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@secularmerlin
False dichotomy. Some of the bible is literal and some of it is metaphorical. The bible though, is all true.
What do you believe and why?
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@ethang5
How do you determine which parts are literally true versus those which are allegorical?
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@Stephen
What do you mean by left the planet? Are these physical beings we are discussing?
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@secularmerlin
Ancient aliens/gods.What do you believe in and why?
Why? because I like to and want to.
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@Stephen
So you would like to believe in ancient aliens/gods. Do you have any objective reason to believe that or do you just like the idea whether it is true or not?
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@secularmerlin
What do you mean by left the planet?
I am sure I cannot put that any plainer than I have. Left means as in left and gone, not here, left.
Are these physical beings we are discussing?
I believe so yes.
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@Stephen
How did they accomplish this exodus without leaving any geological or archeological evidence?
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@secularmerlin
So you would like to believe in ancient aliens/gods?
I do. I have already said I do.
Do you have any objective reason to believe that?
No
do you just like the idea whether it is true or not?
I have already said so. Do you always repeat your questions in a restructured manner?
Are these physical beings we are discussing?
Just to further my earlier response; yes, I don't know of any other type .
SecularMerlin
So you would like to believe in ancient aliens/gods. Do you have any objective reason to believe that or do you just like the idea whether it is true or not?
Stephen
Do you always repeat your questions in a restructured manner?
I think you will find the above is two sentences. One statement and one question. I'm not sure why you chose to change my period to a question mark or to break my second sentence into two separate sentences but that those two actions are what has given the appearance of repetitive questioning. That said if I am having trouble understanding someone's position I have no problem restructuring my question and asking again .
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@ethang5
Actually most of the bible is fiction, fabrication and lies. Bible believers are incapable of examining the writings contained in the bible and determining the validity of those writings. Ignorance is, as always, bliss for the deliberately unaware.
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@secularmerlin
I'm not sure why you chose to change my period to a question mark
because they are questions. Rhetorical maybe but questions all the same.
Start again. You ask
"What do you believe in and why"?
Ancient aliens/gods. Why? because I like to and want to.
So you would like to believe in ancient aliens/gods.
I have said "I like to", not I WOULD like to.
Do you have any objective reason to believe that
No.
or do you just like the idea whether it is true or not?
Already stated, that because "I like to".
That said if I am having trouble understanding someone's position I have no problem restructuring my question and asking again .
And doing this makes you understand the answer better even though it is exactly the same response. I see. Well this is what causes circular arguments. One person will insist on restructuring or just plain asking the same soddin question over and over again, and the other will just get entirely peed off and wonder is the questioner thick,( I don't think you are: at the moment anyway) or just being plain awkward for the hell of it and a bit of attention.
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@Stephen
If I reformulate a question because I do not understand your answer and you give me exactly the same response then I am not the one who has stymied the conversation. That being said I understand that you like believing as you do regardless of any evidence for or against your hypothesis so perhaps we could move on.
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@vagabond
Bible believers are incapable of examining the writings contained in the bible and determining the validity of those writings.
O.K. So what valid reason do you have for saying;
Bible believers are incapable of examining the writings contained in the bible and determining the validity of those writings. ?
And what valid reason and authority do you have for saying;
Actually most of the bible is fiction, fabrication and lies. ?
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@Stephen
I rely on reality. There has never ever been a world wide flood that was so huge that it covered Mt Everest. There are several physical problems that prove that story a lie, not least of which is the amount of water on the planet and the fact that no other civilisation mentions a flood that killed all of their civilisation. Pretty dumb don't you think? Think is something beyond your ken I accept, but give it a try.
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@Stephen
And doing this makes you understand the answer better even though it is exactly the same response. I see. Well this is what causes circular arguments. One person will insist on restructuring or just plain asking the same soddin question over and over again, and the other will just get entirely peed off and wonder is the questioner thick,( I don't think you are: at the moment anyway) or just being plain awkward for the hell of it and a bit of attention.
You will get to know him. He will just keep asking questions till you figure out his ...........problem.
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@vagabond
I rely on reality.
I believe it is a book of war and politics. What about you?
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@Stephen
What is?
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@ethang5
I don't know WTF you are but if you object to questions that appear too difficult for you to answer I would suggest you examine your inabilities rather than accusing someone you don't know of claims you create that are unsustainable.
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@vagabond
The bible. You concentration span is very limited isn,t it.What is?
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@secularmerlin
I do not believe in gods because the evidence to the contrary is weak or non-existent. I reject the existence of the Abrahamic god(s) because evidence argues against.
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@vagabond
O.K. So what valid reason do you have for saying;
Bible believers are incapable of examining the writings contained in the bible and determining the validity of those writings. ?
What makes you a better authority on such matters?
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@Stephen
Reality. No flood higher than Mt Everest. Really simple, even for a godist.
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@ethang5
--> @Stephen Reply. And doing this makes you understand the answer better even though it is exactly the same response. I see. Well this is what causes circular arguments. One person will insist on restructuring or just plain asking the same soddin question over and over again, and the other will just get entirely peed off and wonder is the questioner thick,( I don't think you are: at the moment anyway) or just being plain awkward for the hell of it and a bit of attention.ethang5 You will get to know him. He will just keep asking questions till you figure out his ...........problem.
I don't mind answering his questions. He just asks the same ones as if he is waiting and or expecting a different answer.
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@vagabond
Reality. No flood higher than Mt Everest. Really simple, even for a godist.
That is debatable though isn't it? And this doesn't make you an authority does it. It is a reasonable question, I will agree. But do you know which was first, the alleged flood or the formation of Everest?
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@Stephen
As I said, you will get to know him.
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@Stephen
It's not debatable at all. It's a fact as I proved. Still, you are entitled to believe anything some bronze age savage imagined, unfortunately that just makes you the fool. Don't stop believing in the three little pigs.
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@Stephen
I haven't seen you supply an answer. Wanna try?
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@ethang5
Who TF are you and how would you know?
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@vagabond
The flood
There are several physical problems that prove that story a lie, not least of which is the amount of water on the planet ...
It is now believed that Mars was once a watery planet. Why not the earth?
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@Stephen
So you prefer to deny reality. Good for you. I prefer reality and have no need of fairy tales to make my life meaningful.