Adulthood is based on physical size, reproductive capability and brain function.
Untrue. And repeating it won't change it. A small, sterile, brain dead 36 year old human female is a woman.
(IFF) the embryo is a human with the full rights and privileges of an individual human, (THEN) the mother should be held accountable for alcohol and or drug abuse and or excessive physical activity and or malnutrition that contribute to miscarriage.
Yeah, we agree doofus. She should be.
(IFF) the embryo is a human with the full rights and privileges of an individual human, (THEN) the death of an embryo is manslaughter.
Only if the death is due to the action or inaction of someone. Not every death.
If your child dies or is disfigured because of neglect and or irresponsible behavior, you are guilty of a crime.
I agree. What is your point?
If children die or are disfigured as a direct result of parental neglect and or abuse, this is a crime and not "natural causes".
Still, not every death is due to a direct result of parental neglect and or abuse.
And if you want to differ suddenly to "the law", you might notice that abortion does not meet the legal definition of murder.
Am I reading you the law? There was a time killing a black man did not meet the legal definition of murder. So what? The question here is, " Is it murder?" Not, "does the current law call it murder?"
The embryo is human in the same way that your appendix or a cancer tumor is human.
That is clearly untrue, and repetition will not make it true. A baby is not a part of the mother.
There are examples of humans with different genes in different parts of their bodies.
Please give us an example Dr. Science.
Cancer tumors have mutated cells.
Cancer cells have the same genes.
An embryo is not an individual human being.
What does "individual" mean? And so what? The embryo is a human being.
If I asked you the difference between humans and other mammals, how might you answer that without referring to human functionality?
Genetics.
Please explain how your opinion on the matter is based on science?
It isn't opinion, it is science. The mother and baby are genetically different. Two different people.
The mother and the appendix are fully distinguishable.
Not genetically.
The mother and the cancerous tumor are fully distinguishable.
Not genetically.
The brain and the stomach are fully distinguishable.
Not genetically.
The fact remains that the embryo is not an independent human being.
So? It is still a human being.
If it cannot exist without the mother, it is part of the mother.
Illogical. This is just something you are saying. Your opinion not based on sound reasoning. Medicine is getting better and better at keeping babies alive without the mother. Some babies are even conceived outside the mothers body.
However, I'm not entirely convinced that giving unsolicited medical advice to strangers
I don't give unsolicited medical advice to strangers. Why would you think I do? Are you confused?
...is obviously much better than spending your time and energy attempting to prevent CHILDREN from being abused and neglected.
How I choose to spend my time is not your business, and I don't care what you think of of my choices.
Certainly killing sperm kills the future human beings.
Untrue. Sperm cells are not human beings. There is no future human being.
Certainly condoms and birth control and plan-b kills the future human being.
NP jasper, without conception, there is no future human being. Thus a condom does not kill anyone. Please learn science.
Where do you draw the line...
Well before stupidity.
...and how do you prioritize your focus?
I stay within science and morality.
do you understand that women are often coerced, plied with false promises, and yes, sometimes even forced to have sex?
Sometimes billy-bob. Only sometimes. And rarely. You talk as if every pregnancy is due to rape.
And we do not kill people based on future statistics.
Yes you do. You kill prisoners based on predicted outcome.
No sir. We kill prisoners based past criminal behavior.
You kill soldiers based on predicted outcome.
No sir. We kill soldiers based on current behavior. If he changes his behavior, he is not killed but becomes a prisinor of war.
You kill immigrants based on predicted outcome.
Lie. We do not kill immigrants. We send them home.
You kill alcoholics based on predicted outcome.
Lie. We do not kill alcoholics, we sober them up with a 12 point plan.
Cutting healthcare benefits kills children base on future statistics.
Illogical. It doesn't follow. But funny you can connect health care benefit to future child deaths but cannot connect embryos to future adults. Other people's money is not yours. Money for health care doesn't grow on trees. You're a liberal, so you think you have a right to other people's money.
Contrary to what you might believe, not all psycho liberals are homosexual....
I didn't say they were. And "psycho liberals" is your phrase, not mine.
Killing embryos ends people?
The people those embryos would have become, yes.
This is provably false.
OK. Prove it.
Killing all embryos ends people.
And killing some embryos ends some people. So?
Nobody on the planet has ever proposed killing all embryos.
So? I did not say someone did. Are you confused?
Nobody wants to end people.
>>shrug<< I don't know what you're talking about. I did not say someone wanted to "end" people, or that I was "fighting" against them. You are confused. Very confused.
You're fighting your own imaginary boogeyman.
Right now, my own "imaginary boogeyman" seems to be in your imagination.
