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Pasting my reply from elsewhere:
One thing to remember is until David buys this from Mike, Whiteflame is also a 'leashed dog' of Mike. I am merely offering to be the new one.
It really boils down to ownership, time and money.
I have time. I lack the other 2.
Respect for character is a whole different thing. You say you respect Whiteflame. That is okay.
In the past 2 days I tried to help RemyBrown learn a pattern/algorithm to begin fine-tuning his off-the-wall hate speech threads and make them actual debates that are not direct hate speech or loaded clickbait. I also, in private, helped BK/Sungod user realise he wastes a lot of time here and to spend some time off to find God. That is a huge factor I am sure in why he self-requested being banned. I also stopped a rampant voting troll who voted against you 5 times over that WF was very close to unban voting and I pushed to extend the ban past 1 or 2 days. I lastly asked that mature adults playing a forum game on our website adhere to the rules of the website and common human decency.
All the way, you claimed to have my back. You blatantly lied constantly idk if it was to yourself or only others.
It is sad/cringe to watch.
I am here to make a difference and be a force of good. I could not care less who gets annoyed by that.
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One thing to remember is until David buys this from Mike, Whiteflame is also a 'leashed dog' of Mike. I am merely offering to be the new one.
It really boils down to ownership, time and money.
I have time. I lack the other 2.
Respect for character is a whole different thing. You say you respect Whiteflame. That is okay.
In the past 2 days I tried to help RemyBrown learn a pattern/algorithm to begin fine-tuning his off-the-wall hate speech threads and make them actual debates that are not direct hate speech or loaded clickbait. I also, in private, helped BK/Sungod user realise he wastes a lot of time here and to spend some time off to find God. That is a huge factor I am sure in why he self-requested being banned. I also stopped a rampant voting troll who voted against you 5 times over that WF was very close to unban voting and I pushed to extend the ban past 1 or 2 days. I lastly asked that mature adults playing a forum game on our website adhere to the rules of the website and common human decency.
All the way, you claimed to have my back. You blatantly lied constantly idk if it was to yourself or only others.
It is sad/cringe to watch.
I am here to make a difference and be a force of good. I could not care less who gets annoyed by that.
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You think you are embarassing me.
What you actually did was show your character and also proved that Discord chat server only as private as its weakest link. You.
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I respect you so much, I am with you aaalll the way.
Boooo Adol we are a united group against you I am so happy for adatpable he is chosen by God so good, I love and admire his mission.
*2 days later... Spongebob scene*
Lowly henchman, dog on a leash blablablabla waaa aaa waaaa
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Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done,
on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Good to see you have gained some self control at least.
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@Sir.Lancelot
And you are an underling that forgot your place.
This statement concedes that you are a hypocritical sycophant and faked respect the entire time btw. The 'and' means you consider that true as much as what you said after the 'and'.
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@Sir.Lancelot
We are all underlings of God. I know this and try to never forget it.
You can say whatever you want, I am happy the real you is showing. Honesty is needed very badly here.
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@Sir.Lancelot
The exact way you talk to me right now would be banned on the site model of justice that you said you wanted to ADOL.
You are a hypocrite and a sycophant.
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@Sir.Lancelot
No you didn't. You respected my position, not me. You tried to maintain the lie over DMs. You even posted this publicly to fake respect for me.
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@Barney
He may say he does. Yet, every single step of the way he has stood back, let others abuse me and backed me up on absolutely 0. He almost undermined my sole action so far as removing someone's voting privileges as soon as he could.
He does not respect me, nor agree with me on anything fundamental about moderation. This is a slave to the masses leading a team that is meant to clamp down with a ban hammer on bad behaviour regardless of popularity of said member. He is so far from what a mod needs to be.
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@Sir.Lancelot
:)
It is okay. I knew you publicly stating it would lead to the real you showing.
Now never ever pretend you support me again. Thank you.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Wylted wishes he was like this, given his recent image choice it is obvious. I actually am closer to it:
You want fun? Put Wylted and Whiteflame in charge together.
You want justice?
Well.
That is not the same.
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@WyIted
Airmax enabled popular bullies and most of the site was a popularity contest even how he modded votes.
I agree that he was right to punish some, including me but he was severely biased.
Honesty was not his motive, popularity and being 'one of the group' was. WF seems to suffer from a similar affliction but MORE severely.
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@zedvictor4
I said you can say it but don't ever ask me to betray God and entertain it.
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@zedvictor4
I refuse to entertain such blasphemy. You can say it but I refuse to debate back. Approach Saints Mary and Joseph with respect or don't debate it with me.
You blasphemed Jesus too and that matters more but you were mor severe on J and M his earth parents.
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@Swagnarok
This is probably the single worst replacement idea ever suggested on the site so far.
This is a dark web concept and you will be sucked into a community of degenerates.
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@RemyBrown
There are many African Catholics btw. There are probably more Christian than Muslim Africans emigrating to the West.
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@RemyBrown
Mentally, you act even younger than 14 if I can ve blunt to you.
You remind me of a child at that age where they say whatever and 0 consequence. You present to me as if you are stuck there, mentally.
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Why would you think Whiteflame would step in and defend your craziness? Did he say that in discord or are you assuming?
To you it is craziness. To me, it is not.
I am meant to be a mod. He treats me like I am not at all a mod and this is because David and Barney wanted me promoted, not him.
We need a proper coup to make this work. Mike has to enable it.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I want work with people who agree with me on moderation and morality. Loyalty is a secondary issue.
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@zedvictor4
You are not being replied to if you blaspheme that severely.
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There is no manipulation from me.
SL likely is manipulative as he has always been sycophantic to mods here.
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@Sir.Lancelot
No, it is not.
I have seen enough to know this is accurate.
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This even sounds like a terrorist movement given some things said later.
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@DebateArt.com
This site is 13+ and all can see this thread even if below 13 browsing.
Wylted is encouraging users to leave your site for a dark web equivalent of it where pedophiles and many depraved people can freely anonymously say whatever they want.
Think please. Legally and morally is this intelligent to allow?
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@WyIted
What I did here is akin to what you did as president to IWRA.
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Wylted, the way you wanted IWRA modded and to make him use sources to back his OPs up, I tried with RemyBrown.
The only reason I got abused and ridiculed for it is that Whiteflame and Barney sit back and allow it. David is in a sticky situation because he is ranked beneath both.
You want honest debate, so do I. I can make it happen, your approach never ever did.
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@WyIted
Yes, it is amazing how far gone humanity is that they would be shocked by needing to abide by rules.
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Now let us see the result of WF moderation in what ensues.
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Sure, the CoC means something to me but you and I actually see 'eye to eye' on something ADOL; if the rules are corrupt, the rules ought to be changed.
Others may be most severely opposed to you but in my eyes you have been more rule abiding in how you have spoken during this than some others have.
You did ridicule the mentally unwell and try to degrade me for a condition you believe I have but you have been more honest in your discourse and more accepting of my promotion being real than others.
Others are treating me like dirt and WF sits by and watches. I will remember who was more or less respectful and recognised me. All will be noted.
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There literally are African Catholic immigrants.
There also are Catholic cops.
Controlling your tongue/speech to avoid offending others is a fantastic life skill to gain actually. If you do not do it, you mentally are stuck at age 14ish maturity for life really.
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@Sidewalker
No I did not. I said I am serving him. That does not make me a direct Apostle.
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@n8nrgim
Brother in Christ, they will keep doubting you even if you showed 400 of these.
I respect the ethos and aim, I just have seen that this strategy only helps believers believe more it doesn't win over non Christians much at all.
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Just want to say, idc the site politics, for now I am a mod of some sort officially.
In this capacity I want to explain a fundamental issue with a thread like this in how it is presented within a debate website.
The 'other side' is either forced to take defending a violent hate crime or is somehow because of your wording, meant to support Sharia style lashings to the point the punished may die and definitely will have long term bodily damage.
In other words, I am confused at why you force such dichotomies in your hateful debate threads.
It is also site bannable for anyone to defend the crime here. So what is the debate? Is it the lashings?
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@RemyBrown
Sort of. There are direct culture clashes between NT Christianity and OT Judaism.
The reality is this, we are made by God. We owe everything to him. Do you want a God who helps the monsters be destroyed or a God who solely forgives ALL equally and instantly regardless of works and devotion to the cause of Good?
The Father of the 3 is more the one holding the stick for enforcement and also who made us all. Son and HS serve different roles than the Father.
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@RemyBrown
Is this thread about Catholic Culture or the scripture?
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@RemyBrown
So idk about other sects but we do not just live to avoid Hell. We are driven to be loved by God and love God back. It is a caring King and servant dynamic more than sheer Master and slave dynamic.
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@fauxlaw
Not sure about the exact meaning of the Palestine reference but I agree that liberty as a singular goal is strange.
If we let everyone to be fully free it means thugs take over.
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@Greyparrot
I won't pretend some of morality is just logical and survivalist. However, that does not fully explain it.
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@yachilviveyachali
I am Thomist on free will and grace, not Augustinian.
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@zedvictor4
He already did, as Jesus and bow remains as the white dove Holy Spirit (of course he doesnt stay stuck in dove form, it is complicated)
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@yachilviveyachali
There are multiple false gods. This is not about me.
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@David
@Barney
@whiteflame
This thread has served its purpose, please lock it.
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@zedvictor4
At least you somehow found meaning. Nihilism is the philosophical 'spring-board' that leads to hedonism. Many atheists have a brutal phase of being nihilistic and transition out of it to hedonism.
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@zedvictor4
Atheism leading to nihilism
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You described it so beautifully that I give your post an upvote.
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