Posts

Total: 42
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11

I wonder when they'll end the ridicule, it's pitiful,
Understand my presence here's a miracle,
Imagine the site without me in its early days... Got banned and yet my presence remains far from minimal,
Banned first week, was it? Hell, that's how I roll, I'm that antivillain you'll love to hate and hate to need like a fraction that's not simplifiable and vigilantly indivisible,
I'm the one to rise to second place on leaderboards and not even contemplate being chill at all,
I want to climb or teach, a primal beast that's here to stay and try to slay me, David, you'll leave miserable,
This aint biblical, it's Luciferan, I'm a monster that's invincible,
I'm the demon Airmax tried to slay that bided time and prayed DDO would find the fate it did, how spiritual?
I'm the one to block then cry and bitch yet witches know I'm true to all my principles,
Also one they mock and knock off a pedestal, but I stay here at the pinnacle,
Amphibian that regrows my limbs, axolotls fear this salamander when he's near at all,
I'm the one to take the hits and systematically recover, oh so clinical,
Some call me a sad man, others whiny little bitch but I prefer RM the unkillable.
FLRW
FLRW's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,511
3
4
8
FLRW's avatar
FLRW
3
4
8
-->
@RationalMadman

Your profile pic really is you, isn't it?
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@FLRW
Sure
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@FLRW
I know for a fact that RM is bald with buck teeth and a zit problem.

His Rapping pseudonym is Spot the Hairless Rabbit.

ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,871
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
-->
@zedvictor4
His Rapping pseudonym is Spot the Hairless Rabbit.
Listen carefully and you will hear....

Bap - Rap - Bap - Rap, i.e. a repeating loop of a very personal narrative stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality

Bat - Rat - Bat - Rat,  repeating loop narrative of a very personal narrative stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality

Cat - Spat - Cat - Spat,  i.e. a repeating loop of a very personal narrative stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality

Hack - Smack - Hat - Smack,  i.e. a repeating loop of a very personal narrative stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality

Jack - Rack - Jack - Rack,  i.e. a repeating loop of a very personal narrative stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality

Bad - Sad - Bad - Sad, i.e. a repeating loop of a very personal narrative stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality






RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ebuc
And what do we hear in your posts?


Draw us a diagram please.
ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,871
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
I hear you still blocking me with your fear of truth mentality .....

Tap - Cap -Tap - Cap, i.e. a repeating loop of a very personal narrative, stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality

Blap - Slap - Blap - Slap, i.e. a repeating loop of a very personal narrative, stuck-in-lifes-rut mentality




RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ebuc
It was funnier the first time
ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,871
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
Best humor comes from truth. Vasectomies have doubled in Miami since abortion bans --friggin Supreme court conservative assholes have no empathy---
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@ebuc
Vasectomies have doubled.

Sort of pro-life hypocrisy really.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@zedvictor4
I don't see hypocrisy there, that's called wisdom.
ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,871
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
-->
@zedvictor4
Sort of pro-life hypocrisy really.

Its called concern for women, or, concern for the man who needs to keep birth control a top priority in their personal life.

Yes one option that only involves the woman is remove, so sort of like hypocrisy for man to switch to the longer-term alternative.

Although, the woman also will be appreciative of man to consider that option as she also may want to birth control , that is now more limited to her.
K_Michael
K_Michael's avatar
Debates: 38
Posts: 749
4
5
10
K_Michael's avatar
K_Michael
4
5
10
I just noticed that nearly 20% of the debates on this site are RM
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@RationalMadman
Sensible for sure....Just call me Mr Wise.

But pro-lifers supposedly have a moral crusade.....Albeit a hypocritical one.

The potential for a life must be present within the sperm and the egg.

So if some  pro-lifers advocate sterilization, they clearly also wish to pick and choose their moments of high morality.
K_Michael
K_Michael's avatar
Debates: 38
Posts: 749
4
5
10
K_Michael's avatar
K_Michael
4
5
10
-->
@zedvictor4
The potential for a life must be present within the sperm and the egg.

The problem I tend to run into is that most pro-lifers tend to believe in souls (usually instilled in the zygote at fertilization). Some will use words like "conscience" or "humanity," but essentially they're pointing at something that you can't prove is there.
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@K_Michael
Exactly.


RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@zedvictor4
Not really lol.

How is it morally better to create the baby and then kill it? What nonsense are you talking?
Athias
Athias's avatar
Debates: 20
Posts: 3,192
3
3
9
Athias's avatar
Athias
3
3
9
-->
@K_Michael
The problem I tend to run into is that most pro-lifers tend to believe in souls (usually instilled in the zygote at fertilization). Some will use words like "conscience" or "humanity," but essentially they're pointing at something that you can't prove is there.
How does one measure "conscience"?

K_Michael
K_Michael's avatar
Debates: 38
Posts: 749
4
5
10
K_Michael's avatar
K_Michael
4
5
10
-->
@Athias
It's just another word people use instead of "soul" in this case. I definitely see soul and human more often, but it has come up before.
Athias
Athias's avatar
Debates: 20
Posts: 3,192
3
3
9
Athias's avatar
Athias
3
3
9
-->
@K_Michael
It's just another word people use instead of "soul" in this case. I definitely see soul and human more often, but it has come up before.
How can one prove one's "soul" to you?
K_Michael
K_Michael's avatar
Debates: 38
Posts: 749
4
5
10
K_Michael's avatar
K_Michael
4
5
10
-->
@Athias
How can one prove one's "soul" to you?
You can't. My first post that you quoted literally said "they're pointing at something that you can't prove is there."
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@RationalMadman
Emotive use of semantics dear RM.

Fertilization will occur (creation).

Killing babies is infanticide.

Removal of unwanted zygotes is what it is. Practical.

And morality is a variable concept.

And no one is right and no one is wrong.

Because right and wrong are also variable concepts.

In my opinion of course.

Your opinion may differ.

Such is the variability of opinions.


RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@zedvictor4
So... you'd rather create it and kill it.
Athias
Athias's avatar
Debates: 20
Posts: 3,192
3
3
9
Athias's avatar
Athias
3
3
9
-->
@K_Michael
You can't. My first post that you quoted literally said "they're pointing at something that you can't prove is there."
When they refer to the "soul," to what do you believe they're referring?

K_Michael
K_Michael's avatar
Debates: 38
Posts: 749
4
5
10
K_Michael's avatar
K_Michael
4
5
10
-->
@Athias
When they refer to the "soul," to what do you believe they're referring?

I believe they are referring to nothing. What they believe I'm not entirely sure, but generally some inherent sense of being independent of your body that lives on after biological death.
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@RationalMadman
Well,

Emotive semantics again.


Me personally,

I would rather not create it in the first place,

If it wasn't planned.

But others think and do differently.

Nonetheless.

I don't suppose that anyone creates,

With the sole aim of killing.

Medical and surgical intervention,

Gives us a plethora of possibilities these days.

Like,

Safe abortion when mistakes are made,

Or,

Gender realignment, which is,

No more or less,

The destruction of creation.

See how easy,

Semantics is.

ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,871
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
-->
@zedvictor4
@K_Michael
The potential for a life must be present within the sperm and the egg.

Zed, the egg and spermoza are each alive, biologic life, both of them.

We only see biologic life coming from an already existing biologic life, we have not ever seen biologic life coming from where before there was none. Do you understand this concept?

No one knows the origin of biologic life and it may not be on Earth i.e. a panspermia scenario is entirely possible.
ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,871
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
-->
@K_Michael
@Athias
How can one prove one's "soul" to you?
I agree we cant, however, we can abstractly consider what the closet concept the word soul may relate to, in our occupied space Universe.

Without going into the mechanisms of how I came to my conclusions, i.e. to keep this simple, I believe that the biologic life is encoded in the Meta-physical { Spirit-3 } Gravitational field ---a multi-tude of space-time tori--   i.e. the soul is outside/beyond our occupied space physical reality.

..........space(>*<) i (>*<)space.....

space = the macro infinite non-occupied space beyond finite occupied space Universe

(  ) = positive geodesic curvature of Meta-physical Gravity { Spirit-3 }

)( = negative geodesics of Meta-physical Dark Energy { Spirit-4 }

> < = invaginations from peak of geodesic curvature of Gravity and Dark Energy

* * = bilateral consciousness and minimally existent as a set of twoness/otherness/awareness





ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,871
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
-->
@zedvictor4
Fertilization will occur (creation).
Combinatorical genetics --combination of biologic life--   creates off spring/progeny

Removal of unwanted zygotes is what it is. Practical.
Correct as circumstances alter cases, ergo, each an every human reserves the choice to consider their personal set of circumstances.

And morality is a variable concept.

Correct again. Zed your on a roll dude.

And no one is right and no one is wrong.
Correct again. Damn your good!

Because right and wrong are also variable concepts.
Correct again, as right and wrong is relative to the circumstances.
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@ebuc
I understand the concept.

Ask pro-lifers what life actually is, and no one actually knows.

I assume that the sperm and the egg inherit their life force from the mother and father, who inherit it from, who inherit it from, etc etc.

What is it in the seed that lies dormant in the ground for years and years waiting for rain?


Maybe it is GOD given.

But where did a GOD get it from?