Bestiality

Author: ADreamOfLiberty
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They can't complain if they're left outside in the cold without food either. Still people are allowed to keep dogs as pets because the possibility of abuse doesn't give you the right to prevent all relationships.
Relevance?
It is considered abuse if you leave your pet outside in the cold.
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Alright, I'm ignoring you for now. Don't know if you're having a bad day, you're a troll, or you're a bot but this isn't going anywhere.
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Alright, I'm ignoring you for now. Don't know if you're having a bad day, you're a troll, or you're a bot but this isn't going anywhere.
Your profile list personal information all unknown. Are you a stranger to yourself or blanked out when signing on?

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I would say an animal may not be able to consent to sex with a human.
There is a joke among libertarians "but who will pay for the roads", it mocks the incessant naive argument they often encounter. As if they had not seen and defeated the argument ten thousand times.

"but what about consent" is the same for zoosexual apologists.

 If you want to do this properly start with a definition of consent.


It is true some male dogs get carried away with human legs, arms, soft toys, and so on.
If you call it getting carried away does that make it less their choice?

They also get carried away when sticks are thrown, but fetch is not torture or slavery.

They want what they want and nothing is more straightforward than inferring that a creature consents to their own actions when no fear of pain or punishment was ever used to motivate those actions.


Does this mean they want to be the ones on the receiving end?
No, they would have to do something else to demonstrate that.


They all say animals cannot talk.
I have been greatly amused over the years by the number of people I've backed into a corner while debating bestiality whom chose to assert the existence of a secret language of animals that they use with each other but that humans could never learn or perceive.

In short they choose an Disney fantasy over admitting that their moral theory was incoherent.


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It seems unnatural to me. When I see dogs, cats, and other animals I do not think sexual thoughts.

The degenerate behaviors between humans are very bad too. 
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When I see dogs, cats, and other animals I do not think sexual thoughts.
... Ok ...


The degenerate behaviors between humans are very bad too. 
Sex is not degenerate.

Addiction is degenerate.

Lying is degenerate.

Apathy is degenerate.

Parasitism is degenerate.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Sex is not degenerate.
It can be. 

Addiction is degenerate.
It is degenerate when you are addicted to a harmful substance. Most commonly this is alcohol, cigarettes, or illicit substances. Sex addiction is also degenerate.

Lying is degenerate.
Yes.

Apathy is degenerate.
It is often a way to shield oneself.

Parasitism is degenerate.
Yes.
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@yachilviveyachali
When I see dogs, cats, and other animals I do not think sexual thoughts.
Plenty of women do fuck with horses and dogs.
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They may. I am not one of them.
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@yachilviveyachali
They may. I am not one of them.
People like different things.

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Sure...
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Degeneration is an unavoidable condition, whereas morality is as morality does.


Plenty of women do fuck with horses and dogs.

Yep, fucking about with horses and dogs is popular.

As is fucking about with hens or golf clubs.

Though I doubt that BK actually  knows any woman in a meaningful equine or canine relationship, nor any person that self penetrates with a sand wedge.

I expect his research is fantasy online porn based.

In fact, I think that BK is fantasy online porn based.
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Though I doubt that BK actually  knows any woman in a meaningful equine or canine relationship, nor any person that self penetrates with a sand wedge.

I expect his research is fantasy online porn based.

In fact, I think that BK is fantasy online porn based.
Not sure why my sex life interests you so very much.
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My chief interest was in the extensive numbers of women you are associate with...The "plenty" who fuck horses and dogs.

In order to know this fact, you must therefore know them.


Other than that I have no interest in your fantasy based masturbation. 
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Other than that I have no interest in your fantasy based masturbation.
Yet you keep talking about it always.

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Only because you do.

Though "always" is a bit of an exaggeration.
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Only because you do.
No. You mention it even in unrelated topics.

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You're up next on the women's side of our club.