Ultimate Reality

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You two Supreme Ultimate Reality botherers.

 
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@Mopac
 Wordsmean what ever you want them to mean.

They do in your case. Fawning sycophantic christians such as yourself are always trying to interpret words to suit your agenda and further your argument when caught on the backfoot.

 There is one clown here who tried to tell me that the word " touch" could actually mean   "light".




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@ethang5
Words mean only what he/she thinks they mean.

A lot like yourself, then. Someone who completely changes the meaning of a straight forward simple biblical word, and sometimes whole biblical sentences and biblical verses to make it fit your biblical argument or biblical opinion. 
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@Mopac
No you think your god applies to everyone and he doesn't. 
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@Mopac
You god is the one who send his "children" to hell. Not mine. 
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There is no difference between god and God they are fictional characters created by man.
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@Mopac
You are right. When you make God into an idol, you are mocking a great deal more than I.

The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is God, and there is no other. Is it so hard to admit The Truth?


This is why there can be no world peace. This should be the easiest thing in the world everyone can agree on, and people can't even do that.

Meanwhile, over 20,000,000 of my brothers and sisters were killed in the last century by people who treated believing in God like a mental illness and scourge on society.
How am I making God into an idol? And isn't he supposed to be the ultimate idol anyway?
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@Mopac
I am not mocking you. 

However, you are extremely exasperating to try to have a discussion with.
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@Mopac
So to be clear that's now two people in Club Not Mocking You.
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No.

Do you understand what The Ultimate Reality means?


Surely you can admit this exists.


What is the alternative?


It's absolutely necessary.



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@Polytheist-Witch
Of course The Ultimate Reality applies to everyone.

Your rebellion against The Truth is in vain, witch.

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Worshipping a character in a book would be idolatry
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@Mopac
Nope. Your god is yours. Your forcing it on everyone is evil. 
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@Stephen
You are the one who argues with the dictionary and church tradition.

I think my case has more authority backing it up than yours. I also think it would be easier to make the case that you are doing what you are accusing me of.

You can't confess The Ultimate Reality.

That automatically makes you a liar.


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@Polytheist-Witch
Words have meaning.

You have no understanding.

In the end, you will be humbled by REALITY, which is your God whether you acknowledge this or not.

No pushing by me neccessary.


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@janesix
I'm exasperating?


I am single handidly exposing atheism for what it is. You don't understand what I'm doing.



These people are at war with reality, they are delusional. They are in serious need of help.


And you are not helping them if you aren't geting with this.

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@Mopac
No.

Do you understand what The Ultimate Reality means?


Surely you can admit this exists.


What is the alternative?


It's absolutely necessary.
I still don't have a clear idea of your description of ultimate reality, no.

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@Mopac
Atheists are not delusional, and don't need your help.
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@Mopac
No I will not. Your god is a evil prick. I do not worship him and will not be involved in his afterlife crap. Your evil for saying he has any control or power over non followers. 
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The Ultimate Reality.

Reality as it Truly Is.

Reality in the truest sense.


If you can't accept this, you are truly lost. If you even entertain the idea that denying this isn't foolish, you aren't in much better of a position.



What do you all want? Have you no understanding? Whatever The Ultimate Reality is, that is what it is. Why do you want a created thing in its place? So you can justify yourselves. It's foolishness. Not worthy of serious consideration, and this is not an assertion of unreasonableness. It is not reasonable to deny God, or even be on the fence about it.

The Ultimate Reality exists.

Ya'll can't even admit the common denominator? 


Madness.



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@Mopac
I want you to quit forcing your beliefs on everyone and understand your god is yours alone. You are a bigot and you think Hell is cool. So a sadist too. 
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How did you come to your beliefs?
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The fact that you think I am forcing anything is proof that you are delusional.


There is no compulsion. You are free to chooose lies over The Truth. To your own detriment! 

And these lies will give you no lasting happiness or satisfaction. Your love of lies makes you a slave to them. The Truth sets you free!




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@janesix
Does it matter?

Those who put their faith in lying vanities forsake their own mercy. It is truly in everyone's best interest to GET REAL, and admiting that The Ultimate Reality exists is not a hard thing. These who deny it are effectively saying that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh. To those with understanding, hear!

There is no trurh in any of these people, they expose their wickedness when they deny Truth itself, and that is what they are doing. The only truth they believe in is the type of truth that is convenient. Reality is what they can get away with. They commit abominations, defiling themselves.

Well, God is quick to forgive the sins of those who repent, turn away from their wickedness and abide in The Truth.



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@Mopac
Yes you are forcing. You insist your god is the only one. Your god is not anyone else's. 
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@Mopac
I want to be given an explanation that isn't the same circular Truth=God=Ultimate Reality=Truth.

I also want to know why you feel the need to tell people with different beliefs than yours that they're under the universal dominion of your god whether they like it or not.
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Of course it matters. Were you indoctrinated? Were you born into your religion, or did you chose it ? If so, why?
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If you think you aren't under the dominion of The Ultimate Reality...

...you don't understand what that means.




It's not a circular argument. It is The Absolute Truth. It speaks on its own authority. If you deny it's authority, you are denying teuth itself and substituting it with LIES. This is wickedness. Truth is the highest good. Truth is good itself. The Ultimate Reality is the greatest good. Denying The Ultimate Reality is an abominable and wicked blasphemy.


And though every one of you who denies The Truth might as well be guilty of murdering everyone, there is forgiveness to those who repent and turn away from their wicked ways.
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Says who?
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@Mopac
Your god is a liar.