White House issues marching orders to media outlets

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Both of these are happening. The child rate is at 1.94 right now. Anything below 2 is below replacement level.
That’s why new arrivals from other countries is so important. Because people like you aren’t able to produce.

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And yet we get crap like the Iraq debacle,
Incompetent leadership from Bush and Cheney. Don’t elect republicans.

Ukraine corruption
What are you talking about? Trump’s attempt to blackmail Ukraine?

Patriot act
Perfectly appropriate 

Covid lockdowns,
Absolutely appropriate 

unsustainable debt,
Caused by Republicans’ refusal to increase taxes and the American people’s refusal to pay for the government they demand. 

Examples: Medicare for housewives who never paid into the system. Social Security benefits that are not based on what people contribute.

planned inflation, race baiting policies based on skin color, destruction of private health insurance plans, unsustainable government regulated housing, unsustainable green energy mandates, mandatory sexualization and sterilization of children against a parent's wishes, mandatory taxes to support illegal invaders, massive crony bank and corporate bailouts, and a mandatory sketchy vax subsidizing crony corporate big Pharma.
These last complaints are more deranged than the others above. 

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Reality has a well known liberal bias
Veritably false.

Liberalism: Abortion isn't murder. It's just a collection of cells.
Reality: Life begins at conception.

Liberalism: Communism can work.
Reality: Communism has never worked everywhere it has been tried.

Liberalism: Socialized medicine is the best form of medicine.
Reality: Every country with socialized medicine has absurdly long wait times, medical supply shortages, and comparatively low pay for doctors. Oh, and their population overpays for it with absurdly high taxes.

Liberalism: Joe Biden does not have mental problems.
Reality: Joe Biden walks into trees and bushes and shakes hands with invisible people and often forgets where he is and what he is doing.

Liberalism: Hunter Biden is innocent. It's a witch hunt.
Reality: Hunter Biden was indicted twice by his father's DOJ on illegal gun charges and tax problems.

Liberalism: Trump is responsible for J6.
Reality: All of the leaders of the Oath Keepers stated to the FBI in separate questionings that President Trump was not involved in the planning, coordination, or execution of J6.

I can keep going... There's a lot that liberals believe that isn't reality.

I can also do the same thing for the right. Because reality doesn't have a bias. Both sides believe absurdly false things.
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Veritably false.

Liberalism: Abortion isn't murder. It's just a collection of cells.
Reality: Life begins at conception.

Lol. Says who? God? There is no God, genius. You have been duped. What kind of a simpleton believes in God?

Trump is responsible for J6.
That is what Mitch McConnell said

That is what Liz Cheney said

That is what Kevin McCarthy said
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Came across these videos from a few years back and thought of this thread. These are definitely good depictions of how I see the issue...

How Fox News influences media coverage of political issues:

Admit it: Republicans have broken politics


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I agree Fox News and Republicans are to blame, believe it or not.

But I also believe CNN and Democrats are to blame as well.

Both sides are deeply corrupt. Sure, there are some honest people on both sides, but overall both sides have broken politics.

But then again, during FDR and Teddy Roosevelt, one a Democrat and one a Republican, the same exact shit happened... So you could argue that the last 8 years has been more like politics as usual.
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Both sides are deeply corrupt.
You are just a cynic. If you named one person you thought was a good political leader I could find some things they did to criticize.

It’s easy to sit in the cheap seats and be a critic. What have you ever done to earn your citizenship? What has been your contribution to this country?

Your list from post 363 shows that you haven’t even fulfilled your obligation to stay informed and pay attention.

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your obligation to stay informed

This is what free thinking and having a mind of your own looks like folks. This is not right wing or left wing. This is being intellectually superior to those that pick a side and parrot what they hear on MSM. That you are free to form your own perspective without permission.
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@Public-Choice
I agree Fox News and Republicans are to blame, believe it or not.

But I also believe CNN and Democrats are to blame as well.

Both sides are deeply corrupt. Sure, there are some honest people on both sides, but overall both sides have broken politics.
That’s not blaming republicans and Fox, that’s bothsidesism, the very point I along with the video are arguing against.
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@Double_R
what's your alternative? a third option? or no options?
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This is what free thinking and having a mind of your own looks like folks. This is not right wing or left wing. This is being intellectually superior to those that pick a side and parrot what they hear on MSM. That you are free to form your own perspective without permission.
Free thinking? All he said was that we have to ask ourselves about the harm of phones and how 3 on the left vs 3 on the right is not news. Nothing about that is at all controversial or conflicts with any mainstream set of political opinions.

So what exactly is your criteria for determining that someone has a “mind of their own’? I am always amused by this insinuation, to me it's just a thought terminating cliche. There isn't an opinion out there one could espouse while sounding halfway intelligent that someone else didn't put out there first, so how exactly do you tell the difference between "I believe X because I concluded it" vs "I believe X because that's what I was told to believe"?
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what's your alternative? a third option? or no options?
What's my alternative to what?
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Liberalism: Communism can work.
Reality: Communism has never worked everywhere it has been tried.
Except in USA, Germany, Finland, Japan, North Korea, USSR, Sweden, Switzerland, Libya, France, Canada, China, Vietnam, Britain, Spain, Cuba, Italy...

well I can go on but you get the point.

Now lets see how many countries are capitalist!

How many countries have neither government regulated economy, nor redistribution of wealth, nor free/semi free healthcare, nor food stamps, nor free/semi free housing, nor free/semi free education?

Search results: 0

Oooops. Looks like capitalism doesnt even exist anywhere.

How embarassing! 

Its such a great system that no country on Earth uses it!
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Except in USA, Germany, Finland, Japan, North Korea, USSR, Sweden, Switzerland, Libya, France, Canada, China, Vietnam, Britain, Spain, Cuba, Italy...

well I can go on but you get the point
He said Communism, not Fascist socialism where the government is in bed with capitalists.
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He said Communism, not Fascist socialism
Eh, tomato, tomahto

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@Greyparrot
Isnt it funny how

All we had to do to implement Communism 

Was to stop calling it Communism and rename it to catchy words such as equal opportunity or better treatment of the poor.

It was such a stupid and simple plan that never should have worked, yet that worked so perfectly its insane to think thats all what needed to be done.

Masses only remember labels, not meanings. For example, when I ask a person if he supports Socialism or Comnunism, he will most likely say no, adding that he hates Communism.

However, when I ask him if he supports free healthcare for the poor, food for the poor, education for the poor, or housing for homeless, he will most likely say yes. Its really a huge amount of stupidity of the masses. They never learn.

Today, people are supporting Communism without even knowing it.
And the funniest part is that they think they hate Communism while supporting Communist policy "To each according to his need, from each according to his ability".
I noticed that most people are literally clueless about political ideologies or what Communism and Capitalism are.
Oh well, cant really blame them. Education system is designed to bore people into idiotic repetition, so all meaning is lost in their minds.
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Except in USA, Germany, Finland, Japan, North Korea, USSR, Sweden, Switzerland, Libya, France, Canada, China, Vietnam, Britain, Spain, Cuba, Italy
Germany's economy was not communist. It was a weird invention of Hitler.

The U.S. had its best economy under Trump (2017-2019) and Coolidge (1920s). In both of those economies there was significantly reduced and near non-existant government intervention. Welfare is the one thing that has systematically destroyed the American economy. And, yes. I can accept a debate on this topic. I am confident I will destroy anyone on the topic of government intervention and welfare destroying the American economy.

Japan just declared a state of emergency over their failing economy.

Finland is actually more economically and personally free than most of the known world.

Nirth Korea has significant starvation and medical issues and rampant disease.

Sweden's economy was about to default after just 20 years of socialism so Swedes began voting for parties that reduced welfare and government intervention, and the economy rose proportionately to the removal of socialism. Currently Sweden has a significantly more privatized system and they are still removimg government involvement year-over-year, leading to increased personal wealth for all.

Switzerland is a world bank. But even so they actually have more economic freedom than the United States and most of the known world, like Finland and Sweden.

Libya is a totalitarian hellhole. It also has a completely destroyed economy.

France is on the verge of defaulting.

Canada's economy is so bad that there's mass unemployment and mass closures of businesses.

China's also on the verge of a collapse. Plus, you know, most of that wealth is concentrated in the elites, with the standard of living absolutely horrid for most citizens compared to the rest of the known world. The "upper middle class" in China are lower-middle class to middle class at best in most of the Western world.

Vietnam's economy has been in the toilet for years. People can't afford anything there.

Britain's economy is also on track to default.

Spain's economy has been crumbling since at least 2012.

Cuba has one of the lowest standards of living in the known world.

Italy's economy just defaulted in 2020 due to too much welfare.

You really should pick up an economic report every once in a while on these countries you speak so highly about. Socialism has completely destroyed them.

Bernie Sanders caused more blatant disinformation to proliferate on socialism with one singular presidential campaign than the Soviet Union did in 40 years.
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Germany's economy was not communist. It was a weird invention of Hitler.
I meant today's Germany. All you guys can think of is Hitler. But yes, Hitler too had redistribution of wealth, since you like Hitler so much.

The U.S. had its best economy under Trump
How about another joke, dear? Trump doubled money supply in his last year as president only to screw up economy and blame it on Biden. Also, check 8 trillion debt. Thats best economy? Oh dear... Trump's economy was just different version of Communism. He printed money instead of raising taxes. He borrowed instead of raising taxes. Then he gave away free money to people, trillions of it. How is that capitalism, my dear?

Japan just declared a state of emergency over their failing economy
Japan is one of the world's largest economies dear.

Finland is actually more economically and personally free than most of the known world
In Finland, you have free housing. I guess you didnt know that, dear. Also, taxes are very high, dear.

Nirth Korea has significant starvation and medical issues and rampant disease.
If you are going to lie about a country, at least spell its name properly.

For your information, North Korea is a largest military on Earth. So very strong, yes. Also, check new North Korean drones. Good stuff.
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And, before you start talking about GDP growth as a main signal of an economy, let me remind you that such a simplistic view of an economy is precisely why nobody really understands what is going on.

An economy is more than just growth of businesses. It is also the rate of growth of inflation, the standard of living, both as compared to where it was years ago vs now, and compared to the mode or average of the global econome. It is also the employment rate as a real measure, not a guestimate based on looking at pocket of the country and extrapolating the data elsewhere using equations, or by redefining "unemployed" so the rate goes down. It also includes what is called "gainful employment," which is the ability to obtain better jobs and move up the ladder to the top. And, finally, growth in wages. All (or at minimum most) of those must be in better shape for an economy to really be growing.
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Virtually all of the countries you mentioned either have experienced stagnation in most of those categories while inflation continued to rise, thus ultimately resulting in a worse economy year-over-year, or are actually on the verge of, or have already, defsulted (Like Japan). Except for Sweden. Finland I am not so sure is in a worse economic position. I just know they are more a case for removing rather than addimg government invovement.

Oh, I forgot to include a falling cost of living as a determiner too. 
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Currently Sweden has a significantly more privatized system and they are still removimg government involvement year-over-year, leading to increased personal wealth for all.
Are you sure?

Sweden's entire population has equal access to the public health care services. The Swedish health care system is publicly funded and run by the county councils.

Free healthcare? And you call that capitalism? No dear, the free things are Communism.

Switzerland is a world bank.
Its a communist world bank, dear.

Article 12 BV reads: "Anyone who gets into trouble and is not able to take care of themselves has the right to help and care and to the means that are essential for a dignified existence".

Libya is a totalitarian hellhole.
I meant Libya under Gaddafi, obviously. It was very rich.

France is on the verge of defaulting
So is almost every country in the world. Its how economy works, dear.

Canada's economy is so bad that there's mass unemployment and mass closures of businesses.
Well, I guess when you are lying, better use little lies. These big lies really dont work for you.

China's also on the verge of a collapse
Yeah, how about another joke, dear? China is the world's largest economy, producing everything from your panties to your phone.

Vietnam's economy has been in the toilet for years. People can't afford anything there.
More lies. Vietnam is one of the world's largests producers of smartphones.

Britain's economy is also on track to default
I dont think you know what default means. Could you show us the example of capitalist economy anywhere, dear? Or am I just asking the impossible thing from you when you cannot possibly show us your capitalism anywhere?

Spain's economy has been crumbling since at least 2012
Well, I guess after 50 lies in one comment, 51st is no big deal. So according to you, every economy in the world is crumbling right now. Obviously, thats a lie since there are no any signs of any country crumbling. Maybe only in your wet dreams, but in reality, its the capitalism that has gone extinct.

Cuba has one of the lowest standards of living in the known world
Also one of the lowest pollution. I guess Communism keeps winning in every field.

Italy's economy just defaulted in 2020 due to too much welfare
And yet Italy didnt collapse? Well, now we know that defaulting is perfectly normal.

You really should pick up an economic report
Considering that you dont know what defaulting is, and that you believe how every country on Earth is collapsing except America when Trump is president, you might as well start a MAGA conspiracy club at this point and have members chant "Everyone is stupid except Trump".
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why nobody really understands what is going on.
Nobody except Trump and Fox news, apparently.

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Virtually all of the countries you mentioned either have experienced stagnation in most of those categories while inflation continued to rise, thus ultimately resulting in a worse economy year-over-year, or are actually on the verge of, or have already, defsulted (Like Japan). Except for Sweden. Finland I am not so sure is in a worse economic position. I just know they are more a case for removing rather than addimg government invovement.
Oh, I forgot to include a falling cost of living as a determiner too.
Stagnation is a natural part of the economy when population increases too quickly while resources dont keep up. Also, with covid and war in Ukraine, more resources are devoted to fighting your friend Putin.

Now, can you show us just one example of a capitalist country, or is capitalism just completely unable to compete?
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Well, the Trump administration did have the highest unemployment rate (14.8%) since 1940.
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Stagnation is a natural part of the economy
Only for socialist countries. Laissez-faire policies never lead to stagnation.
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have the highest unemployment rate (14.8%)
I said 2017-2019 on purpose... 2020 was a swift kick in the socialist direction and, presto change-o, 14.8% unemployment and a wrecked economy that then stayed stagnant for about 6 months after cratering for a year and a half. It kinda proves my point that socialism is a horrible idea.

The two previous years before that were nearly unprecedented, constant growth... unlike under socialism and its stagnation.
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Laissez-faire policies never lead to stagnation.
Laissez-faire policies dont exist anywhere. You live in unicorn land riddled by fantasy, and we are still waiting for that one example.
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The two previous years before that were nearly unprecedented, constant growth
Yeah, 5 million people lost healthcare.

Also, yes, there was a constant growth... of budget deficit!

Budget deficit in 2016: 587 billion 

Budget deficit in 2017: 665.7 billion

Budget deficit in 2018: 779 billion

Budget deficit in 2019: 984.4 billion

So yeah, apparently, lowering the taxes just increases budget deficit.

And also, its still not an example of any capitalism, since Trump did not decrease government spending by any significant amount.
He just increased government printing.

Capitalism would be either very low or no government spending, and no government regulation.

Since USA obviously still had high government spending(4 trillion a year), and increased debt by significant amount as a result of lower taxes, what we get is just some different version of Communism where instead of high taxes you fuel economy by printing or going in debt.

So yes, even before Covid, Trump started to increase budget deficit significantly. USA was still spending lots of money on welfare policies such as food stamps and healthcare. USA still had one of the largest government budgets in the world. I dont know what dictionary are you using, but none of that is even close to being laissez-faire economy. Trump helped the rich, screwed the poor by robbing them of healthcare, and kept rapidly increasing debt which backfired in 2020, but lucky for Trump he was out of office by 2021 so he didnt get full blame for his failures.
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Unemployment under Biden:

3 %

And Biden defeated Russia in just 1 year. It was the fastest defeat Russia ever experienced in its entire history.
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The two previous years before that were nearly unprecedented, constant growth
GDP grew faster during Biden than at any point during Trump.