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I just proved you wrong. So maybe you have that problem.
Reparation has the letters A and I, your software is faulty.
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Coal: In reality, however, intergenerational poverty is hardly limited to black folks' though.  White trash families throughout the South and the rest of this country remain at the bottom of the economic scale.  Ever been to West Virginia?  Eastern Kentucky?  California's numerous trailer parks?  They're as bad or worse as Chicago's South Side from a poverty perspective.  The reasons why are the same: there is no surer way to remain poor for the rest of your life than to have kids out of wedlock.

Are you claiming reparation for whites as well?
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Reparation was only paid to white farmers who gave up slaves. But the slaves themselves were not given reparation.

Wrong. So grossly wrong. 
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Reparation was only paid to white farmers who gave up slaves. But the slaves themselves were not given reparation.

Wrong. So grossly wrong.
When Slaveowners Got Reparations
Lincoln signed a bill in 1862 that paid up to $300 for every enslaved person freed.

On April 16, 1862, President Abraham Lincoln signed a bill emancipating enslaved people in Washington, the end of a long struggle. But to ease slaveowners’ pain, the District of Columbia Emancipation Act paid those loyal to the Union up to $300 for every enslaved person freed.

That’s right, slaveowners got reparations. Enslaved African-Americans got nothing for their generations of stolen bodies, snatched children and expropriated labor other than their mere release from legal bondage.

The compensation clause is not likely to be celebrated today. But as the debate about reparations for slavery intensifies, it is important to remember that slaveowners, far more than enslaved people, were always the primary beneficiaries of public largess.
The act is notable because it was the first time that the federal government authorized abolition of slavery, which hastened its demise in Virginia and Maryland as runaways from these states fled to Washington. It offered concrete proof to enslaved people and their allies that the federal government might facilitate the destruction of slavery everywhere. And it confirmed the worst fears of their foes about an interloping tyrannical president.

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paid to white farmers who gave up slaves.
That's the problem with AI. The article says slaveowners LOYAL TO THE UNION. That means northern slaveowners, many who were most certainly not farmers, or necessarily white.
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When Slaveowners Got Reparations
Lincoln signed a bill in 1862 that paid up to $300 for every enslaved person freed.
Paid to white farmers who gave up slaves.

That's the problem with AI. The article says slaveowners LOYAL TO THE UNION. That means northern slaveowners, many who were most certainly not farmers, or necessarily white.
The only real use for illiterate slaves were labourers and field hands. Hence mostly farmers were slave owners.

Being loyal to the union simply means willing to remain in the union. Many  Souther States were seeking to separate from the union in protest.

Read your history. You received poor training in school and at your job.


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In New England, it was common for individual enslaved people to learn specialized skills and crafts due to the area’s more varied economy. Ministers, doctors, tradesmen, and merchants also used enslaved labor to work alongside them and run their households.

Your software could use a good rebooting.
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In New England, it was common for individual enslaved people to learn specialized skills and crafts due to the area’s more varied economy. Ministers, doctors, tradesmen, and merchants also used enslaved labor to work alongside them and run their households.

Your software could use a good rebooting.
Slavery in America.

During the 17th and 18th centuries, African and African American (those born in the New World) slaves worked mainly on the tobacco, rice, and indigo plantations of the Southern seaboard. Eventually slavery became rooted in the South's huge cotton and sugar plantations.
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You can't say Shila without AI.
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You can't say Shila without AI
Just parrot it.

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Thank you!
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Thank you!
You are a well trained parrot.
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And you are an entertaining AI.
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And you are an entertaining AI.
That is what a well trained parrot is supposed to do. Entertain!!
 You are a confused parrot.

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You are a very smart AI
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This has always been my problem with the white privilege narrative too. I think a lot of it is BS but the parts that are real would be better termed as “black oppression”—like it’s good that bad things aren’t happening to white people even if they shouldn’t be happening to anyone. It’s not a “privilege” to be treated justly. But the language as it stands exists to demoralize whites and drive further division.
The term exists because it spread to the rest of society from those who were on the short end of it.

It’s not a privilege to be treated justly - until you’re the one who is not being treated justly. Privilege is nothing more than a matter of perspective. When you live in a society where your skin color detrimentally impacts your well being - anyone who does not face that same impediment is privileged.

To point that out and have it contorted into a narrative meant to demoralize and drive division demonstrates the most basic disregard for the view point of others. 
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Spare me with the "injustice" rhetoric.

Every case DA Kim Foxx has prosecuted was the very definition of unjust and unfair. Yet there are no consequences.

You know why that is.
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This has always been my problem with the white privilege narrative too. I think a lot of it is BS but the parts that are real would be better termed as “black oppression”—like it’s good that bad things aren’t happening to white people even if they shouldn’t be happening to anyone. It’s not a “privilege” to be treated justly. But the language as it stands exists to demoralize whites and drive further division.
The term exists because it spread to the rest of society from those who were on the short end of it. 

It’s not a privilege to be treated justly - until you’re the one who is not being treated justly. Privilege is nothing more than a matter of perspective. When you live in a society where your skin color detrimentally impacts your well being - anyone who does not face that same impediment is privileged.

To point that out and have it contorted into a narrative meant to demoralize and drive division demonstrates the most basic disregard for the view point of others.
White privilege is a fact. How privileged is a matter that whites have not resolved yet despite 2 world wars and a 3rd world war on its way.  Maybe Putin will put the question to rest.

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White privilege is a fact.
if it cannot be measured scientifically, and is not logically-necessary, it does not qualify as a fact
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Don Lemon getting schooled on live television about reparations. 

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Yeah, that was a pretty good smackdown educating Don Lemon on how African slavers were privileged and how the English were oppressed by having to pay for a fleet to kill all the African Slavers.
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Comparing BLM to Hamas is just stupid as fuck, it's not even worth addressing but who cares I am on a forum so let's address it briefly.

The difference is primarily in the means but even the end-goal for BLM isn't annihilation of the overarching ethnicity from their vicinity whereas with Hamas it is.

This is @Coal who has blocked me, so anyone who upvoted his post is free to reply.
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You could make an argument BLM wants to destroy the nuclear family among other cultural institutions, which is a form of cultural cleansing.
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White privilege is a fact.
if it cannot be measured scientifically, and is not logically-necessary, it does not qualify as a fact
White size have been measured  scientifically routinely and found inferior than blacks. Yet white privilege is maintained.

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You could make an argument BLM wants to destroy the nuclear family among other cultural institutions, which is a form of cultural cleansing.
No, BLM is founded upon the principle of the black and anti-racist-non-black dads/papas etc and mum/mom/mamas etc that stuck around while the anti-BLM types went all gangster and ditched their kids. Sure some are lesbians, gays and trans without children and they were pioneers and that is not being 'anti family' it's being pro-freedom.

I say dad and mom/mum instead of just father and mother for a reason there.

It may have violent rioters saying George Floyd is why they're doing what they always did as vandals long before as antifa but the fact is BLM is about so much more and has pushed for so much since the emancipation which still left blacks severely disadvantaged in so many measurable areas of where life should be fair on us.
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"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable," it says on the BLM page titled "What we believe."

This kind of statement is borderline child abuse as every sociologist knows a single parent home with children out of wedlock produces underprivileged children, regardless of the color of your skin.
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"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable," it says on the BLM page titled "What we believe."
What are you supposed to do when so many of your men died in gang wars, ditched and were irresponsible etc?

And what of the drug-addicted mothers? I am not stereotyping here as a racist, these are real problems in all ghettos/slums/trailer-parks for all races actually in all countries.

Poor professions also involve brutal accidents, you think they get sufficiently compensated when chemicals or physical damage hurts the breadwinner's health making them depend on the others?

BLM was never just about blacks, ignore the name of it. It was about backing the underdog and unfairly treated. You can say what you want about how some use the newfound sympathy, it doesn't matter. That is like saying that because 1 person gets into something only because they are disadvantaged in X way and then use the position or privilege irresponsibly that therefore all who have their disadvantage should have the leg-up.

I am not being stupid here, I know you can say 'omg you are saying they need help, how degrading!' I already posted elsewhere that I think this new phrase "white savior complex" is only unhealthy when it leads to superficial help that barely addresses the long-term causes and roots of issues either at home or abroad. You would never hear an indian slum dweller going 'ew you upper-class Punjab saving me to feel better about yourself, pathetic savior complex' unless that person only saved them and hurt others constantly.

There is nothing wrong feeling bad for those who have it hard and that is the root of the entire left-wing philosophy, after all.
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What are you supposed to do when so many of your men died in gang wars, ditched and were irresponsible etc?
Hold mothers having children out of wedlock accountable for child neglect.
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White privilege is a fact.
if it cannot be measured scientifically, and is not logically-necessary, it does not qualify as a fact

BINGO!!!!
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What the hell? So you literally support being a virgin to marriage? Make your stance clearer and I will trap you later with something.

For instance contraception and all things are not available to the poor with any remote ease, in America, combine that with the stigma against sex outside marriage and it gets done behind backs u protected.

So, start holding society responsible or forever have a cycle.

Out of curiosity, what is your view on abortion in those circumstances??