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Stephen,
It is truly hard to believe in how he/she Tradesecret can continue to make themselves present within this forum subsequent to you, me, and many others in easily making he/she the Biblical fool! Tradesecret, or he/she, has yet to realize this FACT at their continued expense, and he/she calls themselves a Christian, and laughably, a lawyer as well? NOT!
As embarrassingly shown, poor ol' he/she Tradesecret is now trying in vain to use insidious lawyer speak with me to get out of "their" ever so flustering situation of obviously having an ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery that goes directly against the word of Jesus where the proof below shows this to be true.
1. Tradesecret uses a male image
2. Tradesecret's Biography where the Gender is MALE
3. Tradesecret's Biography where the Gender is now FEMALE
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TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
YOUR QUOTE TRYING SO HARD TO GET OUT OF YOUR EMBARRASSING PREDICAMENT IN TRUE "LAWYER TALK MUMBO-JUMBO": " Oh Hello again Brother - thanks again for your delightful reply. Did I misunderstand? Sorry. I thought you were asking me how I came across as a male before - when I was unaware I had described myself that way - and in fact had not put anything into my profile and now after I put my profile up I identify as a female? Is that not what you asked me?"
You act as though everyone is as dumbfounded as you are and cannot reason regarding your embarrassing situation! Priceless! LOL. In addressing your biblical ignorance, we used the noun "he" in a generic sense to you, AND YOU NEVER CORRECTED US, that is, until you ungodly changed yourself to a "she" in your current vacant biography.
YOUR QUOTE TRYING SO HARD TO GET OUT OF YOUR EMBARRASSING PREDICAMENT IN TRUE "LAWYER TALK MUMBO-JUMBO": " Oh Hello again Brother - thanks again for your delightful reply. Did I misunderstand? Sorry. I thought you were asking me how I came across as a male before - when I was unaware I had described myself that way - and in fact had not put anything into my profile and now after I put my profile up I identify as a female? Is that not what you asked me?"
You act as though everyone is as dumbfounded as you are and cannot reason regarding your embarrassing situation! Priceless! LOL. In addressing your biblical ignorance, we used the noun "he" in a generic sense to you, AND YOU NEVER CORRECTED US, that is, until you ungodly changed yourself to a "she" in your current vacant biography.
BARRING THE FACT OF YOU USING A "MALE" PERSON IN YOUR IMAGE AREA, SIMPLY EXPLAIN THE FOLLOWING CONTRADICTION THAT YOU ARE TRYING SO HARD TO ESCAPE FROM AND THEN WE WILL GO FROM THERE, UNDERSTOOD?:
Tradesecret's Biography where the Gender is MALE
https://www.debate.org/Tradesecret/
Tradesecret's Biography where the Gender is now FEMALE
https://www.debateart.com/participants/Tradesecret
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@Tradesecret
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TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
YOUR QUOTE ADMITTING THAT YOU WERE LYING REGARDING THE WEBSITE OF YOUR DEBATE NOT WORKING CORRECTLY: "ok. If you say so. Thanks for your assistance. "
No, I don't say so, but you do with your "little girly lame excuse" as shown above! As this forum and I have seen many times, you continue to bring forth lame excuses to RUN AWAY from discussion and debate when I or others hand your Satanic ass to you relative to the JUDEO-Christian Bible. Again, you are the perfect example of what a pseudo-christian acts and looks like, therefore, with this embarrassment alone, it is truly hard to believe how you can stay at this forum in being easily owned by me and others relative to your dumbfounded attempts in explanation of the Bible.
Well, as usual, you lost another one, sorry.
IS THERE ANY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT CAN ACTUALLY ATTEMPT TO PROVE THEIR POINTS WITH FACTS INSTEAD OF HEARSAY LIKE TRADESECRET CONTINUES TO DO WITHIN THIS FORUM? LOL
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TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
YOUR CONTINUED AND EMBARRASSING EXCUSE WHY YOU RAN AWAY FROM A FORMAL DEBATE IN POST #18: "I entered the debate - I was enjoying the debate- and the site stopped working. Even now it is telling me I have debates due - despite the fact that it did not let me in and now time has run out. "
Once again, there is absolutely NO PROOF of your claim, other than your little girly excuse of hearsay! Like you have proffered before, if it isn't within the scriptures to prove a point, then it is not true: "Stephen wanted to make a point. I have only asked him to prove it from the bible. He has been unable to do so." https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4969-the-sons-of-god?page=2&post_number=26
Therefore, within the same vein as yours shown above, outright prove that the website stopped working, or forever once again be known as a continued RUNAWAY to biblical axioms where you had your Satanic ass handed to you by "WhoPutYouOnThePlanet" is said formal debate!
NO MORE "LITTLE GIRLY EXCUSES" SUBSEQUENT TO YOUR GENDER CHANGE INTO A 2ND CLASS BIBLE WOMAN, UNDERSTOOD?
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TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
YOUR RUNAWAY QUOTE #302929438583 FROM HARD FACTS: "If you recall, which I have no doubt you do, that I said my profile was as accurate as yours and ought to be considered as such."
Obviously you didn't understand my previous fact that you as a mere pseudo-christian woman now, whereas you were a superior man before, can't accept the presence of a TRUE Christian like myself, whereas I follow ALL of the Bible, and not RUNAWAY from it as you Satanically do ad infinitum, understood? Therefore, you have to come up with yet another lame "girly" excuse like you did in your insipid quote above to blatantly hide your GENDER REASSIGNMENT SURGERY AND OUTCOME OF SAME!
With me alone in easily raking you through the fire in showing you not to be anywhere close to being a Christian, and now showing the membership that you had a gender sex change, put the last candle upon the proverbial cake. Jesus wanted you to be a male at the onset of your birth, and whereas you slapped Him in the face AGAIN by turning yourself into a 2nd class woman that will NOT be going to heaven!
I will continue to bring your gender change to the forefront, therefore, you might as well address it sooner than later because my posts will once again show you to be one of the most Bible ignorant pseudo-christians upon this prestigious forum, get it? Yeah, you do.
IS THERE A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT IS NOT A RUNAWAY LIKE TRADESECRET?
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TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
YOUR PERCEIVED AND WRONGFUL NOTION: "I did nor forfeit - the site did not work. That debate site does not work. You know and I know it and everyone else knows it. LOL! "
What is LOL in your case, is the fact that nowhere within any part of that debate or comment section does it show that there was a problem with the Debate site, understand Biblical fool? Your statement above just shows the membership that you will go to great lengths to hide your complete Bible ignorance, whereas in the case in question, you forfeited round three, and why are we not surprised? Can you spell R-U-N-A-W-A-Y, sure you can! LOL
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN?
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TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
I am asking you for myself and the many members of this forum, in was there any complications in your Gender Reassignment Surgery as specifically shown as FACT in my post #17 within this thread? Yes, the long time membership remembers your sickening and ungodly sexual deviant post as an alleged "Indian," but letting that be on the wayside for now, can you tell us why you slapped Jesus in the face once again by having this Satanic gender reassignment from man to woman?
“Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
How can YOU honor Jesus with your body by changing sexual genders? Jesus obviously wanted you to be a MAN at birth (Proverbs 16:33), and then you obviously told Jesus “F*#K OFF because you changed your sexual gender from a man to a Bible 2nd class woman. Huh?
I am giving you a small chance to explain yourself in this ungodly action of yours, okay? Remember, Jesus is watching you! (Hebrews 4:13).
YOU MAY BEGIN, THANKING YOU IN ADVANCE TO SAVE YOURSELF FROM FURTHER EMBARRASSMENT:
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Stephen,
Yes, Jesus is elated that I am back at DEBATEART to go after the lost Bible inept pseudo-christians like Tradesecret, Roderick Spode, PGA2.0. et al.
You may want to address Tradesecret as a "he/she" because of my revealing and factual post #17 within your thread above, where Tradesecret started out as a man, and obviously had a Gender Reassignment Surgery operation to now become a Hell bound woman because of their gender different biographies.
The "he/she" Tradesecret is no more a Reverend, Pastor, Chaplin and criminal Lawyer, than he/she is knowledgable relative to Jesus' JUDEO-Christian Bible, which has been shown ad infinitum with our continued Bible Slapping Silly®️this biblical fool.
We must ask Tradesecret in how long their Gender Reassignment surgery was, and if there were any complications along the way, whereas removing at the time Tradesecrets male anatomy, probably took the Hubble Space Craft telescope to find said male anatomy in the first place! Furthermore, we must ask Tradescret how long it took for her to reorganize themselves in now going into the "woman's bathroom" instead of the superior man's bathroom like they did before.
I can fully see that Tradesecret didn't get any smarter regarding the scriptures since my departure and return, which not only continues to embarrass them, but also to embarrass Jesus as well, as if Tradesecrets sex change wasn't enough to disturb Jesus! "I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship." (Romans 12:1) Can you see Jesus accepting Tradesecrets Gender Reassignment body being acceptable to Him in this particular gender situation? NOT! LOL
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TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery,
YOUR HYPOCRITICAL AND LAUGHABLE QUOTE: "Don't let Stephen see your answer or he will think you are avoiding the question or worse - "running away". "
You are the last person to state that anyone is RUNNING AWAY, whereas as just one example of many, you embarrassingly RAN AWAY as shown when you had your unbiblical ass handed to you in this debate, where you forfeited in round three! As "WhoPutYouOnThePlanet" in the said debate below, myself, and many others have explicitly shown, we own your outright Bible ignorance with ease! LOL
Now, as usual, take your silence to the above RUN AWAY fact like it will take away your embarrassment above, NOT! Shhhhhhh, mums the word for you!
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Stephen,
It is quite obvious that Tradesecret is not yet comfortable with their gender change, and therefore continues to spew forth continued Bible ignorance.
In prayer with Jesus last night, He told me that He is getting truly tired of the pseudo-christian Tradesecret, and therefore wants me to point out yet another infraction that he has committed against the faith of Christianity that is shown below.
Tradesecret's Biography where the Gender is MALE
Tradesecret's Biography where the Gender is now FEMALE
Taking Tradesecrets position in deducing it to its irreducible primary, is the simple FACT that Tradesecret had a “Gender Reassignment Surgery" from a man to a Bible 2nd class woman. As you remember, if Tradesecrets utterly disgusting and admitted ungodly sexual deviancy in the past wasn’t enough to turn your stomach, then Tradesecet has slapped Jesus in the face once again by obviously changing his sex that Yahweh/Jesus gave him in the first place at birth, from male to female as explicitly shown in the aforementioned links within their contradicting biographies!
“Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
How can Tradesecret honor Jesus with his body by changing sexual genders? Jesus obviously wanted Tradesecret to be a MAN at birth (Proverbs 16:33), and then Tradesecret obviously said to Jesus “F*#K OFF because I am changing my sexual gender from a man to a Bible 2nd class woman. BLASPHEME!
Listen, we’ve all seen Tradesecrets total Bible ignorance many times before, where the both of us had to Bible Slap Him Silly®️, but with Tradesecret changing his/her gender, which is the ONLY viable conclusion to the facts herein, makes Tradesecret one of the most hypocritical to Jesus' words, and disgusting pseudo-christians DEBATEART has ever seen, bar none!
Satan is smiling in Tradesecrets behalf.
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Stephen,
Sorry to interject into your thread about John the Baptist.
As I have mentioned to the Bible disgusting woman Tradesecret, I will be off line again because I will be visiting an Indian Reservation to spread the TRUE words of Jesus the Christ, even though I do not have a reservation per se to do this biblical act, it is out in the boondocks with no cell or internet connection.
Upon my return, maybe we can discuss Tradesecrets change from a man to a woman as blatantly shown in their two contradicting biographies upon DEBATEART that I have copies of, of which, maybe Tradesecret had an ungodly sex change and therefore ruined her Temple of God's image? "Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple." (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)
I have addressed Tradesecret wholeheartedly in my untimely departure at this time in the link below.
See you on the flip side Hell bound Atheist! :)
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ADDRESSING YOUR EVER SO EMBARRASSING POST # 71, and I am sorry that it probably took you 2-3 weeks in "trying" to refute the 23 posts!
Listen dear despised woman, in all of your “assumed refutations” in numbers 1 through 18, they were as weak as you are in being a woman (1 Peter 3:7), whereas I was looking for substantial refuations and NOT MORE RUNAWAY RESPONSES, CLICHES, RAMBLING ATTORNEY MUMBO-JUMBO, AND BIBLE IGNORANCE, that you embarrassingly gave as assumed refutations, therefore your comical and severely wanting response did not count! UNDERSTOOD?
Now, I will be off line again because I will be visting an Indian Reservation, even though I do not have a reservation per se, that does not have cell nor internet connections. Consider yourself lucky in this time period in the fact that you can take a break from me making you the continued bible fool that I have shown to the membership. When I return, and along with others, you will once again be made the most ignorant Bible fool this forum has ever seen, and why you continue to show yourself herein is irrational and not logical whatsoever, but again, you are a woman that does not think properly as per the Bible and Jesus’ true words state, praise!
IMPORTANT, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION: To “try” and save yourself further embarrassment, I want you to come up with a lot of child like excuses relating to me in allegedly being away from the internet again, therefore this forum as well, okay? Being a Bible 2nd class woman as a weaker vessel (1 Peter 3:7), have a MAN help you with said excuses, okay? Now, make the excuses memorable this time, use a lot of adjectives and bold type, understood? Good!
When you perform this insidious act of yours once again, it truly shows the membership in how desparate you are that the ONLY way you can engage me, is when I am gone for awhile from this forum! LOL. You are as predictable as your blatant Bible ignorance! READY? BEGIN!
YOUR LAST WHIMPERING WOMANLY QUOTE: "I have addressed it now. Why don't we just keep it simple now."
NOT! As is shown ad infinitum, you as a woman cannot keep up with me as your superior man counterpart, therefore, I am not to be held responsible for your lack thereof, understood? How embarrassing as a mere woman would it be to come up with yet another lame excuse on your part to RUN AWAY AGAIN from me! LOL
What Jesus' inspired words within the Bible thinks of the 2nd class woman: "And when the king's decree which he shall make shall be published throughout all his empire, (for it is great,) all the wives shall give to their husbands honour, both to great and small." (Esther 1:20)
********** P.S., Tradesecret, don't think the membership is not seeing you RUN AWAY by not mentioning what Jesus' inspired words state in disparaging the female gender! Priceless silence on your part! Shhhh, mums the word uh? LOL ***********
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TRADESECRET, A BIBLE 2ND CLASS WOMAN, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
ADDRESSING YOUR WANTING POST #69 IN YOUR WISHFUL THINKING WHERE YOU CALL JESUS A LIAR: “But Jesus as an adopted son of Joseph could rightly call himself a son of David. This is the point. So your reference to Jeconiah is a red herring.
JESUS’ DIRECT WORDS STATING YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN AS YOU CALL HIM A LIAR! BLASPHEME!
"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;" (Romans 1:3).
“Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;” (Acts 2:30)
I suggest that you take a remedial Sex Education Class to understand what “made of the seed of David” and “that of the fruit of his loins” actually means, to understand that Jesus's words state explicitly what they say to become the Messiah, you bible ignorant woman fool! What did we expect from a lesser vessel woman other than more Bible ignorance? LOL
ADDRESSING YOUR IGNORANT POST #70 QUOTE: “I don't believe Mary was a Levite. If she was Jesus and his disciples would have made that claim. They did not. Hence, your last comment makes no sense.”
Your circular reasoning is duly noted as a notable fallacy, where you assume as a wishful thinking premise, the conclusion in which you wish to reach without any biblical vouchsafing! NOT! Besides; Luke 3 is Joseph’s geneolegy: “He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli ……” GET IT BIBLE FOOL? Nowhere does Luke 3:23 make any claim that this was Mary’s bloodline! To help you with your reading understanding, I suggest you take this K-12 "Reading Comprehension Class" post haste in the following link, you can thank me later:
Your existence within this forum is LAUGHABLE, but at the same time, it is needed for me to show others in what a true pseudo-christian looks and acts like! LOL
What Jesus' inspired words within the Bible thinks of the 2nd class woman: "so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored." (Titus 2:4-5)
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Stephen,
As we have unfortunately seen since Tradesecret had her "coming out party of listing her gender as a 2nd class Bible woman," in her updated biography, she has shown herself as even more biblically ignorant to Jesus' true words. Seemingly, she cannot accept her degrading womanly status that the Bible gives her, as if she has never seen the passages that I have given her that go dramatically against the woman to begin with, AND in Jesus' name, praise!
It is no wonder that she kept her true gender as a woman SILENT for so long in her bio! Wonder what made her "come out" to tell us that she was in fact a woman, where when I made male gender remarks to her on her behalf in the past, she never corrected me. Priceless. Well, as a 2nd class woman now, she will additionally be made the weaker vessel (1 Peter 3:7) along with her continued biblical ignorance. What a shame.
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TRADESECRET, A BIBLE 2ND CLASS WOMAN, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, and continually Slaps Jesus in the face,
Addressing your ever so wanting and embarrassing statements in your feeble post #32. :(
YOUR LYING STATEMENT ONCE AGAIN AS A WOMAN : "If you want to have a discussion with me - have one. Just stop with the unnecessary comments. Stop repeating your lies that I am running away."
Within the link below, it blatantly shows you have been RUNNING AWAY from my superior Biblical knowledge, plain and simple! 2+2=4, oil and water don't mix, and the reason you have to RUN AWAY from my posts to you is that you are the weaker vessel as a woman, and where the man is superior to you (1 Peter 3:7), praise!
YOUR EQUALLY EMBARRASSING AND LYING POST: "Obviously because it is now a closed link because I did not technically with the Code. But we both know it is there. And I do not believe referring to it breaches the code - but referencing it might. Who knows? “
We have seen your weak assertions many times before where you try in vain to get out of the mess you are in, but your one above takes the cake!
If you remember, our astute moderator Mr. Ragnar stated that your ever so embarrassing thread would remain to read, for obvious humiliating reasons, remember dear? Therefore, you can copy it and bring it forth in this thread to discuss, get it? Huh? Once again, your “weaker vessel” of being a woman is showing itself! (1 Peter 3:7) I will await your timely manner for you to "try" and post said thread here to discuss, since you're a woman, get help from a man to do this simple action if need be, okay?
YOU JUST KEEP BURYING YOURSELF WITH YET ANOTHER POST OF YOURS, PRICELESS: “Ok - you want to play it that way. I reject your position. Justify it. What does usurping authority mean? It is also good to see that you notice it refers to the godly man and not everybody. Thanks for the concession. I underlined your words just in case you missed it”
Obviously you don’t know how to use an online dictionary if you have to ask me what "usurping authority" is defined as, how sad. BUT, what did we expect from your weaker vessel as a woman in the first place! (1 Peter 3:7)
I simply justify the term in you being a disparaging woman as described within the scriptures, and me being a superior man over the 2nd class womanly status within the Bible, where I can’t make it simpler than that! Get it? Huh? Maybe?
Your child like and ignorant statement of “…. it is good to see that you notice it refers to the godly man and not everybody” whereas this is self-explanatory that if you were not a godly man, then the issue is MOOT! GET IT BIBLE FOOL? LOL
YOUR BLEEDING FINGERNAILS IN GRASPING FOR STRAWS QUOTE: “When the woman is learning in silence - where is she? There must be times when she is not learning but putting things into practice. And when she is teaching she is not learning. is she?
Dear, how far do you want to go in making yourself the foolish Bible woman in front of the MEN membership? Your pleading of “there must be times…” is not an absolute and you should take notice of your vacant statement. Your subsequent embarrassing quote of; “And when she is teaching she is not learning. is she?” falls flat upon its proverbial face because of the simple fact that when you go against Jesus’ words in 1 Timothy 2:11-15 as a woman, you have yet to realize that you do learn at the same time, especially when myself and others show you in how utterly Bible ignorant you are within this forum! UNDERSTOOD?
YET AGAIN YOUR QUOTE STEPPING IN PROVERBIAL POO, LOL: “And you have not shown otherwise with your cherry picking.”
As YOU being a weaker vessel in being a woman (1 Peter 3:7) you surmise that when I bring forth a disparaging passage relating to your disgusting womanly MO as the Bible fully describes, that it is cherry picking? Tell me dear, does the passage in question of 1 Timothy 2: 11-15 exist in the first place? Yes it does, and at your expense once again, therefore calling JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS AS CHERRY PICKING IS UNGODLY, HOW DARE YOU CONTINUE TO SLAP JESUS IN THE FACE!!!!
“But he answered, “It is written, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.” (Matthew 4:4)
Tradesecret, how far do you want to go in making you the weaker vessel in being the disliked by Jesus’ inspired words as a woman in this forum? Huh? Seriously, don’t you have enough egg upon your face at this time? Maybe it is time for you to take a needed break from you being shown as the #1 Bible fool and RUNAWAY of Jesus' inspired words that I have directed to you within this forum, yes?
How Jesus' inspired words within the Bible thinks of the 2nd class woman: “It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman.” (Proverbs 21:19)
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TRADESECRET, A BIBLE 2ND CLASS WOMAN, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
YOUR FEEBLE QUOTE OF BIBLE IGNORANCE ONCE AGAIN:
"So again I see you have no case at all in the Bible to prove
- Mary was a Levite
- Luke was a Jew
Both your assertions which I denied."
Addressing your post #64 as you being a disparaged Bible 2nd class woman, tell me if you've heard this adage before? " You don't get something for nothing, yes?" Therefore I will easily Bible Slap you Silly®️ and show you that Mary was in fact a Levite, and that Luke was a Jew, SUBSEQUENT to you addressing EVERY RUNAWAY POST of yours listed below that have been directed by me to you! Understood biblically disparaged woman and Bible fool?
YOU MAY BEGIN:
1. You still need to address the other half of this runaway post:
2. You haven’t addressed why you continue to slap Jesus in the face by not defending the faith to particular posts of mine that show that you should:
3. You are still running away from this post showing that Jesus did sin, where your Bible ignorance says he didn’t:
4. Because of this post saving your sorry biblical ignorant ass, you have yet to thank me:
5. We could make millions off of your complete Bible ignorance and the subsequent comedy of same, no response from you:
6. You have cowardly run away from this post to you FOUR TIMES, I REPEAT, FOUR TIMES IN YOUR THREAD, where you were wrong once again in your perceived knowledge of Jesus not interfering with the suffering of His creation, where in biblical FACT, Jesus did interfere:
7. It was blatantly shown in how utterly Bible and Zoology ignorant you truly are relative to the Noah’s Ark narrative, of which you have run away from this post:
8. YOU have sheepishly run away from this revealing post in showing exactly who you embarrassingly are in this forum, bar none, WHY?:
9. You have yet to tell us why Jesus is not flooding the world again because the sin is thousands of times greater per capita in the world now:
10. Since you remain in my thread regarding everyone is saved, even non-believers, you have run away from said topic post directed to you below:
11. Still no response from you in this running away from Jesus inspired post:
12. You never answered a simple request in how Jesus allegedly showed mercy upon innocent zygotes, fetus’ and babies by Him killing them: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4726-evidence-in-a-religious-forum?page=9&post_number=213
13. This runaway post of yours relates to you being a POE/Parody, because no true Christian would make fun of the faith like you do:
14. Here you erroneously state that Jesus is not superhuman as God, where He only created a billions of light years large universe which is in fact superhuman, LIAR:
15. You ran away from me addressing the FACT that you stated the Bible contains FICTION!
16. You have yet to address you wanting me to quit showing you to be the Bible fool upon this forum, and by telling the moderators as well, but in not addressing your runaway posts in the meantime
17. You ran away from me correcting you upon the fact that “anyone” is used by Jesus that curses their parents, and not ADULTS like you stated!
18. You RAN AWAY from me correcting you once again in relation to Jesus being the #1 Abortionist of all time! https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4827-what-should-we-make-of-the-passover-and-god-killing-his-peoples-first-born-kids?page=2&post_number=30
19. Here you ran away from me correcting you AGAIN in that you say when unlawful acts were present, it was through judges that gave the punishment, whereas you were WRONG once again as I showed you!https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4827-what-should-we-make-of-the-passover-and-god-killing-his-peoples-first-born-kids?page=2&post_number=31
20. I gave you a deal NOT to make you the complete Bible fool, but you threw it away and will not discuss why you did this!
21. You RAN AWAY from the biblical axiom that for Jesus to be the Messiah, he had to be through the fruit of the loins of King David!
22. You RAN AWAY from me “schooling” you again, this time on the topic of Jesus’ genealogies
23. You have yet to address your complete RUN AWAY status on DEBATEART religion forum!
AT THIS TIME, THE DEFEATIST TRADESECRET AS A COWARDLY WOMAN THROWS IN THE TOWEL IN DEFEAT AGAINST THE SUPERIOR BIBLE KNOWLEDGE OF BROTHER D. THOMAS, PRAISE JESUS! IT IS NO WONDER THAT JESUS SAID THE WOMAN IS A WEAKER VESSEL THAN THE MAN (1 PETER 3:7), PRAISE!
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@Tradesecret
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TRADESECRET, A BIBLE 2ND CLASS WOMAN, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
TRADESECRET, A BIBLE 2ND CLASS WOMAN, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
REPEAT #2 from not addressing my post #62!
YOUR EMBARRASSING “WOMAN” QUOTE IN POST #55: “Not true. Luke was a Gentile. There is not a scrap of evidence otherwise.”
Using your words, PROVE YOUR PROPOSITION ABOVE BIBLICALLY BEYOND ANY DOUBT! WE WILL BE WAITING!
You state that you do not RUNAWAY, but as shown in not addressing my post #62, in fact, you do RUNAWAY from proving biblically your point that Luke was a Gentile! As we are told, Jesus’ direct words in the Bible are disparaging toward your weaker gender as a woman, is this why you have to RUN AWAY from a man's post?
You continue to slap Jesus in the face just by your ungodly presence as a 2nd class woman within this Religion forum that was structured for MEN ONLY as Jesus implies within the Bible, because you are the weaker vessel in His creation, praise Jesus’ true words! “Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.” (1 Peter 3:7)
Always remember dear, this is what Jesus thinks of you being a woman because your gender is the cause of the original sin that has made Jesus’ existence miserable in having to create Hell to place the sinners within! “I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare.” (Ecclesiastes 7:26)
********** P.S., Tradesecret, don't think the membership is not seeing you RUN AWAY by not mentioning what Jesus' inspired words state in disparaging the female gender! Priceless silence on your part! Shhhh, mums the word uh? LOL ***********
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HELLO? Anyone see Tradesecret running past their house by RUNNING AWAY from my post to her listed below, and within this thread, as being a disgusting 2nd class woman as Jesus' inspired words describes women in the Bible? Anyone?
One of the members sent me this image linked below, thinking it was Tradesecret, but I told them, no, it wasn't, and this is because Tradesecret wears only YELLOW running shoes instead for obvious reasons! LOL
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TRADESECRET, A BIBLE 2ND CLASS WOMAN, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
YOUR EMBARRASSING “WOMAN” QUOTE IN POST #55: “Not true. Luke was a Gentile. There is not a scrap of evidence otherwise.”
Using your words, PROVE YOUR PROPOSITION ABOVE BIBLICALLY BEYOND ANY DOUBT! WE WILL BE WAITING!
Tradesecret, listen up Hell bound 2nd class Bible woman, it is no wonder why Jesus’ words despise your female gender, where we men who are to please Jesus are to have nothing to do with your disgusting and ungodly gender, other than to make you the Bible fools that you truly are in this forum, praise Jesus’ TRUE words listed below:
“I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare.” (Ecclesiastes 7:26)
Tradesecret, it is no wonder that you embarrassinly HID YOUR FEMALE GENDER for so long in your biography, but you made a great mistake “in coming out of the closet” to actually admit that you are a Bible 2nd class woman on this prestigious Religion Forum, just how stupid was that? You obviously don’t understand your 2nd class woman status in the Bible, but don’t worry dear, I will show what Jesus truly thinks of you being a woman, as if your Bible stupidity wasn’t enough! LOL
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TRADESECRET, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, and a Bible 2nd class woman,
YOUR COMICAL AND REVEALING QUOTE IN POST #22: “Dear Brother D Thomas, perhaps you might ponder about whether you really want me to respond to you or not?” It seems to me and I suspect to the majority of the forum site that I am not running away
WTF! LOL! Listen up Bible 2nd class woman, I have been trying to make you respond to me in the following link where you have RAN AWAY from many inspired by Jesus posts to you, as if we’re not to notice this blatant fact? Why do you make it so easy for me to show the membership in what a complete Bible fool you are as a Bible 2nd class woman, and to RUN AWAY from this fact in the link below? Please, tell me why?!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4858-josephs-two-dads?page=2&post_number=31
WTF! LOL! Listen up Bible 2nd class woman, I have been trying to make you respond to me in the following link where you have RAN AWAY from many inspired by Jesus posts to you, as if we’re not to notice this blatant fact? Why do you make it so easy for me to show the membership in what a complete Bible fool you are as a Bible 2nd class woman, and to RUN AWAY from this fact in the link below? Please, tell me why?!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4858-josephs-two-dads?page=2&post_number=31
As adamantly shown in the link above, your “seems to be and I suspect to the majority of the forum site that I am not running away” comically FALLS FLAT UPON ITS PROVERBIAL FACE! LOL! You do provide some great comedy at times, runaway Bible 2nd class woman! LOL
YOUR EMBARRASSING QUOTE WHERE YOU GOT YOUR TEATS IN A RINGER?: In fact this forum is very aware of the fact that I called you out - even devoting an entire post to demonstrate every one of your fibs to be untrue.'
Besides the fact that I now have you crawling in dismay and embarrassment because of your RUNAWAY status to my ever growing list of posts to you, that you have not answered as shown in the link above, why don’t you bring forth this alleged “Thread” that you claim is calling me out? As a Bible 2nd class woman, are you too SCARED to do so in front of the godly men within this forum? Huh? As a 2nd class woman, let's see if you can perform this simple request, shall we? WAITING!
YOUR PLEADING AND CRYING POST ABOUT YOUR UNGODLY GENDER: “You made the assertion about woman. Not me. I admit I responded - but it is clear Paul was talking to Christians within Christians circles and churches.”
No dear, Jesus’ inspired words about your 2nd class Bible status as a woman and I made this assertion, understood? Yes, Paul within the church stated specifically that YOU and other Bible 2nd class women are NOT, I repeat, NOT to teach or usurp the authority over the godly man, but to be in silence, understood? Again, what part of this passage don’t you understand since your Sister Eve is responsible for the original sin, and where you degrading womanly status began?
“ Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.” (1 Timothy 2:11-15 )
The membership and I look forward to you bringing forth the alleged thread where you called me out, and then the real fun towards you begins, hang on to your “depends” because the real action is about to start, praise Jesus revenge towards the pseudo-christian Tradesecret! WAITING, DEAR!
Jesus' inspired words regarding the 2nd class woman: "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man;
and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)
and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)
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Tradesecret, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, and being a Bible 2nd class woman,
YOUR BIBLICALLY IGNORANT QUOTE #49,239.348: “And what you seem to miss on every occasion because of your sheer cleverness is that Luke was not a Jew and was not writing to Jews. So the Hebrew Tradition in that era was not relevant. He was writing too Gentiles. So this refutes entirely your argument. Surely even you in all of your cleverness can see this?”
STOP IT, STOP IT, AND PLEASE, JUST STOP YOUR BIBLE IGNORANCE FOR ONCE BIBLE 2ND CLASS WOMAN!!!
It matters not in who Luke was writing too, but what he was writing about, do you understand Bible fool?! He was writing about JEWS through the linage of JOSEPH in Luke 3: 23-38, and NOT Mary like you Satanically propose and still laugh at! Furthermore, all Gentiles of the "circumcision" were to follow ALL Jewish traditions, and that includes the linage of their families had to be through their fathers, get it Bible 2nd class woman? H-E-L-L-O?
Furthermore, LUKE WAS A JEW to begin with and NOT a Gentile like you erroneously propose to save face within this forum. The idea that Luke was a Gentile is based on nothing more than your wishful thinking, and as usual, without substantiating your Devil Speak claim!
BIBLE CLASS 101 FOR TRADESECRET’S BIBLE STUPIDITY: Heads up, remember when Paul asks the question, “What advantage has the Jew?” His answer was “Much every way, chiefly because that unto them were committed the oracles of God” (Rom. 3:1–2). Therefore, the MAIN advantage that Paul refers too and recognizes in regards to Jesus’ chosen Jewish people above all others, was that when Jesus gave revelation as Yahweh God incarnate to the Hebrew human race, He gave it to and through the Jews ONLY, understood Bible fool?
Yahweh/Jesus DID NOT use the Gentile people in any way whatsoever for this purpose of revelation because the Jews were the vehicle for said revelation. Therefore in your embarrassing accounting of Luke allegededly being a Gentile and proffering revelation in Josephs linage in Luke 3, is once again on your part, A FARCE! Either Luke has to be a Jew to speak of revelation of Josephs linage in Luke 3, or if Luke is a Gentile like you comically propose, then when he speaks of revelation of the linage of Joseph, it is moot! Do you understand Bible fool?
Jesus' inspired words regarding the 2nd class woman: “It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.” (Proverbs 21:9)
Now, perform your usual act of RUNNING AWAY again to my biblical enlightenment to you, which will be noted in a future post, hurry, RUN, we’re all watching! LOL
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Dear Hellbound woman, where does it state that you as a 2nd class woman are not to teach believers, and in addition, and as shown, I have forgotten more about the Bible than you will ever learn, where the proof of this proposition, is that you have RUN AWAY from the majority of my posts where I have shown you to be the Bible fool! LOL
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Tradesecret, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
What part of what Paul said about Baptism didn't you understand in my post linked below within this thread, just like in the "Joe had 2 Dads" thread, where I have had to correct your Bible ignorance many times in your inept Bible understanding of certain narratives! LOL
Congratulations in actually adding to your biography page within DEBATEART where it was ZERO before, where it's at least a minimal start! Now, your problem with your gender being a 2nd class woman is troubling within a Religion forum setting. This is because of either two propositions, you have either had a sex change into a man as your moniker so concludes, or you are a woman directly. IN EITHER CASE, AND BIBLICALLY, YOU ARE NOT TO TEACH A MAN!
“ Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.” (1 Timothy 2:11-15 )
As shown in the passage above, this prohibition means women must never, ever teach men in the church, and in the same context, outside of church like this forum represents! Paul felt that because Eve was deceived, then the 2nd class women that you represent, are gullible and therefore mustn't teach men, period!
A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION OF YOURS NOW PRESENTS ITSELF, DO YOU WANT TO CALL JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS A LIE IN 1 TIMOTHY 2:11-15, AND NOT FOLLOW SAID PASSAGE ABOVE?
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Tradesecret, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
YOUR LITTLE BOY PLEADING QUOTE: “But can you please direct me to any passage that says that Elizabeth or Mary were Levites, apart from Elizabeth being married to a Levite?”
Conversely, show within the Bible that Luke 3:23-38 states with specificity that this is Mary’s geneology when it starts out as JOSEPH’S GENEALOGY! “He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli ……” (Luke 3:23). WAITING!
What didn’t you understand through Hebrew tradition in this era that the family heritage is always through the father, and NEVER through the 2nd class woman mother, therefore disqualifying Luke 3: 23-38 altogether as Mary’s genealogy! Get it, Bible fool?
“And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, by their polls.” (Numbers 1:18)
And these were they which went up from Telmelah, Telharsa, Cherub, Addan, and Immer: but they could not shew their father's house, and their seed, whether they were of Israel:” (Erza 2:59)
Oh, as if we didn’t see you RUNNING AWAY AGAIN from my posts to you that shows your biblical intellect that severly goes wanting, therefore to save you further embarrassment, I will list their links below for you to at least “try” and address them, okay? Don't you realize the membership is watching you RUN AWAY?!
^^^^^^^^^!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7ni7zL8qU !!!!^^^^^^^^^
Tradesecret, with all seriousness, are you “trying” to be the most Bible ignorant pseudo-christian in this forum, or does it just come “naturally” to you at your continued expense of shame and laughter?
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YOUR MISINFORMATION OF JESUS BEING A UNIVERSAL GOD QUOTE IN POST # 33: "So Jesus being the son of a universal god and only the adopted son of a local carpenter is surely of universal heritage...."
Jesus is not only the son of the serial killer Yahweh, but Yahweh God incarnate of the Triune Doctrine (1 Timothy 3:15-16), is presented as the God of the JEWS ONLY as a few of many passages so state:
1. Jesus stated: “You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth [Hebrews]; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” (Amos 3:2)
2. Jesus' inspired word: “a people for his own possession [Hebrews], above all peoples on the face of the earth” (Deuteronomy. 7:6)
3. Jesus' inspired word: "Above his head they placed the written charge against him: this is Jesus, THE KING OF THE JEWS." (Matthew 27:37)
4. Jesus stated: “He answered, "I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep [Hebrews] of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)
Remember, the term "Christian" is defined as a follower of Jesus who is all of the above in the passages in question stated herein.
The above direct passages showing explicitly that Jesus is the God of the Jews only, scares the bejesus out of the likes of the Tradesecrets and the equally Bible dumfounded, RoderickSpode. Whereas, you have to biblically ask them in what Jewish sect they follow to become a true Christian! What is more embarrassing for them is the deductive reasoning that if they show Bible narratives that say otherwise to the passages above, then they are showing that the Bible contradicts itself, and then you go from there in how damaging that proposition becomes!
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Tradesecret, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
Barring my continued act of showing your Bible ignorance in my posts #37 and #38 above, I know this is totally embarrassing for you as well, but you are going to have to come to terms and address the following posts that I have directed to you, and that you have RUN AWAY from since their inception. Otherwise you will continue to be known within this forum as THE NUMBER 1 BIBLICAL FOOL AT DEBATEART RELIGION FORUM! LOL
1. You still need to address the other half of this runaway post:
2. You haven’t addressed why you continue to slap Jesus in the face by not defending the faith to particular posts of mine that show that you should:
3. You are still running away from this post showing that Jesus did sin, where your Bible ignorance says he didn’t:
4. Because of this post saving your sorry biblical ignorant ass, you have yet to thank me:
5. We could make millions off of your complete Bible ignorance and the subsequent comedy of same, no response from you:
6. You have cowardly run away from this post to you FOUR TIMES, I REPEAT, FOUR TIMES IN YOU THREAD, where you were wrong once again in your perceived knowledge of Jesus not interfering with the suffering of His creation, where in biblical FACT, Jesus did interfere:
7. It was blatantly shown in how utterly Bible and Zoology ignorant you truly are relative to the Noah’s Ark narrative, of which you have run away from this post:
8. YOU have sheepishly run away from this revealing post in showing exactly who you embarrassingly are in this forum, bar none:
9. You have yet to tell us why Jesus is not flooding the world again because the sin is thousands of times greater per capital in the world now:
10. Since you remain in my thread regarding everyone is saved, even non-believers, you have run away from said topic post directed to you below:
11. Still no response from you in this running away from Jesus inspired post:
12. You never answered a simple request in how Jesus allegedly showed mercy upon innocent zygotes, fetus’ and babies by Him killing them: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4726-evidence-in-a-religious-forum?page=9&post_number=213
13. This runaway post of yours relates to you being a POE/Parody, because no true Christian would make fun of the faith like you do:
14. Here you erroneously state that Jesus is not superhuman as God, where He only created a billions of light years large universe which is in fact superhuman, LIAR:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4754-in-prayer-with-jesus-last-night-he-said-atheists-are-going-to-heaven-wtf?page=2&post_number=42 https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4726-evidence-in-a-religious-forum?page=10&post_number=237
15. You ran away from me addressing the FACT that you stated the Bible contains FICTION!
16. You have yet to address you wanting me to quit showing you to be the Bible fool upon this forum, and by telling the moderators as well, but in not addressing your runaway posts in the meantime
17. You ran away from me correcting you upon the fact that “anyone” is used by Jesus that curses their parents, and not ADULTS like you stated!
18. You RAN AWAY from me correcting you once again in relation to Jesus being the #1 Abortionist of all time! https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4827-what-should-we-make-of-the-passover-and-god-killing-his-peoples-first-born-kids?page=2&post_number=30
19. Here you ran away from me correcting you AGAIN in that you say when unlawful acts were present, it was through judges that gave the punishment, whereas you were WRONG once again as I showed you!https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4827-what-should-we-make-of-the-passover-and-god-killing-his-peoples-first-born-kids?page=2&post_number=31
20. I gave you a deal NOT to make you the complete Bible fool, but you threw it away and will not discuss why you did this!
TRADESECRET, WHAT RUNNING SHOES WILL YOU USE THIS TIME, THE “YELLOW” ONES? LOL
JESUS AND I ARE WAITING!
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POST #32, YOUR COMPLETE BIBLE IGNORANCE IS SHOWING ONCE AGAIN IN STATING MARY IS FROM THE LINE OF DAVID: “Was Mary a Levite? I have not heard this thought before. Mary however did come from the fruit of David, just from a different line than Solomon.”
You have never heard the biblical FACT that Mary was a Levite, and why am I not surprised because you have shown such biblical ignorance many times before! When you insidiously "try" and use Mary as a genealogy of Jesus, you forget that BOTH genealogies of Jesus in Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 are through Joseph as biblically shown, period! Mary in being a Levite takes her out of the consideration of Jesus’ genealogy altogether, understood, BIBLE FOOL?
Nowhere in the third Gospel, or in the entire New Testament for that matter, is there a claim that Mary was a descendant of the House of David. On the contrary, Luke plainly asserts that it is Joseph who was from the House of David, not Mary. “To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.” (Luke 1:27)
In fact, Luke claims that Mary was the cousin of Elizabeth, who he says was a descendant of Aaron the high priest, (Luke 1:5) placing her in the tribe of Levi, not David’s tribe of Judah. Moreover, in Luke 2:4, the author writes that the reason it was necessary for Joseph and Mary to return to Bethlehem was because it was Joseph, not Mary, who was from the House of David. "And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; because he was of the house and lineage of David." (Luke 2:4)
If you want to continue to be the #1 biblical fool on this forum and ignorantly state that Luke chapter 3 is Mary’s genealogy pertaining to King David, then you are more of a Bible fool than I thought you were, this is because Jewish tradition is that tribal affiliation in Jesus' time ONLY GOES THROUGH THE FATHER, and not the 2nd class woman being Mary, understood BIBLE FOOL?
“And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, by their polls.” (Numbers 1:18)
And these were they which went up from Telmelah, Telharsa, Cherub, Addan, and Immer: but they could not shew their father's house, and their seed, whether they were of Israel:” (Erza 2:59)
Trardesecret, it truly amazes me, and I am sure other members as well, in how you want to parade around in this religious forum in showing your complete biblical ignorance all the time, WHY? How many times do I have to have to easily Bible Slap you Silly®️ in front of the membership before you realize that you do not have the acumen to discuss the Bible with me? Huh? You are the true definition of a pseudo-christian, and you wear it well.
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT IS NOT AS BIBLE IGNORANT AS TREADESECRET WILL BE?
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Tradesecret, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3,
We see that your ascending testicle problem has been fixed momentarily, therefore you did find your balls and I am sure you are thanking Jesus for helping you find them, am I correct in this assumption? Obviously the answer is YES! Praise Jesus!
POST #32, YOUR CONTINUED BIBLICAL IGNORANCE QUOTE IN STATING JESUS WAS ADOPTED BY JOSEPH, THEREFORE HIS KING DAVID LINAGE, LOL!!!! : “Joseph was not Jesus' biological parent. Joseph was Jesus' adopted parent. Joseph adopted Jesus into his family. This gave Jesus all of the rights and inheritances and titles that belonged to Joseph. This is the teaching of the Bible and the teaching of Christianity. The greater point is that Jesus by being adopted into the family of David is entitled and welcome to the title Son of David.”
First thing, Joseph is Jesus’ “Step-Father” where he was not His “Paternal Father” and in no way could he adopt Jesus and fulfill the requirements for being the Messiah, understood, Bible fool? Leaving Joseph's bloodline to King David aside, which was a direct precursor for Jesus being the Messiah, Joseph could never pass to Jesus his paternal blood line in any way whatsoever because Joseph descended from Jeconiah (Matthew 1:11) and fell under the curse of that king that none of his descendants could ever sit as king upon the throne of David. (Jeremiah 22:30; 36:30).
Barring the biblical axiom above, in addition let me continue, tell the membership what don’t you understand regarding that biblically Jesus’ linage had to be DIRECTLY from the “fruit of the loins according to the flesh” of King David to become the Messiah! Since Joseph did not pass Davids’ bloodline onto Jesus because of the Celestial Impregnation, he is discarded and out of the picture, period, understood Biblical fool?
"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;" (Romans 1:3).
“Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;” (Acts 2:30)
Do I need to give you a remedial sex education class in how one passes their 'seed" line to their children, as well as me easily Bible Slapping you Silly®️ all the time?
Furthermore, are you calling Jesus’ direct words in the passages above as LIES again because you remain silent to these biblical axioms, like you have done many times before? Therefore, your inept quote above falls flat on its proverbial face AGAIN, and the irony is the fact that you do not have the sense to feel embarrassed about your continued biblical ignorance within this forum! LOL
TRADESECRET, WHEN WILL YOUR BIBLICAL IGNORANCE EVER STOP? LOL
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Tradesecret, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, and now states there is FICTION within the scriptures,
YOUR BIBLICALLY INEPT QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: “So In Matthew David's line is more pertinent to Joseph, himself - whereas Luke is about the line of humanity back to Adam - which obviously goes through Mary. “
Well, once again the membership and I can see you are still taking your “Pseudo-Christian Bible Stupid Pills” LOL
1. Relative to the genealogy of our serial killing Jesus the Christ, the book of Matthew becomes MOOT because Joseph, being from the "Fruit of the Loins" of King David, which is a prerequisite for Jesus to become the Messiah, WAS NOT Jesus' paternal father to pass this linage on to Jesus (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). GET IT BIBLE FOOL?
2. The book of Luke is also to be discarded for the same reasoning because Mary was a LEVITE and not in any way through the “fruit of the loins” of King David, as once again, is a prerequisite to Jesus being the Messiah (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30)! GET IT BIBLE FOOL? LOL
Now, if you can find your “balls” this time and quit hiding on this forum from me in front of the membership, I will engage your biblical ignorance upon the topic of Jesus’ genealogy in how it FAILS for Jesus to become the True Messiah. Unfortunately, it will be at your embarrassing expense once again, but you're used to this fact, aren't you?
BUT, first and foremost, you don’t get something for nothing, in the fact that you are to address my posts to you listed below that you have continually and sheepishly RUN AWAY from, understood? Yes? Maybe?
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1. You still need to address the other half of this runaway post:
2. You haven’t addressed why you continue to slap Jesus in the face by not defending the faith to particular posts of mine that show that you should:
3. You are still running away from this post showing that Jesus did sin, where your Bible ignorance says he didn’t:
4. Because of this post saving your sorry biblical ignorant ass, you have yet to thank me:
5. We could make millions off of your complete Bible ignorance and the subsequent comedy of same, no response from you:
6. You have cowardly run away from this post to you FOUR TIMES, I REPEAT, FOUR TIMES IN YOUR THREAD, where you were wrong once again in your perceived knowledge of Jesus not interfering with the suffering of His creation, where in biblical FACT, Jesus did interfere as I have shown you:
7. It was blatantly shown in how utterly Bible and Zoology ignorant you truly are relative to the Noah’s Ark narrative, of which you have run away from this post:
8. YOU have sheepishly run away from this revealing post in showing exactly who you embarrassingly are in this forum, bar none:
9. You have yet to tell us why Jesus is not flooding the world again because the sin is thousands of times greater per capita in the world now:
10. Since you remain in my thread regarding everyone is saved, even non-believers, you have run away from said topic post directed to you below:
11. Still no response from you in this running away from Jesus inspired post:
12. You never answered a simple request in how Jesus allegedly showed mercy upon innocent zygotes, fetus’ and babies by Him killing them: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4726-evidence-in-a-religious-forum?page=9&post_number=213
13. This runaway post of yours relates to you being a POE/Parody, because no true Christian would make fun of the faith like you do:
14. Here you erroneously state that Jesus is not superhuman as God, where He only created a billions of light years large universe which is in fact superhuman, LIAR:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4754-in-prayer-with-jesus-last-night-he-said-atheists-are-going-to-heaven-wtf?page=2&post_number=42 https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4726-evidence-in-a-religious-forum?page=10&post_number=237
15. You ran away from me addressing the FACT that you stated the Bible contains FICTION! WTF? LOL
16. You have yet to address you wanting me to quit showing you to be the Bible fool upon this forum, and by telling the moderators as well, but in not addressing your runaway posts in the meantime:
17. You ran away from me correcting you upon the fact that “anyone” is used by Jesus that curses their parents, and not ADULTS like you stated!
18. You RAN AWAY from me correcting you once again in relation to Jesus being the #1 Abortionist of all time! https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4827-what-should-we-make-of-the-passover-and-god-killing-his-peoples-first-born-kids?page=2&post_number=30
19. Here you ran away from me correcting you AGAIN in that you say when unlawful acts were present, it was through judges that gave the punishment, whereas you were WRONG once again as I have shown! https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4827-what-should-we-make-of-the-passover-and-god-killing-his-peoples-first-born-kids?page=2&post_number=31
20. I gave you a deal NOT to make you the complete Bible fool, but you threw it away and will not discuss why you did this!
Tradesecret, as I have stated to you before, this is a religion discussion forum, and NOT a runaway from religious discussion forum, understood Bible fool?
AT THIS TIME, THE DEFEATIST TRADESECRET COWARDLY THROWS IN THE TOWEL IN DEFEAT ONCE AGAIN AGAINST THE SUPERIOR BIBLE KNOWLEDGE OF BROTHER D. THOMAS, PRAISE JESUS !!!
Shhhhh, where will TRADESECRET HIDE this time? LOL
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Doc,
YOUR SAD POST QUOTE: "how ya doing brotherd?"
OMG! I can see that you too have gone to Tradesecrets School of Running Away from Biblical Axioms and to try and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath! Can you tell us in how much Tradesecret is charging you for these Satanic on line classes? I have an individual pseudo-christian that I am trying to get this information from, but he is holding off for a payout! Can you believe this?
Don't worry, like you have done to my post #18, ol' Tradesecret has RUNAWAY from me many times as I have explicitly and embarrassingly shown in this forum, where he presents himself as such an easy target to Jesus' TRUE words. LOL
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Stephen,
YOUR REVEALING AND HONEST QUOTE: "I think we can safely say that Jesus was conceived out of wedlock:"
You are correct, When Ragnar and I accept that Jesus is Yahweh God incarnate (1 Timothy 3:16, and the Trinity Doctrine) then in the Virgin Birth scenario, Jesus “spiritually celestially impregnated” his own mother Mary through godly incest. When Jesus did this act, He not only became Mary’s son, but his own Father as being Yahweh/God incarnate AND a bastard child through true Hebrew tradition because Joseph was not the paternal father!!!
What a predicament to build the Christian faith upon. As if Joseph having two distinct fathers, and the complicated and comedy ridden Creation narrative wasn't enough, oh my. :(
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Mr. Ragnar,
YOUR QUOTE GOING AGAINST READING THE BIBLE LITERALLY: “Adding approximately 2000 years from Jesus' existence to today... This presents two problems for a true biblical literalist:”
Your link that you gave refers to apocalyptic events, which is NOT the topic at hand, besides, it shows 2100 years from Jesus’ death using CE, until the present day in 2020. Whereas we’re looking for years from Jesus’ existence back to Adam, and then adding years subsequently to Jesus’ death to the year 2020.
YOUR QUOTE: “Adding years since Jesus?! What kind of travesty is that. Where in the bible does it indicate that years occured afterward?”
There is absolutely no travesty in adding years subsequent to our serial killing Jesus’ death between AD 30 and 33, which is from Jesus’ death up until now in the year of 2020 with using the Julian Calendar, and subsequently the Gregorian Callander.
If you can remember, years were mentioned by Jesus in the very beginning in our two contradicting Creation narratives, instead of afterwards like you proffered, as the following passages so state:
And God (Jesus) said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,” (Genesis 1:14)
“This month shall be for you the beginning of months. It shall be the first month of the year for you.” (Exodus 12:2)
Mr. Ragnar, do you want to say that Jesus is wrong in mentioning the passages above that state seasons, days and years, no matter if it was before or afterwards like you requested? This would be calling Jesus a LIAR, which is committing the Unpardonable Sin, like Tradesecret has done many times at his expense of NEVER seeing heaven!
Getting back to the main topic after a brief turn off the road, the JUDEO-Christian Bible’s genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 from Jesus back to Adam, and subsequently, from Jesus’ death up until 2020, states that man, earth, and the universe are approximately 6000 years old, period. Again, do you want to call Jesus’ inspired words and the simple math of addition a LIE?
I can only assume that you will be addressing the rest of my questions to you in my posts #19 and #20, where you have yet to even scratch the surface, agreed? Thank you!
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Within the same vein as everyone is going to heaven, even the Atheists, that I proposed in this link: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4754-in-prayer-with-jesus-last-night-he-said-atheists-are-going-to-heaven-wtf, the use of the pagan ritual of water baptism is not needed anymore because as Paul stated: "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:13)
Paul describes that every believer is spiritually baptized into one body because every Christian has God's Spirit within them. Therefore, on Sunday mornings, TRUE Christians like myself don't have to listen to crying and choking babies being submerged into water that is not warm enough for them, praise Pauls' direct words!
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Mr. Ragnar,
YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR POST #16: “The miracles of Jesus could likewise be explained away if you just add a bunch more words that aren't in the bible. You've got to be able to read the bible with a consistent standard, not applying special pleading willy nilly.”
Lest you forget, creating miracles was not that big of a thing to begin with in the time of our King of the Jews ONLY Jesus, because many besides Jesus were creating miracles within the scriptures. A few examples of this proposition are as follows;
“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.” (John 14:12).
Mr. Ragnar, how can Jesus' creation do miracles greater than Jesus did like He proffered in the verse above, like for instance, how can anyone do a miracle greater than when Jesus drowned the entire world and murdered innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies as He watched? (Hebrews 4:13)
Furthermore, the Apostles were creating miracles when witnessed healing the blind (9:17-18), the paralyzed (9:33-35), the lame (14:7-9), the possessed (16:16-18), and even a man with severe diarrhea (28:7-8). Hell, the Apostles were creating miracles for jailbreaks in going against man’s laws, praise! (5:17-25; 12:5-11; 16:25-30)
“And Jesus answered them, “Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ it will happen.” (Matthew 21:21).
Would you argue for Jesus’ literal words in this passage that what He stated is true in all respects? Would you be willing to put this verse stated by Jesus to a test? Please, do not use the old ruse of the biblical adage: “do not put God to a test” (Matthew 4:7), because in this instance, you would be calling Jesus a complete LIAR and committing the dreadful Unpardonable Sin! :(
Mr. Ragnar, I know where you think I am going with you, but don’t worry, I WILL NOT put you on the spot this time with proving to yourself and the membership that you truly believe in Jesus by actually doing what Jesus says you can do in the following passage:
JESUS SAID: “And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” (Mark 16:17-18)
Mr. Ragnar, do you think that when pseudo-christians actually follow this passage where Jesus explicitly states, in part, that a pseudo-christian can drink poison and handle rattle snakes, and if they die because of Jesus' words, obviously because they truly did not believe in Him, do you think that Jesus should be held culpable for these painful deaths of His followers? Yes or No, and without Satanic apologetic spin doctoring?
Mr. Ragnar, I know I am speaking for the membership in saying that please DO NOT take a manly pseudo-christian position and partake in drinking a can of Drano as poison to prove to us that you truly believe in Jesus as the passage above so states, okay? This is because if you did, and it didn’t work out and you died, not only didn’t you truly believe in Jesus as the passage so states, but more importantly, we would lose our number 1 Religion forum moderator! Get it? *Cough* LOL. You can thank me later.
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Ragnar,
YOUR QUOTE THAT COULD HAVE REALLY GOTTEN OUT OF HAND IN YOUR POST #4: “It differs going forward or backward as to who Joseph's daddy was. Luke also traces the exact number of generations back to Adam, but that's not an issue here.”
Thank Jesus that this biblical axiom is NOT the issue here like you stated, whereas the genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 goes from Jesus back to Adam, a period of approximately 4000 years in generational time spans. Adding approximately 2000 years from Jesus' existence to today, this totals out that the creation of man AND the entire universe is only approximately 6000 years old! “And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD of God.” (Luke 4:4)
Ragnar, I know I am preaching to the choir with you, but as if Joseph having 2 distinct fathers wasn’t enough to try and contend with, and again, the Celestial Impregnation narrative complications and comedy, imagine us conversing about man, universe, and the entire existence of the earth as it is now, being only approximately 6000 years old! Notwithstanding, dinosaurs existing in this time period as well! Wouldn’t you agree? We escaped another big embarrassment on this biblical axiom, didn't we?
YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR POST #16: “It would apparently be a sin to add words to such a perfect book, besides once you get into explaining away such miracles as two genetic fathers, why stop there?”
Ragnar, subjectively, you need to speak in absolute terms when referencing the Bible as Jesus would expect you to, whereas your quote of "It would apparently be a sin to add words to such a perfect book ....," but it is not "apparently a sin," but it is a sin if one adds or takes away Jesus’ inspired words within the JUDEO-Christian Bible, and the ramifications thereof: “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.” (Revelation 22:18-19)
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Doc,
YOUR QUOTE: "oh well, these supposed errors are always brought up"
They are not "supposed" errors because the fact remains that the scriptures state in no uncertain terms that Joseph had 2 fathers, period! What bothers me is the biblical fact that Jesus wrote the scriptures to begin with (2 Peter 1:20-21), so what the Hell was Jesus thinking about in this respect? We can only proceed in what the Bible literally states in this situation, where no crystal balls, decoder rings, Satanic apologetics, etc. need to be used. Agreed?
Therefore, Joseph had two fathers because the Bible says this to be true: “And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD of God.” (Luke 4:4 )
What makes this even worse for the TRUE Christian like myself, or even you pseudo-christians as well, is the fact that the Atheists like to bring forth these blatantly disturbing passages, and with the logic and reasoning that Jesus has genetically given us, we still can't explain this Joseph having 2 fathers, and many other equal scenarios, away and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath. Case in point, Tradesecret and RoderickSpode tried in vain to explain away biblical contradicting narratives, and seemingly they are now gone to save themselves further embarrassment subsequent to myself and many other astute members within this forum in Bible Slapping them Silly!®️
They are not "supposed" errors because the fact remains that the scriptures state in no uncertain terms that Joseph had 2 fathers, period! What bothers me is the biblical fact that Jesus wrote the scriptures to begin with (2 Peter 1:20-21), so what the Hell was Jesus thinking about in this respect? We can only proceed in what the Bible literally states in this situation, where no crystal balls, decoder rings, Satanic apologetics, etc. need to be used. Agreed?
Therefore, Joseph had two fathers because the Bible says this to be true: “And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD of God.” (Luke 4:4 )
What makes this even worse for the TRUE Christian like myself, or even you pseudo-christians as well, is the fact that the Atheists like to bring forth these blatantly disturbing passages, and with the logic and reasoning that Jesus has genetically given us, we still can't explain this Joseph having 2 fathers, and many other equal scenarios, away and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath. Case in point, Tradesecret and RoderickSpode tried in vain to explain away biblical contradicting narratives, and seemingly they are now gone to save themselves further embarrassment subsequent to myself and many other astute members within this forum in Bible Slapping them Silly!®️
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Stephen,
It pains me to see all of these explicit contradictions within the scriptures, especially since they were ALL inspired by my serial killing Jesus the Christ (2 Peter 1:20-21) As I have alluded too, it is embarrassing enough to try and explain the"Celestial Impregnation" of Mother Mary, and then to read all of these other biblical narratives that fall to more embarrassment, I sometimes wonder WTF! :(
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Ragnar,
YOUR UNBIBLICAL QUOTE: “Assuming there was no error, not even by ambiguity, what does it mean that Joseph literally had two fathers?”
ASSUMING there is no error within the JUDEO-Christian Bible?! Huh? BLASPHEME!
“Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5) Every word includes the biblical axiom that Jesus’ “step-father”Joseph had two fathers, period.
The book of Matthew says a guy named Jacob was Josephs father: “and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.” (Matthew 1:16)
Then we have the book of Luke contradicting Matthew in saying that Joseph's father was Heli: “Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli.” (Luke 3:23)
Listen, as if the "Celestial Impregnation" of Jesus wasn’t embarrassing enough to a TRUE Christian like myself, the biblical axiom of Joseph having two different fathers is a followup of embarrassment, of which I am sure you would agree!
Since the scriptures are inspired by our God Jesus (2 Peter 1:20-21), then by Joseph having two different fathers cannot be a lie, and barring the further complications of who the actual mother was that gave birth to Joseph, only complicates the matter. After the dust settles on this proposition, should pseudo-christians be so upset with the possibility of two gay men taking care of the child Joseph as he grew up? Or, the unnamed women taking on this position that had to sleep with both Jacob and Heli, where the ramifications of this incident is even more embarrassing and disturbing! "Cough."
YOUR QUOTE OF “HUH?”: Because another way it could work, is if gay men impregnated each other back then.”
I would appreciate it if you could get a hold of me post haste to share whatever type of “Mary Jane” you are smoking in being able to proffer such a statement, thank you.
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Stephen,
I am sure you've noticed that absolutely NO pseudo-christians have entered your thread showing that the JUDEO-Christian Bible blatantly, and without question, contradicts itself into smithereens! The reasoning behind this visual fact, is probably because these said pseudo-christians have severe back pain in them bending over for Jesus to the extreme to try and remove disturbing biblical axioms. Therefore, they can't afford the extra pain in bending over for Jesus in your thread as well in trying in vain to explain away the cartoon characters biblical contradictions! Can you imagine the Chiropractic expenses that these pseudo-christians have per month, where Tradesecet alone should be in the thousands of dollars!
Like I have said ad infinitum, as a TRUE Christian, I've learned to just accept that the JUDEO-Christian Bible and faith is loaded with irreversible contradictions, and just move on the best way that I can without making a mockery of Jesus' inspired words that contradict themselves.
Great REVEALING initial post and comical link, to say the least. LOL
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Deb,
YOUR DULY NOTED QUOTE IN POST #68: "No Homosexual animals. "
Your notion would definitely screw up the "being fruitful and multiplying" proposition! Since gay animals do exist in the wilds, Jesus had to make them this way from the beginning, just like He did with His human creation in making a percentage of them gay as well, because EVERYTHING was created by Jesus in being the HEBREW Yahweh God incarnate.
Here I thought that the comedy of this thread topic couldn't get any funnier when the Bible inept Tradesecret stated that "infants" instead of "adult animals" were placed upon the ark, then you come in with this quick zinger relating to gay animals are not to be placed on the boat, it was priceless! LOL
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3RU7AL,
Uh, what part of "Shhhhhhh" didn't you understand?
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3RU7AL,
YOUR I DON'T GIVE A DAMN QUOTE: "Your ad hominem attacks are uninspired."
Tell me if you've heard this adage before that relates to you, "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one but they think each others stink." Yes? Good.
My godly attacks upon the Bible inept pseudo-christians need not be "inspired" nor "uninspired" to get their point across, understood? Thank you.
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@Tradesecret
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Stephen,
YOUR TRUTHFUL QUOTE REGARDING THE #1 BIBLE INEPT FOOL TRADESECRET: "Indeed Brother. Crickets from the man that oft proudly brags " I always support my claims with evidence". "
As the true modus operandi of Tradesecret comes to the forefront in what he thought he knew, but didn't, WE easily Bible Slap him Silly®️ now to the point where he has to remain silent to save himself any further embarrassment! We've seen this COWARDLY act by Tradesecret before in having to take this ungodly stance because his losses in discussion were mounting to unbearable pressure, therefore, to prevent his further losses, Tradesecret has decided just to remain silent. Priceless admittance to his complete Bible ignorance!
Tradesecret and RoderickSpode have gotten together to remain silent to our superior biblical knowledge and are now following this Jesus inspired passage: "Even a fool is considered wise when he keeps silent, discerning when he seals his lips." (Proverbs 17:28) The "fool" part is self-evident, and the "discerning" part is to prevent this Satanic duo from being further embarrassed by the both of us relating to their faith!
Shhhhhh, keep this under the table, but I have been emailed by a former friend of Tradesecret that is thinking about sending me pertinent information about Tradesecrets new Bible School entitled: "How to Run Away from Disturbing Biblical Axioms and to try and remain Intelligent Looking in the Aftermath." Obviously the equally Bible inept RoderickSpode is taking this class that Tradesecret is offering, so I'll let you know if this individual comes forth with this ungodly schools information.
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3RU7AL,
YOUR WEAK AND WE DON'T CARE QUOTE: "COERCION is rarely an effective rhetorical tactic."
My truthful statement wasn't meant to be coercive, but only to remind the Bible inept RoderickSpode that his RUNAWAY MO in his own thread is totally embarrassing! LOL
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Tradesecret, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, and now states there is fiction within the scriptures!
YOUR ALLEGED TRUTHFUL QUOTE: "I have to run away for a couple of days. I need to prepare a funeral for one of my congregation - talk to the family, and the funeral parlour, organise the service, write a message, help deal with grieving people. After that I will be back and return to our topic. Please keep your thoughts in mind. Cheers. "
At least you used the correct term in RUNNING AWAY, like you have done to my Jesus inspired posts ad infinitum of late. Hmmm, I remember me telling you that I had to conduct some business that took me away from this forum, and where you blatantly called it an excuse to leave our discussion, remember? Therefore, within the same context, I blatantly see that secularmerlin is OWNING YOU in your discussion with him, therefore you now are doing what you accused me of in another thread! 2+2=4. LOL
Furthermore, why are there allegedly "grieving people" since this lost one is supposed to go to heaven, correct? Why would anyone be grieving, whereas they should be joyful in the fact that the loss of the person in question is now walking around our 1400 square mile heaven with its 60 foot high walls for ETERNITY with Jesus, whereas the additional caveat is the biblical fact that there is NO WOMEN in heaven!
Tradesecret, listen, you do not have to address this post of mine to make you further embarrassed by trying to do so, okay? In this way, it shows the forum that you have taken a cowardly defeatist position and thrown in the towel of complete defeat to your superior Brother D. Thomas. I'll have my secretary just add this one and all future runways of yours to my existing and ever growing runaway posts of yours. I will have her update them, then showing them to you at certain intervals in front of the membership in total and complete embarrassment for you. You can thank me later.
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT DOESN'T RUN AWAY LIKE TRADESECET FROM JESUS' TRUE WORDS?
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@RoderickSpode
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RoderickSpode,
Barring the FACT that you embarrassingly run away from my Jesus inspired posts to you in other threads, WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING FORTH OLD TESTAMENT NARRATIVES?!
The majority of the Bible inept pseudo-christian crowd like you always purport that the Old Testament is done away with, and that you do not have to read from it anymore, remember? "In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." (Hebrews 8:13)
If you're going to keep giving the membership Old Testament narratives that are obviously worthy to you, then why don't you bring forth some of these passages as well that show our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, who He truly is:
Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate stated: “I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh during the stress of the siege imposed on them by the enemies who seek their lives.” ( Jeremiah 19:9) Jesus made His Jewish creation eat their children? WTF?!
Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate inspired words stated: “And the man that committeth adultery with another mans wife even he that committeth adultery with his neighbors wife the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death” (Leviticus 20:10). Jesus said adulterers should be murdered? Really?
I know, you will have to RUN AWAY from this post to you as well in front of the membership, but, what does that say about your faith when you RUN, where you are too embarrassed about it to respond to my biblical posts? Pseudo-christians like you are such easy targets to biblical axioms, but unfortunately at your embarrassing expense!
++++++ Oh, forgot, when do you graduate from "Tradesecrets School of Running Away from Disturbing Biblical Axioms," and trying to remain intelligent looking in the aftermath? Will you invite members of this forum to your graduation party? +++++++
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TRADESECRET, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, and now states there is fiction within the scriptures!
As I have mentioned before, I am very busy in spreading the TRUE gospel of Jesus Christ, therefore, I have had to hire a secretary to keep track of all the Jesus inspired posts that I have given you, AND, that you have blatantly RUN AWAY from!
Therefore I am going to give you one last chance to address the following three posts to you within this thread that easily make you the continued biblical fool that you are. If you do not address them, then it only proves YOUR DEFEATIST COWARDLY ACTION OF THROWING IN THE TOWEL OF DEFEAT AGAINST YOUR SUPERIOR BROTHER D. THOMAS, PRAISE JESUS!
Tradesecret, remember, this is a discussion forum on religion, it is NOT a RUNAWAY from discussion forum on religion, GET IT?
Still SCARED in front of the membership? LOL
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@Stephen
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Stephen,
YOUR QUOTE TO THE BIBLICALLY IGNORANT TRADESECRET: " But it does mean "children" all the same doesn't it? No matter how much you attempt to determine it to mean a "child" of adult age and make believe that the "offence" actually means to threaten to kill ones parents. So again, it is something the scriptures doesn't even mention. This is what you have claimed >> " It is effectively a death threat" #26. Yet the only one issuing death threats towards anyone anywhere , is the threats your god clearly makes towards children!"
Barring the fact that I made Tradesecret the continued biblical fool that he is upon your statement above in my post #29 above, lest you forget, not only did my serial killing Jesus make commanded death threats towards children, IT IS TRADESECRET THAT SAYS THAT CHILDREN THAT CURSE THEIR PARENTS SHOULD BE MURDERED!
Tradesecret Quote: “And I would think that if people do curse their parents - unless there is a jolly good reason to do so - then they should be put to death.”
The above quote is shown 12 paragraphs down in Tradesecrets following link below:
Furthermore, as we can see, Tradesecret is still wearing his YELLOW running shoes so as to not address my posts number 29,30, and 31 in this thread that make him the embarrassing and stupid Bible fool that he is. Whats new? NOTHING! He is such an easy target! LOL
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@RoderickSpode
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RoderickSpode, equal to Tradesecret's runaway modus operandi,
Okay, you have had 4 days subsequent to my biblically correct post showing that the Bible is outright racist, and so is our serial killing Jesus as well being Yahweh God incarnate, and which goes against your initial thread post. Therefore I am sure you are ready to converse upon my post #33 by now. Correct? Thus far, you have been running away from biblical axioms from me in other threads as well, and I am sure you don't want to run away from my post that addresses your topic at hand IN YOUR OWN THREAD, do you? How embarrassing would that be, huh? LOL
Here is the post in question: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4515-scientific-racism?page=2&post_number=33
If you RUN AWAY from said post above this time, does that mean that you haven't completed Tradesecrets "Running away from biblical axioms class" at this time, and you still have more studies from Tradesecret to finish in getting a passing grade?
Jesus, the membership that is watching, and myself will be waiting for you to engage to save YOU any further embarrassment upon this forum.
Thanking you in advance.
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