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@Dr.Franklin
Dr. C&P Franklin,
Get to the point, how long and wide was Noah's ark?!
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@Stephen
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Stephen,
YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE: "I believe there may well have been more that one."
Where in the Hell do you get the authority to promote that there were more than one Ark???! Jesus' inspired words state with specificity the following: "Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch." (Genesis 6:14)
In the passage above, do you see the plural in Arks as in more than one? NO YOU DO NOT! Therefore, you DO NOT know more than Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate, understood?
Your Satanic ways will not go unnoticed!
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@disgusted
disgusted,
What Christian on DebateArt worships ZEUS? All I stated is that He was the strongest God over all other Gods, get it, fool?
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@disgusted
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disgusted,
YOUR RIGHTFUL QUOTE TO DR. C&P FRANKLIN: "You don't know anything."
DUH! Dr. C&P Franklin is either a poe to show how stupid Christians can be, or he is a minion of Satan sent here to show how stupid Christians can be. Either way, he is a blatant unadulterated fool that is easily bible-slapped ad infinitum at his expense.
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@Mopac
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Deb-8-a-bull,
Yes, send un reportable CASH to the Catholic, Antioch, etc. churches post haste, so they can buy more solid god crosses for their Pope to hold, and purchase more KKK Grand Dragon clothing attire for the bishops of the church of Antioch, as millions are starving throughout the world, as if Jesus was not listening to the many prayers tossed to Him upon high in eliminating starvation!
Like the ever so inept Mopac postulates, I am supposed to need a church to indoctrinate me in using the latest apologetic decoder ring to spin doctor Jesus' words away from showing that He was EVIL, NOT!
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR CONTINUED EMBARRASSING QUOTES: "You don't know Christ. There isn't an ounce of love in you.
That is why, in your pride, you take yourself as being lone wolf Christian rather than following the direction of the Apostolic Church. You can't get along in church.
I know more about Jesus Christ than you will EVER ACCEPT about Him in your lifetime! As an example within this thread, Jesus was in fact EVIL in blatantly murdering innocent zygotes, fetus,' babies, and children in His Great Flood, no matter if they were born in sin or not like you proffered before, PERIOD! Logic 101 and rational thinking deduces this FACT beyond any vain argument of yours, do you understand? TRUE Christianity verses your Satanic interjections in making Jesus Christ in something that He was not will not be condoned by me whatsoever!
Speaking of me allegedly not having an ounce of love in me, then in turn, JESUS DID NOT HAVE AN OUNCE OF LOVE IN HIM AS HE MURDERED INNOCENT BABIES IN HIS GREAT FLOOD AS HE WATCHED!
I take pride in not being "spoon fed" my Christianity by one of the many DIVISIONS of churches of our faith. Where you on the other hand, look up to bishops that look the way they do in your Satanic Antioch Church by appearing to be Grand Dragons of the KKK! Furthermore, only the totally inept like yourself need to be taught their Christianity by smelly old men, as they brain wash and indoctrinate you to be able to act like you do within this forum, which is a FAKE FOOLISH MINION OF SATAN!
No, I don't need a crystal ball, or a decoder ring to understand what Jesus taught LITERALLY within the scriptures, but only low IQ FAKE Christians like you need to be led around with a hook in your mouths saying; "Yes Mr. Bishop, what should I believe next about Jesus because I can't learn on my own about him, please tell me, I am a fool and can't do it myself?"
Comically, YOU, Dr. C&P Franklin, and the ever so dumbfounded Melcharaz, all seem to be vying to be the most stupid and ignorant FAKE Christian on DebateArt! Congratulations, you seem to be out front in this endeavor. LOL
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@Dr.Franklin
Shhhhhhhh, Dr. C&P Franklin is still running away from my #24 post to him for obvious reasons of total embarrassment, AGAIN! Shhhhhhh.
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR MOST IGNORANT QUOTE TO DATE: "There is no such thing as a lone wolf Christian."
OMG, you continue to show us your unbelievable ignorance regarding TRUE Christianity! When will you ever stop embarrassing yourself on DebateArt by making yourself an outright fool for Satan all the time?!
Listen up, FOOL, Christianity is a way of life, just as preached within the scriptures. I don't need the church hierarchy spin doctoring Jesus' words, LIKE YOU DO ALL THE TIME, AND RUNAWAY FROM, because it is very simple to read Jesus' literal words alone and follow them without an insidious decoder ring. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? And thus in Christianity, for one to have eternal life, one has to believe in Christ, as in following and doing what He preached with His own mouth when He walked as a man in flesh.
All one needs is the following passages without one of the many DIVISIONS of a church, that you comically attend.
Luke 10:25-37….."What is written in the LAW?"... “Do this and you will live.”
Mark 12:28-34…..There is no commandment greater than these…..
Matthew 22:34-40….All the LAW and the Prophets hang on these two commandments
Matthew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the LAW and the Prophets.
John 13:34-35 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
John 14:15 If you love me, obey my commands.
John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.”
What is so sad for you and this forum, is the fact that you don't have the sense to feel embarrassed regarding your minion of Satan status, whereas you feed upon it all the time.
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@Melcharaz
Melcharaz,
YOUR SATANIC QUOTE: "get behind me satan, your time is not yet and my time is now. for it is day and the night comes when no man can work. Do not hinder me from my work anymore. I rebuke you in the name of jesus and you will not speak to me through this vessel anymore."
You are one of the most FAKE Christians in DebateArt! Your "work" consists of RUNNING AWAY from Jesus' true words, like I have shown this forum ad infinitum. Look at you, being disrespectful to our Jesus by NOT CAPITALIZING the first letter of His name. Despicable!
In the name of Jesus, I will continue to correct your Devil Speak because it is my duty to do so, as Jesus' inspired words state in the following passage, understand? "We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ," (2 Corinthians 10:5)
You have easily been shown to be a minion of Satan in this forum, whereas the Devil must be so proud of you at the expense of Jesus!
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@Mopac
Mopac,
YOUR QUOTE: "You can't even tell me what church you go to."
I do not need a Jewish Temple to worship Jesus, since He was only sent for the Jewish people and none other. Therefore, I worship Jesus on my own, along with correcting Satanic fools like you on a weekly basis. Get it?
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@Melcharaz
Melcharaz,
YOUR COMICAL QUOTE: "more wind to blow and less substance. The hypocrite shall not stand."
Uh, since you brought up "less substance," I have never seen such LESS SUBSTANCE than your pitiful RUN AWAY quote in the thread below, where you could no more defend our faith than the equally dumbfounded Mopac and Dr. C&P Franklin!
POSTS #47 AND #48: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2165/true-christians-have-to-accept-that-our-jesus-as-god-was-evil?page=2
You don't mind if I continually correct your Devil Speak, do you? Don't worry, I will not charge you for your blatant ignorance, I consider it my duty in the name of Jesus to show that some of His followers are outright fools in the name of Satan!
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Doc C&P Franklin,
ANOTHER EMBARRASSING QUOTE OF YOURS: "I think your mixing up Heaven and The Kingdom of God"
YOUR TOPIC OF THIS THREAD: "The Kingdom of God is not a place, It's actually God ruling over our hearts!"
Once again, you show your total ineptness in front of the members. Do I have to do the simple math for you above, in showing you the blatant contradiction in terms? Huh? GET IT? YES?
Doc, there should be a "live" test of logic101 to anyone that wants to join DebateArt, therefore it would prevent in having to let your 'kind of incompetence" in this forum!
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@zedvictor4
zedvictor4,
YOUR QUOTE: " Unless the Big Guy should happen to stick his out head from behind the cloud that he's hiding behind and politely introduce himself."
What has always embarrassed me about being a TRUE Christian, is the fact that our Yahweh/Jesus/Spirit God verbally communicated with his Hebrew following all the time within the scriptures. Now, in 2019, He remains as silent as a church mouse. I wonder why? :(
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR LAME QUOTE AGAIN: "You are no Christian."
How many Times do I have to bible slap you within this forum, in showing that I am more of a Christian than you will ever be in your lifetime? Huh? I have lost count of you RUNNING AWAY from me by using actual bible axioms that you remained silent upon! And you have the audacity to call yourself a Christian? What a complete joke you are within this forum, you are Christian in name only, because you could no more debate the topic of this thread, anymore than the equally dumbfounded Melcharaz could, period!
Now, move along with your continued Devil Speak, and I will continue to correct you at your expense, understood?
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@Dr.Franklin
Doc C&P Franklin,
YOUR EMBARRASSING QUOTE: "God is real, you think everything happened by chance "
You are correct, Allah is in fact real, praise!
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@Melcharaz
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Melcharaz,
YOUR PITIFUL AND EMBARRASSING RUNAWAY QUOTES: "your words are empty, there is no reproof against what i say, only a desire to stir up evil. you are decieved and your heart hardened that you cannot discern truth. You must repent or you will be as darkness. Now, if you wish to actually use scripture and try to converse like an adult, reword your... statements. and give me scripture or greek to back up your words.
Huh? The above is your weak response to me making you the FAKE Christian fool that you are? No rebuttals to the verses that I have shown you that make you look like a child trying to be a Christian? Are you that embarrassed in front of DebateArt to not even try in vain to respond to my posts about our Jesus the Christ being EVIL with actual logical conclusions? Did you think that everyone in this forum was as dumbfounded as you, therefore, you didn't think that you would be stopped so easily with your Devil Speak? Is that it? LOL!!!
I have seen so many FAKE Christians like you over the years, that when confronted with biblical axioms, logic and reason, they RUNAWAY in defeat by using child like rhetoric like you have done. Melcharaz, you could't debate your way out of a broom closet!
Now, run along and lick your wounds because a TRUE Christian, that has read ALL OF THE BIBLE, has easily bible-slapped you silly to the point that you had to RUN AWAY in defeat in front of everyone, and from our bible's true words.
Therefore, to save yourself even further embarrassment, it is better for you to now remain silent, than to make yourself more of a fool because of your embarrassing lack of knowledge to our faith.
You are now excused in the name of Satan!
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@Mopac
Mopac,
I SAID THAT ZEUS IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY OTHER GOD, because I am a TRUE Christian, that can compare our Jesus to the all powerful ZEUS! If you can't come to this conclusion because of ZEUS' history, then you are a greater ignorant Christian than I thought you were! Facts are facts, regardless of one's beliefs.
I don't think, but I know as an absolute, that the above historical facts speaks volumes about your zero credibility at DebateArt, especially since I have shown you to be as dumbfounded as your cohort in biblical crime, Dr. C&P Franklin!
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@Dr.Franklin
Dr. C&P Franklin,
For your lost memory, I'll post my question to you once again since you did not address it. Ready?
"Before you make a greater fool of yourself on DebateArt, specifically state what chapter and verse that supports your otherwise Satanic quote exemplifying that there is NO HEAVEN, fool! (Your post #1)
Remember, DebateArt members are watching you RUN AWAY again from very simple religious questions!
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
As usual, you remove one foot to insert the other with your godly passage at #50, where you are guilty of "Emulation, sedition, and variance!" Therefore, as I have known from the beginning, you WILL NOT inhabit our 1400 square mile Heaven upon your demise. What's new? NOTHING!
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@Dr.Franklin
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Dr. C&P Franklin,
YOUR COMICAL AND STUPID QUOTE: "The Kingdom of God is not a place, It's actually God ruling over our hearts!"
Before you make a greater fool of yourself on DebateArt, specifically state what chapter and verse that supports your otherwise Satanic quote exemplifying that there is NO HEAVEN, fool!
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@Melcharaz
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Melcharaz,
Your inept religious historicity is without bounds! This is because, I as a TRUE Christian, and not a FAKE Christian like you have shown us in your ever so wanting posts, have to accept that the strongest God that ever existed was the Greek God, ZEUS!
As shown within the writings of ZEUS, he was the king of all Gods of the biblical era. ZEUS imposes his will onto all gods, even unto our Christian God Yahweh/Jesus. Learn your history regarding who is the best and strongest God before you are embarrassed once again.
"It is not possible either to trick or escape the mind of Zeus." Hesiod
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR NOT FOR PRIME TIME QUOTE: "I am going to point up at Melcharaz, and go with what he said"
This only shows once again that you DO NOT have any thoughts of your own upon any topic of Christianity, but use your churches rhetoric, and others, for your opinion! Why are we not surprised? LOL!
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@Melcharaz
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Melcharaz,
First thing, your biography page has nothing but “no information,” therefore as a foundation of your presence on DebateArt, you represent NOTHINGNESS within this forum. This is because you are either too lazy to create a Bio page, or if you did, you would be to embarrassed because of its content. Which is it?
To address your deceiving bible ignorance:
“ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” ( Isaiah 45:7 )
YOUR INEPT AND UNGODLY QUOTE: “you err in interpretation of the scriptures. When it speaks of God creating evil, it's not the same evil you see in man. It is the response of YHWH to bring judgement on the people who do evil and is evil to them.
Huh? Your “Gobbly Gook” explanation is in no way logically understood relative to the actual passage of Isaiah 45:7! Again, the FAKE Christian like you turn yourself into a Satanic pretzel in trying in vain to explain away the biblical LITERAL meaning of Isaiah 45:7!
To prevent “hearsay” and your Satanic interjections, tell me the bible chapter and verse that substantiates your Satanic claim that what Jesus’ inspired word in the verse in question regarding EVIL are not to be taken literally, but instead, spin doctored away from their literal meaning. I am just following your lead when you stated to killshot, to wit: “Also if you are going to argue free will and fatalism cannot go together, please use scriptural support to show this.” Your round 3 quote: https://www.debateart.com/debates/670
Furthermore, tell us what Christian decoder ring that you use to determine what Jesus said, is not what he really said. Understood? Thank you.
When including your other bible passages relative to Isaiah 45:7, as being other sources that do not mention the term EVIL, then the irony is that those other entities that Jesus created are EVIL based! Included are the following, "disaster, bad times, and calamity,"get it? You remove one foot to insert the other just like Dr. C&P Franklin and his cohort in biblical crime, Mopac!
If you want to play “Which Bible Should the Christian Use” when regarding Isiah 45:7 in Jesus creating EVIL, the following bible rewrites to Jesus’ inspired words in the 1611 KJV are as follows:
KJ21: I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I, the Lord, do all these things.
ASV: I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.
AMPC: I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create evil ; I am the Lord, Who does all these things.
AMPC: I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create evil, I am the Lord, Who does all these things.
DARBY: I forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.
DRA: I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.
GNV: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
JUB: I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.
KJV: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
AKJV: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
LEB: I form light and I create darkness; I make peace and I create evil; I am Yahweh; I do all these things.
WYC: I forming light, and making darknesses, making peace, and forming evil; I am the Lord, doing all these things.
YOUR COMICAL QUOTE: “its hard to defend a kjv only view of scripture even if you have knowledge of the original hebrew and greek languages.”
Newsflash, Jesus was Hebrew, His father Yahweh was Hebrew, Jesus’ disciples were Hebrew, Jesus was sent only for the Hebrews, Yaweh/Jesus God only chose the Hebrews, and only chose the Hebrews of His own posession from the peoples of the world, therefore I do not have to defend the KJV1611 relative to Isaiah 45:7 since it was written in Hebrew! Do you understand? Maybe? Yes?
First thing, your biography page has nothing but “no information,” therefore as a foundation of your presence on DebateArt, you represent NOTHINGNESS within this forum. This is because you are either too lazy to create a Bio page, or if you did, you would be to embarrassed because of its content. Which is it?
To address your deceiving bible ignorance:
“ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” ( Isaiah 45:7 )
YOUR INEPT AND UNGODLY QUOTE: “you err in interpretation of the scriptures. When it speaks of God creating evil, it's not the same evil you see in man. It is the response of YHWH to bring judgement on the people who do evil and is evil to them.
Huh? Your “Gobbly Gook” explanation is in no way logically understood relative to the actual passage of Isaiah 45:7! Again, the FAKE Christian like you turn yourself into a Satanic pretzel in trying in vain to explain away the biblical LITERAL meaning of Isaiah 45:7!
To prevent “hearsay” and your Satanic interjections, tell me the bible chapter and verse that substantiates your Satanic claim that what Jesus’ inspired word in the verse in question regarding EVIL are not to be taken literally, but instead, spin doctored away from their literal meaning. I am just following your lead when you stated to killshot, to wit: “Also if you are going to argue free will and fatalism cannot go together, please use scriptural support to show this.” Your round 3 quote: https://www.debateart.com/debates/670
Furthermore, tell us what Christian decoder ring that you use to determine what Jesus said, is not what he really said. Understood? Thank you.
When including your other bible passages relative to Isaiah 45:7, as being other sources that do not mention the term EVIL, then the irony is that those other entities that Jesus created are EVIL based! Included are the following, "disaster, bad times, and calamity,"get it? You remove one foot to insert the other just like Dr. C&P Franklin and his cohort in biblical crime, Mopac!
If you want to play “Which Bible Should the Christian Use” when regarding Isiah 45:7 in Jesus creating EVIL, the following bible rewrites to Jesus’ inspired words in the 1611 KJV are as follows:
KJ21: I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I, the Lord, do all these things.
ASV: I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.
AMPC: I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create evil ; I am the Lord, Who does all these things.
AMPC: I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create evil, I am the Lord, Who does all these things.
DARBY: I forming the light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil: I, Jehovah, do all these things.
DRA: I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.
GNV: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
JUB: I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.
KJV: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
AKJV: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
LEB: I form light and I create darkness; I make peace and I create evil; I am Yahweh; I do all these things.
WYC: I forming light, and making darknesses, making peace, and forming evil; I am the Lord, doing all these things.
YOUR COMICAL QUOTE: “its hard to defend a kjv only view of scripture even if you have knowledge of the original hebrew and greek languages.”
Newsflash, Jesus was Hebrew, His father Yahweh was Hebrew, Jesus’ disciples were Hebrew, Jesus was sent only for the Hebrews, Yaweh/Jesus God only chose the Hebrews, and only chose the Hebrews of His own posession from the peoples of the world, therefore I do not have to defend the KJV1611 relative to Isaiah 45:7 since it was written in Hebrew! Do you understand? Maybe? Yes?
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@Melcharaz
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Melcharaz,
To continue your blatant bible ignorance herewith:
“The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.” (Proverbs 15:3)
YOUR SPIN DOCTORING QUOTE REGARDING PROVERBS 15:3: The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good. this doesn't make god evil either, it makes him just in watching and recording the deeds of men.”
How you can sleep at night bringing forth your Devil Speak is beyond reason! Listen up, our Jesus gave us logic and reason to actually use, therefore, under Proverbs 15:3 when Jesus’ eyes are everywhere, then when He was WATCHING innocent babies gasping for air as they were drowning in His Great Flood, and as they were crying out to their mothers in horror, this is in fact, EVIL BY NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, PERIOD!
“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?” (Amos 3:6)
YOUR NON SEQUITUR DEVIL SPEAK REGARDING AMOS 3:6: “Again, confusing the evil of man and YHWH response to it through righteous judgement.”
Jesus’ inspired LITERAL words in Amos 3:6 specifically states “should there be EVIL in a city, and the Lord hath not done it.” DOES NOT preclude the evil of men, where additionally in this verse there is absolutely no righteous judgment shown either, as you insidiously imply, do you understand minion of Satan?
“For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:” ( Colossians 1:16 )
ONCE AGAIN, YOUR SATANIC QUOTE RELATIVE TO 1 COLOSSIANS 1:16: “Not sure how you assume evil through YHWH's Power or headship.”
I am NOT assuming Jesus’ power of headship that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the verse in question! I am stating as biblical fact that by Him ALL THINGS were created, therefore including the fact that Jesus created EVIL, get it?
YOUR SICKENING QUOTE, AND ONE OF MANY REASONS WHY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING OUR FAITH: “Again, the scriptures say that none have done good, the baby thats in the womb is innocent of the hardness of sin, but even in the womb is still a sinful creature, the only human that was not sinful and was pure was Yuhshua ha'mashiach (Jesus christ)”
Can you imagine anyone worshipping our Jesus as described by you? Really? You posit that an innocent baby in the womb of their drowning mother in Jesus' Great Flood is a sinful creature, therefore, it can die to the judgment of our Jesus with no concern towards its well being! Then we as Christians are supposed to be against abortion of the zygote or fetus, whereas Jesus in essence aborted fetus’ in His Creat Flood? ARE YOU KIDDING ME ???! HELLO?
YOUR IGNORANT QUOTE: “Trying to ascribe evil to God is a form of blasphemy.”
As a TRUE Christian, of which you are not, I have to accept the fact that as shown within my two posts to you, our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, was in fact EVIL! At the same time of coming to logical terms with this biblical fact, I still have to believe in our faith. 2+2=4, oil and water don’t mix, and YOU are an apologetic spin doctor for Satan as you try in vain to rewrite the TRUE words of Jesus, therefore you are guilty of the following passage! “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” (2 Timothy 4: 3)
Melcharaz, you are quite an ignorant FAKE Christian as a minion of Satan, as if I haven't seen them before at DebateArt, and I do not know if I have the time to school you about our faith because I am having to school the ever so biblically inept Dr. C&P Franklin, and his equally dumbfounded of the bible, Mopac at this time. But, if need be, I will SCHOOL YOU AS WELL!
To continue your blatant bible ignorance herewith:
“The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.” (Proverbs 15:3)
YOUR SPIN DOCTORING QUOTE REGARDING PROVERBS 15:3: The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good. this doesn't make god evil either, it makes him just in watching and recording the deeds of men.”
How you can sleep at night bringing forth your Devil Speak is beyond reason! Listen up, our Jesus gave us logic and reason to actually use, therefore, under Proverbs 15:3 when Jesus’ eyes are everywhere, then when He was WATCHING innocent babies gasping for air as they were drowning in His Great Flood, and as they were crying out to their mothers in horror, this is in fact, EVIL BY NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, PERIOD!
YOUR NON SEQUITUR DEVIL SPEAK REGARDING AMOS 3:6: “Again, confusing the evil of man and YHWH response to it through righteous judgement.”
Jesus’ inspired LITERAL words in Amos 3:6 specifically states “should there be EVIL in a city, and the Lord hath not done it.” DOES NOT preclude the evil of men, where additionally in this verse there is absolutely no righteous judgment shown either, as you insidiously imply, do you understand minion of Satan?
ONCE AGAIN, YOUR SATANIC QUOTE RELATIVE TO 1 COLOSSIANS 1:16: “Not sure how you assume evil through YHWH's Power or headship.”
I am NOT assuming Jesus’ power of headship that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the verse in question! I am stating as biblical fact that by Him ALL THINGS were created, therefore including the fact that Jesus created EVIL, get it?
Can you imagine anyone worshipping our Jesus as described by you? Really? You posit that an innocent baby in the womb of their drowning mother in Jesus' Great Flood is a sinful creature, therefore, it can die to the judgment of our Jesus with no concern towards its well being! Then we as Christians are supposed to be against abortion of the zygote or fetus, whereas Jesus in essence aborted fetus’ in His Creat Flood? ARE YOU KIDDING ME ???! HELLO?
YOUR IGNORANT QUOTE: “Trying to ascribe evil to God is a form of blasphemy.”
As a TRUE Christian, of which you are not, I have to accept the fact that as shown within my two posts to you, our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, was in fact EVIL! At the same time of coming to logical terms with this biblical fact, I still have to believe in our faith. 2+2=4, oil and water don’t mix, and YOU are an apologetic spin doctor for Satan as you try in vain to rewrite the TRUE words of Jesus, therefore you are guilty of the following passage! “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” (2 Timothy 4: 3)
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To begin with, I expect Dr. C&P Franklin and Mopac to run away from this topic as fast as possible because they are FAKE Christians, and if they have the audacity to engage, they will have the most embarrassing and irrational excuses to show Jesus is not EVIL that you will ever see!
True Christians like myself understand that our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, was without question, EVIL! We have to live with this fact if we are going to follow the Christian faith. On the other hand, we have FAKE Christians that turn themselves into a continuous pretzel in trying in vain to explain away why Jesus is not evil, which is irrational and embarrassing for them to do because of biblical axioms saying otherwise.
EVIL: morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life. harmful; injurious:
One of many examples of our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, in being EVIL, is the Bible fact that He created EVIL in the first place (Isaiah 45:7, Proverbs 15:3, (Amos 3:6, Colossians 1:16) and then drowned the entire world including innocent zygotes, fetus,' babies and children because of it!
"For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven. Everything that is on the earth shall die." (Genesis 6:17)
FAKE Christians, can an innocent zygote and fetus be truely evil where they need to be horrifically destroyed within their mothers womb when they have drowned? Can an innocent baby really be evil where they need to die a drastic drowning death by hopelessly treading water in our Jesus’ Great Flood for hours as they cry out in horror to their mothers? Picture their muscles burning due to large amounts of lactic acid production, where when they finally give up, they went under and held their breaths as acidic carbon dioxide eroded their lungs until the unbearable pain forced them to inhale, where there was no air for them to breathe, and then they died. What makes this even worse for me, is the biblical fact that our Yahweh/Jesus god was watching these precious little babies drowning a ghastly death! (Proverbs 15:3)
Yes, our Yahweh/Jesus is most certainly EVIL, and TRUE Christians have to acknowledge this biblical fact and move on the best way we can. To say otherwise, is not only LYING, but in turn, it makes the denier a FAKE Christian!
True Christians like myself understand that our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, was without question, EVIL! We have to live with this fact if we are going to follow the Christian faith. On the other hand, we have FAKE Christians that turn themselves into a continuous pretzel in trying in vain to explain away why Jesus is not evil, which is irrational and embarrassing for them to do because of biblical axioms saying otherwise.
EVIL: morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life. harmful; injurious:
One of many examples of our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, in being EVIL, is the Bible fact that He created EVIL in the first place (Isaiah 45:7, Proverbs 15:3, (Amos 3:6, Colossians 1:16) and then drowned the entire world including innocent zygotes, fetus,' babies and children because of it!
"For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven. Everything that is on the earth shall die." (Genesis 6:17)
FAKE Christians, can an innocent zygote and fetus be truely evil where they need to be horrifically destroyed within their mothers womb when they have drowned? Can an innocent baby really be evil where they need to die a drastic drowning death by hopelessly treading water in our Jesus’ Great Flood for hours as they cry out in horror to their mothers? Picture their muscles burning due to large amounts of lactic acid production, where when they finally give up, they went under and held their breaths as acidic carbon dioxide eroded their lungs until the unbearable pain forced them to inhale, where there was no air for them to breathe, and then they died. What makes this even worse for me, is the biblical fact that our Yahweh/Jesus god was watching these precious little babies drowning a ghastly death! (Proverbs 15:3)
Yes, our Yahweh/Jesus is most certainly EVIL, and TRUE Christians have to acknowledge this biblical fact and move on the best way we can. To say otherwise, is not only LYING, but in turn, it makes the denier a FAKE Christian!
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@Polytheist-Witch
Polytheist-Witch,
YOUR HYPOCRITICAL QUOTE: "No one cares about your rage, sock puppet."
Uh, you obviously care about my posts by commenting on my thread TWICE! HELLO? PW, I at least like a challenge when confronted by inept people like you, therefore, don't make it so easy for me to show you to be the hypocritical fool again, okay?
For you to save further embarrassment in front of the members of DebateArt again, just do not comment on my posts, okay? Thanks.
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR DECEIVING QUOTES: "I do not consider you when I say "we", as you are not with The Church. For you to call God evil is not something we would ever do.
See, this is the difference between a TRUE Christian like myself that accepts ALL of the Bible and its blatantly true outcomes, and where you are a FAKE Christian that can't accept Jesus as being evil in murdering innocent children in the Great Flood, where you have to turn into a pretzel in apologetically explaining this biblical axiom away! TRUTH vs APOLOGETICS, get it? Huh? Maybe? Yes? With you being taken over by Satan, you probably don't get it, which is sad.
Keep trying in vain to "spin doctor" our faith away from the truth in the name of your handler, SATAN! You and Doc Frank are true examples of what a FAKE Christian represents, congratulations.
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@Polytheist-Witch
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Polytheist-Witch,
YOUR "POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK" QUOTE: "Says a poser sock puppet."
Why are you still in this forum? Look at your biography page, wait, you can't look at it because it CONTAINS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! LOL!!! The nothingness of your bio page is relative to your posts at DebateArt, because they too, are NOTHING but useless chaff.
Now, I expect another post from you in trying to refute the embarrassing facts about you above, and as usual, you will do this in a kindergarten school manner, therefore, you can begin to show DebateArt that you are a continued fool that really has nothing to say.
Waiting!
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@Mopac
Mopac,
Are you still breathing after me bible-slapping you silly all the time? You must have just gotten back from your nearest hospital's ER room!
We completely understand good from evil, as shown biblically below:
GOOD: Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, will save EVERYONE because of His Salvation to his entire mixed creation on earth.
EVIL: Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate, was evil when he murdered innocent zygotes, fetus,' babies, and children in His Great Flood.
This topic will always be "sensical" and as a TRUE Christian, we have to accept the above as not only being biblical axioms, but as logical fact.
You are excused once again for your ineptness regarding our faith.
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.Here we have Dr. C&P Franklin in the comical link below posing another lame topic of “Where did God come from!” What did this inexperienced FAKE Christian forget to do? YES, he forgot to mention in which God he is referring too! Why is this so hard for the FAKE Christian to accomplish?
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2132
There were many gods in history, and to not mention their name to show them respect is sacrilidge, but the FAKE Christians keep on doing this! The term “GOD” is a title, therefore to know which God one is referring too is to have it named, get it? 2+2=4, oil and water don’t mix, and Doc Frank and Mopac continue to be amateurish fools regarding their faith!
TRUE Christians like myself, and FAKE Christians like Doc Frank and Mopac, listed below is a few of the Gods that are known throughout history. Now, you pick out which god you are talking about when you mention the word “God,” or forever be silent upon this topic again, DO YOU UNDERSTAND, FOOLS?
Azura Mazda, Angus, Belenos, Brigid, Dana, Lugh, Dagda, Epona, Allah Aphrodite, Apollo, Ares, Artemis, Atehna, Demeter, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Gaia, Hades, Hekate, Helios, Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Pan, Poseidon, Selene, Uranus, Zeus, Mathilde, Elves, Eostre, Frigg, Ganesh, Hretha, Saxnot, Shef, Shiva Thuno, Tir, Vishnu, Weyland, Woden, Yahweh, Alfar, Balder, Beyla, Bil, Bragi, Byggvir, Dagr, Disir, Eir, Forseti, Freya, Freyr, Frigga, Heimdall, Hel, Hoenir, Idunn, Jord, Lofn, Loki, Mon, Njord, Norns, Nott, Odin, Ran, Saga, Sif, Siofn, Skadi, Snotra, Sol, Syn, Ull, Thor, Tyr, Var, Vali, Vidar, Vor, Herne, Holda, Nehalennia, Nerthus, Endovelicus, Ataegina, Runesocesius, Bacchus, Ceres, Cupid, Diana, Janus, Juno, Jupiter, Maia, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Neptune, Pluto, Plutus, Proserpina, Venus, Vesta, Vulcan, Attis, Cybele, El-Gabal, Isis, Mithras, Sol Invictus, Endovelicus, Anubis, Aten, Atum, Bast, Bes, Geb, Hapi, Hathor, Heget, Horus, Imhotep, Isis, Khepry, Khnum, Maahes, Ma"at, Menhit, Mont, Naunet, Neith, Nephthys, Nut, Osiris, Ptah, Ra, Sekhmnet, Sobek, Set, Tefnut, Thoth, An, Anshar, Anu, Apsu, Ashur, Damkina, Ea, Enki, Enlil, Ereshkigal, Nunurta, Hadad, Inanna, Ishtar, Kingu, Kishar, Marduk, Mummu, Nabu, Nammu, Nanna, Nergal, Ninhursag, Ninlil, Nintu, Shamash, Sin, Tiamat, Utu, Mitra, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukiyomi, Inari, Tengu, Izanami, Izanagi, Daikoku, Ebisu, Benzaiten, Bishamonten, Fukurokuju, Jurojin, Hotei, Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, Inti, Kon, Mama Cocha, Mama Quilla, Manco Capac, Pachacamac and Zaramama, Vera.
This forum runs rampant with some of the most FAKE Christians on the internet, bar none!
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@Stronn
Stronn,
As a TRUE Christian, I have to accept in what my Yahweh/Jesus/Spirit God represents within the Bible, and that is a serial killer of innocent children through plagues, the Great Flood, abortions, and other horrific examples of Him being a killer machine. That being said, you will NEVER hear the biblically inept MOPAC admit the same. He is a Burger King Christian, where he wants his bible his way, and not our specific God's way, period.
Mopac is a FAKE Christian par excellence!
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR VAIN QUOTE: "Mohammed is a false prophet, and does not know Jesus Christ. Very simple."
It is NOT very simple, because how do you know that Mohammed is a false prophet, any more than our Jesus? Is it just because Mohammed is not saying what you want him to say because of the doctrine that has been handed down to you as given? The irony of which, Muslims posit that Jesus is not the son of Allah, nor Allah incarnate, and they use our bible to prove this fact. Now what?
YOUR TOUGH GUY QUOTE: "Thst is probably the nicest way I can put it without getting too polemic."
Oh, by all means, get tougher if need be to perceive yourself as knowledgable about the Bible, when in FACT, I have shown you to be the most blatant RUN AWAY from Jesus' TRUE words that I have ever seen in any religious forum!
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@Snoopy
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Snoopy,
YOUR QUOTE: "Nomenclature doesn't change what people are actually referring to in the real world."
Conversely, in the real world of rational thought, nomenclature becomes moot when all 3 Abrahamic based religions ALL CONTRADICT EACH OTHER in their godly inspired doctrines! Understood?
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@Dr.Franklin
Dr. C&P Franklin,
YOUR COMICAL QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: "Ok, I made a mistake stop getting mad over me saying one thing please"
As shown ad infinitum within this forum, you make a plethora of mistakes in the name of Jesus and you expect to be called a Christian.
You don't have to wallow in the depths of your ignorance to the faith by stating "please, don't make me the continued fool all the time," because how can I get mad at you when you can't help in being made the fool at DebateArt?
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR EMBARRASSING QUOTE: "Christians who speak Arabic refer to God as Alllah."
Uh, no, they are called MUSLIMS and not Christians when referring to their God named Allah. Why do you cause discord when talking about the Abrahamic faiths? Additionally, how can you NOT accept Mohammed since Islam and Christianity are founded upon Abraham?!
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@Dr.Franklin
Dr. C&P Franklin,
Specific words have meanings, get it? Therefore, when you stated EVERYTHING, there is no other way to define that word, other than its true definition of all that exists, understood? Maybe just a little bit? Yes?
Therefore, you either slipped upon your Freudian, or Satan has entered your soul to disparage Christianity like it has done for the equally inept MOPAC! You two are certainly two peas in a pod! LOL!
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is God, there is no other."
Then you take the position that there is no other God than Allah, which is part and parcel to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam because of their Abrahamic foundation? Yes?!
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@Dr.Franklin
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Dr. C&P Franklin,
YOUR EMBARRASSNIG QUOTE AGAIN: "There is proof of God, open your eyes, everything Is God"
As usual, let me "school" you once again.
EVERYTHING: all that exists.
Therefore, dog shit is a part of all that exists, get it, fool? Therefore you equate Yahweh/Jesus/Spirt to dog shit you blatant ignorant fool! Then the irony is the fact that you and the equally bible ignorant fool MOPAC think you're going to heaven, NOT!
You are excused for now, that is, until you remove one foot to insert the other AGAIN!
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@Dr.Franklin
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Dr. C&P Franklin,
YOUR QUOTE: "There is proof of God, open your eyes, everything Is God"
You mean to tell me that when my dog POOPS in the back yard, and I open my eyes to this fact, then the POOP is our Yahweh/Jesus/Spirit God since you state "everything is God?"
You embarrass Jesus by just existing!
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
Instead of you always using a "title" instead of a "name" of your specific God concept, what is the name of your God?
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@Dr.Franklin
Dr. C&P Franklin,
To prevent you from making a greater fool of yourself, I will just reiterate the following in behalf of HEBREW LANGUAGE FACT!
The Hebrew word CHUWG describes a CIRCLE. Therefore, deducing it to its irreducable primary, the Hebrew word CHUWG refers to the earth, compass, or the vault of heaven as a CIRCLE which is FLAT and not a SPHERE! 2+2=4!
Strong's #2329: chuwg (pronounced khoog)
from 2328; a circle:--circle, circuit, compass.
Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon:
chûg
1) circle, circuit, compass
2) (BDB) vault (of the heavens)
Part of Speech: noun masculine
Relation: from H2328
Usage:
This word is used 3 times:
Job 22:14: "to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven."
Proverbs 8:27: "I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:"
Isaiah 40:22: "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants that stretcheth out the heavens”
Strong's #2329: chuwg (pronounced khoog)
from 2328; a circle:--circle, circuit, compass.
Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon:
chûg
1) circle, circuit, compass
2) (BDB) vault (of the heavens)
Part of Speech: noun masculine
Relation: from H2328
Usage:
This word is used 3 times:
Job 22:14: "to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven."
Proverbs 8:27: "I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:"
Isaiah 40:22: "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants that stretcheth out the heavens”
Now, it is not my intent to show you to be the fool once again regarding the Bible and the historicity at the time that posits that the earth was FLAT, therefore, take your medicine and be silent, thank you.
Ancient Israel imagined the earth to be a flat disk (Isa 42.5) resting on a foundation or pillars (Job 9.6). It is surrounded by the ocean (Pss 24.2; 136.6). It has four corners (Isa 11.12; Ezek 7.2; job 37.3; 38.13) and an edge (Isa 24.36) or ends (Isa 40.8; Job 28.4; Ps 48.11; Jer 6.22; 25.32).
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ANACHRONISTICALLY CHANGE HISTORY OF THE TIME OF THE BIBLE WHERE THE EARTH WAS CONSIDERED FLAT, PERIOD! https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/719/2017/03/hebrewcosmologyforblog.png
Can you possibly give us a rest regarding your complete bible ignorance? Please, at least think about it. Thanks.
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@Dr.Franklin
Dr. C&P Franklin,
Thank you once again for admitting that the earth is FLAT, where I made you the continued fool in your debate!
“The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth” (Isaiah 40:28).
Now, take off your pointed aluminum foil hat and think, you cannot have ends of the earth on an alleged sphere, UNDERSTOOD? HUH?
Class dismissed.
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@Harikrish
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Harikrish,
Can you pass the popcorn, as we watch the two most bible ignorant and dumbfounded FAKE Christians on DebateArt spew forth their Devil speak! The ever so inept Dr. C&P Franklin and Mopac should take their Christian comedy act on the road, where it would sell out every night! Hey, wait a minute! I have an idea, envision the following .............
The Comedy Store
LIVE ON STAGE TONIGHT: THE CHRISTIAN COMEDY TEAM OF DR. FRANKLIN AND MOPAC!
The show starts at 9pm, be there or be square!
"Hello, I am Mitzi Shore, your MC tonight at the Comedy Store. Please hold your applause, but now, we have LIVE at the Comedy Store, the ever so laughable and biblically inept, Dr. Franklin, and his equally laughable and bible ignorant partner, Mopac. These two found out in how funny they were when they started their comedy routine on DebateArt, where they tried in vain to apologetically spin doctor away disturbing Christian biblical axioms, that in turn, were so funny to rationally thinking individuals!
Therefore, these two were laughed off of DebateArt religion forum because they were easily bible slapped silly by Harikrish and BrotherDThomas, who saw potential for a great Christian comedy act, and therefore took the reigns and are now the managers of the "Doc Frank & Mopac" show!
Okay comedy fans, are you ready? Let's give a great Comedy Store applause for the new Christian Comedy Act of the Doc Frank & Mopac show! Come on out guys,....... here they are fans!"
++++++++++ !!!! APPLAUSE !!!!! ++++++++++++
The rest is Christian comedy history!
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Harikrish,
Can you pass the popcorn, as we watch the two most bible ignorant and dumbfounded FAKE Christians on DebateArt go at each other upon the topic at hand? The ever so inept Dr. C&P Franklin and Mopac should take their Christian comedy act on the road, where it would sell out every night! Hey, wait a minute! I have an idea, envision the following .............
The Comedy Store
LIVE ON STAGE TONIGHT: THE CHRISTIAN COMEDY TEAM OF DR. FRANKLIN AND MOPAC!
The show starts at 9pm, be there or be square!
"Hello, I am Mitzi Shore, your MC tonight at the Comedy Store. Please hold your applause, but now, we have LIVE at the Comedy Store, the ever so laughable and biblically inept, Dr. Franklin, and his equally laughable and bible ignorant partner, Mopac. These two found out in how funny they were when they started their comedy routine on DebateArt, where they tried in vain to apologetically spin doctor away disturbing Christian biblical axioms, that in turn, were so funny to rationally thinking individuals!
Therefore, these two were laughed off of DebateArt religion forum because they were easily bible slapped silly by Harikrish and BrotherDThomas, who saw potential for a great Christian comedy act, and therefore took the reigns and are now the managers of the "Doc Frank & Mopac" show!
Okay comedy fans, are you ready? Let's give a great Comedy Store applause for the new Christian Comedy Act of the Doc Frank & Mopac show! Come on out guys,....... here they are fans!"
++++++++++ !!!! APPLAUSE !!!!! ++++++++++++
The rest is Christian comedy history!
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
Your lack of intelligence doesn't allow you to just "cut to the chase," therefore, I'll do it for you:
And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah. And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?"
You can thank me later.
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR CONTINUOUS LAME QUOTE: "You are a godless clown."
You are nothing but a "one trick pony" with your child like responses subsequent to me bible slapping you silly. It must be so embarrassing for you to have to accept that I easily show you to be dumbfounded regarding our faith, isn't it? Again, get used to it!
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@Dr.Franklin
Dr.C&PFranklin,
Your continuous mention of the word "fool" by you in a "little boy" style, is an admittance that you were made the FOOL in this thread as explicitly shown with your ever so wanting and ignorant refutation to 1 Samuel 19:23-24. The comedy is, you don't have the sense to feel embarrassed.
Run along kid.
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@Mopac
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Mopac,
YOUR PATHETIC AND WANTING QUOTE: "I think the context of the chapter shows that the OP is a biblically illiterate faker."
The irony is the fact that you have yet to chime in on the topic of this thread, other than to throw out "little boy" insults. The reason you remain silent, as shown ad infinitum in this forum, is the fact that you are finally coming to terms that if you did speak out, I would swoop in and literally "own you and your biblical ignorance" like I have done many times before.
Mopac, run along, you are without any credibility within this forum because of your continuous running away from Jesus' true words.
Insert your pathetic response here: _____________________________________________________
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@Dr.Franklin
Dr.C&PFranklin,
YOUR QUOTE 4 TIMES: "Fool!"
Have your psych adjust your medication, your blatant schizophrenia is showing. :(
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@Dr.Franklin
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Dr. Franklin,
YOUR INEPT, BUT FUNNY GRASPING FOR STRAWS QUOTE: "If he really stripped Naked, why didn't Moses,Abraham or any other Prophets do the same."
Listen, you have already made a fool of yourself with your initial post to the topic of this thread, then as if you weren't embarrassed enough for removing one foot to insert the other again, then you made the comical quote above! LOL!!!
LOGIC 101: It matters not whether Moses, Abraham Jesus, Yahweh, or even YOU stripped naked as well, BECAUSE THE FACT REMAINS THAT SAUL PERFORMED THIS ACT OF STRIPPING FOR SAID REASONS in the verse in question, GET IT?
Now, for your sake, take your Biblical ignorance and Satanic Bible Rewrites to a Children's Christian Forum where you and the kids will be more comfortable with your bible ignorance and stupidity relative to the Christian faith. I suggest that you visit and STAY at the following Children's forum: https://www.christianforums.com/forums/children-and-youth-ministry.648/
Both YOU and MOPAC seem to be vying to be the most dumbfounded and bible ignorant FAKE Christian on DebateArt, who will win?
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