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To Polytheist-Witch: 

The reason you have no idea what the hell is going on here is because you're not an invested member of the site. You are a troll yourself, you have always been a troll, you've prided yourself on being a troll and now you want to be taken seriously. It's never going to happen cuz everyone knows you as a troll, you're hammering on the new people cuz you want to set up some sort of new established respectful position. Why I have no idea you go through these phases where you want to be a better person and it just doesn't work. This site is a joke it's always going to be a joke because even if you ban me for life there are so many idiots posting, insulting each other, trolling, multi-accounting. I was banned for a whole year and do you know how much the site increased membership in that year. Enough to cover the people that left with the Bish fiasco. They want to establish this place as a decent debate site. Delete everything, get rid of all the membership, force everyone to sign back up, block the people you know are trolls and start from scratch. 
Is a very concerning message.

When you were banned, some people wanted you back because they respect your freedom of speech.

Could you please return the favor and stop insulting our president?

If you get banned again, I will argue against the ban even if no one else agrees with me. However, you are making any future help extremely difficult with your insults.
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If you get banned again, I will argue against the ban even if no one else agrees with me. However, you are making any future help extremely difficult with your insults.
how about yours and wylted's actual hatespeech? you insult entire people such as you with the autistic.
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how about yours and wylted's actual hatespeech? you insult entire people such as you with the autistic.
Is a very misleading claim.

First, I abandoned the hatespeech completely, as promised before the elections. If you go to my profile, you will see that hatespeech was abandoned.

Second, this was not about hatespeech. It was about insults that make it difficult to remove ban.

If it was up to me, I would never ban Polytheist-Witch.
However, it is not up to me. If she gets banned again and if I have to convince someone to unban her, it will be difficult to convince that person in case she has previously insulted that same person many times over and over.
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You forgot to switch accounts.
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You forgot to switch accounts.
Is a misguided claim. I was accused of being an alt many times, simply because people want to believe such a thing.
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I definitely expected it from him. He is lauding his success with newer members rather than people with ‘old grudges’.

He basically inadvertently admits that the people who didn’t know how petty and immature he was were the ones that voted for him.

So, for some people, I do think it was unexpected
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I will tell you why I am salty.

This coward pretended he wasn't really running, didn't have a genuine campaign for me to attack, didn't let the actual tearing each other apart and debate happen. If he had done that and no shady gift card bribery, no shady anything, I'd take the L. I did drop out year 1, I can take an L when I genuinely see myself losing.

Instead, he let me have my guard completely down, I never got the chance to expose him or prove I'd be better with any remote argumentation and strategy. He just completely surprise attacked me by tryharding behind the scenes out of fucking nowhere with no platform.
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Come on man, this isn’t a fair criticism. I actually thought white flame did a good job at trying to be fair here in an unbiased way. I don’t think he generally cares who was president but just wanted to make sure the overall outcome was as fair as possible. I thought his announcement was pretty straightforward evidence of him knowing that this was going to be a controversial decision but that it was the best he could have made given the circumstances.

I understand your probably very sore about the result, but you shouldn’t be. You put up a hell of a fight and it was close, and you will probably get it next time if you run I’d imagine with how active you are here.

Chin up buttercup, but go easy on white flame.
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Wylted didn't run. He didn't have a platform, didn't let me engage him, attack his platform, attack his credibility or defend my own. He let me think it was going to be a cakewalk so I was like why dig up all his dirt in some callout thread that will look so dirty and toxic and may lose me the election as it will seem unprovoked.

Then he actually runs properly with full effort behind the scenes violating PM campaign rules and bribery rules as much as he felt he could get away with.

I have no reason to be fake nice to whiteflame until he starts banning based on that harsh feedback. I also didn't attack whiteflame there, the entire system is broken, where is Wylted's platform this year? Where could I have fought him?
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You don’t have to be fake nice to anyone, I just think you are misplacing blame on him for no reason man. If the system is broken maybe we should suggest a Meep that fixes things, requires a platform, candidates debating each other, and higher qualifications for voting eligibility or whatever else you want.

I think white flame was just trying to do his best job at being fair and unfortunately no matter what he decided he would severely piss off someone. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t but there was no animosity or personal gain from his decision so it doesn’t make sense to blame him for this IMO.

No offense to the other admins but white flame is one of the good ones lol
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we massively disagree on moderators (or 'admins'), I have already told you barney is my fave despite what he did to me.

I also am not interested in that stuff anymore. Some time from now, won't specify the years, I will make a website like this once I can seriously plan to fund an ad campaign of sorts and hire a long term PR person and on-and-off expert web developer for the tougher aspects of that.

Only Barney will have a shot at being a mod there, yes despite what he did to me. That is assured.

The rest of the mods here are a joke to me in terms of serious long-term moderation, they don't show sound judgement on a regular basis in their moderator decisions, Barney does and when he doesn't he at least is the one to cut down the time. I bet it is Barney giving whiteflame advice that leads to whiteflame appearing stable long-term.

Either way, I just don't care. Whiteflame is not my cup of tea.
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@RM

I could have sworn you have given a few other reasons for being ‘salty’.

But if your reason is expecting an easy win, you have no one to blame but yourself
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But if your reason is expecting an easy win, you have no one to blame but yourself
They always underestimate me to their own detriment. I remember hearing Dolly Parton joke about a similar attitude towards her that helped her outsmart everyone around her and win.
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Well hopefully, this rap battle will finally settle the one-sided tension between the two of you once and for all. 
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Lmao RM is a salty loser. Cue the salt Mr. Vice President 
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The tortoise didn't run. He let me think it was going to be a cakewalk so I was like why run as fast as I can and tire myself out, and perhaps injure myself.

- The hare.

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Idk if it's an intellect issue or something but you guys act as if it would have been sensible and wise of me to have made a thread tearing deep into Wylted's past destroying his reputation unprovoked when he was running on a clown candidacy without any platform.

That's just ridiculous as fuck and could easily have lost me the election. You are crazy to even suggest it.
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How did this forum get 5 pages, just from presidential updates?
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You lost anyway.
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Idk if it's an intellect issue or something but you guys act as if it would have been sensible and wise of me to have made a thread tearing deep into Wylted's past destroying his reputation unprovoked when he was running on a clown candidacy without any platform.

That's just ridiculous as fuck and could easily have lost me the election. You are crazy to even suggest it.
You feel that people seeing you attacking someone would have lost you the election - and yet feel you spending the last 4 years in this site systematically attacking people you don’t like did would not have lost you the election?

You launching into a tirade of attacks on Wylted - would be considered equally to the pope being Catholic, bears sh*tting in the woods and Oromagi responding to people with a sea of bullet points

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and to you having absolutely fuck all to contribute to the website's forums than dragging me down, you pathetic cretin.
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and to you having absolutely fuck all to contribute to the website's forums than dragging me down, you pathetic cretin.
Are you sure it’s a good idea to attack me like this with the next election a mere 360 days away?
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I have no intention of running in that circus act. Wylted was literally able to win it with no platform at all and having acted as he's acted in the past.

That means the system is absolutely faulty, meaning to play to win in the system is now 2 years in a row proven to favour the piece of dirt who just shows up and says 'hey I'm gonna make DART supafamussss dolla dolla'

I am not interested. You also need to really take a step back and consider that as a percentage of what you post you're nothing more than a negative version of a lackey to me similar to the percent you said I was to Dart itself and that's not only more embarassing, it's closer to true for you.

You have apparently paid out of pocket relentlessly to keep this website going, I am so confused why. Imagine you spent all that money on building your own debate website, you even have background in computer science you have told us.

There is of course one alternative, you being Mike himself. However, I doubt that... Though it is definitely viable.
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Also, what is more disturbing is the fact you got 3 upvotes to correctly noting that I lived true to the correct moral of the story of the hare and the tortoise, which was that had the hare not sprinted and instead paced itself patiently, it would have won instead of crashing out and oversleeping.

You say the dumbest stuff to make digs at me and some utter imbeciles upvote it.
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The tortoise didn't run. He let me think it was going to be a cakewalk so I was like why run as fast as I can and tire myself out, and perhaps injure myself.

- The hare

Based and tortoise-pilled president Wylted