's responsibility to protect the rights of everyone within it's borders, citizens or non.
This is an interesting statement considering your position on immigration.
Only if you are spinning. "Within it's borders", and protection is not citizenship.
I guess your solution to slavery is to simply deny that it exists.
It certainly isn't to flood my country with 3rd world wingnuts, or to bankrupt my citizens with tax dollars sent to terrorist banana republics.
Current estimated number of people working under forced labor in Ghana:
You go to the net to get liberal spin and bogus stats that the country needs to get PC money. I live here. I know them personally.
I don't care for PC buzz words.
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@ethang5
Death is not a higher penalty then subjectship until death.Conservatives do not want slaves, they want justice.
Then we agree, and logically you expect the same thing conservatives that don't support the death penalty do, except you choose death as a "penalty". The only reason the death sentence is warranted is for protection.
I have no locality. I travel all over the country. Like all liberals, you think the people are stupid. Deplorables. You are the only one not tricked, right?In your locality it might very well be accepted so that people are tricked for voting party over interest, just as an example. It's not accepted as such in mine.
I don't buy your elitist claptrap.
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@ethang5
No.
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@Plisken
Then we agree,
Um. I know you want my agreement, but you will have to earn it.
and logically you expect the same thing conservatives that don't support the death penalty do,
No sir. Justice calls for death.
No sir. It is for Justice because life is sacred. Not to you I know, but it is.except you choose death as a "penalty". The only reason the death sentence is warranted is for protection.
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@ethang5
Riiiigggghhhtt, the mob decides that life is sacred unless it isn't. Okay my judgemental friend, additionally you haven't addressed the fact that both a life sentence and the death penalty, which your country can afford, end up placing someone in custody of the state as a necessary evil until death....and you want to take death into "our" hands because "life is sacred"....oh wait, that's not your position at all, because you think the sacredness of life gets a time out for your stupid penalty.
Riiiigggghhhtt, the mob decides that life is sacred unless it isn't.
Does reality matter to you? Our laws were not decided by mob.
Okay my judgemental friend, additionally you haven't addressed the fact that both a life sentence and the death penalty, which your country can afford, end up placing someone in custody of the state as a necessary evil until death
I am only addressing conservative positions. The silly state of our death penalty system is due to liberals. Death row is expensive only because bleeding heart liberals siding with the criminal make the system needlessly drawn out.
...and you want to take death into "our" hands because "life is sacred"....oh wait, that's not your position at all, because you think the sacredness of life gets a time out for your stupid penalty.
Conservatives believe justice matters, you don't. Go figure. You think the penalty is stupid, but you think so because your brain has been addled by PC nonsense. You go around treating life like a jihadist, and you will get the injection. Deal with it.
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@ethang5
Riiiigggghhhtt, the mob decides that life is sacred unless it isn't.Does reality matter to you? Our laws were not decided by mob.
Then drop this "we" stuff, and don't let others punish your own people with death.
Okay my judgemental friend, additionally you haven't addressed the fact that both a life sentence and the death penalty, which your country can afford, end up placing someone in custody of the state as a necessary evil until deathI am only addressing conservative positions. The silly state of our death penalty system is due to liberals. Death row is expensive only because bleeding heart liberals siding with the criminal make the system needlessly drawn out.
Please, letting you breathe is hardly a concession to siding with you. And you STILL have not addressed the point that this contends. You aren't even pro-life
...and you want to take death into "our" hands because "life is sacred"....oh wait, that's not your position at all, because you think the sacredness of life gets a time out for your stupid penalty.Conservatives believe justice matters, you don't. Go figure. You think the penalty is stupid, but you think so because your brain has been addled by PC nonsense. You go around treating life like a jihadist, and you will get the injection. Deal with it.
You haven't demonstrated that justice does not matter because we expect from everyone not to risk life unnecessarily. You can't change the wrong nature of the death penalty by demonstrating your own failing to recognize humanity. No matter how bad the deed, you still know your motives aren't justified.
Does reality matter to you? Our laws were not decided by mob.
Then drop this "we" stuff, and don't let others punish your own people with death.
You aren't making sense. But then, you're a liberal with no logical answer.
Please, letting you breathe is hardly a concession to siding with you.
Yes it is. You champion them. You have no similar care for the victim.
And you STILL have not addressed the point that this contends. You aren't even pro-life
I am. Not by the silly adhoc standard of liberals yes, but conservatives are. Pro life means we show that life is sacred and will not be violated. I know you think killing a mass murderer is a "violation", but you are a brain addled liberal. Eh.
You haven't demonstrated that justice does not matter because we expect from everyone not to risk life unnecessarily.
You do not expect from everyone not to risk life unnecessarily. You only expect that of law abiding people and law enforcement. Criminals and illegal immigrants get free reign from you.
You can't change the wrong nature of the death penalty....
The death penalty is correct and just. You can't change it into something else.
No matter how bad the deed, you still know your motives.
And you don't. And that is why we have courts.
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@ethang5
Your concession is noted.
Why would anyone advocate to treat a victim like a perp?
What is adhoc?
All citizens have a right to life and should be held to justice for the commission of a crime, including government employees.
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@ethang5
Your supreme ignorance concerning absolutely everything is mind boggling.
Why haven't you personally set up a shelter where these humans you claim get killed by abortion can live and thrive like humans given proper support are wont to do given those conditions?
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@ethang5
Why?We want to stop abortion,
Wingnuts don't need a reason to hate, but their holy book and it's pushers give them carte blanche to hate anything different.
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@ethang5
As is the majority of the population of the planet.I am against the murder of innocent defenseless babies.
What does that have to do with abortion?
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@ethang5
No you changed to that when it was pointed out that a zygote is not a citizen, and protecting everyone doesn't apply to prisoner nor do you believe that immigrants whether legal or otherwise should be afforded state protection. You are such a hypocrite.I said the state is to protect everyone,
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@ethang5
Life is sacred when a conservative wingnut declares it sacred and never any other time. The lives of millions of Iraqi's are not sacred. Nor the lives of the "caravaners".
Plisken:"life is sacred"....oh wait, that's not your position at all, because you think the sacredness of life gets a time out for your stupid penalty.
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@Plisken
Your concession is noted.
When you wake up, you'll be surprised.
Why would anyone advocate to treat a victim like a perp?
We've long stopped wondering why liberals act as loony as they do. Something about an attraction to death corrupts your mind.
What is adhoc?
Lol.
All citizens have a right to life and should be held to justice for the commission of a crime, including government employees.
Yeah, OK.
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@ethang5
Glad we have come to an agreement on this issue as your previous statements undermined what one might initially have assumed to be a pro-life position, and made it look like it's made up by a bunch of windbags.
How are people going wake up?
What is AdHoc?