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@TWS1405
Your delusions of grandeur knows no bounds.
Stop projecting.
George Floyd KILLED himself.
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@Public-Choice
You’re the clown projecting. Can’t disprove my position so you go for the ignorant personal attack.
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@TWS1405
--> @Shila🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿
You cannot even count the number of people on the jury. Any wonder you were forced to retire.
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@TWS1405
Can’t disprove my position so you go for the ignorant personal attack.
Takes one to know one.
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@Public-Choice
@TWS1405Can’t disprove my position so you go for the ignorant personal attack.Takes one to know one.
Sophomoric "I know you are, but what am I" retort = hypocrisy.
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@Shila
I wasn't forced to retire. I chose to retire. Living for me and my wife is better than dying for "the man."
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@TWS1405
I simply cannot articulate and give justice to either what the black pastor says, or what the unbiased professional says regarding the cause of death of Floyd. Which is why I told you where you can scan ahead to and watch and listen to an actual expert.
“If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.”
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@Bones
If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.”
That’s pure bullshit.
A six year old does not have the requisite knowledge and comprehension skills to understand medically scientific terminology let alone SOP of law enforcement.
You’re just a denialist. And a lazy one at that. It’s clear you never had any intent or interest to engage in a legit discussion here. Your sophomoric banality is duly noted.
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@TWS1405
That’s pure bullshit.A six year old does not have the requisite knowledge and comprehension skills to understand medically scientific terminology let alone SOP of law enforcement.You’re just a denialist. And a lazy one at that. It’s clear you never had any intent or interest to engage in a legit discussion here. Your sophomoric banality is duly noted.
The fact that you have the energy to ramble on yet cannot give me an argument is very telling.
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@Bones
The argument has already been given and substantiated more than once.
The fact that you have the energy to continue to reply with such banality, avoiding those well-grounded arguments, is telling.
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@TWS1405
Sophomoric "I know you are, but what am I" retort = hypocrisy.
So now you're projecting hypocrisy now.
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@Public-Choice
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@TWS1405
--> @ShilaI wasn't forced to retire. I chose to retire. Living for me and my wife is better than dying for "the man."
So you went back to your wife after realizing what "the man." and you were doing to each other could have killed you. But "the man." damaged you enough that you had to retire. That does set the record straight.
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@TWS1405
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Is this supposed to make you look smart or something? I don't read binary, and the translator came back with:
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@Shila
You clearly don’t comprehend the slang phrase “the man.” As in, working for the man. 🤦♂️ Doesn’t surprise me, bot/troll. It’s expected from the likes of you.
Bye Felicia!
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@TWS1405
If that were true, the moral of the story should be don't kneel on a dying man's neck. At best, Chauvin actions exacerbated the problem and he willfully contributed to Floyd's death. That's still murder.
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@SkepticalOne
Wrong. The knee was on his shoulder. You were mislead to believe it was on the neck.
And whether or not Floyd was arrested is irrelevant given the fact he consumed a lethal dose of fentanyl; he was dead man walking.
Chauvin didn’t contribute to anything other than assisting in an arrest of a drug addicted criminal.
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@TWS1405
Wrong. The knee was on his shoulder. You were mislead to believe it was on the neck.
If there weren't eye-witnesses, expert testimony, video evidence, and ...a murder conviction(!) this might be a plausible argument. Unfortunately for you, these things exist and your position is absolute absurdity.
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@TWS1405
The argument has already been given and substantiated more than once.
Nope, merely you copying videos furthering your agenda. Again, the fact that you cannot yourself give me an argument shows that you do not understand it, and that you don't actually care what the video says - only that it furthers your own agenda.
That you can't give me a single line of evidence from yourself speaks for itself.
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@SkepticalOne
Wrong, Dorothy. You’re merely buying hook li r and sinker what the Wizard behind the curtain is selling you. None of the lies you stated matter. Hence the truths uncovered by Candace in the documentary. The city officials lied. The BS so-called experts lied. The jury lied (just like the OJ jury did). BLM lied. The media lied. Everyone lied. You’re trusting your lying eyes. Period. Fact. Period.
I’ve already laid out the true facts in my thread. You, Bones, Public Choice, et al are all in tucking denial and know it. Which is why you can’t prove my position incorrect and defer to faux appeals to authority.
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@Bones
Yes. And you’re still in denial. Ignorant. Pathetic. Lazy ass denial.
You all who come back with no intelligent rebuttal on point are.
Floyd killed himself. Chauvin did nothing wrong. Everyone involved is a liar and you’re drinking their koolaid.
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@TWS1405
You want to spit bars? At least make them rhyme.
You know what, let me do you better than you do.
Hey everybody it's me, God bless,
I'm the ex-cop that maintains blacks aren't undergoing duress,
What the hell's the interrogator to do when every time they ask 'did you do it' the lying degenerate won't confess?
I'll tell you what, they kick their butt and lie under oath to undo the mess,
I'm not here to be racist, libs face it, you're just sophomoric ignoramuses that aint ever gonna step up to TWS,
What does it matter that knee's on the neck; there was another on his chest?
We know the fentanyl's in his system, end of discussion; what's next?
Who are you to preach the bullcrap from your fake-ass press?
One more word and I'll get a private investigator to get you on some slip-up with the IRS.
Fuck these pathetic hypocrites with the locker-room jokes,
I wish they'd bring back the golden era when we could smack 'em unprovoked,
Kid steals a candy, slap on the wrist physically as you grab him by the coat,
Stamp on the stub of a white teen as you tell him 'don't do that, stay away, don't smoke',
Black teen does it and it's 4 months community service minimum, come on it's fair; guy has no hope,
I get it you fools have no experience, you just ignore the science, blind compliance, high on dope,
How the hell could Chauvin have killed Floyd? We all know the dealer's the one that sold the rope.
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@TWS1405
Yes. And you’re still in denial. Ignorant. Pathetic. Lazy ass denial.You all who come back with no intelligent rebuttal on point are.Floyd killed himself. Chauvin did nothing wrong. Everyone involved is a liar and you’re drinking their koolaid.
still 0 argument...
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@TWS1405
How about this. Since you think it is sufficient to link your opponent away to let someone else make their argument, why don't you come back after you've debunked these sources.
The Hennepin County medical examiner's office ruled Floyd's death was a homicide caused by "cardiopulmonary arrest" complicated by "restraint, and neck compression" while he was being subdued by police.
Medical Examiner Andrew Baker testified that the way officers held Floyd down and compressed his neck while restraining him "was just more than Mr. Floyd could take," given the condition of his heart.
Similarly, an independent autopsy commissioned by Floyd's family ruled "asphyxiation from sustained pressure was the cause" of Floyd's death.
Dr. Martin Tobin, a pulmonologist and critical care specialist of Loyola University Medical Center, also testified during Chauvin's trial that Floyd died of a lack of oxygen from being pinned to the pavement with a knee on his neck. He added, “A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died."
While findings from Floyd's autopsy revealed 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl in his blood, medical experts called as prosecution witnesses agreed the amount of fentanyl was not enough to be considered fatal.
Dr. Daniel Isenschmid, a forensic toxicologist at NMS Labs in Pennsylvania, testified and presented data showing the levels of methamphetamine found in Floyd's system were lower than the average amount found in 94% of DUI cases in 2020.
Cardiologist Jonathan Rich told the court: "I can state with a high degree of medical certainty that George Floyd did not die from a primary cardiac event, and he did not die from a drug overdose."
Dr. Lindsey Thomas, an expert witness who has reviewed documents and videos in the case, echoed Tobin's testimony and noted the slow nature of Floyd's death
- Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office, accessed April 21, Press Release Report Floyd, George Perry
- Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office, May 26, 2020, Autopsy Report
- NPR, April 8, "Chauvin Trial: Expert Says George Floyd Died from A Lack of Oxygen, Not Fentanyl"
- USA TODAY, June 1, 2020, "Medical examiner and family-commissioned autopsy agree: George Floyd's death was a homicide"
- Associated Press, April 9, "Medical examiner blames police pressure for Floyd's death"
- USA TODAY, April 9, "Derek Chauvin trial, day 9: Doctor testifying for prosecution says 'what Mr. Floyd was subjected to' would kill healthy person"
- C-SPAN, April 8, "Derek Chauvin Trial for the Death of George Floyd, Day 9 Part 1"
- USA TODAY, April 16, "Fact check: Fentanyl present in George Floyd's system but not enough to cause his death, experts say"
- The Washington Post, April 12, "Defense expected to begin presentation Tuesday as prosecution appears to near conclusion"
- USA TODAY, April 9, "Derek Chauvin trial, day 10: George Floyd died from low oxygen due to officers' restraint, forensic pathologist says"
- Forbes, June 3, 2020, "George Floyd Had Coronavirus, Autopsy Finds, But It Wasn't A Factor In His Death"
- The New York Times, April 8, "George Floyd showed signs of a brain injury 4 minutes before Derek Chauvin lifted his knee, a doctor testifies"
Here you are have fun.
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@Bones
Those are all the exact leftist talking points and faux sources the professional(s) in Candace’s documentary debunked.
See, had you taken the 15-20 min that it took to write that superfluous unsubstantiated crap and watched the part of the video I directed you to, you would have realized the futility in posting that garbage.
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@TWS1405
Ok well you are simply asserting without evidence that the sources have been refuted, so likewise I’ll say that you ought dig into my sources because one of them directly debunks the claim you are making.
Think about it numerically, I’ve provided 16 sources and you have provided one. A priori who is more likely to be correct?
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@Bones
A priori, no one would be correct unless there is a proposition involved that is just trivially true. I assume you mean something more like ceteris paribus, given that there would simply be less ways your position could be false (when compared to TWS1405).
Floyd killed himself. Period. No knee on his neck, shoulder, butt, or anywhere else would have killed him given the FACT that he was ALREADY in respiratory distress before cops arrived on scene. The audio of the bodycam proves that as they approach Floyd's car.
Floyd admitted to consuming too much narcotics too.
Chauvin is a race based political prisoner. Period.
"Fentanyl’s mechanism of action is believed to primarily involve its ability to act as an opioid agonist, which means that the drug readily attaches to neurons in the central nervous system that are specialized for neurotransmitters like enkephalins and endorphins.
These substances are often referred to as endogenous opiates because they have a similar chemical structure to opiate drugs. Because the neurons in the brain that are specialized for these endogenous opiates substances are ready-made for synthetic drugs like fentanyl, these drugs are very efficient at controlling pain, reducing stress, increasing sedation, and lessening anxiety.
They slow down the actions of the neurons in the brain and spinal cord. Because the brain is the control center for nearly every important bodily function, slowing the functioning of the brain also results in slowing the actions of other organs, such as the heart, lungs, kidneys, etc., as well as reducing the ability to engage in voluntary actions, such as walking, talking, and even thinking." (emphasis mine)
Fentanyl Overdose Symptoms
The signs and symptoms that occur in individuals who have overdosed on fentanyl can consist of:
- Extreme drowsiness, lethargy, lightheadedness, or dizziness.
- Marked difficulty with balance, difficulty with walking, and decreased motor coordination.
- Complaints of nausea and vomiting.
- Significant mental status changes that often include slurred speech, decreased speed of thought (that can be observed by extremely slow rates of speech), confusion, irrational actions, and/or aggressiveness.
- Pinpoint eye pupils and/or bluish or purplish lips, hands, feet, fingernails, and/or toenails.
- Noticeably slowed or shallow breathing (In some cases, people may stop breathing or produce gurgling noises.).
- A marked reduction in blood pressure and heart rate.
- Becoming unconscious or comatose.
The lethal effects that occur because of fentanyl overdose are most often due to significant respiratory suppression or the complete halting of breathing as a result of the central nervous system depressant effects of the drug.
(NOTE: George Floyd was exhibiting all the above bolded symptoms easily seen in various videos recorded of the incident)
"Some people believe that the stimulant effects of meth and the opioid effects of fentanyl would cancel each other out, creating a strong high without the side effects that can lead to a deadly overdose. Unfortunately, this is not the case. Drugs don’t all have the same effects on every user, and their side effects do not counteract one another as if there is some simple, chemistry equation behind their use. Instead, what winds up happening is the use of two very powerful drugs at once puts an inordinate strain on the user’s body and brain. In addition, many people who are taking meth and fentanyl together do not realize they are doing so. Often, individuals who take meth or cocaine laced with fentanyl have a low tolerance for opioids and are at risk of overdose (NIDA). Essentially, these are two of the most dangerous drugs one could take alone but especially in combination when it comes to overdose."
The effects of fentanyl and methamphetamine on the body and central nervous system are oppositional, so when taken together, one substance can dull the effects of another. When meth is laced with fentanyl, this can cause the meth user to take more doses, increasing the amount of fentanyl in the system and leading to overdose and overdose death.
When the two substances are being taken together intentionally, whichever product is being dulled by the other will result in increasing doses, posing a risk of overdose or at the very least overload in the body, which can have catastrophic results.
In short, combining fentanyl and meth can lead to:
- Dulling the effects of one substance or the other
- Overtaking one substance or the other
- Not experiencing overdose symptoms
- Delayed symptoms of overdose
- Meth Overdose:
- Trouble breathing
- Heart attack
- Stroke
- Chest pain
- Seizures
- High blood pressure
- High body temperature
- Intense hyperactivity or aggression
- Fentanyl Overdose:
- Very small pupils
- Severe respiratory depression
- Cold clammy skin
- Gray, blue, or pale skin
- Blue or purple lips and nails
- Complete stop in breathing
- Loss of consciousness
- Unresponsiveness, even to pain
- Vomiting
- Choking or gurgling sounds
(NOTE: Bolded points Floyd was obviously experiencing as seen in the various videos of the event)
Then there is this:
"Cardiopulmonary arrest is simply when the heart stops beating and lungs stop moving, which other medical examiners The Times reporter spoke with often do not include on their reports, as this happens in all deaths."
It is odd that medical examiners do not note that medical fact since it is an obvious occurrence in ALL manners of death. In other words, it is of absolutely no clinical significance as to the actual "manner of death," since it is an end result "in all deaths."
“1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL”
That’s just the first few words of the “Toxicology” section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.
But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this “a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances,” saying, “deaths have been certified with levels of 3.”
Three. But George Floyd went up to 11.
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@TWS1405
No it didn’t. No more than it did on the Oj trial(s).
Until you watch the linked you tube video giving unbiased feedback by a black pastor regarding the fact based truths Candace Owens uncovered, I won’t respond to you any further. You’re nothing but a broken record and I simply won’t beat that dead horse…never again.
What a big baby you are LCpl.
And Candace Owens is an idiot so she’s perfect for you to rely on for information.
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@TWS1405
Yes. And you’re still in denial. Ignorant. Pathetic. Lazy ass denial.
You all who come back with no intelligent rebuttal on point are.
Floyd killed himself. Chauvin did nothing wrong. Everyone involved is a liar and you’re drinking their koolaid.
Oh the brain power of an outright racist.