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But I don't think you get it.
He is a pseudofascist populist gimmick.
This man is a sexual degenerate on a thurd wife with nultiple women claiming he abused them.
He is not Presbytariab anymore as his wife insisted Barron got Christened Catholic but then decided to risdiucke papacy, confirming that he likely is now not even Christian at all, neither Protestant, orthodox nor Catholic.
He is a valueless degenerate that championed the lokes ofd eadbeat 14+ kid most by ivf Elon Musk who crossdresses for fun and is mroe concerned with us pooulating Mars like animals, playing God on another planet, than he is with any Earthly issues at all except money and his brands loke Tesla that he himself bought and didn't invent and which is Indian not American, reducing likelihood that this Sohth African immigrant is patriotic even further.
On top of all this, Trump carries himself like a foul mouthed schoolyard bully trying to seem alpha male more than the Mussolini or Franco style of being actually intimidating and masculine. Hitler's screeching style also was some sort of overcompensation hut of all Fascists (Nazism is an ugly mutation of it) Hitler was the most environmentally and scientifcially oriented. Trump has next to 0 interest in environmental protections and the only science he cared about in both terms was space science (Musk was likely behind that being a term 1 decision of Trump).
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A Christian image maybe?
Never mind, Many Christian nations are avoiding Christian parades except Spain thwse days.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I am pretty sure the first Cath Church I visited was in childhood at a time I dont fully remember.
Let's say I have at least 1 parent who has ties to Christianity but never got raised into it properly myself.
I am fortunate to not be a more narowdownable convert, in terms of doxxing. There are a user or 2 here who could narrow me down a lot more if they want to be malicious though.
Anyway, I also went to a cath church when a relative I won't specify got married, that was far more down to the spouse and his/her family than him/her.
Your real question is not what you think you are asking me. You really approach religion wrong in my eyes but I am a strict/vigilant approacher, especially now.
You are talking about going to what I assume is the most renowned Cath church locally withun bus/train/car/cycling distance unless you live nearby the biggest/best one to walk there.
You want to know what I felt my first time in the Church after I converted right? I never just stepped in. I refused to do that despite tugs at me for months on at least 2 years towards this faith, prior to me converting 'officially'. Officially is in quotation marks as Catholic Catechesis wait for months before being permitted to do the full conversion. What I will tell you is that I was raised as if I were agnostic. I was discouraged to ever take religion seriously as I was told any serious fundamentalist of any faith is an extremist. Where my parents drew the line on what a 'fundamentalist' or 'extremist' is, is actually at the point of ever truly taking your faith serious as the 1 true faith and hard-dedicating in any real way other than going for dancing, singing and tradition alone.
So I will tell you what I felt when I finally mustered up the courage, precalled in, made sure what I was wearing was acceptable and eventually talked to the Priest but your question is the first time going in regardless.
I felt broken, nervous and unworthy to be there. I was fighting back tears in my first Mass which was not my first time in the Church as such, more so my second. I felt so grateful that a disgusting man like me was shown such mercy.
I have a nice enough body, I am genuinely handsome, decent IQ all of that. I had wasted it, still am maybe just less so I hope in God's eyes.
I realised what an ungrateful son i had been to my parents yet also realised what bad parents they had been and not for the reasons I used to think alone (lack of religion, not gonna specify more to avoid dishonouring).
So, the reality is I feel that. Every time. Just less.
I cannot wait until I get confirmed hopefully next Easter. I am very nervous about my lifelong preconfirmation confession. I am in a European country though and generally that means they take the seal fully serious and tend to be proper pros at it.
I may need to switch to a Church further from me just because my Church nearest, walking distance, does not exactly do confession that often or that 'officially' you practically need an appointment meaning it is often face to face. Far too few people do it so only huger churches have it more than 1 hour on a Saturday. I have been told to wait to do it until I am further into the faith closer to confirmation.
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@IlDiavolo
Mods asked you to be a moderator, not a policeman.
A moderator functions on a website as the police do irl, but with less authority once things get truly illegal and so hand over the issue to law enforcement then.
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More than what?
You can pray many ways, you can even talk directly to Holy Spirit, Jesus and Father
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Our Father is part of Rosary and is the holiest prayer of our entire religion.
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@LucyStarfire
Rosary isnt even obligatory, it just is the case that if you refuse to read Bible and are debatibng against the faith, it is defi itely good you do daily Rosary then. The mysteries make you read Bivle if yoy didn't notice, what they due is mix different verses on the same event sequences together, from different Bible books and chapters within the .
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@Sir.Lancelot
I suggest you go back to Catholicism 😅
But no way are EO closer to Judaism than SDA. EO historically had some of the highest antisemitism. Jews were treated terribly in Eastern Europe even before Christianity turned up and it did not suddenly change after.
I know what you mean, it is the beards specifically that lead to that aura. However, it is if anything more Islamic than Jewish.
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@21Pilots
God.
But there is a deep secret I must admit.
There was a time when Satan helped me. I went from dead inside and 0 hope to happy and living for the next thrill.
This ended up ruining my life and is the number one reason I am behind financially and in certain factors.
However, I feel God was with me too even then. Somehow I got this tug to be antihero instead of villain. Thank God.
If I had rushed things idk where I'd be. Sure Id have more progress probably, more kids by now idk. However, I think my gf (I probably would have not married) would resent me. I think Id be a much worse dad. I had to be mended this way, it just had to be that way.
If you want help, I tell you the Catholic Church will help. All in due time.
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Are you still praying to the Trinity and at other times to St. Mary?
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Only a disgusting religion can turn something so sick into a personal satisfaction.
Just so you know Catholics ruled out circumcision a long time ago but the problem is culturally South Americans, North Americans, Filipinos and some Africans still do it.
Even Jews that convert to Catholicism often do it to their sons and some Ex Muslims do but less commonly. Ex Muslims tend to feel a stronger 'tear away' from their prior faith AND cultural traditions. Jews that become Catholic tend to still feel Jewish and it is understandable why as all the foundations is Jewish.
They seem afraid to betray Old Covenant. Often such ex-Jews or ex-Muslims secretly avoid pork etc while saying they accept new covenant. They also will tend to avoid ever shaving a man's face.
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If you ever get a ticket and the country is safe from war, try Lebanese Maronite Catholicism. They will give you the vibe you wanted with regards to feeling very middle eastern.
Why specifically the Lebanese is they also speak some of the best English out of Maronites imo.
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Idk if you have heard of the denomination named Seventh Day Adventists but they are the closest thing there is to what you called Jewish Christianity.
They do it always on Saturday, their Mass and aim to never work on that day, whereas Sunday is normal to them and Friday is semi Sabbath towards evening.
They avoid many things Jews did and do like pork, directly shaving a man's face etc.
Idk the exact stance on circumcision. In general they are by far the most loyal Christian denomination to Judaism. Jehovah's Witnesses would argue that they are but SDA actually are.
Orthodox Clergy maybe seem that way but the general EO person is not at all like a Jew is. They eat pork, shave, celebrate Sabbath on Sunday, take Sabbath less fully serious etc.
You should try out Oriental Orthodox if you want to see what Christianity fused with Islamic 'vibe' is.
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@Savant
Problem isn't you is it?
If someone reads this and goes out and acts based on it, then what?
Should a site brainwash the vulnerable into dangerous ideas?
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Domestic terrorism propaganda and Whiteflame, Barney and David will do what?
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Well in a way maybe. One of the reasons agheists do not turn into pure nihilists or hedonists often is due to God-given morality ingrained into them.
God is the apex power figure of all reality. So, there is a link between power and morality in that sense.
God is the apex power figure of all reality. So, there is a link between power and morality in that sense.
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break ups do hurt.
I would not recommend you getting close to him. He will treat you like dirt after a few days faking liking you.
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No it is not at all power alone.
Are you and those you live with very powerful locally?
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@21Pilots
It is possible in the sense they could be dragging you down big time and you arm your enemy with info as your bond and trust them.
Fishchaser became my closest friend here and abused me the moment I chose to cut ties, he did this at least 3 times now but 2 times when he definitely was my closest friend.
It is sad.
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Morality is actually the primary reason you and I feel safe enough rn that you won't get robbed or your window smashed.
We call it legality but it is morality that drives the concept of it all being obeyed willingly.
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@zedvictor4
I am not sure we agree here.
You value money over security and morality.
I find it interesting how 2 variants of right wing outlook are actually direct enemies of each other (libertarian vs conservative)
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@zedvictor4
How is this a consequence of some US states legalising weed?
Is there a link?
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@Castin
If you refuse to identify as Christian, you either are not a Christian or have to fesr severe persecutio for not only yourself but others close to you.
Unlike Muslims and many other faiths where you get clauses allowing masking adherence in order to blend in, Christianity bans that outright but also encourages modesty (bling bling big crosses whike wearing slutty outfits as women or tank tops/shirtless as men are some protestant nonsense made up far later).
If you are Christian and get beaten, killed even, you will go to Heaven. However this does not justify suicide. Let us not go into suicide.
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@Castin
Bsh1 isn't better than WF.
Bsh1 was only good because of David as 'vice' being the actual leader that held down rules and decorum.
WF and David would never ever have worked as a duo, David is closer to my style of moderating even if he denies it, than he is to WF's.
He genuinely is on denial rn, I have a feeling it is because he feels a kinship to Barney in one way and to WF as a fellow Jew in another way.
This is not a comment on race, it is a comment on psychology and kinship. David is a Conservative Jew. He definitely has a kinship vibe with Barney and WF for differing reasons that bias him a lot to avoid arguing against them even when he blatantly agrees with me. I saw this in the mod chat, he acted in my favour or asked Barney to, rather than ever once addressing WF if he felt WF would get annoyed.
There is major bias right now clouding him. He actually is not nearly as liberal as WF in any sense, I know this.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I think it is a third option.
1 is impossible because he actually helped finalise cutting me out in order to backup whiteflame. That is a guaranteed wrong interpretation.
2 is unlikely. There is something I won't disclose. Just know it is psychiatric.
He can forget things easily at times. It is genuine, I am sure of that.
The reason this is important to disclose is I am very sure Barney was naive in 2 different ways here. He really thought my approach and Whiteflame's could work together.
He is incompetent maybe but he is not malicious.
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Wylted has no place on that list.
I will deserve who I think is the true GOAT. I see things a bit differently now. I am a contender for it.
Your list overly glorifies selctive debaters that sit timid waiting for perfect pouncing opportunities on easier sides of topics. I have even been that at times and partly always will be especially as I now even theologically feel uneasy being devil's advocate on some topics (not all, Catholics invente the term DA, it is ok to be it just not on all topics especially direclty against our Lord etc).
You know what is funny btw, Fishchaser has actually improved a lot from his type1 days but he went from one of the worst debaters to just good. So if we rated improvement over time here, he probably is the number 1.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Now you see it, soon the devil will attack you again.
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@Barney
Buddy, you are weak against loud members and you deeply resent that I am not.
I say that with respect as you can do better.
You say serve, not rule. Yet police are irl moderators and they serve by enforcing rules for the sake of law and order.
Where you all went wrong is you forgot both. Meanwhile you focus 100% on law in your minds and not on order itself.
You will never ever tame this userbase unless you come down on them as a force to be reckoned with. I promise you that. I can play nice mod later, not at first.
I know exactly how to deal with different personality types here differently. Some need the instant ban to tame them, others need care, tenderness and to see I will enforce both for their protection and against their wrongdoing.
If you had not backstabbed me and instead rolled with me, let David be in charge and humbled Whiteflame, you would not see what I presume is Wylted on his racist blackface womanface alt right now openly abusing rules on multiple levels.
If you seriously want law and order here, you do not send in a wimp. Period.
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@Barney
You've likely seen moderation get behind, and that is with a much better ratio than 1 to 100. The problem is this is a debate site, so active users like to argue.
Sure, that is why. It has nothing to do with the mods. (Major sarcasm)
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@Greyparrot
@WyIted
So what is the best way to handle the situation?
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@WyIted
Wylted do you realise how corrupt Mexico leadership actually is?
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@WyIted
Machiavelli, if he intended that, was terrible at writing.
His guide book is more geared towards a dirt poor peasant trying to climb up at any cost by any means that does not care about being loathed and seen as evil for how he does it, as opposed to a Royal that wants a good legacy as a great leader.
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@WyIted
Do you admit that is a clash between Christian love for all and Fascist 'throw them back into the fire' border policies?
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@MayCaesar
Hell works in isolation.
This idea of it being all demons and sinners together in a community is a hoax from pagan or certain protestant ideas.
It is isolation, you writhe in agony as you feel completely alone.
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@WyIted
Okay now I see it with the word six not number 6.
And do you think that is drug related?
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@WyIted
It says that nowhere in the document, it says they have no true idea what the number or percent is.
Furthermore that specifically is people who go on a fast track smuggle into Mexico and then into US.
It seems Mexican officials and criminal gangs are the worst offenders of abuse against them.
Is your stance that this proves they bring in drugs or do you admit you just gaslit and goalpost moved entirely?
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@Greyparrot
It could be seen as authoritarianism but it is not Fascism.
Again, this buzzword is being used totally wrong.
People using the word Fascism how you are, would call most communist regimes fascist.
This is right wing dunce usage of terminology. Now, another issue is that Fascists have taken on the term far right willingly. They actually not far right at all, they are very middle with strong taxagio , tariffs and environmental protections in mind. In fact environmental laws in Western Europe were heavily pioneered by Hitler believe it or not.
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@Greyparrot
What exactly would this global ethnicity be?
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@Greyparrot
globalist fascism.
This buzzword is used to mean any authoritarianism at all.
Fascism has actual tenets that make globalism impossible to coincide with it.
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@Greyparrot
You cannot be a globalist fascist.
It is impossible to be heavily nationalistic and ethnocentric and also globalist.
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@ebuc
No, you have simply assumed that. Space definitely can be created.
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Not really, idk what I am
Fascism would make you betray your religion or values if the nation's religion and your family wanted otherwise. Ultimately it fails due to that.
It puts national prowess above ALL other morals. This ends up corrupting.
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@Greyparrot
Democracy is why America has such open borders. Maybe you now see the clash Fascism has with democracy. It is incidental rather than direct.
Fascism requires the State Government to maintain absokute authority so as to protect against stupidity of the masses.
Antifa would actually end up with the same, it would be Marxist instead.
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@Greyparrot
The problem is people say Fascism is only tyrannical because it did arise that way.
The reality is Fascistic ideals are actually set in stone whereas the term Conservative means keeping things steady as they are or how they used to be.
A Conservative Muslim has a very different idea of the endgame to a Conservative Dane and Conservative Peruvian alike.
In contrast, while Fascism differs also based on ethnic outlook and culture, the principles are set in stone so to speak:
- Nothing comes before the nation's wellbeing.
- All are servants of the state.
- If the nation is united in ethnic background, then ethnicity must be a focus too. However, if it has been a melting pot for long enough, the focus becomes keeping the mix as it is (Spain's Falangism is an example of mixed race supremacy happening and this concept even was already there in Latin America, they believed mixing towards caramel skin amd brown hair to be optimal as it unites under the mixed race which was the only tenable ethnicity to unite under).
- Military focus
- Strong border control
- Caring very, very little for any wars or drama abroad unless it is super severe or affects the fascist nation's security.
- Nuclear Family seen as ideal but for Islamofascism that alters to be multiple wives.
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@MayCaesar
Hell awaits all those that reject him.
Do you want to be saved?
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@21Pilots
Yoy definitely haven't seen it. He deserved 1 week ban minimum. WF and Barney capitulated to crybabies such as Mharman himself and Mikal.
It happened in the Forum Games section and the entire thread has been wiped.
Mharman is significantly racist too btw. He masks it. It came out with his N word usage in that thread as a man that claims he is white.
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@WyIted
Link the Amnesty International data please, so I can see where they draw the line and confirm the stat.
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