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@bmdrocks21
That's what HBC's are for.
Eliminating Affirmative Action will Improve Race Relations Long-Term
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@Greyparrot
That's what HBC's are for.
I’ve heard there is a nice, free virtual course that covers the race card. Think it’s called CNN
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@bmdrocks21
Nothing is ever truly fair. It’s not fair some parents do meth while pregnant and permanently disadvantage their kids. It’s not fair some kids only have one parent.Striving for actual fairness is a waste of time. But making it illegal for companies and schools to racially discriminate is a step in the right direction. Enough of making a large portion of white and Asian kids second class citizens because others in the same demographic category tend to do well
What a load of nonsense. So only the sort of fairness that suits you.
There's no basis for an actually civilised discussion here, it's all just political maneuvering.
resentment
read:
I'd prefer you were dead.
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@bmdrocks21
I’ve heard there is a nice, free virtual course that covers the race card. Think it’s called CNN.
Grifting 101?
Selective Fair Behavior as a Function of Psychopathic Traits in a Subclinical Population: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01604/full
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@badger
So selecting fairness based on skin color is a Psychopathic Trait...interesting hot take sir.
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@Greyparrot
If black people can maneuver AA, they should. Your nation hasn't the first clue what fairness means.
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@badger
Your nation hasn't the first clue what fairness means.
You have no idea how much better it is for a POC to be born in America in 2022 vs being born in Ireland in 2022.
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@bmdrocks21
I have some disagreements on your proposed history of racial policies
Fwiw, I am not one of those 1619 Project people. I think they greatly inflate the reach of slavery and black codes within the United States and do not focus enough on corporate racism and segregation through redistricting, which was everywhere but to significantly varying degrees.
I am a voluntaryist who likes capitalism, not one of those conspiratorial socialists who want to steamroll people's rights.
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@Greyparrot
You have no idea how much better it is for a POC to be born in America in 2022 vs being born in Ireland in 2022.
I have no idea why you're writing moronic shit at me.
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@Lemming
Because in a country with no free college or healthcare, it is a lifeline. And it's better to be resented than dead.
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@badger
Wouldn't that logic apply to 'any individual/group?
And create a society of conflict, of double faced, two dealing, liar, who prioritize victory no matter the means, or other people?
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@Lemming
Now you're getting it.
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@badger
I'm only getting that you're more and more wrong, with every post you make.
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@Lemming
Well you did well enough with that second to last post. I'll take it.
Maybe reread my post and your response a couple more times.
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@badger
Well,
In #67 you say,
"If black people can maneuver AA, they should."
Which I don't really understand,
If black people are identified as a group with their own interests and aims,
That they ought act underhanded if it serves their interests,
Then logically other groups exist as well,
And by your words, I see the implication of total war, in service of one's own group/self.
Which to me sounds moronic, well, unless one 'does value their group, in which case there's logic,
But I thought you were among the group of people appealing more to humanity, than skin color.
. . .
You also say,
"Your nation hasn't the first clue what fairness means."
Which you don't show/prove/demonstrate, just claim.
So I'll just claim as well, my nation seems fair to my view.
In #72, you say,
"Because in a country with no free college or healthcare, it is a lifeline. And it's better to be resented than dead."
Which I also don't get,
The government not giving people free healthcare or college, isn't a death sentence,
But I run with your post,
And posit that if a country ran on individuals and groups being dishonest and uncaring of honor, the country would be damaged,
You respond #74
"Now you're getting it."
Which I don't really,
You seem to suggest a nation damaging policy and claim that it's good, is all I get.
. . .
I don't mean this all in sarcasm,
I just don't get your logic or point really.
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@Lemming
Do you think black Americans should die in poverty without healthcare rather than maneuver AA?
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@badger
Why not just help people in poverty?
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@Lemming
Why not just help people in poverty?
You mean like free healthcare and college?
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@badger
I'm sure there are many methods to help the poor,
Why not just help people in poverty?
. . .
Though if a person get's a college education and moves to a better job,
The community they sprung from, is not fixed,
Bail the water, but leave the hole in the hull?
Though a person may get medication for their heart,
The community still has only has fast food joints and junk food about,
Bail the water, but leave the hole in the hull?
Though I might be wrong about how helpful or not healthcare and college is,
To the community, To the individual,
I haven't studied it,
The thread though, questions why focus on race.
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@Lemming
Why not just help people in poverty?
I think that's a great idea. I think you could try free college and healthcare like just about every other first world country.
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@badger
And yet in earlier posts, you encourage affirmative action?
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@Lemming
And yet in earlier posts, you encourage affirmative action?
Well it's probably of some help to some poor people right? But I was mostly just remarking upon the absurdity of resenting someone a lifeline.
Where there are no base guarantees like healthcare and education, you get a society exactly like what you described in #73. That's what gives people something to honour. And that's how you get an actually fair society.
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@badger
Why not just help the poor, regardless of race.
It's resented I imagine,
Because it encourages thinking of people as being of different tribes.
Because it helps less qualified people, compared to more qualified, opposite of meritocracy.
Not everyone likes or would choose to live in socialism/communism.
Some people prefer a measure of individualism in their nation.
I don't think that a lack of tax paid optional higher education, or healthcare for all,
Leads to anarchy.
I don't dislike different ways of living,
So much as other people's ways of living being forced on me,
There's nothing stopping people who want to live in a communist or socialist state, from forming their own community.
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@Lemming
I don't think that a lack of tax paid optional higher education, or healthcare for all,Leads to anarchy.
It's extreme individualism. Especially where healthcare is concerned and the exorbitant fees you guys pay for it.
That ends up in a society exactly like you described in #73. You lose all sense of the word "fair" choosing instead for individual vying.
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@badger
I do not think society ends up,
"A society of conflict, of double faced, two dealing, liars, who prioritize victory no matter the means, or other people." - #73
If it lacks tax paid health care or tax paid optional higher education.
I'm not against people forming communities that provide such,
But I 'like America's individualism.
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@Lemming
I do not think society ends up,"A society of conflict, of double faced, two dealing, liars, who prioritize victory no matter the means, or other people." - #73If it lacks tax paid health care or tax paid optional higher education.
I think it makes a very easy sort of sense. Might grow on you, who knows.
Nice chat, Lemming.
Ending AA will also, undoubtedly prove that many minorities just cannot complete but for the failures implemented by the intent of AA.
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@badger
There's no basis for an actually civilised discussion here
I agree, all you do is insult me and claim that any disagreement from what you say is made in ‘bad faith’.