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Blinkin, Biden's Sec of State, says now that "We gave Americans every opportunity to get out" of Afghanistan. Does he forget that just two weeks ago - Aug 16 - DOS told Americans in Afghanistan wanting to get out to "shelter in place," the same words used a year and a half ago to advise the best, then, advice to protect against Covid?
Biden, allegedly the President, promised just four days ago, to evacuate all Americans from Afghanistan.
Leadership is not a power trip. Leadership is not a privilege. Leadership is an accountability. It is an obligation to do as promised.
Joe Biden, and his team, are a total failure.
You may now wear your mask for another reason: To muffle your blind opinion that this is a capable presidency.
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@Reece101
Happens to me every time Biden tries to say something. Anything. Must be the encounter with stupidity, because Hillary Clinton seemed to cause that reaction, too. Thank God it's temporary.
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@Dr.Franklin
easy for you to say; difficult for Biden to realize and make happen.
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@ebuc
I did not say anything about an immoral path, just crooked. Not the same thing. Let's not get inventive when not necessary. Just stop with Trumpeteers; it gets old. You've probably been uttering the same thing for five years. Enough, already.
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@ebuc
1} AL Queda in Afghasnstan >> Bush invades Iraq is most unprofessional
If you mean Bush 43, did you miss the FACT that in late September, 2001, elite US forces were already in Afghanistan "looking for trouble" as a neighbor's son told me after the fact, the next spring. He was a Navy Seal medic who's team went there in response to 9/11, and could tell me no more as it was top secret. This was well before going back into Iraq as Bush 41 had done in "Desert Storm."
Because you missed that, off on the wrong foot, the rest of your diatribe continues down a crooked path.
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@Stephen
And what does god actually `say ` concerning "how our creation is supposed to be understood"?
Genesis 1, 2, 3, inclusive
John 17: 3
Romans 8: 16- 26
Just to highlight four of many passages answering your question
When did he say it?
As noted, at various times and places as noted
Who does he say it to?
To whom it is revealed, but more importantly, to all children of God.
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@ebuc
none of them have anything to do with adaptation
since when is contingency planning and execution not adaptation? Saint Darwin did not say adaptation had to be entirely biological. Why do you think we're the most adaptable of all creatures? You don't use your big toe to think.
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@drlebronski
And no one cares that you missed the point. I didn't say I worked really hard.
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@thett3
Absolutely true. Good post
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@RationalMadman
education was more free and tax-paid in the parents' generation
perhaps because those nations can no longer afford to offer free education??? None of those you mention, and most others, are as populated as the US, either.
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@ebuc
For your scenarios, some of us have contingency-planned sufficiently. Not as Biden defines contingency, btw.
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@drlebronski
Because until you die, guess who's also paying for your healthcare, at least by Obama/Biden standards?
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I am no longer in school at any level.
I have children who are no longer in school at any level.
I paid for my higher education personally, with a little help from parents & scholarship, which I earned by effort, it was not entitled. I paid my student loan debt before it was due, but at least I paid it all. I paid for most of my children's higher education, less their contribution and scholarships, also earned by effort.
I am already still paying for education K-12 and state colleges through property tax, levied at approx 62% of those taxes. My duty to society is paid and being paid.
So, why do millennials feel they are entitled to their education debt forgiveness? Leeches. Lazies. The rest of us will pay for your free education. You get what you pay for. Go ahead, justify yourselves.
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@ebuc
seemingly oncoming extinction on Earth
If we're going extinct anyway, why bother controlling anything? But that is an absurd proposal. Extinction does happen, but we happen to be about the most adaptable species on earth, so our extinction is very unlikely.
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There are controls against virtually any human activity considered illegal, yet we have filled prisons. Observe the results of attempted control. Do I advocate abolishment of law? No. I advocate common sense and law. Guns do not kill, so why control them?. That slippery slope leads to control of spoons. In the wrong hands, they can kill.
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@drlebronski
What makes you think there's no junk out there, now?
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@secularmerlin
So, when is the GND going to stop using petroleum to lubricate electric engines for cars?
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@RationalMadman
You know that the Trump deal had conditions that the Taliban started breaking before the ink was dry, just as Iran was breaking the Obama Nuke Deal, about which Obama did nothing, just as Biden has done little other than a single drone, whike giving away millions of dollars, perhaps billion s, in. equipment to the Taliban, such as drones. We get one terrorist for all that equipment. Bad deal.
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@Dr.Franklin
because that most professional army in the world in commanded by a chief who is the most unprofessional chief to ever own the title. Jimmy Cater used to be my go-to for unprofessional, but he's been eclipsed in just 7 months. If the last seven months were an Oscar-nominated screenplay adapted from a novel of fiction, it would lose the Oscar for being all too real.
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@drlebronski
And Fauxlaw is the only constitutional expert in existence? No sale
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@EtrnlVw
However, the alleged NDE experience has scientific study opposition, such as https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2014.00070/full
The former acknowledged people undergoing fMRI sensory tests, and some of those people do report feeling out of the body, however, they also report only the vague impression of being out-of-body, and that "other body," is reported as the soul or spirit, that other body is reported by the test subject as "motionless," i.e., not traveling in the out-of-body experience.
The second completely discounts the claim. of out-of-body experience as being simply a "mind trip."
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Seems to me, death is merely a door that opens into another room to explore. There are some who, by circumstance, open the door, but remain in the previous room, so their perspective is more influenced by the present room than by the next room. Only by walking through the opening is the vista beyond fully appreciated. So-called after-life experience isn't really fully after life since we're still here in body, and the mind can take on any flight of fancy it can conjure.
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I believe in heaven, hell, and pandora with its floating mountains and flying raptors.
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@RationalMadman
So it does. Oops. Well, correct, now.
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@Polytheist-Witch
And I'm saying that even Christians have difficulty with understanding that all Christians do not think the same. I'm merely expanding on your claim that only atheists and non-Christian theists believe all Christians think the same. I'm agreeing with you, Poly, I'm just expanding your scope.
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@MonkeyKing
Where control is localized, regarding education, the better and more efficient that education will be, because it will concentrate on matters important to the locality. There are many such concerns, not just education, that were specifically missing from the Constitution because the Founding Fathers did not believe Congress ought to legislate every facet of our lives. There are really only eighteen specific subjects outlined in Article I that Congress should legislate. If only they would deal with those restricted items, and let the States and local governments handle the rest, but, Congress is greedy.
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@Polytheist-Witch
You told me I have to remember about Christian beliefs, as if all believe the same things. I've demonstrated I don't believe half of what passes for Christianity because most of it requires belief in beings having no likeness to me or everybody else, yet we're supposed to be created in their image. I take God at his word about how our creation is supposed to be understood. I'm just trying keep hair-brained ideas out of the context of true religion.
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@RationalMadman
@zedvictor4
I don't know about Fauxlaw, but I was born in 1977. And I live in California, Orange County at the beach, where the zip code is 949. I don't know where Fauxlaw lives. 'Havoc' is apparently not available as a username on this site, so I added the digit prefix.
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@Polytheist-Witch
You have to remember that...
I don't have to do anything of the sort. I don't believe that, myself, and, apparently, I'm not much of a follower of the predominant crowd.
One god with three faces? Absurd
Three gods of one body? Absurd.
Three gods as three individuals. Common sense, but not many believe it. I do.
A god we euphemistically call "father," but we, his children, will not grow to become like him? Absurd, but most believe that. I do not.
Jesus, a mortal man, literally begotten by God, who is a spirit. That Jesus died and was resurrected into a new, perfect physical body many saw and touched, yet is now disembodied because his father is just a spirit? Many believe that. I do not. God, the father is a physical embodied holy man, as is Jesus Christ, and as we will ultimately be, after death and resurrection. Common sense. Not religious mumbo jumbo that is supposed to Christianity.
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@BrotherDThomas
"...but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." (2 Peter 1:21)
Your own citation admits that God, himself, did no writing. There was no desk, no chair, no writing implement, no paper, and no written words distributed from the HQ of God. God revealed - inspired, and men wrote. Have I say any different? No, and neither have you demonstrated any different by your bible-bash.
Show me one word God has written. Not revealed, not inspired to man, but himself, writing at HQ. That is not the origin of the Bible, my friend, but believe what fantasies you will. It does not, by the way, discount that the Bible does contain the word of God revealed to man, but that's all it is.
No religion having any holy writ whatsoever makes the claim that deity wrote the words. No need of big boy pants to get that concept, but then, things a child understands are often muddled by adults. It's what we do.
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@oromagi
@drlebronski
your study is only about whether political biases change results.
Not my study, and that study's result absolutely support my cSe, which is that there appears to be exactly as the study concluded:
A new study finds no serious evidence of a liberal (or conservative) bias with respect to replicability, quality or impact of research
That is precisely my point. It is you who appears swayed by an inconsequence oromagi mentioned that science is influenced by political right/left.
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@oromagi
Who declares Wiki a valid research source since they, themselves acknowledge their lack of credibility, and you know it, so what's the crowing of Wiki all about? They're no more valid than Joe Biden. Peas in a pod.
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@dfss9788
Are you adverse to doing to your own research, or is a spoon considered a valid entitlement?
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@TheUnderdog
At conception, a zygote's cells resemble a cancer cell.
At conception, the zygote contains the full, compliment of a DNA molecule contributed by mother and father, each contributing one-half of their respective full DNA molecule. That half-molecule condition of each ovum and sperm is not consistently the same half in all potentially resulting children, meaning there is still variation between children of the same parents, so, nothing like a cancer cell. The human. body is made up of approx 37T cells, none like a cancer cell - and that condition is from conception. https://www.technologynetworks.com/cancer-research/articles/cancer-cells-vs-normal-cells-307366
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@Stephen
It throws serious doubt on the claim that it was inspired and or written by a perfect all knowing god.
the claim is that it was inspired and or written by a perfect all knowing god.
Who claims the Bible had a single word written by God? You? Pardon my laugh.
What is preached from pulpits is what it is. We are left to agree or disagree by personal freedom of choice.
for every "good word" or verse you may find in the bible, there will be others that contradict it.
A claim that will require citation. You offered four examples. Is that all?
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Twelve marines were killed today in Kabul. After reading his statement response - written for him by whom? - and his moment of silence, Biden declared he was instructed to take media questions drawn from a list of journalists compiled by his instructors. Instructed by whom? Maybe the Taliban, since they seem to be calling the shotes the last few days. What, the President is incapable of taking his own advice on which journalists to call on? Better he walk away without answering questions, but that begs a question: who is instructing him to do that?
So, let's hear from apologist Democrats.
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@TheUnderdog
it expands freedom in the United States.
That begs for justification. Freedom to do what, and to whom, since my freedom ends at your nose, so to speak, and vice versa? So, what freedom would be expanded since that limitation is imposed even protecting younger people than 13 from predators.
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@TheUnderdog
A fetus's cells specialize at 6 weeks into pregnency. At that point, it's no longer unspecialized cell matter.
But, the human genome is understood well enough to determine from DNA what those cellular specializations will be, so what is so magic about 6 weeks? This stuff can be determined from conception, so there is no excuse for a delay in prevention from that point, even if specialization ought to be a factor.
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@TheUnderdog
The contradictions found in the Bible are legion. So what?
1. Most books contain contradictions, so why should the Bible be singled out for criticism?
2. And it's not as if the volume has a single one of its 66 books for which, to our knowledge, an original document [scroll].
3. Nor can it be assured that those who translated knew enough of an original language - even if #2 were not a huge issue.
4. Nor can it be assumed that biblical cultures were understood by 12th, 13th century translators, even if #2 were not a huge issue.
We're lucky the Bible is as well off in good words to live by as it is, in any modern language.
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@oromagi
The Right-wing gets its truth from church and country, the Left-wing gets its truth from consistent results.
Sorry, but I find that analysis shallow and is, itself, politically biased. Scientific American disagrees,
They find no support for your claim.
I believe your claim is entirely based on media reporting of scientific exercises, preferring to cite scientists aligning with media sensibility; not exactly an unbiased industry, itself, so why wouldn't it appear that science leans left?
Bunk.
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@oromagi
" A white flag signifies to all that an approaching negotiator is unarmed, with an intent to surrender or a desire to communicate. Persons carrying or waving a white flag are not to be fired upon, nor are they allowed to open fire."
Let's look at all of that statement:
" A white flag signifies to all that an approaching negotiator is unarmed, with an intent to surrender or a desire to communicate. Persons carrying or waving a white flag are not to be fired upon, nor are they allowed to open fire."
Do we accept all of the statement, or ignore the bolded underlined portion as an optional specific meaning of a white flag?
So, according to you, we can ignore stupid Americans? Am I missing something that I don't see that distinction as a dismissal of the fourth amendment?
So, it isn't discriminatory to ignore stupid Americans? Seems we educate today with the intent of growing that population.
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@SkepticalOne
Isn't the actual value of the equipment left behind in the U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan less the point than that it was abandoned at all when it could have easily, and should have been a strategic part of the withdrawal? Where are your priorities? As mindlessly lost as are Biden's? Oh, yeah, he had contingencies, alright. Contingency #1: Even leave American citizens behind. Some plan. A three year old would do better.
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@Stephen
Can be, not must be.
Obviously, "can be" implies a lack of consistent necessity, or it would be "must be" as I originally corrected based on what you said, yourself. But, since you also insist that I must always show evidence in forum of statements made, that's your schtick, and you're welcome to it. I happen to disagree that such is always a necessity, again, counting on "can be" as the guide. That's the open season of a public forum.
Whereas debate, which might as well be a different site, and is absolutely a different page, follows different rules of which you are obviously not adept with out of hand since you almost never engage it. Although I have not had an opportunity myself, on this site, I plan to make greater use of it than the forum.
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@RationalMadman
Civil confrontation. Doesn't have to be a war. We are talking about the NCC, are we not, promoting God's justice, peace and healing in the world, or is that just words? I don't happen to ascribe to that particular organization, but I am aware, and thought of hypocrisy never entered my head. Please don't spoil the fantasy.
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@Stephen
a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
Can be, not must be. So you acknowledge I am not compelled to respond as you insist. Yes, I understand this implicitly, and thanks, anyway, for the acknowledgement. Live by it, pls
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@Stephen
Tell you what:
You do your thing, I'll do mine. Fair enough? An open forum is exactly that: open. I don't see the forum is "Stephen's Forum," and, until it is, I suggest your keep your personal rules to yourself. Likewise, if I choose to turn a forum topic into a debate, even if it is not my thread, what policy prevents it? One of Stephen's? Nope, I did not sign-up on Stephen's DebateArt.
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@oromagi
I hope you will feel very welcome.
I do, indeed. I'm looking forward to become an active debater, and currently have two challenges registered, but the other current challenges have no interest to me, unfortunately. It appears, given the number of active debates, that challenges are frequent.
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@oromagi
I have recommended:
- auto-loss on first forfeit (to save voters time and effort)
- setting debates for a minimum number of votes before closing- 3 seems reasonable
- Make voting the price of initiating a debate: something like writing 3 votes earns you 1 debate
I support all three suggestions, however, the second may be a bit extreme. I would certainly argue for more than 1 vote, but min two votes at least offers a broader perspective than a single voting member. Three may have trouble gathering sufficient support, but what do I know as the 3-day member with no formal debate experience other than in high school some time ago.
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@Greyparrot
It continues, as demonstrated by Biden just yesterday - 8/22
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