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Might as well claim at this point cause I basically already claimed: I have a gun. It's a generic gun at the bottom of drafter's role list.
A player with a gun has a 1-shot kill that may be used at any time during Day Phase. Players will notify the mod of their use and the target in their role PM. The shot will be processed by the mod when possible, but will be retroactive based on the time the owner submitted the action. Additional time will be added to the Day Phase to account for the time difference. The player retains the gun until it is used. Guns may be sabotaged and stolen. Sabotaged guns kill their owners when used. Unless otherwise specified, the use of the gun will randomly (50%) reveal the identity of the shooter.
So what we do is we lynch 2 people since we have 2 consecutive DPs, and we force a person to keep the bomb, and I kill a guy.
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Assuming 2 mafia,
Probablity of hitting both scum in the 4 kills: 12/42 (29%)
Probablity of hitting 1 scum in the 4 kills: 24/42 (57%)
Probablity of hitting no scum in the 4 kills: 6/42 (14%)
So there's a 57% chance we win outright, and a 29% chance we then have a 50/50 shot at winning. I like those odds.
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We can get 4 town-directed kills in a row, let me just math this out.
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This is pull 1:
Oh shit supa, u got hella unlucky
VTL Supa
I really did use RNG btw
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I'm gonna play a game of russian roulette with Supa: every 2 hours he doesn't claim, I'm gonna pull the trigger. If the gun fires I'm gonna VTL him regardless of how many votes are on his wagon.
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@Vader
I understand that, but it doesn't explain why you put a vote on him. Bullish hasn't put a vote on Chris despite him reading it as serious and he struggles with reading sarcasm and humor as well. I have no issue with that, but my issue comes with the VTL
my vote has been on chris for like the past 5 vote counts
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@warren42
So.. is he a twilight role or a day role??
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@warren42
I feel like there not being a theme split is true because there isn't a theme.
"Have you stopped beating your wife?" I feel like linguistically the answer is "null", but logically the answer is "no"
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@warren42
Why are people always so paranoid about 3p in games where 3p doesn't make sense?
Exactly, 3p hunting = scumtell as I've made myself clear a couple of games ago.
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@Vader
Idk what mafia roles are, whether they have either DP or NP actions. If we are going to take the assumption that town only have DP action (not an unlikely), if we decide to out roles and we end up outing are only NP action role as town, then mafia are one step ahead. In this game, mafia will always be one step ahead and the fact we will be outing ourselves serves nothing but to help mafia.
It says in the OP there could be NP roles.
Also the claim dynamic here is no different from a regular game where a town claim would put mafia ahead in terms of knowing to to kill/RB
I can prove myself next DP but it could cause town to lose the game if we mislynch or not lynch potentially, so pick yer poison
It sounds like you have a gun, in which case you don't have to worry about claiming. I have a gun and the explanation given in my PM implies there are other at least a few other guns.
Note that I accidentally posted here: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5548/post-links/240215 don't respond to that one.
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@Vader
above post for u
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Idk what mafia roles are, whether they have either DP or NP actions. If we are going to take the assumption that town only have DP action (not an unlikely), if we decide to out roles and we end up outing are only NP action role as town, then mafia are one step ahead. In this game, mafia will always be one step ahead and the fact we will be outing ourselves serves nothing but to help mafia.
It says in the OP there could be NP roles.
Also the claim dynamic here is no different from a regular game where a town claim would put mafia ahead in terms of knowing to to kill/RB
I can prove myself next DP but it could cause town to lose the game if we mislynch or not lynch potentially, so pick yer poison
It sounds like you have a gun, in which case you don't have to worry about claiming. I have a gun and the explanation given in my PM implies there are other at least a few other guns.
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Am I being fucking gaslighted? I legit see nothing that can be construed as a joke.
This is ending up like last game where I was confused till the end about how Lunatics role worked. Except in that game he was even weak vig, he lied about it, he was just regular 1x vig.
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@Lunatic
I didn't see the joke at all, there was nothing obvious about anything, and if there was a joke it wasn't funny. Sounds like scum backpedalling.
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Why'd we drop chris so fast, his explanation isn't satisfactory at all. I still want a claim from him.
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@ILikePie5
@MisterChris
is either of you mafia? You voted for me that's pretty sus.
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You are Lauren Boebert from Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District. You are what America needs in the halls of Congress
wanna talk about this
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So after white died none of the mafia left would have been copped guilty anyway
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Drafterman - Nancy Pelosi (D)- Strengthener
Lunatic - Lauren Boebert (R) - 1x Vig
Bullish - Ted Deutch (D) - cop
Warren - Drew Ferguson (R) - Deputy
Speed - Adam Smith (D) - Soldier
WaterPhoenix - Darrell Issa (R) - millionaire
This is a DP we have good reason to drag out. I'll organize my thoughts later today.
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@drafterman
What were your actions?
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I investigated supa for this reason:
Whiteflame called out me, warren, for being "inactive," but he never called out supa, even though supa posted less than I did. He also voted Water and Grey early in the DP "for activty, and a joke vote on Chris.I just checked Xmas mafia, he interacted very little with his scum partners pie and drafter.
idk why supa died considering he was probably the least town read person.
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I town read warren cause of his late entry DP1. He's told me before in my game to ping him on discord cause he checks that more often than DART. If he was mafia it would have been more likely that he was pinged over on discord.
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@drafterman
Character?
Drafterman - ???? - Strengthener
Lunatic - Lauren Boebert (R) - 1x Vig
Bullish - Ted Deutch (D) - cop
Warren - Drew Ferguson (R) - Deputy
Speed - Adam Smith (D) - Soldier
WaterPhoenix - Darrell Issa (R) - millionaire
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OK, the git is up, I am cop. My results are useless tho cause I investigated Chris NP1 and Supa NP2.
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Boebert was a democrat for 2 years. This could legit be D vs R.
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A long time ago someone on mafiascum told me the theory that if town has already determined a consensus direction to go in the DP, then we actually shouldn't reveal too much of our reads anymore because it shows our hand to scum.
So if your qualm is about lynching grey specifically, then I get it. But if your qualm is about ending the DP too early, then you shouldn't worry and just do the hammer already.
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VTL Grey
I have 1 more theory on who might be scum, but if we will focus on grey today, then I'd rather reveal that theory next DP.
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Grey's claim Hal Rogers is the 2nd most senior rep, after Don Young, who flipped scum. Senior vs junior split is possible.
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Pie is all about policy lynches right? Grey is even more negative utility than a miller, cause if cop investigates grey, not only would they get no result, they risk revealing their identity to the mafia. I'm down to lynch grey.
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@Greyparrot
That's a pretty scummy role since it has high scum utility if the cop investigates the electrician.
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@Lunatic
How he said his role works today is what it says on the wiki. So he's not lying right now. I think he can be careless both as town and scum but more likely town.
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@Greyparrot
can u ask pie, if a cop investigates you, would the cop receive no result?
And you would receive "innocent" or "player X investigated you and is innocent?"
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So I'm looking at the player list, and everyone has been town read at some point.
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@Lunatic
I seems our reads are very aligned, although for once I would have preferred if you didn't shoot.
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That was a very productive DP, we've established a solid town block IMO. The DP is almost 85% over, I'd be fine with a hammer on whiteflame.
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Warren is probably town cause if he was scum, his scum partner would probably have prompted him sooner.
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@Lunatic
Go back to school nerd
Lol I didn't want to bring this up, but it is you who needs to go back to school -- the amount of times you've used "your" in place of "you're" is physically hurting me.
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@Elminster
Although the way lunatic was pushing him this game was pretty bad. Lunatic said he didn't call whiteflames post "contradictory" even though he literally used the word "contradictory" in the post where he called out whiteflame.
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@Elminster
Does whiteflame always get offended when hes scum read?
Actually I do kind of recall this to be the case.
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@whiteflame
Well, at least you're here. I'll try to get Bullish back into this, but then I'm taking a break.UnvoteVTL Bullish
the irony of this post
VTL whiteflame
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@Lunatic
Does your role justification draw on recent events?
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