A woman with two rifles/handgun killed at least three children and three adults in Nashville school

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So, where to begin.

First, when will Americans finally concede that there is no good reason for citizens to own semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines?

Second, so much for private schools being a safe haven from liberal public schools run by the states.

Third, red states are no better at controlling gun violence than blue states and more guns are definitely not making people safer.

Lastly, the shooter was a Christian woman shooting up a Christian school. So forget the theory this country would be better off if we just had more Christian religion in our lives.

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Rightwingers..................explain this?

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Use a single shot shotgun on a bus of kids,

Shoot the driver, than just work one's way, or use molotovs.

That'd be maybe 70 kids.

People are mistaken, thinking ooh, guns scary because of minor incidents.

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@Lemming

minor incidents.

Unbelievable

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@Lemming

And what is the reason it’s important for citizens to be allowed to own semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines?

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@IwantRooseveltagain

Frankly it 'is minor, in the grand scheme of things.

Compare it to something like Feudal Japan,

Ton of swords, samurai, and clans,

Lot of war, 'lot of death.

Though still arguable,

'There a weapon ban at least made sense, as it was a move to dismantle the samurai class,

Reduce means and ease of rebellion. (I assume)

. . .

People die a lot,

I'm not saying good, or that we shouldn't look for means to avoid death.

. . .

To maintain Freedom,

Being worthy,

You would rather cut off people's arms and legs, for fear they might kick or hurt one another,

Than try to create society that 'won't kick or hit one another, even 'with arms and legs.

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You support porn, abominations and LGBT, you get depression and violence in your society. Simple.

You may be confused by supposed "christian woman committing violence".

Christianity doesnt get to be blamed for troubles in society that rejects Christianity and embraces abominations.

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@Lemming

Compare it to something like Feudal Japan,
Ton of swords, samurai, and clans,
Lot of war, 'lot of death.

But we are not at war. So saying that deaths from gun violence is insignificant compared to the deaths we get from wars ( or Covid-19) doesn’t really say much.

If 10 people died every day from drinking tainted beer in this country, would you say, don’t worry about it, compared to WWII that’s nothing. I mean, you make no sense.

To maintain Freedom,
Being worthy,

Didn’t we “maintain freedom” just fine before ARs became a thing?

WTF does being worthy mean?

So in your brain, you think owning a gun is as important as having arms and legs.?

Now, arms and legs are used everyday. They are pretty necessary to live a normal life. An AR, not so much, actually not at all. Try again.

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@IwantRooseveltagain

America 'fought for and 'won her freedom, in the Revolution,

'My ancestors were there for that.

Worthy, for example not being an idiot who points guns at other people,

A person like that, I would not go hunting with.

Certainly I think there are many situations, in which a gun is useful,

As there are many situations, in which arms and legs are useful.

"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred."

Niccolo Machiavelli

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@Lemming

“When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred."

Niccolo Machiavelli

Do you take a lot of advice from people who were born and educated in the early 1500s?

America 'fought for and 'won her freedom, in the Revolution,

Yes that’s true. What’s your point?

Worthy, for example not being an idiot who points guns at other people,

See, that’s the problem, we have no way of determining who is “worthy” or crazy or will someday be crazy. You see the problem here?

Certainly I think there are many situations, in which a gun is useful,

Many? Define many. Do these situations all require an AR style gun?

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Hahaha,

Hell, I take advice from history a million years ago, if there is something worth listening to.

Of the Revolution, I've said enough, that my point should be perceivable, in my opinion.

No, I don't see the problem,

Changes in individuals can be addressed when they come about,

When my second brother went literally insane from drug abuse, we took his gun from him,

Just because I 'could go literally insane if 'I were to take drugs, doesn't follow give all guns only to the government.

Of the usefulness of guns, I've said enough, that my point should be perceivable, in my opinion.

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[IwantRooseveltagain] And what is the reason it’s important for citizens to be allowed to own semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines?

So that the threat of insurrection is severe of course.

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@Lemming

If they have something worth listening to.

Seems like a pretty big IF. I mean, it was called the dark ages for a reason, right?

Of the Revolution, I've said enough, that my point should be perceivable, in my opinion.

I don’t understand what point you are trying to make. Somehow winning the War for Independence means citizens should own semiautomatic weapons?

Changes in individuals can be addressed when they come about,

Oh really, how would that happen before they go nuts and kill a bunch of people?

When my second brother went literally insane from drug abuse, we took his gun from him,

So what happens when someone goes insane, from drugs or otherwise, and they don’t have anyone in their life to take their guns away?

Of the usefulness of guns, I've said enough

I really don’t think you have said enough, or thought about it enough - in my opinion

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So that the threat of insurrection is severe of course.

So we are going to endure all these mass shootings, and watch all these children get murdered in their schools and other places, just in case we need to threaten the government with insurrection? Couldn’t we just be better citizens, pay attention and elect better people rather than be lazy, elect morons, thieves and blowhards like Trump, and then try to force them out with violence. Wouldn’t that make more sense?

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Still, a lot is worth learning from, in my view, in the Middle Ages.

What happens when a drunk doesn't have someone to take away their car keys?

Sh*t happens.

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The woman was gender dysphoric

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So that the threat of insurrection is severe of course.
[IwantRooseveltagain] So we are going to endure all these mass shootings, and watch all these children get murdered in their schools and other places, just in case we need to threaten the government with insurrection? Couldn’t we just be better citizens, pay attention and elect better people rather than be lazy, elect morons, thieves and blowhards like Trump, and then try to force them out with violence. Wouldn’t that make more sense?

To state the obvious:

A) you can't elect anyone better if the election system is vulnerable to asymmetric cheating.

B) A simple majority is no guarantee of morality, there should be a fear that even an armed minority; if pushed far enough, could do significant damage

C) The number of people who die in mass shootings is exceedingly small compared to other causes of death.

D) There are many more ways to kill people for the determined attacker

E) Outlawing guns will not prevent the acquisition of guns, thus mass murder will not end. At best they will be reduced or shift towards other vectors of attack.

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@Lemming

Can you give an example of a situation in which using a semiautomatic rifle with a large magazine results in your freedom?

Preferably, one that doesn't involve a zombie apocalypse or alien invasion, you know, something realistic that you think is likely enough that you would want to buy an AR15 to be prepared?

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The situation in which America, became free,

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."

- Mao

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@Lemming

The situation in which America, became free,

That was muskets, and 250 years ago.

Why does anybody need an AR15 today?

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@Sidewalker

You 'assume forever peace, it 'seems to me.

. . .

You ever hear of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_Liberator

'Looks pretty cr*ppy to me,

But a gun is a gun,

Wikipedia also mentions morale.

How much better, if the people had 'better guns than the Liberator.

. . .

We had muskets, now we have,

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So true. There is precisely the same amount of gun violence in red areas such as Boca Raton Florida as there is in blue cities like Chicago.

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@Lemming

You 'assume forever peace, it 'seems to me.

You assume you need to be prepared to kill a large number of people, it seems to me.

But you can't seem to give an example of what you would be preparing for.

I'm sincerely curious as to why a person thinks they need that ability, are you thinking of participating in a well regulated militia perhaps?

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I think my example is clear.

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There's also 'other situations,

But you only asked 'an example of a situation,

And I need to go to sleep,

Night for now.

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But you can't seem to give an example of what you would be preparing for.

Hitler is what we all prepare for. We know the next one is coming we just can't figure out if it is from the right or the left. Either way you need a population who can out gun their governments to prevent it

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Hitler outlawed guns.

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Clearly if more Democrats had guns, Trump wouldn't dare run a second time for president.

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A transgender individual shot up a Christian school. Talk about hate crime. But wait, that term is only reserved for when African Americans get shot by white cops

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Problem is enough Americans will always be against a federal gun sweep via sting ops and even then would be against removing guns from the supposedly law abiding.

I genuinely think enough Americans are that logically incoherent they think they can defeat the military and police force in an all-out blood bath. They then justify this by defense against criminals instead of government.

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