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@Lemming
Yes, when one's battery goes low, I can use the other. Tho I want to test the power of new phone by seeing if it can play high demanding games. It can play Dead Effect 2 on max settings. I was about to try Genshin impact, but that game is like 20gb minimum download, with my slow internet, that takes whole day to download š
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Uh finally got a new phone after finding one with such good price, it was too good to be true.
Xiaomi Redmi Note 14 4G
I never had Xiaomi phone before, but this was the only popular brand which had android, while also being cheap enough.
I wanted to get samsung, but when I compared specifications, samsung A26 was worse for higher price.
I also found iphone 12 for like 200$, but aint no way I am buying that. As an android user, I know what it means to have play store with 4 million apps. This is why Iphone and Huawei is a no no.
So I only had option between Xiaomi and Samsung, but then I found in online store this Xiaomi with like 100$ less than what it costs normally. I had to buy it.
No regrets, phone works. 108 megapixel camera is something, I guess. I dont know what AI camera even is, but apparently has that too.
But the best part is 8gb RAM with 256 GB memory.
God, thats a lot of memory. My previous phone had like 2 gb ram and 32 gb memory, and that disappears fast once you install about 50 to 80 apps.
I am very happy. I wanted to wait until my old phone dies, but my old phone just keeps working fine, so I couldnt wait anymore, plus I know life is about making the most out of every day, and I feel limited with my old phone because I am constantly uninstalling apps to free up memory, which is horrible. Also, my old phone is slow and sometimes exists apps on its own, which is terrible when I am in the middle of writing something. So I would say having one phone for 6 years is enough, tho this old phone will probably last another 5 years, I dont really see it breaking down any time soon, because I have some strange gift that phones I have always last a long time because I dont overcharge and keep battery 20% to 80% always. Also, I have never dropped a phone in my life.
Xiaomi Redmi Note 14 4G
I never had Xiaomi phone before, but this was the only popular brand which had android, while also being cheap enough.
I wanted to get samsung, but when I compared specifications, samsung A26 was worse for higher price.
I also found iphone 12 for like 200$, but aint no way I am buying that. As an android user, I know what it means to have play store with 4 million apps. This is why Iphone and Huawei is a no no.
So I only had option between Xiaomi and Samsung, but then I found in online store this Xiaomi with like 100$ less than what it costs normally. I had to buy it.
No regrets, phone works. 108 megapixel camera is something, I guess. I dont know what AI camera even is, but apparently has that too.
But the best part is 8gb RAM with 256 GB memory.
God, thats a lot of memory. My previous phone had like 2 gb ram and 32 gb memory, and that disappears fast once you install about 50 to 80 apps.
I am very happy. I wanted to wait until my old phone dies, but my old phone just keeps working fine, so I couldnt wait anymore, plus I know life is about making the most out of every day, and I feel limited with my old phone because I am constantly uninstalling apps to free up memory, which is horrible. Also, my old phone is slow and sometimes exists apps on its own, which is terrible when I am in the middle of writing something. So I would say having one phone for 6 years is enough, tho this old phone will probably last another 5 years, I dont really see it breaking down any time soon, because I have some strange gift that phones I have always last a long time because I dont overcharge and keep battery 20% to 80% always. Also, I have never dropped a phone in my life.
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I ordered Xiaomi Redmi Note 14 4G. Will I regret it, or will it be the best possible phone I could afford š¤
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@Mall
Debate craft lets images, also age of consent debates are no longer banned/deleted as voted in coc survey
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@IlDiavolo
Well, yeah, but site empty š
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@whiteflame
Hmm I hoped there will be some anarchy here now just to test how anarchy works online and is it better as long as spam bots dont kill site.
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@David
@whiteflame
Are you guys still going to moderate this site?
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@sadolite
All you who use the site for free should pony up the three dollars per month to use it
Well, I agree, 3 dollars from 30 users would probably cover domain cost which is 50$ I assume.
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OāMarra also found a lot of good in the accused, noting his above-average IQ
If age of consent is 16, going after 15 year olds is literally retarded.
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Age of consent in Canada is 16.
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"Yes, a website is typically shut down during the grace period after a domain expires.Ā While a grace period is offered by registrars to allow for renewal at the standard price, the domain is generally not functional during this time.Ā Visitors to the website will likely see a parked page or an error message indicating the domain has expired.Ā Additionally, email services associated with the domain will also stop working."
Okay, so 1 to 2 days more for this site to live, I guess, unless this site uses some different kind of contract than usual.
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"When a domain name expires, the associated website and email services are typically taken offline shortly after,Ā usually within a few days.Ā Most registrars offer a grace period, typically around 30 days, where the domain can be renewed at the regular price.Ā If not renewed within the grace period, the domain enters a redemption period, usually another 30 days, where it can still be renewed, but at a higher cost.Ā If not renewed in either period, the domain is eventually deleted and becomes available for anyone to register."
So we could still have few days, or maybe a month if demand for domains isnt high. I dont know if site will be alive during grace period or just domain being still available to buy at same price.
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@MayCaesar
Here isĀ some other AI defeating your claim. Can you guess which AI is it?
While it may seem that hard work, determination, and personal choices account for success or failure in life, it is essential to recognize that luck indeed plays a significant role, particularly concerning one's birthplace. The argument against the notion that luck is irrelevant can be constructed by examining several key factors that reveal the impossibility of eliminating luck from the equation.
Firstly, the circumstances surrounding an individual's birth are largely beyond their control. The geographical, social, and economic conditions of a country dictate the available resources, opportunities, and systemic structures that can either support or hinder personal development. For instance, a child born in a wealthy, developed nation is likely to have access to quality education, healthcare, and social services, while a child born in a poor country may lack these essential resources. Arguably, the disparity in life outcomes due to birthplace cannot be solely attributed to the individual's effort or choices but highlights the role of chance in determining oneās starting point in life.
Moreover, consider the concept of systemic inequities that are entrenched in various societies. These include historical injustices, colonial legacies, and economic policies that disproportionately affect individuals based on their geographic location. Such conditions are often inherited, meaning that no amount of personal determination can entirely overcome the barriers created by these systemic issues. For someone born into poverty in a struggling nation, the odds are stacked against them from birth, reinforcing the idea that luck ā in this case, the randomness of being born into a particular set of circumstances ā cannot be disregarded.
Additionally, let's examine the concept of opportunity. Opportunities for education, employment, and social mobility often arise in environments that are nurtured by strong infrastructures, stable economies, and supportive governance. For example, individuals in wealthier nations may encounter numerous chances to pursue higher education, engage in meaningful careers, and develop networks that facilitate success. Conversely, in poorer countries, such opportunities may be sparse or rife with obstacles, again pointing to luck as a significant determinant of life's trajectory.
Furthermore, consider the role of external factors, such as natural disasters, political instability, and economic downturns, which are often beyond individual control. These unpredictable events can dramatically alter the course of a person's life, particularly in poorer countries where resilience may be lower due to a lack of resources or safety nets. In these scenarios, the randomness of external circumstances further underscores how luck influences life outcomes, making it impossible to claim that individual effort alone determines success.
Lastly, one cannot ignore the psychological and emotional impacts of being born into poverty. The stress and trauma associated with economic hardship can impede personal motivation and well-being, leading to psychological barriers that may hinder an individualās capacity to seize opportunities when they arise. This situation illustrates how luck, defined as the circumstances and challenges one is born into, plays a determining role in shaping an individualās potential for success.
In conclusion, it is clear that asserting that luck plays no role in determining an individual's life outcomes is untenable. The intertwining of birth circumstances, systemic inequities, formal opportunities, external factors, and personal well-being demonstrates that luck is an unavoidable component of life experiences. By acknowledging the profound influence of chance in shaping oneās beginnings, we open the door to a more compassionate understanding of the varied paths individuals traverse in their quest for success.
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@Lemming
I 'would have thought they'd had tried to monetize the site in 'some way
There used to be ads on debate art, but they removed them. The main problem is that for 200$, you need to provide about 2000 views on a quality site, and this site has like 30 users. So I am guessing site has no ads because it costs to put those ads, and they wont make much money because it takes a lot of time for 30 users to give 2000 views to one ad, assuming same repeating views even count.
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I had this theory that owner actually has a secret alt on this site, because otherwise his real account is almost never active and then he just seems to be paying for site he never uses.
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@Lemming
Personally, I'll actually be 'more surprised if DART shuts down, than if it doesn't.
This site was doomed to die eventually. I am actually surprised that owner even kept it alive so far, given that he gains nothing from it.
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@Mharman
NIGGER
You said "nigger". Now this site must be banned in Germany for hate speech.
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The election was clearly rigged, you could place Hitler next to RM, and Hitler would win the election.
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@Mharman
I voted for Wylted in the 2022 site elections
It wasnt a real election. The only other choice was RM.
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@Mharman
Screw you Allah!
You dont screw Allah. Allah screws you!
Everyone hates poor Allah š£
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I have something to admit too. On my Tik Tok account, I got a message from a guy who claimed to be member of illuminati and asked for 666,000 dollars from me so I can join illuminati.
Thats totally not a scam and I am glad illuminati have finally noticed me.
Notice me senpai!!!!
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@MayCaesar
I am an expert in machine learning theory
Thats a strange unproved thing to claim, when you make logical fallacies all the time and cant even beat my chat bot in a debate.
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@MayCaesar
Of course, you dont have access to my chat bot because its private and uses logic other chat bots dont even have access to. I dont have interest in sharing my chat bot because educating you doesnt even benefit me outside this little fun so far, so your education will probably remain limited, which is good given that you might be Russian spy.
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@MayCaesar
I just had my Chat bot educate you a bit. You can get educated more by copy pasting each of your claims one by one and asking ChatGPT, Grok or Perplexity on why it might be wrong. Of course, your skills using AI are probably bad, and you dont seem to know what premise is either, so I dont have much hope.
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I like how all the cute emotions come up only when its the end of the world.
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@WyIted
You are quite talented
You know that I hate compliments. Either bully me either go away.
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@MayCaesar
Here, I had AI explain to you why your claim is stupid, your welcome:
To effectively defeat the claim that "poor people with food, house and internet access live better than richest kings 200 years ago," you can employ several debate tactics, primarily focusing on definitions, hidden assumptions, and comparative analysis of "living better".
Here are some strategies based on the provided sources:
- Challenge the Definition of "Live Better":
- Define "better": The core of this claim hinges on the subjective term "live better". You should immediately ask your opponent to define what "better" means in this context. Does it refer to:
- Comfort and luxury? Kings had custom-made clothing, lavish feasts, grand palaces, and countless servants. A poor person, even with a house and food, likely has basic comforts, not luxury and bespoke service.
- Health and longevity? While modern medicine is superior overall, a king 200 years ago had access to the best medical care available at the time, often with dedicated physicians, which would have been far more personalised and attentive than what a "poor person" today might receive.
- Power and influence? Kings held absolute political, economic, and social power over their subjects and vast territories. A "poor person" today has minimal individual power or influence.
- Freedom and autonomy? Kings had immense control over their own lives and decisions, limited only by their will or the threat of rebellion. A "poor person" is often subject to economic constraints, employment demands, and societal pressures.
- Security and stability? While kings faced threats like assassination, they lived in fortified palaces with private armies, a level of security far beyond that of a "poor person".
- Comfort and luxury? Kings had custom-made clothing, lavish feasts, grand palaces, and countless servants. A poor person, even with a house and food, likely has basic comforts, not luxury and bespoke service.
- Expose Incomplete Definitions: Argue that the opponent's definition of "better" is incomplete if it only focuses on technological access (internet) without considering power, luxury, personal service, or control over resources.
- Expose Hidden Assumptions and Premises:
- The claim relies on the hidden assumption that technological access (internet) inherently outweighs all other aspects of a king's life, such as their absolute power, immense wealth, personal luxury, and the constant service of others.
- You can argue that the claim assumes "poor people" implies only the stated benefits (food, house, internet) and disregards other potential difficulties they face, such as economic insecurity, lack of social mobility, or mental health challenges, which were not typically experienced by the "richest kings" of the past.
- Ask for proof for these underlying assumptions.
- The claim relies on the hidden assumption that technological access (internet) inherently outweighs all other aspects of a king's life, such as their absolute power, immense wealth, personal luxury, and the constant service of others.
- Use Comparative Weighing and Counter-Examples:
- Contrast Specific Aspects: Present specific counter-examples to show how the king's life was superior in many aspects, even if lacking modern technology. For instance, compare a king's private chef preparing elaborate meals with a "poor person's" basic food, or a king's vast estates and hunting grounds with a "poor person's" standard house.
- "More" or "Less" Arguments: Argue that while internet provides access to information and entertainment, the quality, scale, and exclusivity of a king's resources (e.g., live performances, personal libraries, tailored experiences) were incomparable.
- Least Extreme Opposite Position: Instead of outright denying the value of internet access, concede that it provides some benefits, but then argue that the overall quality of life, accounting for all factors, does not necessarily make a poor person's life "better" than a king's. You might say, "While internet access offers unprecedented access to information, it doesn't equate to the vast power, personal service, and material wealth enjoyed by the richest kings 200 years ago."
- Resource Allocation: Use the "resources better used elsewhere" argument to highlight how a king's resources were dedicated to their personal comfort and power, unlike the limited resources of a poor person.
- Contrast Specific Aspects: Present specific counter-examples to show how the king's life was superior in many aspects, even if lacking modern technology. For instance, compare a king's private chef preparing elaborate meals with a "poor person's" basic food, or a king's vast estates and hunting grounds with a "poor person's" standard house.
- Negate the Opponent's Premises and Logic:
- Identify Claims and Negate: Break down your opponent's argument (e.g., "Internet provides information, therefore life is better"). Then negate one or more claims within their argument. For example, "access to information via the internet does not automatically translate to a 'better' life if fundamental needs like security, power, and luxury are lacking."
- Contradiction: Look for contradictions in their claims. If they argue "better" means access to all knowledge, but then ignore the king's vast curated libraries and access to scholars, point out this inconsistency.
- "A doesn't negate B": Point out that the existence of food, house, and internet for a poor person today doesn't negate the superior luxury, power, and status held by a king 200 years ago.
- Identify Claims and Negate: Break down your opponent's argument (e.g., "Internet provides information, therefore life is better"). Then negate one or more claims within their argument. For example, "access to information via the internet does not automatically translate to a 'better' life if fundamental needs like security, power, and luxury are lacking."
By systematically challenging the opponent's definitions, exposing their assumptions, providing strong comparative counter-examples, and negating their underlying premises, you can effectively defeat this claim. Remember to save your best counter-arguments for the last round if debating.
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@MayCaesar
Wherever you live now, you enjoy better living conditions than the richest kings did 200 years ago
I dont think thats even close to truth, but then again, Russians were never good debaters, as that isnt even the topic. Here, I merely explained why I wont work for 400$, and anyone who agrees to that is the very reason wage is so low.
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@MayCaesar
I dont think you know what luck means. Being born in shithole country isnt a choice. So that is clearly unlucky.
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@MayCaesar
You called Russia a "shithole", but I grew up there
It is objectively shithole. Bad people make bad countries.
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@MayCaesar
Of course, I wasnt born in a decent country or decent family. Some people were. Thats called being unlucky.
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@Skipper_Sr
I wish I was born 100 years later. I will miss out on all the good sex robots.
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@Skipper_Sr
I believe everything you say, and I hope Hades doesn't go easy on you.
Hades kidnapped Goddess Persephone (Kora) and took her to underworld where he raped her. I dont think he is the best judge of character.
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While known for his numerous affairs with women, Zeus also had a well-known relationship with the Trojan prince Ganymede, who became his cupbearer on Mount Olympus.Ā
Apollo:
Apollo, the god of the sun and music, is often seen as a patron of same-sex love, with Hyacinthus being his most famous male lover.Ā He was also invoked to bless homosexual unionsĀ according to Wikipedia.Ā
Hercules:
The hero Hercules, known for his strength, was also known for his male lovers.Ā His relationship with Iolaus, his nephew, is particularly prominent.Ā
Achilles and Patroclus:
The legendary warrior Achilles and his companion Patroclus are often depicted as lovers in Greek mythology, with their relationship being one of the most famous examples of male love.Ā
Hermes:
The messenger god Hermes is also associated with same-sex relationships, and his son, Hermaphroditus, with the nymph Salmacis, symbolizes the merging of male and female forms.Ā
Dionysus:
The god of wine and revelry, Dionysus, is sometimes portrayed with male lovers and is also associated with themes of bisexuality and transcendence of sexuality.Ā
Aphrodite:
While Aphrodite is primarily known as the goddess of love and beauty, her association with the Erotes (like Eros, Himeros, and Pothos) also connects her to homoerotic themes.Ā
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@Skipper_Sr
I believe everything you say, and I hope Hades doesn't go easy on you.
Not sure why you use Greek mythology specifically, given all the homosexuality and rape in ancient Greece by Gods themselves (Zeus was mass rapist, Cupid was gay).
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@WyIted
Well he is an admitted pedophile is we are talking of the user
I am also satanist, christian, pray rosary, do fire magic, have chicken farm along with gold buisness and tree farm, have 100 disorders, virgin, praising kim jong un... at some point, you guys should probably stop believing everything I say.
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@Skipper_Sr
So if Allah raped him Allah would be a pedophile
That is incorrect.
To defeat the claim that "Allah is a pedophile", you can employ several debate tactics from the sources, primarily by focusing on definitions, exposing hidden assumptions, and challenging the logical structure of the claim.
Here are strategies drawing on the sources, with clarification when external information is used:
1. Define Key TermsĀ
A foundational strategy in debate is to define each word in the topic. Debating without clear definitions is likened to playing chess without knowing the rules, and failing to define key terms can lead to an "auto loss".
Define "Allah": You should ask for, or present, a comprehensive definition of "Allah". External Information: In mainstream Islamic theology, Allah (God) is defined as the one, unique, and absolute Creator and Sustainer of the universe. Allah is understood to be transcendent, beyond human comprehension, and entirely free from human attributes, desires, or flaws. Concepts like a physical body, gender, or sexual desires are considered inapplicable to Allah. This understanding establishes Allah as a being of perfection, justice, and purity. By this theological definition, the notion of Allah having attributes or actions associated with human imperfections, such as "pedophilia", is inherently contradictory. Define "Pedophile": You must also ensure the term "pedophile" is clearly defined. External Information: A pedophile is typically defined as an adult who has a sexual attraction to or engages in sexual acts with children. This definition implies human or anthropomorphic characteristics, including sexual desire and the capacity for physical acts, which, by theological definition, are not attributed to Allah. Negate by Definition: Once definitions are established, you can argue that the claim "Allah is a pedophile" is false by definition (anti-tautology). If the agreed definition of "Allah" precludes human attributes and sexual desire, and the definition of "pedophile" requires these, then the two terms are logically incompatible. This makes the topic a tautology, meaning it is true by necessity or logical form, or false by necessity. 2. Expose Hidden Assumptions and PremisesĀ
The claim likely rests on unstated premises or assumptions that must be true for the conclusion to follow. Your strategy would be to expose these assumptions.
Identify the Base Claim and Link Claim: Any argument is usually made from two claims and a conclusion: a base claim and a claim that links the base claim to the conclusion. External Information and Hidden Premises: The accusation "Allah is a pedophile" often arises from criticisms related to the marriage of Prophet Muhammad to Aisha. The hidden premise is often that "Allah's character is directly and exclusively defined by the actions of His Prophet, interpreted through contemporary moral standards." You would challenge this link claim. Even if one wishes to critique historical events concerning a prophet (a separate discussion), this does not automatically mean that the theological definition of Allah changes, or that Allah is a "pedophile". The opponent would need to prove this linking claim is true. Challenge Hidden Assumptions: Ask for proof of claims that must be true for the argument to hold. For example: The assumption that Allah possesses a body, gender, or human sexual desires. The assumption that specific interpretations of religious texts or historical events are the sole or correct understanding of Allah's nature. The assumption that applying modern social standards (e.g., regarding age of consent) anachronistically to historical figures and then transferring that judgment to a divine being is logically valid. These are often unprovable or undisprovable claims which must be proved or disproved for the premise to be true. You can argue that the claim "depends on no assumption" while the "opposite argument is impossible and depends on assumption". 3. Negate by Contradiction and Logical ImpossibilityĀ
A powerful counter-argument is to show that the opponent's premise or conclusion leads to a contradiction.
Expose Inconsistency: If the opponent's definition of "Allah" (or implied definition) contradicts the widely accepted theological definition, or if their definition of "pedophile" requires attributes that Allah, by definition, does not possess, then you can show logical inconsistency. Proposition is Impossible: Argue that the proposition "Allah is a pedophile" is impossible because "it leads to a contradiction with established facts" (i.e., established theological definitions of Allah). True Argument Form: A "true argument" is one where all opposite premises are impossible. By proving the theological definition of Allah, you can make it logically impossible for Him to be a "pedophile." 4. Require Proof and Verify ClaimsĀ
Demand that the opponent provide evidence for their statements.
Ask for Proof for Every Premise: Challenge the opponent to "prove all premises". This forces them to articulate the specific claims and the logical links they are relying on. Google/AI Verification: If the opponent makes any factual claims (e.g., regarding specific verses or historical events), you can use tools like Google or AI to check their correctness. 5. Strategic Communication and Argument Construction Socrates Argument: You can avoid stating your own position explicitly and just attack the opponent's. This makes you "less vulnerable". Least Extreme Opposite Position: While "Allah is not a pedophile" is a direct negation, the principle of taking the "least extreme opposite position" can be applied if there are nuances to the opponent's argument. For example, you might argue that the opponent's specific interpretation is flawed, rather than conceding that their entire premise has any validity. Generally, "less extreme positions are easiest to defend". "Greatest School of Thought": This approach involves producing the greatest number of different variations of counter-arguments and then selecting the best ones. This means brainstorming all possible ways to attack the opponent's definitions, assumptions, and logical links, and then choosing the most effective ones. Focus on Your Arguments First: Prioritise presenting your arguments (e.g., about Allah's nature and the inapplicability of human flaws) rather than primarily attacking the opponent's, though a balanced approach is often ideal . Use Facts, Not Goalposts: Aim to present "undisprovable facts" instead of "goalposts which need to be proved". For instance, the theological definition of Allah in Islam can be presented as a fact within that religious framework.Ā
By systematically applying these strategies, you can highlight the logical and definitional flaws in the claim, making it difficult for the opponent to sustain their argument.
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@Skipper_Sr
Hey, it's your implication buddy
In average neighborhood of 50 people, there are at least 3 potential rapists, but Allah is not one of them. Allah is not rapist. Anyone who says so is islamophobic, gay and deplorable.
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@zedvictor4
How dare you claim Allah is male.Ā
Allah is trans and gay.
"The provided sources, which comprise excerpts on debate tactics, logical argumentation, and a school of thought based on variations and natural selection, do not contain any direct information regarding religious figures, deities, or the concept of Allah's gender. Therefore, to address your query directly, I will draw upon general theological understanding (information not from the given sources) and then demonstrate how the debate methodologies outlined in the provided texts could be applied to disprove the claim.
To effectively disprove the claim that Allah is male, one can employ several debate tactics from the sources, primarily focusing on definitions, hidden assumptions, contradictions, and the necessity of proof.
Here's how to approach disproving the claim that Allah is male, applying principles from the sources:
- 1. Emphasise and Control Definitions:
- The sources repeatedly stress the crucial role of defining every word in the topic. Failing to define key terms can lead to an "auto loss".
- Information not from the given sources: In Islamic theology, Allah (God) is understood to be unique, transcendent, and incomparable to creation. Islamic texts and theological consensus assert that Allah has no partners, no offspring, and is beyond human attributes, including gender, physical form, or any biological characteristics. The concept of Tawhid (Oneness of God) means Allah is absolutely singular, and assigning gender would imply a biological nature or a need for a counterpart, which contradicts this fundamental principle.
- Application using debate tactics:
- One would challenge the definition of "male" as applied to the divine. If "male" is defined in a human, biological context, then by Islamic theological definition, Allah cannot be "male".
- This creates a situation where the claim "Allah is male" is negated by definition. The sources note that a proper definition has the "power to negate countless arguments".
- The claim would be false by anti-tautology, as the definition of Allah (being without gender) would exclude the concept of "male". An equation where "A =/= A" (e.g., Allah, by definition, is not gendered, yet is claimed to be male, creating a contradiction) results in a lack of equality.
- One would challenge the definition of "male" as applied to the divine. If "male" is defined in a human, biological context, then by Islamic theological definition, Allah cannot be "male".
- The sources repeatedly stress the crucial role of defining every word in the topic. Failing to define key terms can lead to an "auto loss".
- 2. Expose Hidden Assumptions and Contradictions:
- Arguments often rely on "hidden premises" or "hidden assumptions" that are unstated but must be true for the argument to hold. Identifying these is a "perfect counter-argument".
- Application using debate tactics:
- The claim "Allah is male" depends on unprovable and undisprovable hidden assumptions that:
- Divine beings can be accurately described using human-derived gender categories.
- "Male" is a concept universally applicable beyond biological or human contexts.
- Divine beings can be accurately described using human-derived gender categories.
- By exposing these assumptions, one shows that the argument for Allah being male is unproved.
- Furthermore, if the accepted theological definition of Allah asserts His transcendence from gender, then the claim "Allah is male" creates a direct contradiction. The sources advocate showing where an opponent's "goalpost leads" to expose "self negating goalpost", and this claim leads to a contradiction with fundamental Islamic theological principles.
- Arguments often rely on "hidden premises" or "hidden assumptions" that are unstated but must be true for the argument to hold. Identifying these is a "perfect counter-argument".
- 3. Demand Proof for Premises:
- A core strategy is to ask for proof for every premise or to assert that a premise is "unproved".
- Application using debate tactics:
- One would directly ask the person making the claim: "Can you prove that Allah has a gender?" or "How do you know Allah is male?" .
- According to the sources, an argument is considered strong when its opposite premises are impossible. In this case, the opposite premise, "Allah is not male," is theologically asserted and supportable, making the claim "Allah is male" unprovable within its own theological framework.
- One would directly ask the person making the claim: "Can you prove that Allah has a gender?" or "How do you know Allah is male?" .
- A core strategy is to ask for proof for every premise or to assert that a premise is "unproved".
By systematically applying these debate tactics, particularly by establishing and defending the theological definition of Allah as transcendent and non-gendered, one can logically dismantle the claim that Allah is male, exposing its reliance on inappropriate assumptions and internal contradictions."
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@FLRW
OMG, I thought those were balls!
No, thats Allah's name.
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@Skipper_Sr
Because Allah could be the rapist that lives next door
And waits for "the opening"?
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@MayCaesar
Well, duh! Not everyone is lucky.
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@MayCaesar
Not really, I can still complain.
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@thett3
If the opponent fails to define Allah, it leaves a "huge opening" for me.
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@cristo71
Thats just Allah's name in Arabic. If it looks like big breasts, thats probably unfortunate mistake.
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