BrotherD.Thomas

YOUR PEEING IN YOUR PANTS SCARDY CAT QUOTE: “Why would I click the link? I’m not providing you with one, I mean I could but I’d just rather quote scripture than make people blindly click links. For all I know, you could be a pedophile trying to lead me to a pornography website. How should I know? Why should I trust you, a stranger on the internet?”

Well, guess what? The link in question shows you to additionally being a Christian 2nd class woman, thats all!  Then you insidiously “slipped on your Freudian" in bringing up that said link will lead you to a pedophile pornograhy website, which explicitly shows your interest in this type of porn to begin with!  SHAME ON YOU!

Rieka, who says she doesn’t have to follow the direct words of Jesus the Christ in 1 Timothy 2:11-12 as a Bible 2nd class woman,

YOUR QUOTE REMOVING ONE FOOT FROM YOUR MOUTH TO INSERT THE OTHER: “I’m not blaspheming him and while yes, a woman should submit to her husband,” 

We thank you dear, in the respect that you AGREE that women are to submit in every way to their husbands as Jesus said in this verse:

Now, at your expense in front of the membership, when you outright agreed to Jesus’ inspired passage above, then why do you slap Jesus in the face and not follow 1 Timothy 2:11-14 as shown herewith: "Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain SILENT. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)

Dear biblically 2nd class woman, CAN YOU SPELL H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E in the name of Satan?  Sure you can Bible fool woman!  LOL!

The hell you are not preaching as explicitly shown in this thread, and as a 2nd class Bible woman per 1 Timothy 2:11-14 you are NOT TO PREACH in Jesus’ name!  

Rieka, who says she doesn’t have to follow the direct words of Jesus the Christ as a Bible 2nd class woman,

We all can see that we have to digress to addressing your “preteen” mental state status, and especially in you being a Bible 2nd class woman, therefore, I will try and use simple words and phrases so you can “almost” understand them in showing you to NOT being a Christian, okay dear?

I am not trying to make you feel ashamed dear, where in fact you being upon this Religion Forum as a female and Jesus’ inspired words are doing that for you, understand little girl? Yes? Maybe?  LOL!

Your circular reasoning in that I am a pastor goes wanting because I am not, but we understand that you have LIE to at least try to get out of your ungodly predicament in going directly against Jesus' inspired words, which is BLASPHEME!  

Now, back to the position THAT YOU ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM AGAIN, where you as a female get the authority to usurp Jesus’ inspired words in the following passage:  "Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, SHE IS TO REMAIN SILENT." (1 Timothy 2:11-12)

“EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5) Every word includes the words in 1 Timothy 2:11-12 as directly given within the scriptures, with no decoder rings or insipid apologetics needed, and no whiny little girls like you in saying you don’t have to follow God’s words as shown in said passage!

YOUR QUOTE RELATIVE TO "BEST.KOREA" THAT IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER MISS TRADESECRET IN BEING THE #1 BIBLE STUPID FOOL AT DEBATEART:  " The heathen in post 31 has challenged your authenticity and character and has also claimed that God is not a serial killer"

Best.Korea is not a TRUE Christian if he mistakenly has to proffer that Jesus, as God, is not a serial killer within the scriptures.  His Bible Duncery®️ doesn't allow him to realize this biblical axiom by Jesus, and therefore Best.Korea LIES in Jesus' name going directly against this Jesus inspired passage: "These six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:  A proud look, A lying tongue, ...." (Proverbs 6:16-17)

Best Korea has obviously never come in contact with a TRUE Christian like myself that has forgotten more about the Christian Bible than he will ever learn from it in his lifetime!  Therefore, he has to lie once again and call me an Atheist to try and change the subject in how utterly Bible Stupid he actually is, bar none!

Like my serial killer Jesus said relative to the pseudo-christian Best Korea in calling me an Atheist: "Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account." (Matthew 5:11)

Best Korea is embarrassed that Jesus and I literally "OWN HIS BIBLE STUPIDITY," and therefore has to lash out in vain like he continues to do. Truly sad on his part. 

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YOUR QUOTE OVER RIDING JESUS' TRUE WORDS:  "the bible says Jesus said some people will experience eternal punishment. i do still think though that hell can be temporary for some people."

Just where biblically do you get the authority to supersede Jesus' true words in hell being eternal? "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (Matthew 25:46)

YOUR QUOTE IN BEING BIBLE STUPID AGAIN: "I would think God wouldn't give eternal consequences for temporary misconduct"

HUH?  THINK!  If Jesus as god didn't give ETERNAL consequences in the depths of Hell, where He didn't create hell and not plan on using it, then the sinner can continue to sin with no consequences, GET IT BIBLE FOOL?

YOUR QUOTE IN SLAPPING JESUS IN THE FACE:   " .... if the possibility for eternal life for all is true,"

WHAT?!  You are questioning Jesus in the fact that "IF"eternal life is true? BLASPHEME! How bible dumb can you get?  Jesus' inspired words are as follows at your embarrassment in front of the membership: "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23)

Bible says:

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.".

YOUR RESPONSE: Now, we can only guess what it means "keep alive for yourselves".

YOUR RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE: "We can only guess what it means" isnt adding any words lol"

Oh, oh, guess what? You are therefore  blatantly guilty of what you accuse me of as shown in the link below, where you are assuming as a premise, the conclusion in which you wish to reach without any specific Bible backup to your response whatsoever! How embarrassing can you get in front of the membership?

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9424/posts/393997 

YOUR CHILD LIKE RESPONSE TO MY QUOTE ABOVE: "Show us where the Bible says that."

Conversely, show us in the Bible where my quote; "RAPE IS RAPE! Whether it be a married woman or not!" does NOT say that!

MY QUOTE TO YOUR BIBLE INEPTNESS AGAIN:  "IT IS SHOWING THAT RAPE IS WRONG by the rapist man having to marry the girl he raped!"

YOUR STUPIDITY HAS NO BOUNDS RESPONSE TO MY QUOTE ABOVE:  "That verse doesnt say that rape is wrong. Bible just says that rapist must marry his victim, which means that Bible doesnt say that a rapist cant keep raping his victim after he marries her."

BEST.KOREA, HEADS UP, it IMPLIES that it was wrong because the rapist had to marry the woman he RAPED!!! 2+2=4, oil and water don't mix, and you are as Bible stupid as Miss Tradesecret!!!

Didn't you learn from Miss Tradesecret, that when you make yourself the continued third world idiot to Bible passages, that you should take a break and go into hiding like Miss Tradesecret has to do from time to time, to save further embarrassment?  Yes?

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RAPE IS RAPE!  Whether it be a married woman or not!  Therefore the verse in question that I gave you is answering your initial question where Jesus, as God, inspired passage says to MURDER the man rapist!  GET IT? Maybe? Just a "little bit?"

YOUR SECOND QUOTE AS DUMB AS YOUR FIRST QUOTE: “ The second verse does not say that rape is wrong. It just says that the man must marry the girl he seduced.”

In the verse in question, IT IS SHOWING THAT RAPE IS WRONG by the rapist man having to marry the girl he raped!  I am showing you that Jesus’ inspired words in the Bible sometimes CONTRADICT each other, understood?  H-E-L-L-O, anybody home today, NOT!

Jesus H. Christ, truer words were never spoken by you when you said that you don’t know why the membership is still conversing with you in an intellectual discussion: “True. I dont know why people still do it.”  LOL!

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Finally, show us where the Bible says that sex with a person who cannot consent is rape."

You have to learn, that Miss Tradesecret doesn't have the recognition of being the #1 Bible Stupid and ignorant fool in this Religion Forum for nothing! Remember, she only gives "OPINIONS" and never backs them up with actual Jesus inspired passages, understood?!

Therefore, to save Miss Tradesecret further embarrassment because of her outright Bible stupidity, here are some passages showing that rape is wrong to the point of murdering the wrongdoer man and paying the going "bride price" for marriage after the rape:

As before in prayer with Jesus all the time, He wants me to correct His Bible stupid creation named "Miss Tradesecret" because it is the godly thing to do in His behalf, praise!  “Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.” (2 Timothy 4:2)

MISS TRADESECRET’S BIBLE STUPID QUOTE:  “But I reject the idea that the Bible says God hates homosexuals and rapists.”

Yes, Jesus as God, hates homosexuals to the point where his Christian followers are to enact the following against them:  "If a man also lie with mankind, As he lieth with a woman, Both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death,; their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:13)

I’ll use Miss Tradesecret’s quote to the above outcome of homosexuals, whereas; "God hates the sin, but loves the Sinner” Yes, Jesus hates the sin where the homosexual is to be murdered, but at the same time, He loves them as they are to be murdered!  Sounds reasonable!

MISS TRADESECRET OBVIOUSLY HAS TO AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING PROPOSITIONS SHE SAID TO THE THE EQUAL BIBLE FOOL“BEST.KOREA:”  “So do you think the world is flat? And that the sun revolves around the Earth? And the earth is the centre of the universe? And that there is a HELL which anyone but those born of the Spirit, through the name of Jesus will end up?”

3. Yes, the earth is the center of the universe:

4. Yes, there is a HELL:

Miss Tradesecrets lack of Biblical intellect has to understand that our Jesus as God did not, I repeat, did not create Hell and not plan on using it as Jesus supports by sending His creation to Hell in this one of many Bible passages herewith:  Jesus stated: “My friends, don’t be afraid of people. They can kill you, but after that, there is nothing else they can do. God is the one you must fear. Not only can he take your life, but he can throw you into hell. God is certainly the one you should fear!” (Luke 12:4-5)

MISS TRADESECRET’S BIBLE STUPID QUOTE AGAIN: “For God so loved the World that he gave his Only Son"... . Surely John 3:16 says the opposite of what you are saying?”

Miss Tradesecret always has a hard time with this passage relating to the Trinity Doctrine, which she was just to SCARED to debate this with me, where Jesus in being God, gave Himself as the Son of Himself to the world and died upon the cross, and was dead for ONLY 3 DAYS, and then returned to life in the resurrection. Which logically means that Jesus really DID NOT DIE for our sins in a true sacrifice because He remained ALIVE!   2+2=4.

YOUR EXPLICIT QUOTE IN YOUR POST #51 OF THIS THREAD: “Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) would not be proud of you for what you are doing right now and my case is closed to future arguments with you.

So, your case was CLOSED to future arguments with me relative to your camel humping religion as shown in your quote above?  But, you LIED in front of your camel fucker Allah God and the membership and have returned 30 DAYS LATER to get your sorry Muslim ass beaten again in front of the membership? LOL!

Firstly, what part of your Moooooslim heirarchy that tell you NOT to argue or debate your abhorred religion as shown below don’t you understand?  Furthermore, where do you get the authority to go against these Muslim Clerics that say YOU ARE NOT TO DEBATE OR ARGUE your sickening Islamic faith?

1. أَنَا زَعِيمٌ بِبَيْتٍ فِي رَبَضِ الْجَنَّةِ لِمَنْ تَرَكَ الْمِرَاءَ وَإِنْ كَانَ مُحِقًّا

"I guarantee a house on the outskirts of Paradise for one who abandons arguments even if he is right."

Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4800, Grade: Sahih

2. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُوَرِّثُ الضَّغائِنَ

"Arguing about sacred knowledge hardens the heart and produces resentment.”

Source: al-Madkhal ilá al-Sunan al-Kubrá 178

3. الْمِرَاءُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يُقَسِّي الْقَلْبَ وَيُؤَثِّرُ الضَّغْنَ

"Arguing about sacred knowledge causes the heart to harden and breeds hatred.”

4. Source: Jāmi’ al-‘Ulūm wal-Ḥikam 1/248

الْمِرَاءُ وَالْجِدَالُ فِي الْعِلْمِ يَذْهَبُ بِنُورِ الْعِلْمِ مِنْ قَلْبِ الرَّجُلِ

Disputation and arguments about sacred knowledge cause the light of knowledge to extinguish in a man’s heart."

Malik ibn Anas, may Allah have mercy on him.

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Best.Korea,

YOUR QUOTE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO "PROVE" IN THE SAME CONTEXT AS YOUR THREAD IN PROVING THAT ATHEISM EXISTS: "I understand that you are an atheist trying to make Christianity look bad by committing out of context fallacy over and over again."

To use your initial post's proposition: "So unless you can prove to me that I am NOT a True Christian that actually exists, where you continue to RUN AWAY from my Christian Bible posts to you as shown in my post #116, then the only logical thing for you to do is to believe in Atheism since you RUN AWAY from your faith, and in doing so, it doesn't exist anymore for you!  Get it Bible Dunce? Huh?

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"Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew."

"And from the midst of it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had a human likeness, but each had four faces, and each of them had four wings. Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet were like the sole of a calf's foot. And they sparkled like burnished bronze. Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. And the four had their faces and their wings thus: their wings touched one another."

"Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, wrapped in a cloud, with a rainbow over his head, and his face was like the sun, and his legs like pillars of fire."

YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE #2: "If a person is sensitive, its best to skip the Old Testament and read only the New Testament."

WRONG BIBLE FOOL! Are you willing to throw out our contradicting Creation Stories where Jesus created us and all other living life forms, and the entire universe?  Are you willing to promote that the 10 Commandments are not to be read, and therefore not to be followed?  BLASPHEME!

Furthermore, the New Testament proclaims its indebtedness to the Old Testament on the very first page. Matthew begins with an Old Testament genealogy that makes sense only to those who are familiar with the people and events to which it refers too (Matthew 1:1-17). Thus the New Testament signals at the start an engagement with the Old Testament that touches every page and makes great demands on its readers, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

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An important selection of Fatwas and Sayings of Khomeini in English is published here:

One of many abhorred sexual references within the above book is this one: "If a man who has married a girl who has not reached puberty possesses her sexually before her ninth birthday, inflicting traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act with her. If a man sodomizes the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage, the marriage remains valid."

كسيكه زوجه اى كمتر از نه سال دارد وطى او براى وى جايز نيست چه اينكه زوجه دائمى باشد، و چه منقطع ، و اما ساير كام گيريها از قبيل لمس بشهوت و آغوش گرفتن و تفخيذ(4)اشكال ندارد هر چند شيرخواره باشد، و اگر قبل از نه سال او را وطى كند اگر افضاء نكرده باشد بغير از گناه چيزى بر او نيست ، و اگر كرده باشد يعنى مجراى بول و مجراى حيض او را يكى كرده باشد و يا مجراى حيض و غائط او را يكى كرده باشد تا ابد وطى او بر وى حرام مى شود، لكن در صورت دوم حكم بنابر احتياط است و در هر حال بنا بر اقوى بخاطر افضاء از همسرى او بيرون نمى شود در نتيجه همه احكام زوجيت بر او مترتب مى شود يعنى او از شوهرش و شوهرش از او ارث مى برد، و نمى تواند پنجمين زن دائم بگيرد و ازدواجش با خواهر آن زن بر او حرام است و همچنين ساير احكام ، و بر او واجب است مادامى كه آن زنده است مخارجش را بپردازد. هر چند طلاقش داده باشد، بلكه هر چند كه آن زن بعد از طلاق شوهرى ديگرى انتخاب كرده باشد كه بنابر احتياط بايد افضا كننده نفقه او را بدهد، بلكه اين حكم خالى از قوت نيست ، و نيز بر او واجب است ديه افضا را كه ديه قتل است بآن زن بپردازد اگر آن زن آزاد است نصف ديه مرد را با مهريه ايكه معين شده و بخاطر عقد دخول بگردنش آمده به او بدهد، و اگر بعد از تمام شدن نه سال با او جماع كند و او را افضاء نمايد حرام ابدى نمى شود و ديه بگردنش نمى آيد، لكن نزديكتر به احتياط آن است كه مادامى كه آن زن زنده است نفقه اش را بدهد هر چند كه بنا بر اقوى واجب نيست . 

It is not permissible to have sexual intercourse with one’s wife before she has reached nine years of age, be it permanent or temporary marriage. But there is no problem with all other sexual pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, kissing and Tafkhiz (rubbing one’s penis against her thighs) even if the wife is still a baby being breastfed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, provided the girl is not permanently damaged. If she is, however, permanently damaged, i.e. if her urethra and her vagina, or her anus and her vagina become one, it will be permanently Haraam for him to have intercourse with her. This is however for precaution. In any case, by damaging her, the marriage does not become void, and all the laws of marriage are still applicable, meaning she will inherit from him and he will inherit from her and he can’t marry a fifth permanent wife. And he can’t marry the sisters of her, and other laws. 

It is also incumbent on him to pay her expenses, as long as she is alive, even though he divorces her, or that she marries another man. He will be still obliged to pay for the damage which is the same as blood-wit. If she is a free woman, he has to pay her half of the blood-wit of a man plus her dowry for having penetrated her. 

The Arabic word for rubbing one’s penis between the thighs of a baby is التفخيذ “Tafkhiz”.

I asked my friend Mr. Sam Solomon to help me translate this passage from Arabic. Sam is an ex-Muslim jurist. He studied Sharia for 15 years and knows Islam very well. He told me that Tafkhiz is not an invention of Khomeini or Shiite Islam, but it is part of the Islamic jurisprudence accepted by all Muslims, Shiites and Sunnis alike.

It must be said that apart from Aisha, Muhammad attempted to have sex with three other young girls, but all three screamed, and to his credit, he let them go. He also lusted after a toddler telling her mother that when she grows up and if he is still alive; he would like to marry her. Fortunately for the baby, he died before she grew up. The details of these stories are in my upcoming book “The Life of Muhammad under the light of Reason”.

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You have nothing better to do than to bring up a thread THREE YEARS AGO?!!!

YOUR STUPID QUOTE #1: "Though I could be wrong, I think that BrotherD.Thomas  is an atheist, who trolls, pretending to be a Christian, Not really worth engaging with, in my view."

As seen with your non-sequitur post, your view of me in not being a Christian is correct, whereas, I am a TRUE CHRISTIAN that follows ALL of Jesus' inspired words within the JUDEO-Christian Bible, get it?

YOUR  STUPID QUOTE #2:  "It 'is possible that they are actually a Christian, who may or may not be crazy, But their posts seem too insane, to be a genuine Christian, Unless they're crazy from nature or nurture in life."

Huh? Do you know yourself in what you are actually saying, whereas your biography you said this that is so true: "About Me: Shallow education. A bit rambly. A bit lacking in coherence at times. Generally meh. I'm usually a rather friendly and polite person I'd say, although I do have lapses on occasion."

YOUR STUPID QUOTE #3:  "Seems to me abnormal to spend this much time in character this much time trolling people.

Abnormal for me to Bible Slap Silly®️ Bible inept pseudo-christians as Jesus as God tells me to do?  No matter what "time" I do this godly act, it matters not to you because you are too SCARED to even try to correct these Bible fools, other than for you to be nothing but "flotsam" within this esteemed forum!

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