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@ILikePie5
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I suppose it doesn't matter anyways. It'll be revealed tomorrow regardless.
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@Greyparrot
It doesn't matter if it's Hammer or Vaarka lynched to me at this point.
@Greyparrot- is his claim really gonna change anything? It won't to me tbh
@Greyparrot- is his claim really gonna change anything? It won't to me tbh
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my point about his statement to town regarding doc still stands as pretty sus xD.
His as in Vaarka.
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I for the life of me do not understand why I saw GP when I read that. Maybe it was cause I've been itching to get that read out since this morning 😂
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Town
Supa
Danielle
Drafter
Rational
GP
Null
Nobody
Sus
Scum
Vaarka
Hammer
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@drafterman
Oh shit, LMAO. Well he was the PoE if the two proposed were wrong anyways. Other than looking silly for thinking GP was the one who died, my point about his statement to town regarding doc still stands as pretty sus xD.
I was going back over the DP and that stuck TF out to me in retrospect. I think GP is town based off that too.
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Hammer/Vaarka for scum team? If not Hammer, Earth/Vaarka.I wanna hear hammers claim, then Lynch Vaarka based off that.
Being that Vaarka is scum in either possibility. Its important to note that Earth played generally reserved regardless of affiliation in beginners 1.0 from what I remember.
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I hope GP wasnt doc, doc needs to be on me tonite. Vaarka is other scum most likely fmpov.
Vaarkas suggestion last DP that i not get doc under any circumstance. was entirely anti-town. I'm either a guaranteed lynch or a guaranteed confirmation. The guaranteed confirmation, even if untrue is much better odds than hoping for a random save on anyone else.
GP was the only other person who otherwise discussed it and put forward that he hoped protective roles were in game to protect me.
Also note, though Vaarka did vote Hammer who I still think is scum, it wasn't till I called him out on it. He voted GP at first and tried to start a separate wagon.
Hammer/Vaarka for scum team? If not Hammer, Earth/Vaarka.
I wanna hear hammers claim, then Lynch Vaarka based off that.
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Supa
Danielle
Drafter
Rational
Null
Nobody
Sus
Earth(by PoE if either Hammer or Vaarka flip town and lack of substantive activity.)
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@bsh1
I'll admit "that whole section" was maybe a smidge hyperbole 😉
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@bsh1
People admitted to leaving the site as a result of technical glitches-
Some, yes. And there were threads devoted to percieved wrong treatment by moderators as well. Usually focused around how one person was banned for doing X(such as flame wars), while others were not. Or things of similar issue of percieved unjust treatment(like issues with RO's.)
Are you going to next claim its absurd for me to say that percieved poor/unfair/inconsistent moderation doesn't cause people to leave a site? If you were in a rec sports or otherwise league where you thought officiating was 100% biased AF, you gonna keep playing in that league if you can find another one?
"this person did this and got banned, this person did and was not." Complaints of unjustness, inconsistent application, all these things will be percieved regardless. But I would find it equally absurd to state that highly subjective sections such as the "personal attack" section in many parts would not play a role in those types of issues.
Moderation did not substantially tighten after the implementation of the COC
I never said it did?
your claim that we ought not to use the COC
That wasn't my claim bud. Simmer down, take some deep breaths hombre.
That whole personal attack section is tortured AF and a hot mess.
Again, I take issue with this section mainly. It's a well intentioned section. Sections 1, 3, and 7 under "personal attacks" are the specific sections i take issue with.
I'll also amend that with sections 6, 9, and 10 of "other prohibited conduct." As well. But these other three except for 9 are tangential to the main issue that I see with sections 1, 3, and 7.
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@bsh1
I think it is a patently absurd claim to suggest that the COC was the cause of DDO's decline, which is basically what you're doing here
The only cause? No. A major one? No. But it's not absurd to say it didn't help.
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@bsh1
This is, essentially, the same COC that Max created for DDO, with only limited alterations.
And it was a hot mess then too.
The COC functions well on DDO, and I see no reason why it cannot function well here
And that CoC was active previous to and throughout the fall of DDO. Do you often repeat things from failed endeavours?
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@EtrnlVw
@Castin
@bsh1
(speech as a personal attack is garbage. That whole personal attack section is tortured AF and a hot mess. You literally used fighting words, when that has rarely been applied and only to accusations of severe crimes.
Not to mention the example provided, "you're all stupid" applies to the "you are dishonest." If dishonest actions are evidence of a dishonest person. Stupid actions are evidence of a stupid person.
That whole section is leftbook garbage, period.
It strikes me as very contextual and interpretive, moderation-wise.
This being why, because that whole section is a mess of subjectivity trying and failing to masquerade as objectivity. Harassing someone repeatedly is one thing. Dropping a "you're stupid" and leaving it at that? Far from what should be deemed punishable wrongdoing.
It should be a universal rule in forums that anyone who stoops to the level of calling others deluded has forfeited their position and is not worthy of intellectual interaction in that exchange.
Nobody is preventing you from acting upon that standard yourself. The issue is that you want to dictate how everyone else takes it, and have it be a universal operative that everyone abides by. And what qualifications as a paragon of virtue and moral acting would you have to dictate that?
I think we should make this place easy for newcomers to feel like they can join and speak their minds freely and politely no matter what side they are on. But maybe I'm a dreamer
Do mean words directly prevent a person from otherwise speaking their mind? If you say X, and nobody is stopping you from saying it, How is mean words in response to that changing that a person is still able to speak freely?
Speaking freely does not mean the ability to speak without response, even if that response is in the form of mean words. Speaking freely means you can speak, and nobody is going to stop you from doing so.
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@drafterman
It takes a week of downtime
(If multiple weapons are being made, does the downtime run concurrent or combined? Ex: 2 silverings = 1 week, or 2 weeks total?)
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I call out to the kneeling priest as i begin walking up slowly. Looking around to see if I percieve anything wrong with the situation beyond, well, the scream. At the ready to disengage should something go awry.
Excuse me, are we interrupting anything?
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(banker/bard/medic/real estate agent/musician/poet/rogue/smooth talking Snerp at your service 😂.)
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(245 gold - 24.5(10% group fee to be set aside for emergency use on a rainy day) = 220.5g.
220.5g ÷ 5 = 44.1g. So basically we all are gonna get 44g each assuming a 5 way split, less 10% being set aside for a rainy day for the whole group 😂😂)
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@drafterman
(seeing as we Don't need to worry about food, can you retcon selling the mess kit? It's pretty much a paperweight for whoever is carrying it. A really heavy paperweight 😂😂)
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@Earth
People were implying there was a smithy in town.
(How? I straight up asked the shopkeep whether there was or not and he said no 😉)
(Are you proficient in smithing(no fresh prince 😂)? That's how you would be able to silver things no? Because silvering a weapon requires reforging the blade, which requires a forge, anvil, and grindstone like is the case with actual smithing.)
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@Earth
(gonna need a smithy to do that and there is no smithy and thus no way to... well... smith things in town. Also, what silver you gonna use?
Unless Roberts has some sort of kit that allows for that? )
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
(I can see it now, "Roberts Artisan and Smithy Emporium!" Prime location, center market, in the major city of Baldur's Gate on the scenic Sword Coast!
With special weekly performances by Snerp and the Snerpettes to draw in casual customers 💯💯)
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
(if you have the coin.....)
(Khajit has the wares if you have the coin 😏 😂)
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
(you could prolly blade my bow so i can use it both at range and as a melee weapon, you artisan you.👍👍)
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@kindertina
(this is why for example in the R.A. Salvatore novels, the group had to generally keep that he was a drow under wraps unless among close friends and allies.
If I recall, that he was got them run out of places on more than one occasion 😂.)
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@kindertina
(be careful about people finding out ur a Drow. They are generally disliked and could potentially result in us getting run out of a place as those not from the underdark and even many races who are, harbor extreme distrust of drow.)
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Silvered and magically-enchanted are not damage types of their own, but are also important for overcoming resistances.")
(Ah, hold onto it then. I'll make do with two daggers. Though being honest shouldn't be up in peoples faces as squishy as i am anyways 😂😂)
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@Earth
The barkeep gives Grahf the same treatment as Luraxt, who both then take seats across from the man. He smiles warmly as they sit down.
(Good thing ur there given that you have a high charisma and insight 👍👍)
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@drafterman
(I assume the only usable spell slots i have are the level 2 ones? The level 1 ones are still exhausted till long rest?)
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@secularmerlin
Eikka does indeed stride into the church towards the sound of prayer
(I would think it'd be the screaming. But suppose we should talk to whoever is praying first lol )
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@secularmerlin
So uhhhh, are we gonna come back at a better time or investigate? (@secular- Cause i know it's gonna happen 😂😂)
As it finish, I look over at Eikka to see she isn't there anymore and has pressed into the church and rush to catch up with her.
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@secularmerlin
Yeah and she's headed for church with bearded Macaulay Culkin.)
(Gnome Alone 1 & 2 😂😂😂)
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@kindertina
(It's princess Fionna from shrek.)
(So ur saying ur an onion then? 😋)
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Shall we head inside then?
I walk into the church
Hellooooooo?! Anyone home?!
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@Earth
(Post 1441:)
(As far as the store's inventory, he has anything here with a base price of 25gp or less)
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
here's my concern, the short sword can damage what the long sword can not
(They both do the same kind of damage? So if something can't be damaged from a LS via piercing/slashing. the short sword won't do anything either?)
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@secularmerlin
@Earth
@TheDredPriateRoberts
@drafterman
@kindertina
including the 245gp from the sale of previous goods; I forgot about a necklace that you have found, so I sold it at the same rate as the other stuff)
(@Everyone- we just entered into the top 1% of wealth holders in Faerun. May I suggest we stop associating with the dirty common folk as we are now wealthy land owning elites? 😂😂)
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@drafterman
(ah ok, either way, think i got a good idea for a pretty slick attack combo, no? 👍)
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@drafterman
say I keep both daggers. Can I throw the spare dagger, charge and attack wirh dagger+shortsword in same turn?)
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@drafterman
(say I'm using the dagger/shortsword in the future. Can I hypothetically throw the dagger from a distance, then close that distance and attack with the short sword in the same turn.
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(we should get rope at the merchants. 1g per 50 ft, maybe a 100-200 feet of it? Other than that there aren't many noteworthy items from what i can see looking at the list of things to buy the merchant has.)
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@drafterman
(if Roberts is cool with me taking the silver short sword cause I'm proficient and he can't dual wield it with his longsword, then yeah, I wanna sell the iron dagger. Just assume I sold it for what the shopkeep offered for it, zero bartering for simplicity sake in retconning the sale of it, just add the dagger minimum worth onto the haggled 70g sell price of everything. 👍)
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@drafterman
(Probably should let Grahf, Roberts and Luraxt catch up a bit)
(Agreed)
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
@drafterman
I actually forgot about this with Roberts, so Roberts can't dual wield a longsword andshortsword unless he later takes the dual wielderfeat)
(Somebody else should probably use the shortsword then. I can dual wield it with the bone dagger?)
@Drafter- can we retcon me selling the iron dagger in my possession? That is, assuming Roberts and everyone else is cool with me using it?)
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@secularmerlin
@Earth
@TheDredPriateRoberts
@kindertina
As Snerp questions the large man, he is continuing to stare at two wooden birds in his hand, trying to figure out which is red and which is blue. They're both orange. Just as Snerp walks out the door with Eikka, he raises his head. Huh?
(We'll have to go back for this so I can question him about this. Seems rather suspicious and a worthwhile hint. Maybe Kinder or Earth can use detect magic to see if they're magical. But I'm gonna go back and see if I can't get em off of the guy regardless, cause something tells me they're signifigant.)
Occasionally they'll catch a glimpse of a little old woman pushing a cart right as she turns a corner out of sight.
(Old Maggie no doubt, def gonna have to talk with her)
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@secularmerlin
(prestidigitation has alot of various uses, and Vicious Mockery is a pretty good debuff. I'll prob get it when I get another cantrip. I just don't like how it turns creatures hostile tbh. Limits it's usage to be frank.
There is charm in level 1 spells which doesn't have that effect. But I think the next non cantrip spell i learn is prob best used for another debuff like bane, or suggestion, or a damaging ability that would effectively be a DOT(damage over time) spell.)
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@secularmerlin
(check out this cantrip. Seems pretty dope except for how it turns creatures you use it on hostile. Probably would work great in a situation where we gotta get thru something or someone in a pinch that we'll be far away from once the cantrip wears off)
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