Bullish

if you 2 are still invested in the game, do not vote or vote to abstain!

Do not vote or vote to abstain! Especially you vader

Alright I'm just gonna take executive coordination on this thing...

You 3 vote Savant!

Earth - up to you whether you want to use your role

Whiteflame - sensor it up

Savant - thank you for your sacrifice

I wouldn't say Vader is very townie at all. He's role confirmed, not affiliation confirmed, and his usage of his role has been anti-town.

Ok here's the plan. 

1. we put Earth (allegedly 3x voter), whiteflame (our towniest player), and Savant himself on Savant. 

2. now we have potentially 5 votes on Savant, so it's highly unlikely scum can game this vote

3. everyone else abstains

4. earth reveals the votes to himself

5. whiteflame uses sensor on Savant

Results... 

A. If we Savant dies and we get 0 scum on the wagon, then the game's basically over. Town wins. 

Scenario A is most likely, so even if B and C aren't great, we should try for A.

yeah town fucked up bad

how many shots is your sensor?

Actually now that I'm planning this out it's not foolproof at all. We really fucked up by having Earth on this matchup, cause if mafia games the vote then we have no way of verifying who gamed it. 

Optimally we can get 2 of our towniest players to vote Savant, and everyone else abstains. If we get 2 town confirmations, that means town wins, cause mafia only gets 1 NK. So we just all vote for our confirmed town player to live and we win. 

The problem is that if there are 3 scum (the most likely balance IMO), then they can band together and vote earth. Or, if casey is scum and vote stealer, they can just steal earth's 3 votes to kill earth.

Anyway this match up is way more interesting. We can use the sensor and oracle combo here. If we can put exactly 2 town on the Savant wagon, we basically broke the game cause scum only gets 1 kill. 

Yeah I came on before the deadline, considered switching my vote, but I saw mr triple voter here is still voting wylted, so I didn't want to switch and have things end up being another "mafia decides" situation.

So I'm assuming we can still talk

Just to be clear since there was some confusion yesterday - if Earth was scum, are you informed that your action failed?

Tomorrow's match up will much more interesting

I want to abstain but that's a cop out. Since I buddied lunatic last DP I'll vote wylted.

How tf do we explain Pie's action then? Any chance he was scum godfather, and he saw your role and was like "my role literally only works when I'm dead" so he suicided himself?

if someone has a vote-based role does it still function when they are dead?

Ok mod-psych - would Austin put scum v scum in one of these setups? DP1 OP said the brackets are "seeded", not random.

Also just for the record I was legit busy last night, or else I would have got on and voted owen. 

It's a bad move to still do that given all the claims that happened. You put 2 of the 3 most pro-town roles (the other being sensor) on the same ticket.

I'm thinking Owen and Pie have to be scum together. There's no other justification for the course of action last DP. 

If Pie is town then he knows he's town and will try to let owen die. If he's scum and Owen is town then obviously he'd let owen die. So the only possibility here is they are both scum, and Pie sacrificed himself because Owen has a stronger scum role.

Results please, Owen first preferably, even though he's not on the docket today.

Vader is nominated, Earth and whiteflame are off the chopping block for most people I think, I would prefer myself and Lunatic to stay alive, Wylted seems like he's actually trying now so I don't want to lynch him. That leaves Pie, Owen, casey, and Savant. Pie has the most activity of the 4 so we can PoE down to 3. I'm ok with lynching any of the 3.

lmao

If that's the case then I'm not confirmed for shit and should have just kept my mouth shut so I can live. oh well.

cause popular is almost always town. I've never seen popular scum.

Are you getting coached in the mafia PM? I seem to remember you doing this last game I played where we lynched you DP1

Owen just claim

I buy Lunatic's claim 100%, cause I have a similar mechanic to his.

I'm not opposed to everyone full claiming at this point, I legit think we can break the game with these busted roles. Plus with no open votes and no flips, town is at too much of an information disadvantage from the beginning. 

I an Spreading and my role ability is called "overmatch", but it works similar to popular townie. The justification is that simply talking fast is a legitimate way to get out more arguments. However spreading has become controversial in recent times because of its over-reliance on technical skill. For this reason I am popular by 2 votes in my first match up, poplar by 1 vote in my second match up, and take a normal amount of votes to kill in my third match up. A caveat is I MUST make more posts in the DP than my opponent for this to take affect. Another important point is that this doesn't work this DP, because this phase is a normal mafia voting phase and not a "matchup"

With earth's role, my role, and lunatics role I think we can confirm a lot of roles in the first match up.

for posting code in the thread idk

is the vote revealed to just yourself or everyone?

tf? I thought all match votes are revealled

I don't know what half these words mean, I thought I was similar to weighing cause we both end in "-ing"

So the way I see it the NK is our only guaranteed "flip", because scum will always kill town. Unless we have a coroner or forensic investigator type role.

WyIted being even more off topic than usual

lets buddy

thank fuck my char doesn't stand out anymore

wait nvm dead players can vote

Actually if we block the NK I may have some utility

Thinking about my role too, probably not confirmable. I thought I was coming into this game as big town, guess not lol

Yeah I can see that lmao

I'm trying to think if my role is confirmable... in a typical set it would be, but with these mechanics I have to think about it

I'm Spreading -- that's SPeed reading, not with peanut butter

I haven't read shit yet, but this is an obvious move.

where pm

/in

Also if DP5 Austin pushed earth (without the tracker fake claim BS, lol, what was that), I would have just voted earth right there, the game would have ended.

Everyone's already ragging on moozer, but his real mistake wasn't forgetting to use his role. DP2 was shortened so he had at least 1 legit reason to forget to use his role. His real mistake was saying in the DP he's giving his doc to Lunatic, then actually giving his doc to Lunatic. Moozer is too innocent to play mafia.