Most people dont know how badly the pedophiles are treated in prison

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The prison is a very bad place if you are a pedophile.

If other prisoners have it bad, pedophiles have it 1000000 times worse.

I was in prison for pedophilia.
As soon as I arrived, it was immediatelly made clear to me that I will be bullied much more than anyone else there.

Even tho I didnt do anything bad, I was still subjected to beatings, humiliations, daily provocations, and my stuff was often stolen.

When you are forced to be in the same room with a bunch of people who hate you, you know its not gonna be fine.

I heard many stories of pedophiles being raped with a stake, burned...many who were found hanged...

I was forced to take medications, which in my opinion have not helped me much.

Its impossible to hide that you are in there for pedophilia. Somehow, they found out in the first few hours.

They first start questioning me why and how.

Then they said that if it was up to them, they would kill me.

My advice for everyone is:
Never go to prison. People there are not people like in the normal world.
I am not saying that people in the normal world are better.
I am simply saying that in a normal world, you have a choice not to be with them in the same room.

And of course, in my opinion, the prison system is a mess.
Its more of a torture camp.
This does not surprise me.
Considering that most people justify torturing of children and animals, its logical that they will also justify torturing prisoners.

I have heard most people say that pedophiles need to be tortured and killed. 
I am assuming this is because most people are psychopaths.

Sadly, I know the world will never change. In fact, the entire human history is just wars, rape and torture.

So it would be silly to expect that our psychopathic ancestors would give birth to anything different.

Some people will say: But there is evolution!

Yes, the evolution consists of child being different from parent.

However, historically, this difference only occured in small amount of cases. This is insufficient to change society.

So I wouldnt rely on evolution to solve the problem. 

I will admit that I dont know the magic solution for violence.
The world will probably be ruled by violence until the world perishes.
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My advice for everyone is:
Never go to prison.
Geez the novelty and depth of your wisdom....
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Actually most people don't care, not that they don't know.
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They actually like it a lot when they hear pedophiles are being tortured or killed.

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They actually like it a lot when they hear pedophiles are being tortured or killed
Even in American prisons if they know you are a pedophile they will gang up against you because that is the lowest of the low to abuse children.

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Do you justify it?
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Do you justify it?
Preying on little children would be the absolute worst. But that does not justify treating them any different than people suffering from mental illness.

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My advice for everyone is:
Never go to prison.
How about “don’t engage in pedophilia”?

Not suggesting that you deserve to be tortured as you apparently were, but that’s kind of an odd take away given that the reason you were being treated so harshly was because of whatever actions brought you there.
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Oh look, the pedophile posts yet again. 
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We live in a society of conditioned reality.
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The town I used to work and had a prison. They had a riot in the late seventies. The inmates went to PC and basically killed everybody. They were pretty much all pedophiles, rats and guys it used to work in law enforcement.
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Here in the UK prisoners who for whatever reason are likely to be at risk of attack by other inmates are segregated.
 
We don’t lock up pedophiles, that would be thought crime.
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Actually, pedophiles need to be completely separated from other prisoners.

Pedophiles are not like other people. Pedophiles believe children have rights.

Pedophile's mere presence bothers non-pedophiles.

Its almost impossible for a pedophile and non-pedophile to be in the same room without great problems.
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Actually, pedophiles need to be completely separated from other prisoners.

Pedophiles are not like other people. Pedophiles believe children have rights.

Pedophile's mere presence bothers non-pedophiles.

Its almost impossible for a pedophile and non-pedophile to be in the same room without great problems.
Children have rights; they are also more vulnerable to manipulation and exploitation than adults. Children will readily accept and believe what is told to them, a belief in Santa Claus would be a good example.
 
A Pedophile is simply someone who has a sexual attraction to prepubescent children and providing they don’t act upon that attraction I have no problem with it, but those who do act upon it to satisfy their own sexual desire and who exploit a child’s vulnerability to manipulation need to be kept away from children.
 
Children have rights and one is to be free from sexual exploitation.

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Children dont have rights in your society.

Rights would consist in children being able to control what happens to their bodies.

Since they dont have such control, they dont have rights.

If child must do something against her will, then its not a right.

Just because a child can believe in lies, this doesnt mean you are allowed to decide what happens to her body against her will.

The opposite case means that her body doesnt belong to her, but to you.

This is why pedophiles are hated. They believe children have rights.

Hence the question: what if the child consents to be in a relationship with a pedophile?
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Children have plenty of rights in the UK, from what I read,

A right is an entitlement to something,

We all have rights, and lack some rights, as we are not entitled to 'everything.

. . .

Pretty common story to hear of pedophiles in prison being beaten or killed though,
Various reasons I'm sure.

. . .

Norway has nice prisons I hear.
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Children dont have rights in your society.

Rights would consist in children being able to control what happens to their bodies.

Since they dont have such control, they dont have rights.

If child must do something against her will, then its not a right.

Just because a child can believe in lies, this doesnt mean you are allowed to decide what happens to her body against her will.

The opposite case means that her body doesnt belong to her, but to you.

This is why pedophiles are hated. They believe children have rights.

Hence the question: what if the child consents to be in a relationship with a pedophile?
A child who can be manipulated and easily persuaded to do what an adult requires lacks the capacity to consent to such a relationship, coercion is not consent.   
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Please dont confuse rights with force.

If I am forced to do something, it is not my right. Its not even my decision.

Since others make decisions about childs body against childs will, the rights of a child are reduced to nothing.
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We 'have 'legal rights, 'due to force.

Of course there are 'moral rights people speak of, 'expected treatment in a society,

But I prefer talking about 'rights with a 'bit of subjectivity,
Though I speak objective at times,
For instance I don't think children can consent to sex with an adult,

Or sure people can 'talk gray areas, like an 18 year old who 'just turned 18 that day, getting together with a 17 year old,
But that's not what people mean usually, I think.

More often when I happen to come across some person trying to justify pedophilia, they go all in,
Where they'd claim absurdities (From my view)
Such as a 30 year old and a 5 year old being normal,
Bah,

Sure normal is as normal does,
'Prison gets 'normal, once one has been institutionalized, normalized to it.

But I'd rather my society not get normalized to adults and children getting together.
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"A child who can be manipulated and easily persuaded to do what an adult requires lacks the capacity to consent to such a relationship, coercion is not consent"

You cant decide instead of a child about what happens to childs body.

If child wants sex, it is childs decision.

You cannot decide about what will happen to childs body unless child agrees with it.

If child isnt allowed to decide about own body, then the child has no rights.

Since you take for your right to violate childs consent, it is funny that you attack pedophiles for upholding childs consent.
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"We 'have 'legal rights, 'due to force"

Force needed to allow personal choice has nothing to do with force used to violate rights and take away the persons control about what happens to her own body.
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The most 'solid of rights, are those en'forced, by force.

Magna Carta, United States Declaration of Independence, Emancipation Proclamation.
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Most of those "rights" are not rights but a violation of individuals decisions related to own body.
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Well, rights. . .

Short term inpatient health ward I worked in,
You have the right to be monitored for your own safety,
You don't not have the right not to be monitored.

Depends on phrasing.

. . .

Sure though, people in some situations might still think they have rights, intrinsic human rights,
But I'm a moral nihilist, though practical in life,
People all seem to have different ideas.

. .

I 'don't think children have the 'ability to consent to sex with an adult though,
As I don't think there's an equal understanding, footing, power,
I did an entire lengthy debate on it, on Debate.org,
Pity it's gone, the website.
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"I 'don't think children have the 'ability to consent to sex with an adult though"

Children are the only ones who can make decisions about their own bodies.

If a child wants sex but you forbid it, you are violating childs decision in favor of your decision. Since the childs decision is related to childs own body, it follows that you are seizing control over their body as if it was your own.
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You cant decide instead of a child about what happens to childs body.

If child wants sex, it is childs decision.

You cannot decide about what will happen to childs body unless child agrees with it.

If child isnt allowed to decide about own body, then the child has no rights.

Since you take for your right to violate childs consent, it is funny that you attack pedophiles for upholding childs consent.
I think I have already made this point ... children can be easily manipulated therefore they lack the capacity to consent. But you don’t want to hear that.
 
 Children are naive and need to be protected, would telling a child not to eat poisonous berries take away control about what happens to their bodies.
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Let's say a child wants to stick a choking hazard, such as a toy in their mouth,

Am I violating their 'rights by taking that toy away?

I'd say not,
What right?
The right to blindly endanger and harm oneself in an undeveloped lack of knowledge?
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"I think I have already made this point ... children can be easily manipulated therefore they lack the capacity to consent. But you don’t want to hear that."

Your point was already refuted. Child is the only one who can make decisions about own body.

You cant decide about childs own body. You cannot decide instead of a child.

Even if a child doesnt know everything, you are still not allowed to decide for them against their will.

Child is the only one who can decide.
 
"Children are naive and need to be protected"
Children need to be educated.

"would telling a child not to eat poisonous berries take away control about what happens to their bodies"
This is you confusing education with force.
First, the force is only allowed if it uphelds personal control over own body.
Forbidding child to have sex does not do this. In such case, you are using force to forbid child to decide about own body.
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Such saving of childs life would upheld childs control over own body.

That has nothing to do with sex.

In case of sexual activities, childs life is not in danger. Neither is childs decision making. 

In fact, forbidding child to have sex is the thing that harms childs decision making.
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No,
The hypothetical child was trying to put the dirty stinking choking hazard of a toy in their mouth,
They were prevented from acting out their own will and body movement.