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@Dr.Franklin


Doc,

YOUR QUOTE IN ACQUIESCING TOWARDS JESUS' CORRECT TERM AS GOD: "in catholic teaching, son of God is referring to human sense, which is of the topics like this thread, Jesus is certainly God"

Doc, do Jesus a favor and at the onset when you are referring to Him, call Him GOD to begin with! 2+2=4.


Doc, are you learning to accept Jesus as being GAY as the following links specifically show Him to be?


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@Stephen


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Stephen,

Yes, in your post #52 regarding Mark 51-52, *cough,* the context in is very revealing, no pun intended, where this young boy was following Jesus, and when chased because or it, he lost his linen and was NAKED in front of Jesus and others.  As if my passage of Jesus being OPENLY NUDE in front of His disciples, and washing their feet as a more than likely fetish wasn't enough, then when are these passages showing Jesus more so than not as GAY going to stop?


WAIT, I forgot about this example where the GAYDAR alarm is going off the charts relative to Jesus being GAY with this following scenario!  

During the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, the author of the Gospel of John describes how Jesus’ "beloved disciplelaid himself on Jesus’ breast as a very intimate and special gesture of affection that was NOT offered to the other disciples!   Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved. Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake. He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?” (John 13: 23-25) With this passage alone, the GAYDAR hand is spinning profusely!

Then upon Jesus crucifixion, the ONLY disciple that showed up to his death was the one that "Jesus loved.” “When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman, here is your son,” (John 19:26). To say the least, this particular disciple stood out, no pun intended, to be a very specific loved one by Jesus as historically shown in the image herewith:  https://qspirit.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/John-and-Jesus-in-Last-Supper-by-Plautilla-Nelli-750-px-500x331.jpg

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@Dr.Franklin


Doc,

YOUR LYING QUOTE AS A PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN: "He is the Son of God, he didn't need "female loyalty" and certainly not attentions"

Jesus is NOT the son of God, but Jesus is GOD as the serial killer Yahweh God incarnate, HELLO?  When are you ever going to get this right?!  ENOUGH!  

“But in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth. By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.” (1 Timothy 3:15-16)   DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW THAT JESUS IS GOD?!

Doc, you continue to slap Jesus in the face all the time, and at your unfortunate expense upon Judgment Day!

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YES, JESUS WAS A HOMOSEXUAL, DUH!

Alright, this is a hard one, no pun intended again, whereas I shudder to do the visual upon this following passage in relation to Jesus being GAY:

“Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come forth from Father and was going back to Father, got up from supper, and laid aside His garments; and taking a towel, He girded Himself. Then He poured water into the basin, and began to wash the disciples' feet and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded” (John 13: 3-5)  

OMG, if we do the simple math in this ever so revealing scenario, then when Jesus laid aside his garments and took a towel to wrap himself, then when he used said towel to wipe his disciples feet, with which he was girded, JESUS HAD TO BE NUDE IN FRONT OF HIS DISCIPLES!!! Was Jesus teasing his disciples with his outright nudity, and did Jesus have a Gay foot fetish?  With Jesus’ “Gaydar” on, YES!

Did Jesus forget about what is to be done to homosexuals as His inspired writings said herewith: "If a man also lie with mankind,  As he lieth with a woman, Both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13) 

Unfortunately, I have many other examples of Jesus being a "Fairy," but one at a time is enough to handle, again, no pun intended.

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@Stephen


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Stephen,

Regarding the content of your post #19,   *^%$%*&!# .....  neener, neener, neener, I DON'T HEAR YOU, SORRY! ........ ^$@#%&)(!@

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@oromagi


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Oromagi,

Your dissertation only shows again that when reading my serial killer Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures, then they are to take it literally as shown, except the obvious poems and parables.  Whereas in this way, there needs to be no convenient "interpretation" to be biased towards what a person wants Jesus to say, praise!

In the name of the hung Savior,

Brother D. Thomas
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@Stephen


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Holy Jesus Christ!  Referring to your revealing post #13, okay, I am not going to mention anything more that disturbs me about Jesus' birth, whereas you may bring forth more embarrassing images again!  Therefore, thank God, which is Jesus, that you didn't try and find images of Mary changing Jesus' diapers!  Whew ..........

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@Stephen


Stephen,

YOUR POST ONCE AGAIN IS DISTURBING!: "....then we have to believe that Mary's pregnancy lasted for somewhere the region of TEN YEARS!!!! 

Listen, I need to take a rest from your reality posts about my Christian Faith. Now you purport that the adulterous Mary had a pregnancy of about 10 years?!  Whats next, you showing images of Jesus as the serial killer Yahweh God incarnate having his diapers changed, or sucking upon Mary's teats for sustenance? BLASPHEME!

Regarding the "Celestial Impregnation of Mary," can you imagine in how poor ol' Joseph must have felt when he heard Mary alone shouting in the bedroom, "oh God, Oh God ... OH GOD," and how relative that was in her being impregnated by her son Jesus, as God, and when Jesus being born, was His own Father as well regarding the Triune Doctrine!  Can it get any more convoluted and embarrassing in the beginning of my faith? WTF!  

As if Isaiah 7:14 wasn't enough controversy to Jesus, these biblical axioms that we are presenting are even more disturbing to Jesus' birth! FU*&3$@+(@#!

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@Stephen


Stephen,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "And it is this uncertainty and this  unreliability that the christian faith stands on."

Uh, what is worst for me that my faith of Christianity has to stand upon as well relative to Jesus, is the fact that He was born out wedlock since Mary and Joseph were NOT married yet, therefore since Mary, Joseph, and Jesus were Jews, then in true Jewish tradition, Jesus was and is a bastard child, and the ramification thereof that Jesus committed (Deuteronomy 23:3)!  WTF!  :(
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@Stephen


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DAMN YOU!  Here you go again in the weakening of my faith!  Barring the embarrassing inconsistencies of the Resurrection, and since Jesus is the serial killer Yahweh God incarnate, how can a God die in the first place if He is not weak to begin with?  As an example, look at Zeus, who is the king of all Gods, including Jesus,  as it is written in HIs Greek writings equal to Christian writings of Jesus, where do you think Zeus would allow himself to be murdered? NO WAY!  

Another disturbing fact is that if Jesus returned to life 3 days subsequent to His murder, then He really didn't die to save our sins since He returned to life!  As we know, a TRUE sacrifice is that you REMAIN DEAD like our soldiers in war fighting for our country that would have loved this option of them returning to life!  

At all irrational thought that we Christians have to accept with our faith, as shown in your posts, I still have to believe in Christianity because it shows that there will be NO WOMEN in heaven, where we had to put up with these disgruntled Sisters of Eve upon Earth, and the prize of heaven for men, is that the female gender is non-existent, praise the seemingly Zombie Jesus upon being risen!

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@Benjamin


Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one relative to God,

YOUR TOTALLY NOT GETTING IT QUOTE AGAIN TO MY POST #93, #88, #85, #83, and #76 !!!: "Yes, so God made lies in the Bible except for the people at that time believed in those lies thus God didn't lie --- perfectly fine, yes?"  

In you trying so hard to prove your erroneous and embarrassing position relative to you being anachronistic to the topic at hand, you continue to step in the proverbial poo in front of the membership! LOL! ENOUGH!  

The serial killer Yahweh/Jesus did not lie as the 1st grader Bobby, Jesus, and myself have previously shown.  Now to save you from further embarrassment, I AM DONE WITH YOUR JABBERWOCKY STUPIDITY UPON THIS TOPIC, understood, "coin flipping" Agnostic Bible fool?!

Now,  go play with your Bible ignorance in a Children's Christian Forum where you belonged in the first place!

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@rosends



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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Tanakh Bible, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,


YOUR REVEALING QUOTE OF BEING BIBLE SLAPPED SILLY®️ BY ME AGAIN:  "I'm in the mountains for a few days. If you feel like you want to man up and deal with the facts that I presented, the answers I have given and the questions I have asked you, feel free."

First thing, and again, before any refutations by me to your child-like lame posts, chronologically, you are to address my posts FIRST to you as shown in my posts: 84, 85, and 87! SCARED?

Jesus H. Christ, it is no wonder why you have to go into the mountains and hide to try and regain what composure you have left subsequent to Jesus and I easily Bible Slapping you Silly,®️ as shown within this thread page #4 alone. SCARED?

Because of Jesus and I ever so easily making you the continued Hebrew Tanakh Bible fool, and the health-wise ramifications thereof, what you should have done instead of hiding at a Mountain Retreat, is stayed home and partook in a 7 day pre-cleanse, and post-cleanse, with the “The Art of Living” Retreat Center!  This organization could have helped you with your obvious anxiety, depression, and Chronic Stress that you are having because of Jesus and I easily owning you relative to your Hebrew Tanakh Bible faith!   Therefore, when I discuss further matters relative to the topics we are in now, TRUST ME, you’re are going to need this organization shown above, therefore I will give you their link:  https://artoflivingretreatcenter.org/event/ayurveda/anxiety-depression/


ROSENDS, tell me when you get back from hiding in the mountains, and subsequent to you addressing my questions to you as shown above, then I can initiate a BLISTERING AND MEMORABLE 2ND ROUND that will continue to expose in how Bible inept you truly are!  Okay? Yeah, it will be okay.


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@rosends

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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

ANOTHER DUMBFOUNDED QUOTE OF YOURS IN YOUR POST #89 THAT WE ARE GROWING ACCUSTOMED TOO: “When do you plan on responding to what I said?” 

H-E-L-L-O, once again in your total ineptness you have forgotten my statement to you in my post #87 herewith!:   "ROSENDS, now this is how it works in a discussion upon this forum, you don't get something for nothing, therefore you are to address ALL, I repeat, ALL of my post #80 shown in the following link before I respond to your child like mournful posts.   BEGIN:"https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=4&post_number=80


As sorrowfully  shown, you are seriously having a hard time in responding to me because of your very timid, meek, and ever so weak and chagrined lame posts  because I Bible Slapped you Silly®️ in regarding the posts below:

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6132-is-the-god-of-the-muslims-the-same-as-the-jewish-god?page=3&post_number=60
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6132-is-the-god-of-the-muslims-the-same-as-the-jewish-god?page=3&post_number=67

ROSENDS, since you have RAN AWAY from addressing the above posts above in a meaningful way, and others in my post #89 as listed, and since you are in such a disarray and frustration because of me showing you that what you thought you knew, and didn’t, therefore do you want me to list all of my posts to you that you remain SILENT upon to catch up so you can at least “TRY” to address them?  Yes?


ROSENDS, seriously, how embarrassed do you want to get in front of the membership with your continued Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorance and stupidity, and in running away from my godly posts to you? So sad. :(

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@Benjamin


Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one relative to God,

YOUR BRAINLESS INEPT QUOTE IN POST #92, AGAIN!!!!: "IF the Bible says that the Earth is built on pillars and cannot move, AND you claim that God wrote the entire Bible, THEN you claim that God is lying unless you deny modern science"

HELLO, IS ANYBODY HOME TODAY, NOT!!!  How many times do I have to explain to you that you are being deceivingly ANACHRONISTIC!!! Huh?

ANACHRONISTIC: A person or thing that is placed in a time period where it does not fit. One that is out of its proper or chronological order, especially a person or practice that belongs to an earlier time."

The "thing" in the definition of the word in question, is the earth being FLAT and has pillars holding it in place in the time of Jesus as passages so state within the Bible. STOP! Therefore Jesus said in the Bible that the earth is FLAT and had PILLARS in many passages. STOP!  Then when you take todays scientific knowledge of the earth in NOT being FLAT with not having pillars back into the time of Jesus when the people thought the earth wasps  biblically described, is wrong! STOP! Then science has NOTHING to do with Jesus’ time period, but only to todays time period, therefore it is erroneous for your continued ignorance  to say that Jesus lied today because He was under the Bible edict that the earth was FLAT with PILLARS! DO YOU GET IT BIBLE FOOL?!

Benjamin, now, to help you with your level of grade school understanding that you have, I have gotten my neighbors 1st grader little boy to explain to you the proposition that you are not understanding, okay?  His name is "Bobby."


hi benny, im Bobby.... D.Thomas nehbor next door he wanted me to exsplane why u are a dummbass. U see, when Jecus  rote the bible wit saying the earth is flat in passeges in bible, then that is how peeple thot  back in primitive Bronz & iron age of knolege and thinking regardlis of any scince today, where the desrt peeple Jews wore wool in summr and wiped there ass with leves, so jews in this time perod wernt to smart like u.      U stil do not getit with the word "anachronistic" wher u are taking  knowledge today, back into a time where christians didn't  think earth is flat...... Jesus is not liing in his time period of undrstanding wit His bible writns, therfor you are calling Jecus LIAR in his time, where the flat earth was aceptedd!  U got 2 remembr the period in when Jecus lived in the primtive Bronz & iron age of knolege and aceptences! duh lol.  D. Thomas told me to give u the link belo to try & make u undrstand simpel logic, okay, nis meetin u dummy agnostic :P. 


BENJAMIN, IT IS NO WONDER WHY YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND SIMPLE LOGIC IN THE SUBJECT MATTER ABOVE, AND THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE A "COIN FLIPPING" HELL BOUND DUMBFOUNDED AGNOSTIC, WHERE YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO KNOW IN THE FIRST PLACE IN BEING AN AGNOSTIC! LOL!

In the name of the hung Savior,

Brother D. Thomas
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@Benjamin


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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one relative to God, 

Cutting to the chase for the last time in addressing your feeble convoluted and weak propositions in your post # 86, and before, since you NEVER produced the link, where it had to be prior to my post #65 for obvious reasons, where you told me that I was calling Jesus a liar relative to the earth being flat, whereas you forgot for the 5TH TIME in showing me the link in question, therefore Jesus and I are DONE WITH YOU! 

I have no more time for your insolence to my request shown above, like I said in my post #85,  that sets the stage to continue!  What happened, didn't the link exist in the first place, LIAR!



Benjamin, but, if you have the nerve and can find your big boy pants, I will discuss your comical "coin flipping" Agnosticism, where I promise you that you will have a notable outcome! Scared?  We'll see. LOL


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@rosends


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.Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

YOUR FEEBLE QUOTE IN YOUR POST # 84 ONCE AGAIN, LOL!: "When I took them literally? Wasn't your whole point that I needed to prove the validity of my not taking them literally. Please clarify."

OMG! We can see that you are still recovering from me Bible Slapping you Silly®️ in the links below because you are still running away from them, where what you "thought you knew, you didn't," at your continued embarrassing expense.  I am truly sorry that you are still wiping the egg from your face relative to you being made the Tanakh Bible fool in the links below, really I am! 



ROSENDS, Jesus H. Christ, can your posts get any weaker than your post #84 shown above?  YES, because Jesus and I plan on making your posts weaker, weaker, and weaker than they are at this time in my forthcoming posts to you relative to the topics in question that we are discussing!  


ROSENDS, now this is how it works in a discussion upon this forum, you don't get something for nothing, therefore you are to address ALL, I repeat, ALL of my post #80 shown in the following link before I respond to your child like mournful posts.   BEGIN: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=4&post_number=80

Membership, are all Jewish people as biblically dumbfounded of their faith as Rosends is at this time, that is until I continue to school him to be correct?  Enquiring minds want to know!

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@Benjamin


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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one relative to God, 

WOW! Maybe because of your "coin flipping Agnosticism," where you do not know in what to think about God, you take this notion into TRYING to communicate with a TRUE Christian like myself! Jesus H. Christ, let me try again for the LAST TIME, okay?

Regarding my post #65 AGAIN FOR THE 4TH TIME!:

1. FIRST AND FOREMOST, refresh my memory when I said that my serial killer Yahweh/Jesus was lying relative to the earth being flat."  Now, pay attention, this is the point of showing me a post link in where I actually said this, get it?  SHOW ME THE LINK!

2. " Your statement that we have images showing the earth is not flat, is irrelevant because you are being anachronistic..."   Now, this is the time where you were to look the meaning of "Anachronistic" to understand of what I am saying to you,  After looking up the definition of said word, then you are to realize that you are taking todays knowledge back into a time where the Bible thought of the earth being flat. Therefore oil and water don't mix, GET IT?

3.  "are you calling Yahweh/Jesus a LIAR???!!!  Within context, you were calling Jesus a LIAR when you failed to realize the term "Anachronistic,"and what it meant, and by paraphrasing, you said that the earth is shown to be a globe which is irrelative to the Bible in the earth being FLAT!  DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

Now, address the above 3 propositions, otherwise I DO NOT have the time to play "word games" with your Bible ignorance and you not having the understanding of certain words, where you obviously DO NOT understand simple English!  

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@Stephen


Stephen,

Uh, why aren't the pseudo-christians coming into your thread, especially when it relates to the Trinity Doctrine? Since I am the only TRUE Christian upon this forum, at least I made an entrance!

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@Benjamin


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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one relative to God,

LISTEN UP!  This is the THIRD time I have asked you to address the link below before I can continue with your total BIBLE IGNORANCE, GET IT?

Now, if you can't address this link below and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath, then get another Hell bound "coin flipping" Agnostic to do it for you, understood?


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@rosends


.Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,


YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR SORROWFUL POST #77: “You quote Ezekiel 7:2 and Isaiah 11:12 and have them with 2 different translations and yet the Hebrew for the two phrases is identical. So I guess you like interpretations when they suit you. You aren't very good at this, are you?”

OMG! Look at your poor diminutive post #77 that looks as though you are still gasping for air since it has been knocked out of you because I easily Bible Slapped you Silly®️ with biblical FACTS and HISTORICITY in the following linked posts!  Sorry. :(


ROSENDS, listen, you can still try and grasp for the life-raft from your sinking ship in the topics we are discussing at this time, but, because of said topics that you are floundering around upon like a fish out of water, we have noticed that your quotes are getting weaker, weaker, and weaker, smaller and smaller, and less substance and more non sequitur to TRY and save what validity you have left within this forum. What is even worse for you, is the fact that Jesus and I haven't even started with showing this forum in how utterly Hebrew Tanakh Bible stupid and ignorant you truly are.  Chain up!!!


ROSENDS, in the meantime, you have a lot of catching up to do in addressing my following links below where you just happen to run away from them to obviously save yourself even further embarrassment in front of the membership, tsk, tsk, tsk.  




(your child like bereft post #77 doesn’t even come close to a refutation of my post #74, because you failed to realize that when you briefly took said passages literally, then you agreed the earth was flat in Isaiah 11:12!  Whoops! Ouch!)

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@Stephen


Stephen,

GOD FORBID, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BRING UP THIS EMBARRASSING PROPOSITION IN POST #7, WHERE FOLLOWING TRUE CHRISTIANITY IS HARD ENOUGH!: "More over, if the Son is the Father what of  Mary getting pregnant?  Is this not an incestuous congregation? The Father has sex with the mother to conceive the Son who is also the Father.....so technically the Son, who is also the father, had sex with his mother"... 

Yes, the TRUE Christian like myself has to accept the following upon Jesus' birth:  As if the aforementioned above isn’t embarrassing enough,  then Mary and Jesus fall prey to the following inspired passage by Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate: "No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD. Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her. Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would dishonor your father.” (Leviticus 18:6-8)

Whether they’re sexual relations though the natural “fruit of the loin” (Acts 2:30), or through the spirit of Jesus’ incestuous celestial impregnation of his own mother Mary (Matthew 1:18-25), the end result is the same, INCEST! Therefore this precludes the child Jesus was born out of true wedlock in the Hebrew tradition with Joseph not being the paternal father, and therefore Jesus  becomes a Bastard Child, of which we base the beginning of our faith upon.  :(….


Stephen, could I pay you to not bring up topics like this to embarrass my faith in Jesus and Christianity?  For you to not do this again, how about me paying for an all expenses paid trip for an entire week at Hawaii's Kahala Hotel & Resort? I'll even throw in a 7 day rental for a Ferrari 458 Italia, and who cares if the rental charge for this exotic car to me is $2500.00 a day! At least think about it, okay? Thanks.   Oh, I presume you want the Ferrari in red? 

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@Benjamin


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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one,

HELLO? You still haven't addressed my question to you in the following link that you are running away from in front of the membership:



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@oromagi


oromagi,

ADDRESSING YOUR QUOTE PERTAINING TO JESUS AND A "ROUND" EARTH: "Jesus would have never doubted that the Earth is round."

Barring you quoting: "they understood that spherical shadow engulfing the moon was the Earth ...." does not show the earth spherical as a globe, but can only show it as a flat shadowed circle surface like Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures stated herewith: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."  (Isaiah 40:22).   A Circle is NOT Spherical.

If Jesus purported that the earth was "round," which is not a spherical globe by true definition, then in turn, there is not one mention of the earth being a globe within the scriptures, NONE!   BUT,  more so than not, there are many passages where the Hebrew Tanakh Bible, and the Christian New Testament, show explicitly that the earth was flat.

In you bringing up Pythagoras, he "taught" that the Earth was a sphere and at the center of the Universe!  Whoops! Does he still have credibility? Hmmmmm ....


Subjectively, you are being to anachronistic relating to the primitive thinking of the Bronze and Iron Age writers of the JUDEO-Christian, and Hebrew Tanakh Bibles.

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@rosends


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Rosends, the ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

YOUR QUOTE IN EASILY STEPPING IN THE PROVERBIAL POO AGAIN IN YOUR WANTING POST #70, LOL!!!: “but if you want to stick to "what the bible says, the bible means" literalism, then the bible never says that the world has corners, only that the land does.”

Barring your continued Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorance and stupidity of same, in you using the position of trying to make a point to save what face you have left upon this forum, you briefly took your Tanakh as literal when you proposed that 4-corners only related to “land” as shown in this Hebrew Tanakh Bible passage: “And you, O son of man, thus says the Lord God to the land of Israel: An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land..” (Ezekiel 7:2)

BUT, because of your total Tanakh Bible ignorance, it also states in the same biblical usage that you accepted in "4-corners of land" the following passage: “He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

Therefore, when you used the 4 corners of land LITERALLY to accept and to “try” and make your point to me, then in turn, you have to accept Isaiah 11:12 in showing the earth has 4 corners and therefore being FLAT, because a globe does not have corners, get it Bible fool?  Yeah, you do at your chagrin once again.


Further addressing your continued Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorance, then when you said " the bible never says that the world has corners," then in the same vein, your Hebrew Bible never said that the earth is a globe either, get it? Huh?  LOL!  OMG, you make it so easy for me. :(

ROSENDS, you’re excused for now, that is, until you try in vain once again to refute my posts to you that continue to show you as the most Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorant fool upon this esteemed Religion Forum, bar none!


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Timid8967, the half-assed member because he fails to include a biography,

In answer to your ignorant quote about Jesus has no place in your thread AGAIN, whereas the title of your thread is: "Is the god of the Muslims the same as the Jewish god," then Jesus should be in your thread because Jesus is a JEWISH God, and Jesus is the Jewish God Yahweh incarnate, of which you speak, GET IT BIBLE FOOL? HUH?

Your Bible ignorance has absolutely no bounds within this forum!  

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Timid8967, the half-assed member because he fails to include a biography,

In answering yet another subjective faux pas of yours in your post # 66, you should have finished the spectrum of mentioning ALL of the Abrahamic Gods at once, therefore including the serial killer Jesus as Yahweh god incarnate. Therefore, as if your half ass membership wasn't embarrassing enough for you because you can't fill out a biography, then your topic became half assed as well without Jesus.  Get it, yeah you do.  :(


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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

ROSENDS, in addressing your feeble sounding post #62,  the godly propositions in my revealing post #60, where ALL Abrahamic Religions worship the SAME ONE GOD are Biblically vouchsafed by the separate divisions of the Abrahamic Religions as explicitly shown,  and most importantly, in using your Hebrew Religion as well, which holds more validity to the eventful outcome shown!  Whereas your gibberish gobbledygook opinions as a human shown in your ungodly laughable posts in trying so hard to say that the Abrahamic Religions have separate and distinct gods, falls flat upon it's proverbial face!  But, in turn, look at it this way, with my schooling towards your blatant ignorance on this topic, you will eventfully learn!  You can thank me later.  

I only have time for one of your blatant hypocritical quotes: You stated: "Are you always driven by whatever anyone claims in a text? " Well, you most certainly follow this quote of yours by reading from your Hebrew Tanakh Bible!  Whoops!  LOL

Now, like I said, get your sorry Satanic  ass back into the Flat Earth thread where I haven't even started on your outright Bible stupidity relative to that main topic at hand, understood?  GO! NOW! HURRY! LOL!

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Ragnar,

First off, it is great that you are now participating within the Religion Forum that you moderate as well, praise Jesus!

In your post #35 within this thread, you were addressing the following: "Is Allah the same as Jehovah, or are they 2 different Gods?"
Your answer was: "They are both Abrahamic Religions, so kinda yes. However, kinda no.  Then you followed up your statements with analogies to try and prove your point.

Subjectively, when talking about whether all of the Abrahamic Religions worship the same one god, or worship separate and distinct gods, it has to be an absolute conclusion and not in any way a "Maybe" whether they are or not as you stated in your link below.

Therefore, wouldn't it be very hard to conclude that the 3 Abrahamic Religions were all from the decent Abraham, but at the same time, they were 3 DIFFERENT DISTINCT GODS?!  NOT!  Whereas, within the scriptures of each of the Abrahamic Religions show that it is the same one God that they all worship, no matter the disturbing outcome that this proposition may show!

Peruse my post #60 above, and we can further talk about it if so desired. 


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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from futher embarrassment within this forum,

ROSENDS, barring your flustering post #21 above in typing "slowly," which was great comedy on your part, let me zone in on your continued Hebrew Bible ignorance relative to your notion that the Abrahamic religions all have separate gods, okay? Thank you.


1.   The Hebrew Jesus is your serial killer Hebrew Yahweh God incarnate, therefore, Yahweh and Jesus are the same God, end of discussion for 2 Gods being the same ONE GOD, understood Bible fool? Yes? Maybe?

2.   Relative to the Islamic God Allah being the SAME ONE GOD that the Jews and Christians worship, the Christian Catholic faith accepts that the Islamic god Allah is the same ONE GOD as Jesus, which in turn is the Hebrew God Yahweh. Are you able to understand this simple syllogism thus far? Yes?  

Therefore a Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church - Paragraph # 841).   GET IT?  

Therefore the Muslims accept that the serial killer Hebrew God named Yahweh of Abrahamic decent, is the same God that they worship, therefore deducing its down to its irreducible primary, YAHWEH, JESUS, AND ALLAH are all the SAME ONE GOD!  

3.  Furthermore, the Muslim faith states with specificity they accept the god that has been sent down on Abraham and the tribes of Judaism, which is again your brutal serial killer Yahweh God.  Whereas of which was given to Moses and Jesus and the prophets where they make no division between any of them, and to surrender to Him as the serial killer Yahweh (Quran, chapter 2:136)  Get it Bible fool?

4.  Mainstream Muslims have to agree they worship the same God that Christians or Jews worship AS THE ONE SAME GOD because within the Quran there's the Biblical story of Jacob asking his sons whom they'll worship after his death. "Jacob's sons replied, 'We will worship the God of your fathers' — Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. He is the God,” (Quran 2:133)  Therefore this God that Jacob worshipped is the God that Abraham, Isaac worshipped, and is your brutal serial killer Yahweh God that Muslims worship today!  Understood, or do I need to get my neighbors 2 grader boy within this forum after school to explain it to you more simply, huh?

Therefore at your bewildering expense once again, the blatant FACTS shown above make you the continued historicity of religions a FOOL because ALL, and I repeat, ALL Abrahamic Religions share the SAME ONE GOD as explicitly shown, but not the same religion, no matter the disturbing outcome it may show!  2+2=4, and oil and water don't mix, and you remain one of the most Bible ignorant Hebrews this forum has ever seen!


ROSENDS, now, get your sorrowful ass back into the Flat Earth thread once again, where I will continue to show your blatant ignorance in that thread as well, understood? GO, RUN, GET THERE SO I CAN EASILY SHOW YOUR CONTINUED BIBLE STUPIDITY, HURRY!  I SAID GO!  LOL!

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Timid8967,

YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE IN POST #26: "So please stick to the specific topic.  Muslim and Jewish god or gods. christianity is irrelevant in this thread. "

Christianity is NOT irrelevant to your thread because of the simple FACT that Jesus is Yahweh God incarnate, understood?  Therefore Jesus is in the mix of your titled thread as well if the serial killer God Yahweh is concerned, get it?  :(. To save time, actually LEARN about the religions that you talk about, okay? Thank you.

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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from futher embarrassment within this forum,


YOUR QUOTE OF BEING BEREFT AND NONSENCICAL: “I'll type slowly and use small words because I want you to be able to follow along and you might not have access to an aide who can help you with the tough parts.”
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6132-is-the-god-of-the-muslims-the-same-as-the-jewish-god?page=1&post_number=21

ROSENDS, to help me in trying to understand your wanting intellect, show us in how one can tell when you typed slowly!  Therefore, which parts can be visually seen in your post #21 within this thread where you actually typed slowly like you said you did? 

To the membership, this is the inept mental state from ROSENDS as shown, and that I have to deal with when easily making him the outright Hebrew Bible fool!  LOL

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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

YOUR BEREFT QUOTE TO RUN AWAY FROM A SIMPLE PROPOSITION "5 TIMES" IN YOUR POST #70 THAT I POSED TO YOU IN MY POST #68: "funny thing -- not only did I go through the quotes and explained, but if you want to stick to "what the bible says, the bible means" literalism, then the bible never says that the world has corners, only that the land does. How can you defend a connotative understanding of the word a-r-tz (land) and expect only a literal one for k-n-f?"

You DID NOT take each passage as requested to individually show your quoted notion of "along with other ideas"  that precludes to the various Hebrew definitions of the word "corners,"  instead in your normal fashion upon this forum, you ran away from them again  in front of the membership in your wanting post #70! LOL!


Since you are an habitual run away from your Tanakh Hebrew Bible, then can you tell us a Hebrew within this forum that would not runaway from discussion pertaining to your quote herewith: "along with other ideas," which relates to "corners" with various definitions that you continually RUN AWAY from in my passages in question that ou were to address under the term "Along with other ideas."   https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=2&post_number=49


ROSENDS, take your running shoes off in the time being, and grant my request above so the membership can hopefully this time get a response from another Hebrew upon the topic shown above that does not runaway from it, thanking you in advance.  


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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one,

YOUR TIRING QUOTE ONCE AGAIN, WHERE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!: "You claim that God directly wrote the verses in the Bible that talks about a flat Earth, yet evidence shows that Earth is round." 

To save yourself further embarrassment in front of the membership, look up the word "ANACHRONISTIC," that I have used with you before, and then get back to me, okay?  Thanks.

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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

To the main topic AGAIN FOR THE 4TH TIME, I gave you a very simple proposition to follow in my post #55 shown above and relating to when you stated the following comical scenario: “You're embarrassing yourself. I mean, that's a nice shtick, sure, but you must have missed where I pointed out that the root used in the 3 examples you cited is not the root for "corner" but a word that has the sense of "corner" ALONG WITH OTHER IDEAS. Did you miss my mention of p-a-h and q-r-n?”

ONCE AGAIN in your chagrin, you are to show the membership the OTHER IDEAS part of your statement above relating to the passages listed below pertaining to the term "corners," where your subsequent gibberish to this point in your posts don't  give examples as requested, but only runs away from them since the term OTHER IDEAS preclude there is more than one example, get it?  You gave your definition above, now follow it for the entire membership and show EACH PASSAGE below in how the word "corners" are defined without any more Hebrew mumbo-jumbo, get it?  

Now, in your embarrassment, if you can't defend your Hebrew faith in this respect as shown above, can you tell us of someone that can within this forum?!

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He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

You whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off”(Isaiah 41:9)

Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.” (Job 37:3).

Rosends, Iam including the New Testament mentioning of 4 corners, and corners in general because of the simple fact that my Jesus is your Yahweh God incarnate, therefore they are the same God in the mentioning of corners in the following passages, understood? Do you need further simple explanation upon this simple proposition? Huh?

And saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. (Acts 10:11)

“I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision, something like a great sheet descending, being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to me.” (Acts 11:5)

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.” (Revelation 20:7-8)

Another flat earth approach, which is one of MANY, is the following passage: “Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.” (Isaiah 24:1). Only a flat earth can be turned upside down to scatter its inhabitants, GET IT ROSENDS, THE HEBREW BIBLE FOOL?  Give your ungodly "what the Bible literally says, is not what the Bible means" apologetic and hermeneutic spin!  

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Benjamin,

YOUR QUOTE: "Also, you claim that God is lying when he says that the Earth is flat, which is obviously not the case --- we literally have images proving the Earth is round as I showed before."

Refresh my memory when I said that my serial killer Yahweh/Jesus was lying relative to the earth being flat. Your statement that we have images showing the earth is not flat, is irrelevant because you are being anachronistic, whereas Yahweh/Jesus says it is flat!  In turn, are you calling Yahweh/Jesus a LIAR???!!!  BLASPHEME!

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YOUR QUOTE RELATIVE TO YAHWEH/JESUS' WORDS: "BrotherDThomas, you claim that the entirety of the Bible is the direct word of God, such as to claim that the Biblical view of Earth as flat is a requirement for Christians to believe in. Let me show you a verse in the Bible that clearly shows us that there are places in the Bible where HUMANS wrote something."

Try and understand that EVERY word within the JUDEO-Christian Bible is "inspired" directly from my brutal serial killer Yahweh/Jesus.  “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

Therefore, doing the simple math, since EVERY word of Yahweh/Jesus in stating that the earth is FLAT, is directly from Him as God, therefore who is anyone to argue against Him by saying that the earth is not flat!  Get it?


YOUR MISINFORMED QUOTE: "Your claim that the entire Bible is written by God implies that God is LYING by calling his own words the words of Nehemiah?  How dare you slap your Jewish Genocidal Jesus/Yahwe God in the face by claiming that he is a liar."

After reading and understanding 1 Thessalonians 2:13 shown above, the TRUE Christian like myself has to accept that when Nehemiah spoke within the scriptures, he spoke words inspired by Yahweh/Jesus irrelative of who is calling one a liar.  Get it?


Now, if you really want to hear some gobbledygook jibber-jabber upon your questions, have the runaway from Hebrew Biblical axioms ROSENDS explain your questions since they are in his Old Testament as being a Jew.  If you do seek his rendition, get a towel out because you will be crying in laughter! 


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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from futher embarrassment within this forum,

To the main topic AGAIN FOR THE 3RD TIME, I gave you a very simple proposition to follow in my post #55 shown above and relating to when you stated the following comical scenario: “You're embarrassing yourself. I mean, that's a nice shtick, sure, but you must have missed where I pointed out that the root used in the 3 examples you cited is not the root for "corner" but a word that has the sense of "corner" along with other ideas. Did you miss my mention of p-a-h and q-r-n?”

Therefore in relating to your statement above, you were to enlighten the membership in using insidious Hebrew apologetics and hermeneutics to explain how “corners” when used in the following passages, were not what they actually meant, but as you comically said, "could be a word that has the 'sense' of being a corner along with other ideas that could be used for the word 'corner", understood?  Your priceless gobbledygook thereof should be easy for you to use, is it not? LOL!


Therefore,  TRY AGAIN FOR THE 3RD TIME to show what "corners" actually meant in the following EACH PASSAGE to address any variants thereof, okay? The membership has now WAITED 3 TIMES FOR YOU TO PERFORM THIS ACT, whereas you keep running away from what you proposed by not giving EXAMPLES to the passages below regarding corners!!!

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He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

You whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off”(Isaiah 41:9)

Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.” (Job 37:3).

Rosends, Iam including the New Testament mentioning of 4 corners, and corners in general because of the simple fact that my Jesus is your Yahweh God incarnate, therefore they are the same God in the mentioning of corners in the following passages, understood? Do you need further simple explanation upon this simple proposition? Huh?

And saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. (Acts 10:11)

“I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision, something like a great sheet descending, being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to me.” (Acts 11:5)

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.” (Revelation 20:7-8)

Another flat earth approach, which is one of MANY, is the following passage: “Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.” (Isaiah 24:1). Only a flat earth can be turned upside down to scatter its inhabitants, GET IT ROSENDS, THE HEBREW BIBLE FOOL?  Give your ungodly "what the Bible literally says, is not what the Bible means" apologetic and hermeneutic spin!  


ROSENDS, now I have to keep track of how many times you will RUN AWAY from your proposed "corner" examples in your post #49, like I had to do in my post of you RUNNING AWAY for you to even start answering this topic in my link below! LOL!


Seriously, can you call for "help" from a Jewish friend that you may have, so he can help you out in this embarrassing predicament that you are now as the membership still awaits your perceived knowledge upon the topic above? Yes?


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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR,

To the main topic, I gave you a very simple proposition to follow in my post #55 shown above and relating to when you stated the following comical scenario: “You're embarrassing yourself. I mean, that's a nice shtick, sure, but you must have missed where I pointed out that the root used in the 3 examples you cited is not the root for "corner" but a word that has the sense of "corner" along with other ideas. Did you miss my mention of p-a-h and q-r-n?”

Therefore in relating to your statement above, you were to enlighten the membership in using insidious Hebrew apologetics and hermeneutics to explain how “corners” when used in the following passages, were not what they actually meant, but as you comically said, "could be a word that has the 'sense' of being a corner along with other ideas that could be used for the word 'corner", understood?  Your priceless gobbledygook thereof should be easy for you to use, is it not? LOL!


Therefore, so as to give you somewhat of having a minuscule of validity within this forum, TRY AGAIN to show what "corners" actually meant in the following EACH PASSAGE to address any variants thereof, okay? The membership thank you in advance. 

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He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

You whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off”(Isaiah 41:9)

Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.” (Job 37:3).

Rosends, Iam including the New Testament mentioning of 4 corners, and corners in general because of the simple fact that my Jesus is your Yahweh God incarnate, therefore they are the same God in the mentioning of corners in the following passages, understood? Do you need further simple explanation upon this simple proposition? Huh?

And saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. (Acts 10:11)

“I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision, something like a great sheet descending, being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to me.” (Acts 11:5)

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.” (Revelation 20:7-8)

Another flat earth approach, which is one of MANY, is the following passage: “Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.” (Isaiah 24:1). Only a flat earth can be turned upside down to scatter its inhabitants, GET IT ROSENDS, THE HEBREW BIBLE FOOL?  Give your ungodly "what the Bible literally says, is not what the Bible means" apologetic and hermeneutic spin!  


ROSENDS, hopefully the above request  will not be like you running away 5 times upon this topic before you had the balls to address it without child like non sequitur responses as shown in this embarrassing link for you: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=2&post_number=28


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YOUR SLAPPING YAWHEH/JESUS GOD IN THE FACE QUOTE:  "The wording of the Bible shows us that the writers thought the Earth was flat. But it is neither a doctrine of Christianity nor teaching of the Bible that I need to view the world as David did or any other Biblical person."

First off, a correction for you, it was not the writers of the JUDEO-Christian Bible, but Jesus being Yahweh god incarnate that wrote the inspired words within the  scriptures (1 Thessalonians 2:13).    Furthermore, where do you get the authority to state that when Yahweh/Jesus states in His inspired words that the earth is flat in many passages, and then you state that you do not need to be taught this proposition is blaspheme! The flat earth biblical axioms is recognition of the JUDEO-Christian Bible being truthful!  How dare you slap Yahweh/Jesus in the face in this respect?

Don't be like the ever so dumbfounded of the Hebrew Bible ROSENDS, where when he disagrees with his brutal serial killer Yahweh God on the flat earth passages,  he is essentially calling his Hebrew Yahweh god a LIAR!  Understood?  Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.” (Matthew 4:4) Since the JUDEO-Christian Bible is inspired by Yahweh/Jesus (1 Thessalonians 2:13), then His word is true in the earth being flat!

“Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5)  EVERY word includes the passages of the earth being FLAT, and therefore being flawless, get it?  


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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR,

Continuing to easily refute your quest to make your Hebrew Bible ungodly and not an absolute in its outcomes of direct concepts such as “4 corners” therefore signifying the earth is flat ……


Listen, give us some more comedic air and show us that when it is listed in the passages below relating to 4 corners, or corner in general, where you state it does not mean what it literally says of 4 90 degree corners, but you say it means something else, therefore give us that "something else,” IN EACH PASSAGE BELOW, to show variants, okay? The membership wants to see your Hebrew apologetics and hermeneutics spin doctoring at work, and soon to be at your expense! Ready?
 
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He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

You whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off”(Isaiah 41:9)

Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.” (Job 37:3).

Rosends, Iam including the New Testament mentioning of 4 corners because of the simple fact that my Jesus is your Yahweh God incarnate, therefore they are the same God in the mentioning of 4 corners in the following passages, understood? Do you need further simple explanation upon this simple proposition? Huh?

And saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. (Acts 10:11)

“I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision, something like a great sheet descending, being let down from heaven
by its four corners, and it came down to me.” (Acts 11:5)

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.” (Revelation 20:7-8)

Another flat earth approach, which is one of MANY, is the following passage: “Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.” (Isaiah 24:1). Only a flat earth can be turned upside down to scatter its inhabitants, GET IT ROSENDS, THE HEBREW BIBLE FOOL?  Give your ungodly "what the Bible literally says, is not what the Bible means" apologetic and hermeneutic spin!  


To save yourself further embarrassment within this esteemed forum, I will not show you the points that I made to you in my previous posts that you obviously missed to save what face you have left within this forum, therefore in making you the continued Hebrew Bible fool, okay? You can thank me later. In closing, your wishy-washy non absolute explanation upon the 4 corner bible propositions should be a skit on Saturday Night Live seriously! LOL!

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DEBATEART RELIGION FORUM MODERATORS, WE HAVE ANOTHER CLEAN UP ON ISLE 666 WHERE THE HEBREW BIBLE IGNORANT "ROSENDS" HAS RUN AWAY ONCE AGAIN FROM HIS HEBREW BIBLE AND IS PROMOTING NON-ABSOLUTE OUTCOMES TO YAHWEH’S DIRECT WORDS OF A 4-CORNERED EARTH!

Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh a LIAR,

Regarding my quote to you in my post #48 shown in the link below, you decided for me to continue your outright HEBREW Bible ignorance, so be it at your expense!
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=2&post_number=48


YOUR SNL COMEDY QUOTE TO HIDE IN WHAT YAHWEH DIRECTLY STATED TO HIS JEWISH FOLLOWERS: “You're embarrassing yourself. I mean, that's a nice shtick, sure, but you must have missed where I pointed out that the root used in the 3 examples you cited is not the root for "corner" but a word that has the sense of a "corner" along with other ideas. Did you miss my mention of p-a-h and q-r-n?”

With your Saturday Night Live comedy skit shown above, you proffered the following laughable propositions, ready? Members, get a towel to cry into with laugher before you read the following Rosend quotes:

1. You state that what a Jew reads directly as the normal definition of the word “corner,” as being a 90 degree angle, is not what is really proposed in an insidious Jewish apologetic spin! LOL!

2. You state that the word “corner” in insidious Hebrew apologetics has a "sense of being an actual corner,” but not in an absolute way!  LOL!

3. You state that the word “corner” can have “other ideas” of its meaning, therefore again, not in an absolute way! LOL!

In ALL of your laughable propositions above, there is NOT ONE given in a total absolute conclusion, NONE!  Therefore, you build your ungodly Hebrew faith upon “Maybes,” “What ifs” and “Wishful Thinking,” to name only a few of your farcical Comedy Skits shown in your initial quote above!  Priceless!


CONTINUING ONCE AGAIN YOUR SATANIC DEVIL SPEAK UPON YOUR REWRITES OF THE HEBREW BIBLE >>>>>

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@Reece101


Reece101,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE TO ME TO  BIBLE SLAP SILLY ROSENDS BIBLICAL IGNORANCE:  "I call upon the almighty BrotherDThomas!! "

Thank you for the "heads up" upon certain Bible ignorant fools relative to the main topic at hand within this thread.  

Because of the different divisions of pseudo-christians are making fools of themselves relative to the main topic, and the dumbfounded Hebrew Rosends  as well, Jesus' words and I are kept quite busy within this forum alone as the following link below explicitly shows:

In the name of the hung Savior,

Brother D, Thomas

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@rosends

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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, and calls His Yahweh God a LIAR,

YOUR DECEIVING AND LYING QUOTE: "the two religions share a God concept but have different actual Gods in that each claims that the God did something that the other did not do, so they cannot be the same."

As if your outright ungodly misinformation wasn't enough in the Flat Earth thread,  now you insidiously propose that the Gods in question are not the same? WTF!  Rosends, when does your Bible and religious history stupidity ever end?!!! 


ENOUGH of your Satanic Devil Speak within this forum where I will prove that your brutal serial killer God Yahweh, Jesus, and Allah are the same god through the decent of Abraham, you Bible ignorant fool!  Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are the Abrahamic Religions, and their particular Gods named below are the same god, period!

HEBREW YAHWEH God is through Abraham:
And he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.” (Exodus 3:6)

CHRISTIAN JESUS God is through Abraham:
Jesus said: “I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[a]? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” (Matthew 22:32)

MUSLIM ALLAH God is through Abraham:
Say you: 'We believe in God, and in that which has been sent down on us and sent down on Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac and Jacob, and the Tribes, and that which was given to Moses and Jesus and the Prophets, of their Lord; we make no division between any of them, and to Him we surrender.’ (Quran, chapter 2, verse 136)


Rosends, isn’t it about time that you go to where you will be more comfortable with your complete Hebrew Bible ignorance? Here is an appropriate “Children’s Hebrew Forum” for you to reside in, okay? You can thank me later: https://www.jewishedproject.org

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@SkepticalOne


SkepticalOne,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "How do you define God and how did you come to this definition?"

In your future posts upon this topic, you should mention "which God" one is referring too, remember?  This is because the remaining 3 Gods, that are the same god,  are the Hebrew Yahweh, the Christian Jesus, and the Muslim Allah, all from the blood line of Abraham, but in their biblical writings, all contradict each other which is another disturbing topic to be discussed, and hopefully without the pseudo-christians within this thread at this time would not RUN AWAY from! LOL

Since I am the ONLY True Christian within this esteemed forum, I have to be biblically honest and accept that my God JESUS  is described in the following ways as explicitly shown within the JUDEO-Christian Bible.  Whereas Jesus is greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent primitive Bronze and Iron Age Yahweh/Jesus god.

Therefore as shown above, I easily came to the above decision because I actually READ THE JUDEO-Christian Bible, and not be spoon fed of its content like EVERY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN of various contradicting DIVISIONS of Christianity like is shown within your thread at this time!  Praise Jesus' true modus operandi!  

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Dr.Franklin,

YOUR SOON TO BE A VERY CHALLENGING TIME FOR YOU IN YOUR QUOTE HEREWITH:  "There is no evidence that it teaches a flat earth, i have debated brotherD on this topic before"

I will now include YOU in this discussion in the future, understood?  You therefore DO NOT want to run away from your upcoming discussion upon this topic, because it will show Jesus and the membership that you have RUN AWAY from JESUS' direct words as stated, understood?  Yes you do.

Therefore what do you think about the following links upon this topic, whereas you can take them one at a time in posting back to me, okay? Again, I am looking forward to our discussion upon this topic. You're welcome:



DR.FRANKLIN, DO NOT GIVE ANY LAME CHILD-LIKE EXCUSE TO RUN AWAY, OKAY? YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IT DOWN WITHIN THIS FORUM IF YOU DO, UNDERSTOOD?

YOU CAN BEGIN: 

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@rosends



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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh a LIAR,

In continuance and referring to Isaiah 11:12 where this prophet said the earth has 4 corners, therefore having to be FLAT:

You have ran away from this biblical axiom 5 times above in this thread before you “attempted” to make reason of it, which says a lot, and when you did in your feeble post #30 and #44, it went severely wanting, as usual.  This is comically because within your Tanakh it DID NOT translate “corner” into what you said it could  “possibly be,” but left the word “corner” as the term it is to be meant, which is CORNER, a 90 degree position in this case to have the earth FLAT, and of which you are in as in a corner by making unsubstantiated ungodly claims! GET IT? LOL

In your admitted propositions in your feeble posts upon this topic, where you yourself are not sure in what 4 corners is exactly referring too, whereas the earth having 4 corners does not mean clothing, it does not mean wings, it does not mean cardinal directions, and your comical perceived notion, it cannot mean a 2D of a spherical globe which cannot have corners to begin with, HELLO, anybody home today?! LOL!   Therefore in this instance amongst others, your fishing expedition LITERALLY has fallen FLAT, like the earth, upon its face!


Therefore, I suggest that to save yourself any further embarrassment upon this topic alone, where you should remain silent and accept your ignorance upon this topic. If not, I can further your ignorance along if you wish in even a more embarrassing way in front of the membership, understood? YOUR CHOICE!

Using a JUDEO-Christian reference, you are guilty of this passage by “our” Gods herewith: “Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.” (John 8:47).  Do you need further explanation of this godly edict?


Sorry to show your continued Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorance as  shown to Yahweh and the membership in this post and including my post #47 above, really.  :(

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@rosends


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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, and calls His Yahweh God a LIAR,

Once again, you sidestep the majority of my biblical  propositions in my posts 33, 34, and 35, what’s new? NOTHING!  Why do you continued to RUN AWAY from YAHWEH’S godly biblical axioms?


YOUR BIBLICAL IGNORANCE ONCE AGAIN IN YOUR POST #30 REGARDING ISAIAH 11:12:  “ Literally speaking, the text never says that the world has 4 corners.”

The passage of Isaiah 11:12 in question is shown within the following HEBREW and Christian writings:

1. JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE
“He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

2. HEBREW BIBLE, THE BOOK OF YESHAYAHU, ISAIAH 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. (Hebrew Bible, The Book of Yeshayahu, Isaiah 11:12)

3. HEBREW TANAKH, ISAIAH 11:12
“And He shall raise a banner to the nations, and He shall gather the lost of Israel, and the scattered ones of Judah He shall gather from the four corners of the earth.”
 יבוְנָשָֹ֤א נֵס֙ לַגּוֹיִ֔ם וְאָסַ֖ף נִדְחֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל וּנְפֻצ֚וֹת יְהוּדָה֙ יְקַבֵּ֔ץ מֵֽאַרְבַּ֖ע כַּנְפ֥וֹת הָאָֽרֶץ


Without any more ungodly spin doctoring from your Bible ignorance relative to your Jewish faith, where the explicit words as written and to be understood as what they actually say and represent within the Christian and Hebrew writings in the 3 references numbered above, in turn show without a doubt that the earth has 4 corners and therefore being FLAT, period!   If the 4 corner reference was not to be meant as metaphorical as you comically stated, and was easily corrected by me, then it could have been written as such, but it wasn’t!  Understood?


CONTINUED AT YOUR EMBARRASSING EXPENSE ONCE AGAIN >>>>>>


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@Timid8967


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Timid8967, to scared to create a biography, and now a blatant LIAR, and who RUNS AWAY when shown to be “who he pretends to be” doesn’t work anymore, and doesn't know when to just STFU to save himself further embarrassment,


YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: "aren't Christians mean to be humble and meek? "

Barring your horrific syntax in your sentence above, NO, TRUE Christians like me are not to be humble and meek as Jesus set the following example herewith: When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” (John 2:13-16)"

Barring the fact that I am not using a "whip of cords" upon you as Jesus did to the ungodly within the temple,  I still act in the way Jesus did in taking no prisoners relative to the hell bound Atheists and the ever so dumbfounded pseudo-christians like you that are unfortunately roaming around this forum in their total ineptness of the JUDEO-Christian Bible.


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@Timid8967


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Timid8967, to scared to create a biography, and now a blatant LIAR, and who RUNS AWAY when shown to be “who he pretends to be” doesn’t work anymore, and doesn't know when to just STFU to save himself further embarrassment,


YOUR HYPOCRITICAL QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN POST #36: "Given your perspective on the world as a Christian, this should not surprise me."

Uh, you said I was not a Christian as the link below so states, and now you propose that I am a Christian in your quote above, so once again you are a blatant hypocritical LIAR! What's new? NOTHING! LOL!

"You are so obviously a fake, and not even a funny one, that it does embarrass non-theists like me when I read the stuff that you write." https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=1&post_number=24


YOUR QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN PROVING YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF CHRISTIANITY: "I prefer the fires of Gehenna than the trenches you exist in."

Again, you slipped on your Freudian in your acceptance that the fires of Gehenna exists in the Hebrew Bible of the Old Testament! Therefore, you are a Christian like I have proposed ad infinitum!  Whoops!  LOL


Timid8967, you have yet to learn that there are times like you are in at the present, when you are to just accept your hypocritical stance as shown and your ever so wanting embarrassing existence within this prestigious forum as explicitly shown in my post #35, to when you have to just STFU and not create further embarrassment for you, understood? Huh? Maybe? 

Now, shhhhhhhh, quit easily making yourself the outright hypocritical fool in this forum, okay?  Shhhhhhhhh ................


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@Timid8967


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Timid8967, to scared to create a biography, and now a blatant LIAR, and who RUNS AWAY when shown to be “who he pretends to be” doesn’t work anymore, 

TIMID7867 SORROWFUL QUOTE TO ME IN FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP: “Given your inability to engage with humor, there is little point in engaging you with argument.” 
THEREFORE, DEBATEART RELIGION FORUM MODERATORS, WE HAVE A CLEAN UP IN ISLE 666 BECAUSE TIMID8967 THRU IN THE TOWEL OF DEFEAT WITH ME RELATIVE TO HIM BEING SHOWN TO BE THE FOOL RELATIVE TO TRYING TO BE AGAINST CHRISTIANITY WITH HIS HYPOCRISY!


As if myself and other astute religion discussion members of this forum haven’t seen before, poor ol’ Timid8967 couldn’t take logical and rational thinking from me on the topics in question. Therefore, he had to bail out of serious discussion relative to his outright ignorance upon the topics shown in the links below!






What vestige of credibility Timid8967 had left within this forum, is now gone because what he thought he knew, he actually didn’t!  Sad. :(

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