What Would Need to Happen For The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict to Come to a Peaceful End?

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Here’s what I think should happen with my limited knowledge, when it comes to Gaza at least:

          For Starters
    1.   Change of Israeli leadership 
    2.   A Formal acknowledgment to the Palestinian population of the radicalisation Israel inflicted on them historically by assassinating political rivals and the subjugation of their people, etc
    3.   Reform some aspects of the Israeli Military
            
            Weeding out radicalisation 
      4.   Create a second boarder around Gaza and build infrastructure (though it might be prone to attack) 
      5.   Invite/incentivise companies to set up shop within it
      6.   Periodically accept Palestinians into the new area with the condition they can’t go back
     
             Integration 
      7.   Give the new area political power to negotiate with Israeli government
      8.   Create worker and student exchange programs
      9.   Meany years down the road get rid of the boarders. 

Where am I wrong? What do you think needs to happen for a peaceful resolution?
     
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Complete and unconditional surrender by hamas

Turn over their leaders 

Lay down their weapons


Mass deportations of half the population to Arab states


Move in Israelis and make it part of israel
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More crimes against humanity.

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You misspelled peace plan
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Usually, peace plans are supposed to be fair and not pro-israel pro-theft.
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You support land theft.....when it suits you
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Well stated!
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1. The destruction of Hamas.

2. An individual or group of 'exceptional Palestinians.
Lucky and skilled enough to influence their people to stop with all the terror and hate.
. . .

Though I think peace will only come after a violent of of Palestine, and the exile of it's citizens.
. . . But really, even then there will be no peace,
Not for the Palestinian exiles,
Not for Israel,
The Palestinians have not melded well into a number of Arab countries that accepted them in the past, I have heard.

As for Israel, well Hamas is used by a number of Israel's neighbors, as a catspaw, I hear.
Win or lose, Israel doesn't seem to be likely to be left alone,
An enclave of differing faith and politics, is not appreciated perhaps.
. . .

'Can Hamas achieve military victory?
I don't 'think so.

Nonviolent resistance, 'or a long wait before acting seem better options,
But perhaps victory is not the expectation or goal of Hamas.
. . .

I vaguely recall that India,
Had a number of failed military fights with Britain,
Same with China,

India though, had more luck with Gandhi,
Though not all Indians like Gandhi, I've heard.
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Nonviolent resistance, 'or a long wait before acting seem better options
Nonviolent resistance sucks, since it is very unlikely that Israel will agree to return the land it stole. Kinda like how USA didnt return USA to native Americans even after hundreds of years.

They could have done what North Korea did, the second option.

Build up so many rockets and weapons over time, millions of them, so if war starts, the other side has just zero chance of walking out alive.
However, Iran might change how this war goes. We just dont know yet how many friends does Palestine have.
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Have you given your house back to the people you stole it from?
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There go your hallucinations again.
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I accept your concession 
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Nonviolent resistance, 'if applied to the right groups, can lead to enormous benefits.
And sometimes it's all one has.

Though with some people there 'is little odds of it working.
Nazis, Klansmen, gang members.
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Lemming is right with his first message.

I'd add that if you want a solution in which they stay in the same territory, as you said they  [authorities from other countries] would need to take out Netanyahu and find someone moderate to give the position of power to [yes undemocratically]. Also it'd take substantial amount of "propaganda"(I know it's not the right word I don't have a good word for it but basically campains changing the public opinion from the Israeli and palestinians as a lot are extremist)

Anyways it's very unlikely, I'd even say nearly impossible, that a peaceful resolution could come from the Israeli-Palestinian if both stay in the same territory, even with your well-thought-out plan, as extremists on both sides hold too much power and children are growing to hate the other side as they see the atrocities a lot of people on the other side are comitting.
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Realistically speaking? A forced relocation of all Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank to neighboring Arab countries, such as Egypt and Jordan. Followed by the granting of full citizenship of Palestinian refugees in such countries. But since Egypt and Jordan wouldn't consent to this, it'd take the temporary occupation of both.

Let's consider the alternatives.

1. Palestine remains an independent country.
Gaza and West Bank have the highest population density in the world by far, and without the advanced economies to sustain this. Even if all blockades were lifted tomorrow, it's fair to expect they'd still be rather poor 50 years from now. On top of that the Palestinians have high birth rates, so the current level of misery will only compound. There's no way they wouldn't eventually get frustrated/desperate enough to storm Israel and solve their problem.
I mentioned the blockades being lifted. This probably won't happen so long as Hamas stays in power. In all likelihood Gaza will resemble hell in another generation. You would think the PLO-run West Bank will fare better, but their overcrowding problems are exacerbated by 2/3rds of a million Israeli settlers. The 2005 evacuation of Israeli settlers from Gaza involved a tiny fraction of that, so it's unlikely that the political will exists in the Israeli government to resolve this.

2. Palestine is under permanent Israeli occupation.
All or most of the aforementioned problems still apply, except that now the Palestinians are even angrier and more radical.

3. Palestine and Israel are integrated into one country.
There are 2.7 million Palestinians in the West Bank and 2.3 million in Gaza. That's 5 million, on top of 1.7 million Muslims in Israel proper and about 130,000 Arab Christians (who would also be Arab nationalists for the most part). Best case scenario, Israel's Jews just barely outnumber the Palestinians. With unequal birth rates this wouldn't be true for more than one generation. Meanwhile, akin to what we saw with whites in South Africa post-Apartheid, a cool million or two million Jews would opt to pack their bags and move abroad rather than live alongside neighbors who hate them and frequently murder them; this would only accelerate the Arab ascendancy.
I don't have to explain that belonging to a minority religion in a Muslim-majority country is bad. Israeli Jews know this and they wouldn't let it happen in the first place. If some external force tried to impose this reality upon them, they would feel they have no choice but to resort to nuclear retaliation.

4. Genocide
I'm not even going to entertain this one. Neither should you.
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The only thing that should come about to solve the conflict is total destruction of the Zionist state
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If the whole of humanity was Islamic, then the silly fu*kers would still fight each other.

Because a side effect of the clever human animal, is the stupid human animal. 

No, a complete and utter modification of human DNA is the only way to bring about a peaceful and cooperative species.


 Mr Omniscient obviously knew about all this. LOL
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Idk what schizo sh-t you’re on about, I’m just speaking facts that Israel must be destroyed. Strike a blow at Tel Aviv!
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"Israel must be destroyed" is not a fact, it's a proposition.

Destroying Israel will not change the stupid human animal, will not solve a problem and will not achieve a lasting World peace.

You are simply exhibiting a bias for one side of the two sided coin.
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I am biased to the side of Allah because Allah revealed to me that Israel is a dirty satanic Zionist abomination oppressing the great and noble Palestinian people, and thus must be destroyed. Allahu Akbar! glass Tel Aviv!
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Same old fantasy GOD...Allah is just a representative symbol or sound.

I expect that he also told the "Zionist" to bomb the fuck out of Islamic militants.

I bet that him and the angels are currently having a right laugh.

Why do you think that he programmed us with the daft gene?


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It’s pretty clear Allah has willed the destruction of the Zionist state. Strike a blow at Tel Aviv. Total Israeli Death.

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@triangle.128k
You misspelled hamas 
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Gaza is being pummeled by air strikes


Allah wills it
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Israel is the oppressor.
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I think beheading babies makes you one of the bad guys

BUT that's just me.  Lol

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Israel should stop bombing babies, stealing land.

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Palestinians should stop the terrorism of innocents
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I think that the current spat is more about the persistent Palestinian rocket displays.

But for sure Israel isn't strong on secularism, so is a tad blunt with it's ideological oppression.

Though the same could probably be said for the other lot if they got the chance.