Previously I have said that there are zoosexuals who identify as christian. I consider this part of the enduring pattern of religion, the capacity for twisting anything or cherry picking out a preferred interpretation.
Since it is not based in reason or the real agenda of a real god there is nothing to keep it coherent and consistent; nothing but the culture of followers which (as I am pointing out) is nearly as unreliable as the average individual.
Since it seems many of the people currently active on DART are going through some kind of phase where they think blind orthodoxy is cool (even 'masculine' I fear), and wish to cast everything in the light of 'strict dogma', I thought I would repost a selected exchange I found on a zoosexual forum recently. These are not my words:
[Fragcat] I know that the old testament does forbid bestiality, which even then bestiality is far different then me loving my dogs and sex simply being a part of that but the new testament doesn't mention it specifically and I have been told that as having sex with dogs is a form of love, that it is completely natural, ethical and allowed as far as Christianity goes since your just loving gods creations (animals).
Is this true?
[dogluver101] My little look up (may be with Venice AI) shows it doesn't mention nothing about the New Testament. Just adultery, men on men, theives, etc will not inherit the kingdom of God.
[Soapguy] I know 99.9% of Christians would think beastiality a terrible sin, and they would be disgusted by it. But as I've gotten older, I just think of it as appreciating God's creation. I'm not really a practicing Christian but I was raised that way, so it's still ingrained in me to an extent.
But when I see a beautiful dog or horse that's attractive to me, I don't have a problem thinking "look at this beautiful creature God made." And I'm glad he did make them.
As far as the actual scripture in the old testament, Leviticus if I recall, I think that was put there by men just as a way to punish people they thought were sick. Like "while we're writing this down, we might as well throw this in too." I mean there are other things it calls abominations, like eating shrimp, and pork I think?
[Soapguy] As far as the actual scripture in the old testament, Leviticus if I recall, I think that was put there by men just as a way to punish people they thought were sick. Like "while we're writing this down, we might as well throw this in too." I mean there are other things it calls abominations, like eating shrimp, and pork I think?
[bc161] Yeah, these are some of the parts that get me. Like, some of those parts seem almost definitely in there because they're trying to protect people from getting sick, so I sense that there are other things in the bible like that. Maybe they're just thinking like, hey, maybe don't bang your sheep because people are gonna think you're a weirdo and it's nice to have friends homie.
Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about so this is all from the gut.
My words:
Do I consider people who believe jesus is god and the savior of mankind to be real christians even if they think bestiality is fine?
Absolutely, because if cherry picking, deflecting, making excuses for, and ultimately ignoring scripture precluded one from being a christian, there would be no real christians.