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@ethang5
Bones, DeeDee sees you dying and is throwing you a inner tube. Lol.
Funny, coming from the person who's constantly yalping for tradesecret.
No, you're the one who actively searched the forums to see if I gave you some attentionYou approached me first begging me to debate you
Already refuted.
Already refuted.Lol. Luckily the board keeps a record. The post you first addressed me...
Tell me where I denied that I first made contact with you. I'll wait.
Goodness getting agitated. The DDO ethang coming out.Wait. More is coming.
Really? I'm glad I'm not Indian, or you would be criticizing that dearly.
And yet you're running away from the "stupid guy"So thinks the stupid guy.
Nothing worse than someone who's so stupid that he has to run from an intellectual battle with the "stupid" guy.
And yet you only reply to the banter, and never the substantive.Because I don't want to debate you and I find you a trollish idiot.
I think it's because you know you're a troll and that you're bad at debating.
Because you you know you will lose.Does it matter when you stupidly think you win debates that have not occurred?
Prove me wrong then. Exactly you can't.
Chihuahua?Well, I know Chihuahuas can't read, so none are likely to be insulted by the comparison.
Well then if I can't read, this should be the easiest debate of your life.
...many people care about my words. Can't say the same for you.How many mom's do you have?
One more than you.
The only thing your burning is your public image.My image is not the one following me around begging for attention.
My image is not the one nipping at a fellow member, throwing ad hominems whilst openly admitting that they couldn't win in a debate.
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@ethang5
No, you're the one who actively searched the forums to see if I gave you some attentionYou approached me first begging me to debate you
Already refuted.
Your range of vocabulary is shocking.
I know you pick and choose what you are capable of replying to...I still don't care for your illustrations. You are an idiot.
Goodness getting agitated. The DDO ethang coming out.
And yet you're running away from the "stupid guy"So thinks the stupid guy.
Well, clearly you are the stupid by your own standard as you are the one running, not me.
And yet you only reply to the banter, and never the substantive.Because I don't want to debate you and I find you a trollish idiot.
Because you you know you will lose.
...you're the one who actively came back to this week old post...What, there is a time limit on your turd posts? I have a life shemp. If you don't want to wait, then @ me when you make a post to me.
The more you call me an idiot, the more I challenge you to a debate. Simple as that.End of story? Yet several pages later, you're still at my heels like a pet Chihuahua.
Chihuahua? If anything, you're the little puppy, coming back wishing hopefully that I replied.
Wow, I didn't know you cared so much about what I said, to the point where you'll go searching for my words!I do care.
I know, many people care about my words. Can't say the same for you.
Thanks pal.And you thought I was joking when I said I liked trolls and militant idiots.
No I'm not laughing at the joke, I'm laughing at the fact that you think you're making jokes.
You like what you are then.Birds of a feather, shemp.
Ok boomer.
The only thing your burning is your public image.My image is not the one following me around begging for attention.
My image is not the one nipping at a fellow member, throwing ad hominems whilst openly admitting that they couldn't win in a debate.
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@ethang5
I bet you were salivating when you realised I have you attention.You tried to run by not @ting me, but you came looking for me, and now you have me.
I never demanded you to debate me.No, you begged me.
Already refuted.
Your range of vocabulary is shocking.
You are like a...No one cares what I am like to you doofus.
No one cares about you full stop.
No one cares about you...Except the idiot following me around begging me to notice him. (Corrected for ya)
No, you're the one who actively searched the forums to see if I gave you some attention.
I will illustrate the situation like this.I don't care
I know you pick and choose what you are capable of replying to, somethings are just too difficult for you.
So you're the guy who's running from the stupid guy because he thinks he'll lose?I don't know what the stupid guy thinks. I doubt the stupid guy even thinks.
And yet you're running away from the "stupid guy".
No, but acknowledging when you've been debunked willOk. Whenever I'm debunked, I'll acknowledge it and be as mature as you.
That's the thing you won't, because you never acknowledged my post which debunked your BS.
Well how would you know...I can see your laughable posts.
And yet you only reply to the banter, and never the substantive.
I don't need to debate you to know that I'm a better debater than you.Then why are you still following me around begging for a debate?
No actually I was fine to leave, you're the one who actively came back to this week old post to see if anything could arouse your interest.
I stated in my very second post to you "Do you want to debate or are you just going to talk your talk?".And I told you no.
Exactly. You made a claim. I told you to back it up. You said no. End of story.
Wow, I didn't know you cared so much about what I said, to the point where you'll go searching for my words!I do care.
Thanks pal.
I told you pages ago that I like trolls and militant idiots.
You like what you are then.
I'm enjoying burning you very much.
The only thing your burning is your public image.
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@ethang5
Look whos come crawling out of the gutter! I bet you were salivating when you realised I have you attention.
When you've beaten the troll and he wants to quit but is too ashamed to, he doesn't @ you in his reply hoping you "miss" his post.
I never demanded you to debate me.No, you begged me.
Already refuted.
Your range of vocabulary is shocking.
You are like a...No one cares what I am like to you doofus.
No one cares about you full stop.
So you're likening me to a retard. Same thing.You would get it if you weren't a retard.
So now you're the guy who's scared to debate the retard?
There is a difference between running from a debate and running form the forums. You have done the first. You are pretty close to doing the second.That must be why you "forgot" to @ me this time, I was about to run. Lol!
I will keep asking you to debate as long as you continue to throw your poor insults.But you will "forget" to @ me. You will face your stupidity bonsey.
I will say it again, your insults only highlight how immature you are.What did your insults to my mother highlight about you?
What does calling me a retard and running from the opportunity to debate highlight about you?
So that makes you the guy cowardly running away from the stupid guy?To the stupid guy, yes.
So you're the guy who's running from the stupid guy because he thinks he'll lose?
I would tell you to mature,...Would telling child rape jokes like you be maturity?
No, but acknowledging when you've been debunked will.
I will illustrate the situation like this.I don't care
I know you don't you're a troll who isn't here for serious conversation.
Of course, I know you have an allergy to facts.Your illustrations are now facts? It's no wonder you're confused.
Well how would you know, you didn't even reply to my "illustration".
It didn't happen because you realised "damn this is a situation in which non sequitars are punished, better head out"At least now you admit the debate didn't happen. So what was the vote on?
I don't need to debate you to know that I'm a better debater than you.
No trust me, any sane person reading this will think "wow Bones has made his intentions of wanting a civil conversation clear, but Ethang just doesn't seem up to it".Was your "forgetting" to @ me one of the ways you intended to make clear you wanted a civil conversation?
No,I stated in my very second post to you "Do you want to debate or are you just going to talk your talk?". Also, if you want keep this "forgetting to @ you", then explain why you did it here, here and here. Lol!
When you realize no one cares, not even me,
Which is why you, without getting @, actively went back into this week cold forum just to see ifI replied. Wow, I didn't know you cared so much about what I said, to the point where you'll go searching for my words!
I will be here for you shemp.
Sorry the word shemp went out of fashion in the 90s.
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@EtrnlVw
Look I usually don't like going back and forth in forums, do you want to debate the existence of God?
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@DeadFire27
The rule is stupid, it is clear that you are wise beyond your years, and that you have been a positive contribution to this cite. There are plenty of people who are above the age limit, and yet have made a fraction of the contribution that you have. Nevertheless, you've been a good debater and more importantly a good friend here. I eagerly await your return.
I received an DM from Ragnar stating how the max age limit for this site is 13
On a small note, minimum age, not max age.
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@EtrnlVw
Reducing God to an absurdity doesn't help your case any.
No, I am actually giving a very serious answer and telling the complete truth. The reason I say "my no is as certain as the no which I give to people asking me whether there are invisible naked men dancing my room right now" is because neither is actually a no, it is a dunno leaning drastically towards a no. By nature of the impossibility of proving negatives, I can never prove that there isn't a God, just like how I cannot prove there aren't invisible naked men dancing in my room right now.
That's what many of you snobby atheists don't seem to understand, the concept of a Creator God is not an absurd proposition.
It seems pretty absurd to me, but I wasn't trying to reflect that through the comparison. You can use the "Russels teapot" analogy if you wish.
I mean, you basically have two options...either God exists or God doesn't. Those who correlate the products of the universe with intelligence have just as much reason in the game as you do. So don't insult my intelligence.
Not only that, but brilliant thinkers and philosophers have considered the concept well worth theorizing and debating for a very long time.
Once upon a time the geocentric model was considered a concept worth theorising and debating about. However, times have changed. If you go attend a cosmology conferences, there’s a lot of talk about the origin and nature of the universe; there is no talk about what role God might have played in bringing the universe about. It is not an idea that is taken seriously. Furthermore, there’s a recent survey that asked philosophers thirty big questions. It is common knowledge that philosophers don’t agree on anything, but there are three questions had a great amount of agreement: external reality exists, science tells us something about that external reality, and God does not exist. These are the ideas, out of every single philosophical idea there is, that philosophers are in general agreement on.
So I don't know if you care, from what I've seen probably not but it makes you appear very small minded making comments like this.
I do care, if there is an all loving guy out there you best believe I want to know about him, but from what I can tell, no such wishful idea exists.
Perhaps go back and read the OP and see if you can comment on what I asked you to. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you may not be that stupid, but if this is all you got you probably should have not commented at all.
No I didn't read the post, I just felt like I wanted express my atheism. But if you want some reasoning, I'll give you a little brain teaser.
- The Occam's Razor, also known as the law of parsimony states that “plurality should not be posited without necessity”. The principle deems a theory most likely if it has the least ontological commitments when compared with other theories. The principle can also be expressed as “entities are not to be multiplied beyond necessity” . Thus, my application of Occam's Razor can be framed by theism versus metaphysical naturalism. Whilst Metaphysical naturalism has only two ontological commitments (the physical universe and the laws that govern it), Theism has three commitments (the physical universe, the laws that govern it and a divine being).
- Hence, the theory of which God is not necessary is, according to the law of parsimony, more likely.
This ones small, I just want to test how sharp you are before I go all out.
But do me a favor if you decide to give some intelligent reasoning why God cannot exist, don't respond with a bunch of strawmen and atheist-bashing-the-Bible junk before you even know my beliefs and what this topic has asked.
The bible contradictions and shenanigans with certain individuals is just me having fun and trolling. I can be articulate if I want.
I want you to to simply evaluate your own method of reasoning why a Creator cannot exist, or does not exist, so this has nothing to do with religion at the moment.
I think my reasoning is pretty good.
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@RationalMadman
After having a debate with havoc, I have to say their syntax's and debate style are pretty much the same.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Exactly, I don't but Occams Razor deems it reasonable to discard it as an ontological burden.
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My no is as certain as the no which I give to people asking me whether there are invisible naked men dancing my room right now.
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Is this your way of admitting that you have been debunked and wishing that I go away?That is my way of telling you that you're an idiot for demanding I do your will.
I never demanded you to debate me. I am simply giving you an opportunity to spare yourself from embarrassment.
I can leave you alone if that is what you wish.Remember, I don't tire or get frustrated. I'm here for you.
I know, this is all you have. Of course you don't tire, you have no real commitment waiting for you, you simply sit on your computer, refreshing your browser every minute hoping someone gave you attention.
No, it is to call me "flat out stupid".Then it's no wonder you keep asking. You aren't seeing me tell you "no" over and over
Like I said. You are like a 2nd grader annoying a college student, and proclaiming that you are smarter than him. The college student challenges you to a competition. You decline and continue to call the college student an idiot. The college student hears your insult and challenges you to a challenge. You decline and call him an idiot again. The college student then challenges him again, as the 2nd grader seems adamant in making what are clearly false statements. Ad infinitum. I will keep asking you to debate as long as you continue to throw your poor insults.
What does that make you then?The man running from the incompetent stupid guy who spells like a fourth grade. :)
Sure. You're the guy who got so scared he had to hide from the incompetent stupid guy. Goodness.
So now you're likening me to a retard, are you?No, I'm likening beating you to taking candy from a retard.
So you're likening me to a retard. Same thing.
Because you're an expert in winning debates.No. Because you're simp.
Went on the urban dictionary did you?
It's just funny that to see a guy who's simultaneously aggressive yet useless in actual debate.So you keep being a public idiot because you find it funny?
Nope. It's just funny that to see a guy who's simultaneously aggressive yet useless in actual debate. You should put your reading glasses on.
I am well aware what no means.If this was true you would have understood and moved on like a normal person. But you're an idiot troll. Luckily for you, you stumbled into a troll whisperer.
Nope. There is a difference between running from a debate and running form the forums. You have done the first. You are pretty close to doing the second.
The more you call me an idiot, the more I challenge you to a debate. Simple as that.Ok. Challenge away idiot.
I can almost imagine how cool you think you are. Unfortunately, as illustrated, our interaction is like what follows. You are like a 2nd grader annoying a college student, and proclaiming that you are smarter than him. The college student challenges you to a competition. You decline and continue to call the college student an idiot. The college student hears your insult and challenges you to a challenge. You decline and call him an idiot again. The college student then challenges him again, as the 2nd grader seems adamant in making what are clearly false statements. Ad infinitum. I will keep asking you to debate as long as you continue to throw your poor insults.
I will say it again, your insults only highlight how immature you are.
So that makes you the guy cowardly running away from the stupid guy?To the stupid guy, yes.
Yikes that doesn't look to good on your CV. The guy running from "idiot".
The fact remains that you are contradicting yourself. You say I am stupid. You say I am an idiot. You clearly do not like me. You accuse me of being a cripple. And yet, when challenged to prove these accusations, you run and hide.You are being illogical, but you won't see that till you're out of high school.
I would tell you to mature, but if you grew up anymore you wouldn't be alive.
I will illustrate the situation like this.I don't care.
Of course, I know you have an allergy to facts.
No you can't spell, as is evident with this vote.The "vote" on the debate that didn't happen?
It didn't happen because you realised "damn this is a situation in which non sequitars are punished, better head out".
I'm not sure, but what I do know is that my senses are telling me that I am communicating with a cowardAnd when you realize no one cares, not even me, you will stop stupidly repeating it. Till then, I will toss you for the idiot you are. It will be fun, you'll see.
No trust me, any sane person reading this will think "wow Bones has made his intentions of wanting a civil conversation clear, but Ethang just doesn't seem up to it".
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@ethang5
I don't need to debate you to know that I'm better than you...And yet you follow me around begging.
Already refuted.
Your range of vocabulary is shocking.
If you've won moron, take your win and go find your life.
Is this your way of admitting that you have been debunked and wishing that I go away? I can leave you alone if that is what you wish.
Yes.. You are hiding from a debate, but you continuously reply in the forums.When I reply, is it to tell you "no" though you claim to know what no means?
No, it is to call me "flat out stupid".
Doesn't matter who it is, but you are running from them nonetheless.It certainly matters if you're spelling like a fourth grade, or a fourth grader.
Well in that case, you're running from the incompetent stupid guy who spells like a fourth grader. What does that make you then?
Ethang is a horney sex pest.Lol. This is like taking candy from a retard.
So now you're likening me to a retard, are you?
You're the one who keeps coming back for more attention.And instead of attention, you're offering debate?
Yes.
How many "NOs" will it take before your claim that you know what no means, kicks in?
I completely understand your cowardness. It's just funny that to see a guy who's simultaneously aggressive yet useless in actual debate.
I'm not the one dodging and hiding from a debate.No, you're the idiot claiming someone who declines one of your insipid topics is scared and hiding. We know who you are
So now I'm an idiot? But yes, you are the guy who claims I am stupid, yet when invited to prove the veracity of this claim, goes into hiding. You are a true circus act.
You obviously have the time for this forum business, so why not really test your talk?I keep telling and you stupidly keep asking. Debating you would be like wrestling a cripple.
Should be easy for you then.
There would be nothing redeeming about such a win.
Because you're an expert in winning debates.
Ask again and you'll get the same answer, Mr. I know what "no" means.
I am well aware what no means. The fact remains that you are contradicting yourself. You say I am stupid. You say I am an idiot. You clearly do not like me. You accuse me of being a cripple. And yet, when challenged to prove these accusations, you run and hide. The more you call me an idiot, the more I challenge you to a debate. Simple as that.
Okay you flat out called me stupid then.You aren't crippled, but you are stupid.
So that makes you the guy cowardly running away from the stupid guy?
Nope, you're like a little puppy nipping at my shoes, and when turn around to push you away, you squirm and run.Your multiple "invites" to debate after I've said no are you "pushing me away"? Lol.
I will illustrate the situation like this. You are like a 2nd grader annoying a college student, and proclaiming that you are smarter than him. The college student challenges you to a competition. You decline and continue to call the college student an idiot. The college student hears your insult and challenges you to a challenge. You decline and call him an idiot again. The college student then challenges him again, as the 2nd grader seems adamant in making what are clearly false statements. Ad infinitum.
You may not be a loony liberal dingbat, but you certainly lack IQ and EQ.Yet I can spell. Weird huh?
No you can't spell, as is evident with this vote. How much can we trust our senses? I'm not sure, but what I do know is that my senses are telling me that I am communicating with a coward.
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@ethang5
Check my profile.No need to. Observe.See? You didn't even to debate me to "win". Did you crown yourself too?
I don't need to debate you to know that I'm better than you, just like how an olympic runner doesn't need to rate a cripple to know that he is faster.
Yes. This shouldn't be much of a surprise.Your claim that you're a "better debater" is right here. You "won" without actually debating! Neat huh? Incredibly stupid, but neat.
I don't need to debate you to know that I'm better than you, just like how an olympic runner doesn't need to rate a cripple to know that he is faster.
You are hiding from a debate, I didn't say you were hiding in the forums. Pay attention next timeSo I'm "hiding" from a debate but continuously replying the doofus whose debate I'm supposed be hiding from? Lol.
Yes.. You are hiding from a debate, but you continuously reply in the forums.
And guess who's running away from the third grader?Are you sure it's not a third grade?
Doesn't matter who it is, but you are running from them nonetheless.
Why do you always bring sex into everything?Later, you will swear that "aroused" had nothing to with sex...Check.
Ethang is a horney sex pest.
Check.
You likened me to a "stupid cripple".I likened debating you to wrestling a cripple. I just flat out called you stupid.Grow up. No means no.
Sure, I'm not the shameful one.
I am well aware what no means.If you did, you would not be continuously demeaning yourself by asking over and over again.
Unfortunately, you do not understand simple communication. I have long accept your cowardness, but am simply giving you a chance to backup your relentless talk.
You, however, do not seem to be aware how embarrassing you are beingOh, I know you're being embarrassed.
I'm not the one dodging and hiding from a debate.
I'm waiting for when your embarrassment finally gets past your low esteem.
I'm waiting for you to realise the fact that only a coward would continuously "provoke" a fellow member and yet run from a change to actually debate.
...you are using your accusation that I am a cripple...I did not call you a cripple.
Okay you flat out called me stupid then.
You're the one who keeps coming back for more attention.And instead of attention, you're offering debate? Lol.
Yes. Let us end this BS back and forth and actually see who is more well reasoned. You obviously have the time for this forum business, so why not really test your talk?
In reality, you keep coming back like a stranded puppy.You're begging a stranded puppy to notice you. Pathetic.
Nope, you're like a little puppy nipping at my shoes, and when turn around to push you away, you squirm and run.
Goodness my cringe for you is overwhelming. How can anyone, let alone a "mature" old man act like a little child and feel no remorse?Easy, I'm not a loony liberal dingbat.
You may not be a loony liberal dingbat, but you certainly lack IQ and EQ.
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@ethang5
I've taken part in many debates, why do you ask?Because you stupidly think you've won debates that have not happened.
Check my profile.
Yet you keep coming back to the "stupid unpleasant" person attention?Am I bad at hiding and you always find me, or am I coming back? Should I quote you?
You are hiding from a debate, I didn't say you were hiding in the forums. Pay attention next time.
Ah I see so you read it, found out that you had been debunked however still wanted a cheap shot at me so decided to ignore the post.Lol. Your imaginary life is entertaining.
Well this is what your view entitles.
Yeah, you won't debate someone who allegedly spells like a 4th grade.How does a fourth grade spell?
I don't know, but you're posts are looking pretty similar to that level.
I don't know, read through some of your posts if you want to find out.Or we could just read your comment above. Personally I think you spell like a third grade. Lol!
Lol! And guess who's running away from the third grader? Lol!
Why do you always bring sex into everything?Later, you will swear that "aroused" had nothing to with sex and you were just joking. I must be a prophet.
Why do you always bring sex into everything?
Arouse
- 1: to stir to action or strong response;
- 2: to stimulate to action or to bodily readiness for activity : EXCITE a book that has aroused debate
Goodness you really are a sex pest aren't you. Have you really never heard of the saying "that aroused my interest".
Ethang5: You're a crippleI never called you a cripple.
You likened me to a "stupid cripple".
Bones: Okay debate meEthang5: NoGrow up. No means no.
I am well aware what no means. You, however, do not seem to be aware how embarrassing you are being.
Bones: Then prove it to meEthang5: NoWhy would a cripple need proof of being a cripple?
Circular reasoning because you are using your accusation that I am a cripple to justify your belief that I am a cripple. This is exactly the kind of jargon which will be stamped out in a debate situation.
I don't continuously repeat statements like a broken clock.You sure?Debateme!Please Debate me!You have to debate me!Why don't you debate me?You're a coward if you don't debate me!Debate meeeeee!
You must be at a new low to have to quote yourself imitating me as an insult. Tell me exactly where I said the words "Please debate meeeeeeeee".
Would you like to debate me...Lol.Then why are you the one stalking me begging to get noticed?
You're the one who keeps coming back for more attention.
Why are you the one who keeps coming back like a stray kitten?So you aren't finding me like you said? Were you lying or just deluded?
No you are the one who accused me of finding you. In reality, you keep coming back like a stranded puppy.
Screaming in second hand cringe for you.Flex up your vocal cords then, you're going to be screaming in pain for me a lot.
Goodness my cringe for you is overwhelming. How can anyone, let alone a "mature" old man act like a little child and feel no remorse?
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@ethang5
Unfortunately for you, I have won a debate, though I wouldn't go as far as saying that I deserve a crown.Was it a debate you actually took part in?
I've taken part in many debates, why do you ask?
Do you often dodge and hide?From stupid, unpleasant people, yes.
Yet you keep coming back to the "stupid unpleasant" person attention?
How would you know, you didn't read it?I read it. That is how I know.
Ah I see so you read it, found out that you had been debunked however still wanted a cheap shot at me so decided to ignore the post.
Yes?How does a fourth grade spell?
I don't know, read through some of your posts if you want to find out.
I know you're getting aroused from the attention, this must be a foreign feeling for youLater, you will swear that "aroused" had nothing to with sex and you were just joking.
Why do you always bring sex into everything?
Arouse
- 1: to stir to action or strong response;
- 2: to stimulate to action or to bodily readiness for activity : EXCITE a book that has aroused debate
Goodness you really are a sex pest aren't you. Have you really never heard of the saying "that aroused my interest".
I mean, you're who's constantly complaining about Ragnar...But not about my banning being unjust. You just added that in because you're dense.
You're ban was just okay sex pest?
No they're not because I don't continuously repeat statements like a broken clock.Debate me!Please Debate me!You have to debate me!Why don't you debate me?You're a coward if you don't debate me!Debate meeeeee!
No, more accurealty;
Ethang5: You're a cripple
Bones: Okay debate me
Ethang5: No
Bones: Why not
Ethang5: Because you're a cripple
Bones: Okay if I'm a cripple debating me will be an easy win for you
Ethang5: You're a cripple.
Bones: Then prove it to me
Ethang5: No
Bones: Why
Ethang5: You're a cripple.
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Wrong. Would you like to debate me about this, or will you be a pussy like usual.
Well whatever position I am, you will always be lower as you are the one squeamishly running and hiding from me.Then why are you the one stalking me begging to get noticed?
Why are you the one who keeps coming back like a stray kitten?
Call me whatever boomer name you want, but you will simply be shooting yourself in the foot.Ok Padro. Everytime I "shoot myself in the foot" you seem to be the one screaming.
Screaming in second hand cringe for you.
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@ethang5
Yes. This shouldn't be much of a surprise.It isn't. People who claim to have won debates without debating usually crown themselves.
Unfortunately for you, I have won a debate, though I wouldn't go as far as saying that I deserve a crown.
I love how you ignored my clear statement...Do you often whine about things you love?
Do you often dodge and hide?
Do you often ignore evidence?Your statement isn't evidence, except for your poor education.
How would you know, you didn't read it?
Looks like your the one with minors in your mind.Right now, you're on my mind and you certainly sound like a minor.
Lmao imagine letting an internet person get into your mind. Goes to show how unoccupied you are.
...someone who allegedly spells like a 4th gradeAllegedly?? Lol!!
Yes?
...so repeating the same statement tends to arouse a response from you.Repetition. A staple of trolls.
Repetition. The only way to get through to some people.
You can stop if you wish,...But I've told you I don't wish to.
I know you're getting aroused from the attention, this must be a foreign feeling for you.
Yes it's always someone else's fault.Don't be stupid. I said the mod had not been "unjust". You did.
I mean, you're who's constantly complaining about Ragnar, not me. Also, quote exactly where I said the moderators are unjust.
I mean anyone with triple digit IQ judges like how I did.Statements like this would be less laughable if you were better at grammar and spelling.
I mean you're the one who got your spelling and grammar point deducted in your debate so I won't be talking if I were you.
Yeah I know, the pedophillic jokes coming from you are getting old.The ones you listed are never old eh?
No they're not because I don't continuously repeat statements like a broken clock.
What's below a "dumb cripple"?You seem to be applying for the position. It's currently vacant if you want it. You certainly qualify.
Well whatever position I am, you will always be lower as you are the one squeamishly running and hiding from me. Call me whatever boomer name you want, but you will simply be shooting yourself in the foot.
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Granted, but you're famous for the wrong reasons...
I wish I had an IQ of 300.
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Damn, imagine being a worse debater than a militant low IQ troll, that must be tough.See? You didn't even to debate me to "win". Did you crown yourself too?
Yes. This shouldn't be much of a surprise.
I love how you ignored my clear statement...Do you often whine about things you love?
Do you often ignore evidence?
Don't worry, I don't intend on going down your pathYour love of pedo "jokes" increases my worry.
That's funny, because I only said this as a response to you stating "stay away from children and mirrors." Looks like your the one with minors in your mind.
...someone who allegedly spells like a 4th gradeAllegedly?? Lol!!
Yes?
Ok then debate me.No.
Exactly.
Give me your worst insult and I can comeback by saying "ok, but you're the one hiding from a [insert boomer insult]".That must be your magic chant huh?
I mean, you're a pretty 2 dimensional person so repeating the same statement tends to arouse a response from you.
I doubt a victim would message their aggressor every single time they have something to say.Or every single time the aggressor has something to say.
Nope, you keep replying, I am responding. You can stop if you wish, but it doesn't really make a difference.
Is that why you have been "unjustly banned" 4 times?One cannot be "unjustly" banned on a website where the mod can pick any reason as enough for a ban. Though omnipotent mods still can lie.
Yes it's always someone else's fault.
The mother thing was simply a joke. This is a serious accusation I am making against you, an accusation of which has been thoroughly supported by evidence of which you have opted to ignore.Lol. Funny how much like roses you think your side smells like when you're the one judging it.
I mean anyone with triple digit IQ judges like how I did.
Sorry I'm not immature like you so I don't spend my time reading comic strips.You spend much of it listening to "jokes" about pedophilia, we know.
Yeah I know, the pedophillic jokes coming from you are getting old.
Already refuted.You just said "everything" is settled, then immediately say it's been "refuted"? So your begging is not included in the "everything" that has been settled?
Nope. You made decided to kick up a verbal storm. I challenged you to a real fight. You ran. Settled.
...but then what does that make you? The guy who was so dumb that he couldn't debate the dumb guy.The guy who was so polite that he wouldn't debate the dumb guy.
Oh so the guy who was banned for 90 days for threatening to ejaculate his old sperm onto a fellow member is nice? How do you think you look, you're the old guy who's too scared to debate a guy who he constantly calls "dumb cripple". What's below a "dumb cripple"? Ethang5.
I'm starting to think your age may be as low as your IQ.
Is your Alzheimer's kicking in, you've used that one already.
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Wow so you've had experience hiding?Of course. Who wants to be found by militant, low IQ trolls?
Damn, imagine being a worse debater than a militant low IQ troll, that must be tough.
...it was a response to your initial comments about me being a cripple.Or that debating you would be akin to wrestling a cripple, but keep wearing that victim's jacket Mr. I'm not a liberal.
I love how you ignored my clear statement "tell me any policy which I am pro-democrat. Any. And don't give me some bullshit "you're a liberal snowflake haha get it because that's what Ben Shapiro says", tell me an act, policy or indication that I am democrat" and instead opt to continue throwing factless assertions.
I'll do me and continue weeding out pedos.Stay away from children and mirrors.
Don't worry, I don't intend on going down your path.
Tu quoque fallacy?When I don't answer your questions your bitch and moan.
When you get called out fo using fallacies, immediately deny and throw boomer insult.
I will weed all the pedos out with no regret, including you.Lol. You come out of the blue with a sick comment about little boys begging not to be raped you later claim was a joke, but I'm the pedo? Ok, goober.
Debunked. Wow, talking to theists like you are easy, all I have to do is give a single solid response, and continuously link it before they get frustrated and quit. The post is there buddy, not my fault yoru dodging it.
..why don't you put that on to the test?No need to. You're already spelling like a 4th grader.
Yeah, you won't debate someone who allegedly spells like a 4th grade.
Ok then debate me.No.
Yeah that's what I thought.
continuously dodges attempts to walk the walk.And walking the walk being besting a mental midget?
Yup, whatever you say champ. Give me your worst insult and I can comeback by saying "ok, but you're the one hiding from a [insert boomer insult]".
I mean you tagged me in your response so it wasn't really "stalking" was it. I get a nice notification every time you spew.Right. I like it so it can't be stalking. Hmmm?
Well it's very odd because I doubt a victim would message their aggressor every single time they have something to say.
I'm sure pedophiles are treated well in prison.Stupid people are treated poorly everywhere. Even on websites.
Is that why you have been "unjustly banned" 4 times? Wow it must be true, they do treat stupid people poorly.
You have no grounds of saying this as you never responded.Stupidity needs no response.
I know, but I get joy replying to you because I know with every post, you lose a little bit of public image, not that there's much left.
This seems impossible seeing as she's dead.You didn't know she had passed away
The average life expectancy for a women is 81 years old. You are around 60. The average age of having a child is 29. I'll wager a bet and say that you're mum isn't 90.
That's funny, coming from the pedo.If insulting my dear mother didn't irk me, do you think silly insults from a childish stranger online will?
The mother thing was simply a joke. This is a serious accusation I am making against you, an accusation of which has been thoroughly supported by evidence of which you have opted to ignore.
We already know you love and watch many comics doing pedo "jokes".
Sorry I'm not immature like you so I don't spend my time reading comic strips.
Well then this settles everything.Hopefully that includes your begging.
Already refuted.
Your range of vocabulary is shocking.
You can insult as much as you want.Thanks again, but it'll never be your mother. I was not raised by a crack addict.
Haha got me there.
But if you're asked to truly test the veracity of your claims and you say no, then the conversation is over you immediately admit that you are all talk.And yet you kept begging pages after I told you no, and that it would always be no.
Already refuted.
Your range of vocabulary is shocking. Why do you keep repeating yourself like a broken clock?
You're not too bright are you?
Yes yes I am very dumb, but then what does that make you? The guy who was so dumb that he couldn't debate the dumb guy.
I'm surprised you can even count to 25.Lol. I'm starting to think your age may be as low as your IQ.
I started to think that about you upon reviewing your interactions with fellow forum users.
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No, they never challenged to a debate or a conversation in which ad hominem and non sequiturs are prohibited did they.Sure they did. Did you think you're the first to come up with the, "you're a coward unless you debate me" clunker?
Wow so you've had experience hiding?
And if ad-homs were prohibited, you would already be booted for your first insult to my mother.
Nope, number 1 it was a joke and number 2, even if you're weak and take it as an insult, it was a response to your initial comments about me being a cripple.
No, because whenever someone has a serious stab, you run away and hide.Or I stay and let them make jokes about pedophilic rape. Either or.
The accusations getting old now. It was debunked 4 days ago.
Just look at you. Dodging, calling people cripples, accusing people of pedophille all whilst running away from evidence.I thought you'd be too busy snitching to the mods to be looking at me.
Call it what you want, I'll do me and continue weeding out pedos.
it is not all about winning and losing, there are things such as glory and dignity, two things which you do not have.Glorious dignified people insult people's dead mothers??
Tu quoque fallacy?
Yes just like how a trash talker can decline bringing it into the streets, but not much dignity there is there?And you think dignity is following me around begging to be noticed and cracking "jokes" about kids begging not to be raped? I don't need your type of dignity.
Your range of vocabulary is shocking.
...you will indeed be very poor at them.Must be why you're getting your butt handed to you here so badly that you had to run to the mods like a sissy little girl.
Again, there is no shame in "snitching" on a pedophile. I will weed all the pedos out with no regret, including you.
...seeing how you see your own skills as above everyone else'sNot everyone else. Just you. Bones, you'd lose the debate just on spelling alone!
Oh yes I'm sure you would, why don't you put that on to the test? Oh yeah, you're all about talk and you won't actually debate me, even though I would "lose the debate just on spelling along".
it would be good to give you a swift reality check.You lack the required IQ points to do that job.
Ok then debate me. No? Then take a seat.
then that is a tacit agreement to the fact that you cannot beat me in a moderated conversation.Really? My guess is you will still be buttaching about me not doing what you want ten posts from now. Take your "tacit" win and save what's left of any dignity you might have once had.
Dignity? Thats thick, coming from the pedophile who continuously dodges attempts to walk the walk.
No you don't leave anything up, you simply accuse accuse accuse an when confronted, you hide.But not well enough that the stalker couldn't find me.
I mean you tagged me in your response so it wasn't really "stalking" was it. I get a nice notification every time you spew.
Yeah guess what? I did clarify. Here. But you chose to run, as mouses do.What was I supposed to do with your ludicrous excuse that you were joking because other comedians also joke about child rape??
I find it very funny that you leave out the bit in my reply which neatly refutes this accusation. Language can be interpreted in any way. I can interpret the "dog" as "cat", if I were stupid. The whole purpose of language is that it is essentially noises allocated to a thing. Language isn't objective, there "dog" doesn't mean "dog" in every possible universe. So yes, my comment can be interpreted in any way, just like how an idiot will see the word black and think purple.
In fact, the way I see it, you interpreting this as child rape when that is clearly not my intention is only reflective of your dirty mind. It's ok, I'm sure pedophiles are treated well in prison.
My problem is that you make false accusation and when proven wrong, ignore the postYour post proves nothing.
You have no grounds of saying this as you never responded.
In fact, if I had said what I think, you be much more butthurt right now.
No I will say though, you have hurt me with the second hand cringe I'm feeling for you. Please, take a step back and look at yourself. You're an old pedophile who accuses other people of condoning child rape, who when confronted with evidence hides and runs away. So much for your dignity.
Did I attempt to hurt or defeat your mother yes or no.Yes. Now ask me if you're a shameless liar. Go ahead, ask.
Ok next question, where exactly did I attempt to hurt or defeat your mother. This seems impossible seeing as she's dead.
...in saying "pick an option" you are assuming that there are only two options.Where you "joking" there too about my mother begging you NOT to rape her?
...just like how an idiot will see the word black and think purple.And when one sees the words, "...priests had those choirboys begging" what should he think?
Well, a normal human being would think "wow this militant anti-theist is commenting on the wide spread church scandal. I wonder if he, a militant anti-theist going to defend the church or not, because defending the church seems exactly like what a militant anti-theist would do. "
Well at least you haven't lost all your hair.My dignity is still intact too.
That's funny, coming from the pedo.
Let's debate.I don't know how to make this any more clear to you. Your suggested topics are infantile.
THBT: The God of the Christian bible likely does not exist. Is this infantile?
My answer is no.
Well then this settles everything. You can talk as much as you want. You can lie as much as you want. You can insult as much as you want. But if you're asked to truly test the veracity of your claims and you say no, then the conversation is over you immediately admit that you are all talk.
you gain about 25 IQ points.
I'm surprised you can even count to 25.
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None of them really challenged what you were saying,...You weren't here. But maybe you were one of them under a different name.
No, they never challenged to a debate or a conversation in which ad hominem and non sequiturs are prohibited did they.
...none of them successfully debunked your jargon.No one has ever debunked Ethan
No, because whenever someone has a serious stab, you run away and hide.
Just look at how you're doing. Insulting a person's mother, making "jokes" about child rape and masturbation.
Just look at you. Dodging, calling people cripples, accusing people of pedophille all whilst running away from evidence.
Do you really think you're winning?
Ethang, ethang, life is not simply a 2 dimensional plane, it is not all about winning and losing, there are things such as glory and dignity, two things which you do not have.
How can you utter those two sentences next to each other. You want to be serious, you want to be real yet you call me a liberal troll who’s a bum? Come on now.Dude. You approached me. I declined, which is perfectly within my right.
Yes just like how a trash talker can decline bringing it into the streets, but not much dignity there is there?
You have since followed me around buttaching, insulting my mother, and joking about child rape.
You may as well call me a murderer at this point, if you're going to continue with your false accusations. No wonder you're not doing debates, you will indeed be very poor at them.
You are an idiot if you think I MUST debate you
Never said you must debate me. It's just seeing how cocky you are and seeing how you see your own skills as above everyone else's, it would be good to give you a swift reality check. Sure don't debate me, but then that is a tacit agreement to the fact that you cannot beat me in a moderated conversation.
How can you be serious if you’re the one claiming that I’m pro-child-rape, yet when responded to, ignore what I have to say?What you said was after the fact rationalizations to extracate yourself from your vile comment.
Unfortunately, you still fail to respond to what I have to say. This would be like me saying "Ethang replying to me a sin and he should be banned" and when given evidence which suggests the contrary is true, saying "No Ethang, you are trying to rationalise your sin". Pure idiocy.
All I had to do was leave it up without comment. Unlike you, I don't think our readers are stupid.
No you don't leave anything up, you simply accuse accuse accuse an when confronted, you hide.
...you are hiding in the forums because you know that this bs will go unpunished.Didn't you say the mods were in your pocket and that my ban was immanent?
I said your behaviour yielded distaste and that the situation will be dealt with.
Again with this cheap attempt at a “gotcha” moment.All I did was take your comments. I asked you if you wanted to clarify.
Yeah guess what? I did clarify. Here. But you chose to run, as mouses do.
What exactly is your problem now? Are you demanding I believe you?
My problem is that you make false accusation and when proven wrong, ignore the post.
False dilemma fallacy. Assuming that because I do not believe I "hurt or defeat your mother" I must therefore mean the exact opposite. You are yet to experience the world, but in life, there are more than two options.And yet, seven posts after the rude comment, you still have not picked any option.
Another false dilemma, because in saying "pick an option" you are assuming that there are only two options. Answer this with a simple yes are no, none of your signature garble. Did I attempt to hurt or defeat your mother yes or no.
First you accuse me of, and I quote "the kids begging to be raped", and now it's "begging not to be raped". Which is it?You said your comment could be interpreted both ways, did you not?
Language can be interpreted in any way. I can interpret the "dog" as "cat", if I were stupid. The whole purpose of language is that it is essentially noises allocated to a thing. Language isn't objective, there "dog" doesn't mean "dog" in every possible universe. So yes, my comment can be interpreted in any way, just like how an idiot will see the word black and think purple.
So I'm not sure what this complaint is about.It was an observation, not a complaint. You went crying to the mods, not me.
No it's just I wish to weed out as many pedo's as I can.
Have I said anything that a reasonable person can interpret as crossing the line? Nope.It makes my hair stand on end to imagine where you think the line is.
Well at least you haven't lost all your hair.
Now, you can reset, dail down, and have a reasonable conversation, or you can keep trying to, what did you say? "Knock me down a notch." Your choice.
I'm all for this. Let's do this in a space where ad hominem and non sequiturs ares punished. Why would this impact you if you want a reasonable conversation? Let's do this in a space where have structure and contention. Let's do this in a space where false accusations go punished. Let's debate.
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Ethang: Every single one did. Or at least claimed that is what they were doing.
Nope. None of them really challenged what you were saying, none of them successfully debunked your jargon. To borrow your saying, I know that you regret “biting this lion's tail”. I know you’re used to malinformed trolls.
Ethang: We already know how long I'll ignore your silly post.
Hm that’s a new one, the “oh your very well researched post which completely debunks my stance is silly”. You’re sounding like a liberal snowflake, to be honest. Also, I find it very funny that you say you’ll “ignore my silly posts”, and yet you keep coming back like a stray puppy.
Ethang: I told you, Ethan doesn't do stupid.
I know, the universe is finite, which really boggles me, because it is somehow containing you’re infinite stupidity,
Ethang: I give you exactly the response you deserve.
Of course you will, the classic “I’ll just pick and choose what you say and strategically leave out the bits which incriminate me”.
Ethang: I don't play games. If you get real, I will be real with you. But that liberal militant anti-theist troll act will be given the bum's rush every time.
How can you utter those two sentences next to each other. You want to be serious, you want to be real yet you call me a liberal troll who’s a bum? Come on now. How can you be serious if you’re the one claiming that I’m pro-child-rape, yet when responded to, ignore what I have to say? How can you be serious if you’re the one who first started calling me a cripple, albeit not being threatened. How can you be serious if you’re the one who’s running from a debate, a space in which ad hominem and non sequiturs will be called out? Obviously, you are hiding in the forums because you know that this bs will go unpunished.
Ethang: But now it's no longer the kids begging to be raped, it's now the children begging NOT to be raped.
Again with this cheap attempt at a “gotcha” moment. Your allegations are old, they have already been debunked. Tell me, how is it even tautologically possible to want to be raped? By definition, rape is non consensual, you cannot consent to something which definitionally requires you to be violated. Again, I have already said this, why would I, a person who you describe as a militant anti-theist go and support the churches and their scandle? In what world does a "militant anti-theist" go and say "yup, the kids deserved it, I mean I bet they wanted it".
Again, if you are interpreting this as "Bones likes child rape", then
I never tried to hurt or defeat your mother.No, your comment about having her begging was to help and assist her win.
False dilemma fallacy. Assuming that because I do not believe I "hurt or defeat your mother" I must therefore mean the exact opposite. You are yet to experience the world, but in life, there are more than two options.
Not a democrat. Not a leftist. Day I've lost count of me telling you that I am not a liberal.I respect actions, not words. If you look like a duck, and quack like a duck....
Tell me any policy which I am pro-democrat. Any. And don't give me some bullshit "you're a liberal snowflake haha get it because that's what Ben Shapiro says", tell me an act, policy or indication that I am democrat.
Good luck. Maybe you'd like to tell another joke about kids begging not to be raped while we wait.
First you accuse me of, and I quote "the kids begging to be raped", and now it's "begging not to be raped". Which is it?
Feel free, the mods only see my "ugly stuff", never yours. You're after all, an atheist.
Again, I'll say this. Every single moderator is a theist. Every single one. So I'm not sure what this complaint is about. Second of, I never accused a fellow member of condoning rape without any reason. Did I make jokes? Yes. Can they be interpreted wrong? Anyone can interpret anything the way they want. Have I said anything that a reasonable person can interpret as crossing the line? Nope.
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Post #5 of telling Ethang5 to stop dodging and to respond to my post of which thoroughly deconstructs their folly.
Remember, this is not a challenge to a debate, nor is it an accusation. It is simply a response to your startling and defamatory accusations of which you are keen to hold on to, despite them being thoroughly refuted.
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Post #4 of telling Ethang5 to stop dodging and to respond to my post of which thoroughly deconstructs their folly.Every troll I mentioned earlier tried the same silly counting thing. We will see how high you'll count before figuring out it's silly. They also tried quoting the ban log. Bet you thought you were being original eh?
No, the other "trolls" never challenged you to a fight, they never confronted your folly. My counter is simply here to keep track of how long it takes for you to stop ignoring my post which I made in response to you. Why reply to me, if you ignore the response you receive?
And of course, you will pick the low hanging fruit of which was never for you.Your posts are "low hanging fruit"?
They were hanging for other people, not you. You have a special apple.
To say "now say you were joking" is to imply that there was a point in time in which I did not believe it was a joke. Unfortunately, you don't back up this claim.Lol. You backpedal very well.
To say that I backpedal is to say that I have gone back on a statement. Unfortunately, I have done no such thing. I made a joke, and it is still a joke.
Link your comment, if you so dare.Dare? You really live in a fantasy world don't you?People like you are possible on this board only because of the mod team's admitted bias against theism.
No link? I suppose it really was bad then.
Tell me, where did I "try to hurt or defeat" your mother.Seriously. Not responding is also an option.
Sorry where? Exactly. That's right, I never tried to hurt or defeat your mother.
...and then making a truly disgusting comment on child rape.
False accusation responded to 3 days ago. Goodness, if we were all as slow as you, we would be living in caves.
Have a look at how you're all sanctimonious and outraged. Child rape! My goodness! Where is the perpetrator! Oh wait, a delve into relevant posts will find that the"truly disgusting comment on child rape" was actually made by Ethang5.Lol. Just like the Democrats suddenly saying it was really the Republicans who wanted to defund the police. Do leftists all have the same playbook?
Not a democrat. Not a leftist. Day I've lost count of me telling you that I am not a liberal.
Yeah they will think that, after your devastating loss in which voters declared that you had poor spelling and grammar. Goodness, a senior citizen who doesn't know his ABC's, that's new.Dodge and I will bring up your silliness again. How is banning me going for you?
My silliness? I mean I've seen your interaction with others on Debate.org and goodness, you're an angry old man. As for how the ban's going? I've been told by a member of the moderation that you're behaviour is "ugly stuff" and that further actions may be taken.
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Post #4 of telling Ethang5 to stop dodging and to respond to my post of which thoroughly deconstructs their folly.
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I can comment on any post I like.
And of course, you will pick the low hanging fruit of which was never for you.
You first attacked my mother. You have dodged that you did attack my mother, AND that you were the first to make accusations.
Tell me, where did I "try to hurt or defeat" your mother.
You made the putrid statement. You now say you were joking.
To say "now say you were joking" is to imply that there was a point in time in which I did not believe it was a joke. Unfortunately, you don't back up this claim.
How is your comment better than the "fapping" comment for which I was banned?
Link your comment, if you so dare.
People like you are possible on this board only because of the mod team's admitted bias against theism.
The entire, and I repeat, entire board are theistic.
And you have the nerve to report me after being the first to attack me by attacking my mother,
Tell me, where did I "try to hurt or defeat" your mother.
and then making a truly disgusting comment on child rape.
Have a look at how you're all sanctimonious and outraged. Child rape! My goodness! Where is the perpetrator! Oh wait, a delve into relevant posts will find that the"truly disgusting comment on child rape" was actually made by Ethang5.
Read the above slowly - if that will help you understand.
If I was as slow as you, I would be walking with the dinos.
Or Conversely, that member might think, "wow this pedophille (sic) really made mistakes with his grammar. and spelling."
Yeah they will think that, after your devastating loss in which voters declared that you had poor spelling and grammar. Goodness, a senior citizen who doesn't know his ABC's, that's new.
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Though I know you already regret taking this tiger by the tail.
An absolute knee slapper. This is age like fine wine when, in the near future, a curious Dart user scrolls through the archive's of banned users, thinking "wow this pedophille really made a mistake picking on Bones".
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Post was addressed to EtrnlV not you. You'll hush unless you'er spoken to.I can comment on any post I like. And as I told you, if it takes a hundred years, you will understand that your liberal penchant to think you're in charge and can tell others what to do is nonsense.You first attacked my mother. You have dodged that you did attack my mother, AND that you were the first to make accusations.You made the putrid statement. You now say you were joking. How is your comment better than the "fapping" comment for which I was banned? How could Rag not see my comment as a joke, and agree that your far more vile and sexual comment was a joke?People like you are possible on this board only because of the mod team's admitted bias against theism. And you have the nerve to report me after being the first to attack me by attacking my mother, and then making a truly disgusting comment on child rape. Thank God the board records our posted comments.Why would I, an open anti-theiest who publicly criticizes the veracity of religion come into the defense of pedophile priests? Wouldn't it be more fitting to my persona for me to criticize a non-controversial immoral act?Not if your anti-theiesm hate is greater than your homophobia. My experience has been that militant atheists are willing to make ANY statement if it allows them to take a dig against the church. You were attacking priests, you just had not thought it through.You agreed that your comment could be interpreted two ways.Trust me, both myself and ethang are capable of much more slander than this.Trust me, I will never insult your mother. I'll use your words. And I will never slander you unless your own words themselves first slander you.I'm capitalising on what I know is a violation and utlasing it to get a pedo banned from this cite.At least you are honest about your intent. Now Rag knows you and he share a goal. PM him and you guys can collude in privacy.Till then, your burning continues. Though I know you already regret taking this tiger by the tail.
Again dodging my original post. Therefore, I must repeat. Post was addressed to EtrnlV not you. You'll hush unless you're spoken to. If you want something to chew at, how about my in depth response to you're spew, or is that a little outside your league?
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The way you wrote the statement came off like you were saying that the choir boy wanted it, I get your reasoning why you disagree so I'm not saying that is what you insinuated.
Why would I, an open anti-theist who publicly criticizes the veracity of religion come into the defense of pedophile priests? Wouldn't it be more fitting to my persona for me to criticize a non-controversial immoral act?
I don't think Ethan was trying to slander you
Come on now.
Because while you thought he was making a defamatory accusation, you are too by calling him a pedophile.
I don't know if I'm just an advanced linguist who analysis speech on a multi dimensional level, but the way I see it, Ethang's a pedo. I'll try and explain.
If I were to say "Yeah, EtrnlVw thinks that Michael Jackson is still alive, he's a bit of a boner", it is clear that I, as the accuser, believe the contrary, that is I believe that Michael Jackson is dead. The statement uttered above is done so in a manner in which is sarcastic and almost mockingly, with the purpose of highlighting just how silly the assertion is. In stating it, I imply that not only are wrong in your belief that Michael Jackson is alive, but it is a silly assertion of which violates common sense, similar to how the sentence "Yeah, EtrnlVw believes horses can fly" implies that it is common sense that the contrary is true. Returning to Ethang5, his statement Yeah, you think it isn't rape if the 11 year old boy wanted it. We know your position boner, to me at least, the same principle applies. Perhaps my IQ is just too high when it comes to analyzing Ethang5, an admittedly shallow and simple individual's statement. Maybe I am overthinking, but that is just the curse of genius I suppose.
You obviously are offended because that's not what you meant so at this point it would be better if the whole conversation ended.
I'm not offended, I'm capitalising on what I know is a violation and utlasing it to get a pedo banned from this cite. Trust me, both myself and ethang are capable of much more slander than this. Trust me, Ethang's a vile derogatory machine, quote me on that one.
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@ethang5
To clarify, there is a very big difference between a joke, even a risky joke and a defamatory accusation.Like a true liberal, you want to be able to decide for the both of us what is and is not "acceptable". That will not happen with me.Even my joke about priests is a joke, a risky one sure but still a joke which many comediansI made no jokes. I posted what you said and asked you if you wanted to clarify. If you're butthurt, it's due to your filthy comment and not any "accusation".I didn't start the accusations, that's on the boomer who couldn't handle my heat.I guess you saying that you had my mother "begging" was just another joke and not an accusation? You first started that.First you said that stalking wasn't stalking if the "victim" wanted to be stalked. That tells me you think crimes at not true crimes if the victims love being victimized. You said so to me, accusing me of loving your stalking, and that it could not be stalking if I loved it.Then immediately after, you say, "begging is what choir boys do to Priests". Then by your own established principle, a priest buggering a child is NOT a crime if the child "loved" it. You think the child "wanted" it because you think they "begged" the priest for it.Called out, you're now claiming it was a joke. But I've noticed that while you've tried to explain both the choir boy comment and the prom comment with a weak, "I was only joking" excuse, you have been silent about your comment about my mother.You had her "begging" you said. Was she begging you TO, or NOT TO rape her? Or did you mean she was "begging" for something else?See, I told you loser, nothing you can say bothers me. But you, overly conscious about your image on the board, (you want to be seen as a gallant knight...) Lol!You can be hurt. And I didn't use lies or "jokes" to do it. I used your words.You are a liberal, so you think I MUST debate you. You think when you require me to debate, you have some sort of right to be obeyed. You think you can force or shame me into obeying you by whining incessantly that I'm a "coward".I don't care about you, or your infantile opinions. You can beg and whine for a hundred years, my answer will be the same. Do you actually think anyone here with a life cares whether I debate you? Or is concerned that I'm a "coward" if I don't? Even I don't care.You make the same mistake all trolls make. You think people will enjoy reading your repetitive spam over and over. No one does. I just have to keep replying you and you will torpedo yourself with over the top repeated stupidity.Dart has seen this exact scenario before with me and Bullproof, Disgusted, Hari, Salixes, Willows, Goldtop, etc. They are all have been permanently banned.But keep begging. You might be that one troll in ten thousand that will give Rag the bullet he craves. I will be here for you.
Post was addressed to EtrnlV not you. You'll hush unless you'er spoken to. If you want something to chew at, how about my in depth response to you're spew, or is that a little outside your league?
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@EtrnlVw
To clarify, there is a very big difference between a joke, even a risky joke and a defamatory accusation. Saying "tehehe the only thing ye did is your right hand" is very different from saying "you do not think the touching of an 11 year old constitutes rape if he wanted it", even though the sentence is tautologically wrong. Even my joke about priests is a joke, a risky one sure but still a joke which many comedians
use, all in good faith. I didn't start the accusations, that's on the boomer who couldn't handle my heat.
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@BrotherDThomas
"Your boringly childish template posts are still old and dumb. I don't care for your repetative spam." Do people ignore you so completely that you have to beg people to see your turd droppings?
Ethang5 tends to deliver poor insults, followed by a completely irrelevant question. Keep at it and down the track, he won't be able to retrain himself from accusing you of pedophlilia.
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@ethang5
Point to me where I said you were Catholic.Would pointing to where you thought I might be Catholic suffice?
Ok go on then.
I mean I'm not the coward dodging a debate...No, you're the coward who is trying to use a wall-o-text to hide from is completely disgusting comment about pedophile rape.
Wow that's your excuse. Nice one. Looks like you're the one "acting all sanctimonious and outraged". Well, if you actually read my "wall-o-text" then you would see that it is you who is the pedophile. It isn't me who accused a fellow member of condoning the rape of an 11 year old boy.
I'm sure you'll simply ignore my wall of evidence and pick out bits and sections. Until then, the dodger continue's to dodge!
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@Wylted
you're breaking religion forum rules right now. Do not post outside of the interfaith service thread
Wasn't aware of this, I thought the rule only applied in your Atheists are no longer welcome here forum.
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@ethang5
So thinking I might be Catholic, (I'm not)
Point to me where I said you were Catholic.
acting all sanctimonious and outraged.
Not at all, not at all, the only emotion your petty boomer insults proke is second hand cringe for yourself. I simply know that this is a cite for diplomatic discussion and the occasional witty remark, but the glorification of sexual abuse against minors is strictly forbidden. I'm simply capitalising on a rule set by the cite. After all, no harm weeding out the pedophiles among the community.
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@ethang5
Ok, I'm only going to do this once, because quite frankly, I don't think you'll read this as this is quite above your literacy capabilities. Nevertheless, I'm about to hold your hand and introduce you into the big boy world, where structure and evidence is celebrated, and non sequiturs and ad hominem are frowned upon. I know! The only two tools you have taken away.
Key Terms:
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CONTENTION 1: Ethang5's attempt at humour is not actually humour
Ethang5: Yeah, you think it isn't rape if the 11 year old boy wanted it. We know your position boner.
Using the three terms provided above, it is clear that Ethang5's statement falls into the category of defamation and accusation. To break down Ethang5's statement, consider the following analysis.
p1. BONES thinks that IF the 11 year old boy wanted sex THEN it isn't rape.
p2. The 11 year old boy wanted sex.
c1. It isn't rape.
In a model form
p1. X thinks that if Y wanted Z then it isn't A.
p2. Y wanted Z
c1. It isn't A.
However, there is one major problem with the syllogism. Notice how Ethang5 has snuck a hidden contention, of which he assumes is axiomatic. The following is the honest syllogism;
p1. IF X thinks that if Y wanted Z then it isn't A.
p2. X thinks that if Y wanted Z then it isn't A.
p3. Y wanted Z
c1. It isn't A.
Notice that Ethang5's accusation only holds if X thinks Y wanted Z. If and only if X thinks this, then the second premise can be examined. Unfortunately, Ethang5 does not provide any (good) reason for us to believe that X thinks such a thing, thus the syllogism falls flat. This assumption that X thinks Y wanted Z is the textbook definition of what defamation is, that is the act of communicating false statements about a person that injure the reputation of that person.
As aforementioned, Ethang5 does not provide any good reasons to believe that I thought such a thing, but they do provide a seemingly damaging statement made by myself.
REBUTTAL 1: Bones' alleged "misconduct"
Before I even begin rebutting the poor attempt at a "gotcha" moment, I must make clear that Ethang5 has committed a Tu quoque fallacy. The (fallacious) tu quoque argument follows the following template.
p1. Person A claims that statement X is true.
p2. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
c1. Therefore, X is false.
In this situation,
p1. Bones claims that Ethang5 has made a pedophillic statment
p2. Ethang5 asserts that Bones past action are inconsistent with the truth claim of pedophillic statements.
c1. Therefore Ethang5 did not make a pedophillic statement.
It must be noted that even if I did make a pedophillic statement, the truth claim that Ethang5 did the same still holds. Regardless of my past, the syllogism I provide will still hold. Embarrassingly however, I am not a pedo like Ethang5. The alleged "misconduct" is branded as a result of the following conversation.
Bones: tell me exactly where I say that 11 year old boys wish to get raped by their priests.Ethang5 quoting Bones: Begging is what the choir boys did the priest.Ethan5 commentary: If you meant something different, say so. But after saying you had my mother begging, calling me a "pussy", and claiming I masturbated at my prom, the choir boy comment seems within your scope.
As any sensible person can see, this is a terrible misunderstanding of which can be completely attributed to the result of Ethang5's elementary understanding in conversation.
My statement "begging is what the choir boys did to the priest" can be interpreted in two ways (actually, it can only be logically interpreted in one way, but Ethang5 is not a logical being).
- The choir boys were begging to be raped.
- The choir boys were begging not to be raped.
The first analysis of which Ethang5 has opted for can be rendered as illogical purely on the basis of tautology. By virtue of what is true via definition, it is impossible to want to get raped, as being raped by definition happens non consensually.
Therefore, this leaves us with the second interpretation, that is the children did not want to be raped. Not only does this sentence roll of the tongue far better, it is also far more consistent with my persona on this website as an anti-theist. Moreover, it is also consistent with reality. Consider the following excerpt from the Irish Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse.
7.129 In relation to one School, four witnesses gave detailed accounts of sexual abuse, including rape in all instances, by two or more Brothers and on one occasion along with an older resident. A witness from the school, from which there were several reports, described being raped by three Brothers and on one occasion along with an older resident... described being raped by three Brothers: "I was brought to the infirmary... they held me over the bed, they were animals... they penetrated me, I was bleeding". Another witness reported he was abused twice weekly on particular days by two brothers in the toilets off the dormitory: "One Brother kept watch while the other abused me sexually, then they changed over. Every time it ended with a severe beating. When I told the priests in Confession, he called me a liar".
Miscellaneous
You got carried away trying to find an insult that riled me. So you first attacked my mother, then how I was raised, then my father, and finally, charged masturbation. I did not follow suit.
We must remember how this encounter started. I first directed you to a forum which I posted, to which you replied
And if you aren't embarrassed to offer such stupidity as evidence, nothing I can say will help you.
I then simply replied, with no hint of aggression or desire to insult
Do you want to debate or are you just going to talk your talk?
To which you replied
If you really think Jesus was telling His followers to mutilate themselves you aren't intelligent enough to be worth talking to.I do not debate flat earthers, or Jehovah witnesses, or people who think Genesis 1 and 2 are different creation stories. I do not debate people who take the most ludicrous childish interpretations of the Bible. There is no need to debate them as they are either being dishonest or are too stupid to be worth the effort.
Notice how you are the one who initiated the aggression. Notice how I offered to settle this diplomatically in a debate. Notice how you ran and dodged.
Till then I will be here to burn you for as long as it takes for you to realize you're being a fool.
I mean I'm not the coward dodging a debate...
Go cry to them some more.
I mean I'm not the coward dodging a debate...
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@ethang5
First off, I will not reply to your hilarious attempt at a "gotcha" moment. Seriously, copy and pasting our conversation and completely putting them out of context is a tell tale sign that you've been outwitted, and that you must resort to misrepresentations. I notice that after embarrassingly putting you into context here, you had nothing to say. This is exactly why I want a debate over this back and forth nonsense. You're poor attempts at ad hominem and misrepresentation will go deeply punished in a debate setting, but of course, you know this and you know that those tools are the only thing you have. It's ok.
Saying 11 year old choir boy begged Priests to rape them IS sick.
Then why did you accuse me of saying it. You realise you are simply digging a hole for yourself? Unless you tell me exactly where I say that 11 year old boys wish to get raped by their priests (how tf does that even work? By nature of tautology, to be raped is something which you do not consent to i.e, you cannot want to be raped or else it is not rape)
Let me make something very clear. There is a very clear difference between making jokes about stereotypes and accusing someone of saying that 11 year olds wish to be raped by their priests (completely your words, not mine).
You came on trying to match me on wit and found you couldn't.
I find it funny that you think the boomer just out witted me. Come on the only joke you know are minion memes. I'll tell you what happened. I challenged you to a debate. You ran. You challenge me to this forum wit battle. I didn't run. You realised you bit off just a little more than you could chew. I out witted you. You then resorted to false accusations that I allegedly asserted that I think it isn't rape if the 11 year old boy wanted it. Not only is this not a "ooooh risky but funny joke", but it's simply a cringe attempt from a boomer to be relevant.
If you think I have made any joke, any at all which are on-par with your cringe worthy attempt at gen-z humour, let me know. And don't do your classic copy and pasting an entire essay worth of our dialogue, point out specifically where I matched your joke on child rape.
Saying 11 year old choir boy begged Priests to rape them IS sick. Hypocrite much?
Point to me exactly where I said 11 year old choir boys begging their priests to rape them isn't sick. This is misrepresentation at it's peak.
Jesus. I think it's time for you to get back to the crosswords and horoscopes, I think.
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@ethang5
If we're going to start calling each other's things which we aren't, I should start calling you a Nazi then...Sure, you're a liberal. You guys call eryone who disagrees with you a Nazi, or a homophobe, or a right wing extremist. Catch up snowflake.
Day 3 of telling you I'm not a liberal.
It is of my judgement that Ethang5 has nothing to contribute to this cite. But of course, judgement is on you guys. I will say, on my watch, accusing someone of being accepting of child rape is most certainly not acceptable.But necrophilia with ones mother is ok? Does blatant hypocrisy not shame you?
When did I say I wanted to fuck your dead mum? False accusation?
This is where the atheist pulls a Stephen. He can't rattle or win me so he calls the mods to come ban me for the things he's done.
No it's just some of us don't want to hang out with pedophilles, and the mods ought to know when one of them pop up.
Let me know how that goes. In the main time, you're going to get toasted Everytime you put your ignorance and bitterness on display. Cheers.
Thanks for dodging the debate. It lets us all know how much of a coward you are. All this "I'm the alpha, I'm toasting you, I'm better than you" doesn't really hold up when you blitz away at a real opportunity to prove your worth. You can say your part as loud as you want, but I can always reply "ok then debate me", to which you will hide.
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@ethang5
I was banned on a policy that the mod was unwilling or unable to explain!
You were banned because you threatened to ejaculate on a Dart member.
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@MisterChris
Ethang5: Yeah, you think it isn't rape if the 11 year old boy wanted it. We know your position boner.
I'm reporting this statement made by Ethang5 as I believe it is
- A violation of the Code of Conduct subsection Violence and Criminal Behavior point 4 of which stipulates
- You may not engage in or promote the sexual exploitation of minors.
- As Ethang5 made the outlandish assertion that I believe sexual interaction between a minor and an adult is not rape, it certainly that I am somehow promoting the sexual exploitation of minors.
- Though this is not strictly a promoting of the sexual exploitation of minors, I believe it to be a far more serious offence, as it is an allegation that a fellow user condones such acts, without sufficient evidence. What Ethang5 has done is akin to me asserting that a moderator is a fond exploiter of children with no evidence whatsoever. Unless Ethang5 can show where I explicitly encourage and condone the sexual exploitation of 11 year old boys, this is simply a poor attempt at humour.
Furthermore, for the ease of moderators, the following, derived from the Code of Conduct, subsection Consequences stipulates that any violation of the Violence and Criminal Behavior policy will result in an immediate indefinite ban.
Coupled with the multiple bans of which Ethang5 has already faced
Date: 04/07/2020Moderator: Joint-moderator decisionethang5 has been banned for 30 days due to an unending stream of personal attacks, cross thread contamination, excessive trolling, disregarding moderation intervention...Two additional weeks have been added for a restraining order violation.
Date: 06/16/2020Moderator: Joint Decisionethang5 has been banned for 14-days days for spam. And yes, contextually spamming requests for another member to spam, is itself spam.
Date: 07/20/2020Moderator: Ragnarethang5 has been banned for 90 days, following a resumed pattern of sexual harassment and disregarding both moderation intervention and polite requests from the target to cease.
Date: 02/04/2020Moderator: Ragnarethang5 has been banned for 30 days for wanton and repeated violation of the targeted harassment clause of the CoC. This is magnified by the timing of having only just come off a restraining order.
it is of my judgement that Ethang5 has nothing to contribute to this cite. But of course, judgement is on you guys. I will say, on my watch, accusing someone of being accepting of child rape is most certainly not acceptable.
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@ethang5
I'm not following you. To be follow is to come after someone undesirably.Pure liberal illogic. I'm not stalking you if you wanted me to stalk you. Lol.
1) If we're going to start calling each other's things which we aren't, I should start calling you a Nazi then, shall I? Or smart?
2) You must be quite dim. I'm not stalking you if you wanted me to stalk you. It is impossible to stalk someone who wants to be stalked. By nature of tautology (it's a technical term, you won't have heard of it) to stalk someone is to follow them without their approval or consent. If they want to be stalked, then they want to be followed, so it won't be stalking. That's called inductive reasoning, you won't have heard of that one either.
...the only thing which pleasured you at prom was your right hand.This is Mr. I'm not horny talking about sex again.
LMAO. You think the "right hand" giving "pleasure" is having sex? Jesus that is sad, but it explains a lot. If this were the case, then you would be a sex lord. Also, you are the one who bought up sex 3 times in what was previously a PG conversation, so I won't be talking if I were you, horney mf. Previously, this was a discussion in which I called you lame using slang (you won't have heard of that word either) but of course you had to bring up sex.
And yet here you are, salivating as you respond to me time after time. The salivating dodger, has a ring to it.Lol. You approached me and I keep responding, but I'm dodging and hiding? Ok shemp. I will remain here for you.
Begging is what the choir boys did the priest.Yeah, you think it isn't rape if the 11 year old boy wanted it. We know your position boner.
That is actually fucked up. Of course it's fucking rape if the kid's 11. Come on now.
Time to hop of your computer and conquer the real word!I will not allow you to save face by quitting. You came looking for me, you now have me. You will quit when your shame grows greater than your need for status.
I assure you I'll have the last word.
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@ethang5
Sorry I'm not the one quivering and dodging a challenge so...No, you're the idiot following me around begging to be noticed.
1) I'm not following you. To be follow is to come after someone undesirably. Obviously, as you keep replying, you're really loving the attention.
I know you were probably raised that way. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.Neither does the trash fall far from the bin. I will take you out Abdul.
You wouldn't know anything about taking people out lmao, the only thing which pleasured you at prom was your right hand.
Nobody thinks your boomer remarks are funny.Which explains why they are laughing at the other guy.
Non sequitur, just because no one is laughing at you doesn't mean they're laughing at me.
O wow big roast you got me there.You will look back at this and cringe.
What am I supposed to say, you roasted me didn't you, or was that poor even for your standards?
I mean I don't know about you, but I rather be the challenger than the dodger.I'd rather not be the beggar.
And yet here you are, salivating as you respond to me time after time. The salivating dodger, has a ring to it.
I rather be seen as the gallant guy bravely challenging the antagonist gremlin, who runs and hides.And I don't care how the low-esteem beggar thinks I'm "seen".
Again, you're constant remarks that I am a beggar is only a sign of your naiveness. Begging is what the choir boys did the priest. Again I must repeat,
Which one do you think I am doing? If you really think this is begging, your range of vocabulary is shocking.
Time to hop of your computer and conquer the real word!
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@ethang5
With the above, we see that you are the one bringing sex in. Who mentioned sex? Not me. The horeny one did thoughMaybe because you're a pussy.
Sorry I'm not the one quivering and dodging a challenge so...
Yeah you are a true garbage man that sounds about rightI do deal with trash.
I know you were probably raised that way. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I don't know who Homer is, must be some boomer joke.Maybe that's why people are laughing.
Nobody thinks your boomer remarks are funny.
Serious about dodging lmao.And serious about burning you for as long as your low self-esteem makes you a public fool.
O wow big roast you got me there. I mean I don't know about you, but I rather be the challenger than the dodger. I rather be seen as the gallant guy bravely challenging the antagonist gremlin, who runs and hides.
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@EtrnlVw
it seems to me that Ethan gets the impression that your topic on the teachings of Jesus are somewhat of a worthless endeavor. I would have to agree with that.
Then get him to debate me. Why is he weaseling out of it? It's because he knows he is wrong and because he knows that, in an environment where he cannot use his famed non sequitur card, he will get baptised by me.
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@EtrnlVw
Honestly, this Brother Dick guy is a bit of a laugh. I mean really, how can you say that about one guy while completely ignoring the fact that this guy is a complete joke?
Brother is a joke on purpose, he's intentionally trollish and brings diversity to the religious forum. Ethang on the other hand tries to engage in serious conversation and wholeheartedly believes that people who disagree with him are cripples. Whilst brother has a unique dynamic in which he is funny, I get the feeling that ethang seriously wants to hurt me.
I mean he just called you a hell-bound atheist to your face and you have absolutely no objection to it,
He calls everyone a hell-bound atheist, as part of his true Christian identity. I think it's pretty obvious that he doesn't actually want me to spend eternity burning in a pit of fire.
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