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America's Greatness: An Immune System
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@Buddamoose
That's pretty accurate of progressives fmpov. Falsely attributing virtue to idealism, then running straight into hell in pursuit of generally well intentioned ideals. đŸ€”
Why does being progressive mean I attribute virtue to idealistic fantasy?
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“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything"
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@Stephen
 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. Numbers 21:1-9
I noticed this serpent is actually taking the role of some kind of physician and  curing people.
Reminds me of the Rod of Asclepius.
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Mrs. Trump
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@ethang5
I think you just showed us the one with the prostitute mentality.
I agree.
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Mrs. Trump
I've come away with a pretty nice impression of her so far. Her position can't be easy. I'm sure being tied to the Trump administration can be an ordeal. It can't be easy having to give public speeches in her second language, either. 

She often kind of goes mannequin and looks lifeless and expressionless to me, and I find myself wishing she had a bit more of Trump's animation. But I suppose stoicism is how she stays composed and weathers scandal. I admire her commitment to keeping her son out of the spotlight and away from the media circus.

And I haven't heard her say a single thing about the opioid crisis that didn't ring true and get my nod as I listened to her speech.
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@Mopac
Maybe you are expecting a miracle. 
I was just hoping for any kind of response, really. I would prefer to live in a universe where there's a higher power that cares about me. It's a very heartening idea. I'm with theists there.

But reality isn't about what I want, or what I find heartening.

God is The Truth. You know The Truth exists. A relationship with God is a relationship with that.
Then why even use the word God?
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@DebateArt.com
What was it? (curiosity)
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@janesix
how long did you meditate for? just once? for weeks or months?
Maybe once or twice a week, for a period of a few months. Then life swept in and carried me away, and I regret to say I didn't meditate a whole lot after that. I still only meditate infrequently.
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Platform development
It happens brutally often, if I didn't know some tricks I would have missed debate deadlines due to it. It takes many, many refreshes to fix and even then sometimes you need to go incognito and refresh 10 times or reload the entire incognito page free of cookies and cache to make it work.

One thing I found increases the odds of success is clicking the text box immediately after the page loads but NOT TYPING immediately.
I'm totally gonna try this. If it works well I'm really gonna owe you one.
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Platform development
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@DebateArt.com
You're a star, Mike.
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@Goldtop
It happens if I use the options in a thread, especially the "Quote" option, post to the thread and then scroll up to that page to respond to another post, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, more often doesn't. So, it would appear that once a post is made, you have to leave that page and come back to it in order for the options to work again.
Hmm. I haven't seen this, myself. How often does it happen? Often enough that it can be reliably reproduced?
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@janesix
How did you try?
I went to a quiet place, meditated, opened my mind, and listened.
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@Goldtop
Yeah that's the bug we're discussing now. Annoying, isn't it. Sometimes even navigating away from the page and back doesn't fix it for me.

What do you mean about it occurring more often after making more than one reply? I haven't noticed it happening any more often in threads I've already made one post in.
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Platform development
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@DebateArt.com
Sure, no pressure man. I hope you're having a good vacation. Adding those features to profiles is definitely a worthy task, I've been really wanting them.

And no probs, here's a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/cpeaR9e

I wish I had more information to give you. It's such a random glitch and I just haven't been able to reproduce it reliably.
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@janesix
I find it futile to argue with atheists on the existence of God. 

Because unless they experience God for themselves, there is simply no way to convince them that God exists. 
No one who comes on this forum is likely to change their core beliefs. If you measure arguments here by outcome or product, everything we do here is futile. The only one whose mind you're guaranteed to be able to change is your own.

I will say, as an atheist, that I have tried to experience God for myself. I never got an answer that didn't feel like it was just my own imagination talking back to me.
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@DebateArt.com
Sooo... how much longer are we going to have to quote manually? 😬

So the one issue that comes to my mind is that you are starting to use the editor before it's completely loaded, which takes some time, probably around a second, give or take ( editors are built with lots of magic and it takes time to load 'em up ). And the truth is, there are not many ways to go around, maybe blocking the whole editor until it's loaded to prevent confusion but that's also not the nicest of solutions. Anyway, could you please let me know if that's actually the issue or it happens after the editor has been loaded anyway?
Remember when I reported this same glitch a while back: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/1?page=2&post_number=43

I've been monitoring it ever since. Unfortunately whether or not the editor buttons work is totally random for me. But I know I've experienced the problem even on pages that had fully loaded. It seems to persist across multiple different browsers.
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Public Ban List Proposal
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@bsh1
There have been some users who have called for a public ban list to be created to make the usership aware of why banned users were banned and, indeed, whether a user was banned at all. 

I am quite wary of such a list, and feel like it runs counter to the privacy interests of the banned members. I am concerned also that such a list would make it harder for banned members to reintegrate into the site, and that such a list would not be truly different from call out threads, which are otherwise prohibited as personal attacks.

I am curious, however, to hear other voices and perspectives on the question. No user has yet been banned by me or my team, but it is almost inevitable that, at some point, that action will have to be taken. I am interested in hearing the arguments on both sides of the issue, so that I can carefully consider whether to implement such a policy for moderation.

Please feel free to comment, particularly on (a) whether such a list should exist in the first place and (b) how much detail should be included in the list should it be implemented. 
These are valid concerns. I admit I would've liked a list for convenience and transparency, as it gets pretty annoying trying to find out what happened every time without any kind of information resource to refer to, but user privacy is obviously more important than my convenience.

On sites where you could friend people, I always wished there was a feature where you got a message if someone on your friends list was banned.
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How can normal people exterminate human beings without feeling?
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@secularmerlin
I'm not asking you for a definition I'm asking for an opinion. Should pedophiles be afforded human rights or have they forfeited them?
Where do you stand on this matter?
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The Purge: be honest, would you be a purger or an abstainer
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@Outplayz
I would hunt those hunting others. 100% sure that's what i would do. Oh... and i would not only be great at it... i would love it. How i would do it. Full ninja suit with tactical gear, bullet proof vest and the works. I would also have night vision googles that can also see in thermal or regular if i wanted it to. I would have a samurai sword, two handguns and a silenced smg. With as much ammo as i could carry. Probably in the thousands since i would keep them in a car that is also bulletproof. No one will see me coming. Man... just thinking about this is fun.  

Edit 2: oh, and i would probably need some grenades and explosives for the larger groups ^'-'^
Very appealing idea. Hunting the hunters. I'd be pretty tempted to join in.

If you're gonna spend a lot of time on foot, that sounds like a lot of gear weight. At the start of the night it would feel fine but as you exert yourself it'd feel heavier and heavier, and movement speed is crucial in combat situations. Even if you're armed and armored. But training can mitigate the dangers of encumbrance.

Numbers was gonna be my next question. If you're one guy going after a group you'll be at a very steep disadvantage, and most hunting parties move in packs -- stronger that way, more acceptable risk/reward ratio. There's no saying whether you'd have access to explosives or could control their effects precisely enough to be sure you can avoid collateral damage. You could set traps I suppose, but the trick would be to get a hunting party to walk into them.
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@Vortex86
Sounds like he did drain it and get rid of him. And then unlike any administration before him was able to do. Manafort was prosecuted under Trump's DOJ. Sounds like he got flushed successfully, no?
Would this be the same DOJ that Trump has been angrily attacking for months because it would not compromise its political neutrality and abandon its investigations into his people. And would this be the same Manafort whose conviction Trump called a witch hunt and a disgrace.

If Manafort was "drained from the swamp", it was in spite of Trump, not because of Trump.

In any case, when he said he'd drain the swamp he meant he'd get rid of corruption that was already in Washington -- he didn't mean he'd bring in new corruption within his own administration and then get rid of it.
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republicans are mistreating the kavanaugh sexual claims
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@Greyparrot
FBI has no jurisdiction to investigate where they did with Anita Hill as she was a federal employee. 

FBI also has zero leads to investigate. There are no corroborating witnesses and no forensics and also no venue. What do you think the FBI can do? Think.
I think the issue is that the White House could order the FBI to investigate (reinvestigate?) if it wanted to, which is what the Democrats are pushing for.

This does not change the problem of there being no hard leads.
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Some questions for liberals regarding prejudice
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@dylancatlow
There is nothing wrong with Society B observing that Society A has a higher crime rate and acting accordingly -- but only if they recognize that Society A has these problems because of environment rather than skin color or racial characteristics. SocB should look at SocA and think "that would be me if I had been born into those circumstances".
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republicans are mistreating the kavanaugh sexual claims
I don't understand why polygraph tests are still a thing in law enforcement.
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Calling Others "Deluded"....
The last forum Etrnl was on was the religion forum on DDO, where accusations of delusion were taken to discussion-killing extremes, and no one stopped it. The statement "you're deluded" was misused in almost every instance of its occurrence. People who are fresh from a worst case scenario environment often have very different ideas about what kind of rules are necessary.

A lot is being made of the rules, but for me the most important thing is that we have active moderators who will enforce those rules and interpret them reasonably based on context. There were rules on DDO, but no rule enforcement. If someone abuses the freedom to call their opponent deluded as badly as it was abused on DDO, there's not much doubt in my mind that it would not be tolerated here.

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Why Jews reject Jesus
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@EtrnlVw
Let's pretend the Jews have no reason to believe Jesus is/was the Messiah, but do they need to reject the example and teachings of Jesus of the Gospels, why would they not believe or support any spiritual principle Jesus taught?
Good question. I'm an atheist and I think many of Jesus's teachings have value in and of themselves.

I don't think a Jewish person necessarily has to disagree with everything Jesus said. It's simply that they believe those teachings have no authority. In my experience this is often the case when you ask a religious person to embrace values or notions that are not in their holy text. The holy text is the recognized word of God; anything outside it is not the word of God. Which I'm sure has something to do with why so many people reinterpret the text to get the meaning they want from it, rather than create a new text or religion.
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Were you lied to about Santa?
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@ethang5
Cass, have I ever stopped you from doing that?
Gotta be honest, nope. I can't recall you ever stopping me from doing anything, in fact.
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What Exactly Was the Role of the Apostles?
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@Stephen
It's called star power.

Jk, I don't know. In Luke, doesn't Jesus perform some sort of fish miracle which causes the apostles to follow him?

But really, in the New Testament he walks on water, casts out demons, cures lepers, and raises the dead. Getting strangers to drop everything and follow him in trancelike wonder doesn't really stand out to me. Throughout the NT Jesus is depicted as having a mysterious power to affect people.
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DART or DA?
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@TheGreatSeal
I wish there was more consensus on an abbreviation, really. I imagine using different ones could confuse people.

I made a thread a while back where you can read the various abbreviation suggestions and reasons why people liked or disliked them: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/232?page=1
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Talking to God
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@Tradesecret
Do you mean you never have a personal conversation or communication with God without scripture being involved?
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The problem with the "risen" Jesus.
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@Stephen
I found this interesting, if only because it's an interpretation I'd never heard before: https://www.revisedenglishversion.com/John/chapter20/17

You should really read the whole thing because I can't do all the details justice, but here is a sample:

Almost every commentator seriously misunderstands this verse because they assume that “going up to the Father” refers to Jesus’ ascension into heaven. This problem is made worse by the fact that most English versions of the Bible translate the common Greek word anabainƍ, which means “to go up” or “to come up,” as “ascended.” This makes it seem like the verse is referring to Jesus’ ascension into heaven, which it does not.

If Jesus told Mary not to touch him because he had not yet ascended into heaven, then why did he allow or invite others to touch him before he ascended? The same morning he told Mary not to touch him, he allowed the other women to touch him and hold on to his feet (Matt. 28:9). Then later that same day Jesus appeared to his disciples when they were behind locked doors and told them, “Look at my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Handle me, and see” (Luke 24:39). ... Then, eight days later, he told Thomas to touch him (John 20:26, 27).

... If Jesus says the reason not to touch him is that he had not gone to the Father, then once he had “gone up” to the Father, people could touch him. Of course that is exactly what happened. Once Jesus had “gone up” to his Father, which, as we will see, he did when he went “up” to the Temple and then presented himself to the Father there, he allowed people to touch him.
The assertion here is that Jesus meant he was going up to the temple to take care of some Old Testament fulfillment stuff:

The Messiah was the fulfillment of the types and symbols in the Old Testament. For example, he was the true Passover Lamb; the true acceptable sacrifice; the true Sabbath rest for God’s people; and the true High Priest. He was also the true “firstfruits” to God, that is, the first of God’s true harvest (God’s true harvest is the harvest of people who get up from the dead to everlasting life, and Jesus was the first one to be raised from the dead to everlasting life). After his resurrection, Jesus was both the High Priest (Ps. 110:4; Zech. 6:13; Heb. 5:5; 8:1) and the firstfruits (1 Cor. 15:20, 23), and he had to go to the Temple and show himself in both those roles.

... After the sun came up, Jesus Christ, as the acceptable firstfruits, went up from the tomb area to the Temple on Mt. Moriah and showed himself publicly to God and was acceptable in God’s sight to represent the rest of the harvest—all the believers who will be raised from the dead. The High Priest showing the firstfruits in the Temple was something all the Apostles and disciples understood from their Jewish upbringing, and knew was supposed to happen that very day. So if they believed Mary’s testimony that Jesus had been raised from the dead, they would also understand he had to go up to the Temple and show himself to God there. Therefore, when Mary appeared to them and told them Jesus was alive, she bolstered her statement by telling them that he had to “go up to the Father,” that is, appear in the Temple...

As both the High Priest and the Offering, Jesus had to remain Leviticaly clean until after he offered himself, and he would not be Leviticaly clean if Mary touched him (Lev. 22:1-8). Mary was unclean by virtue of the fact that she had been in the tomb that morning and seen that the body of Jesus was gone. However, after Jesus had fulfilled his role as High Priest and firstfruits offering by showing himself in the Temple, he could let people touch him—and he did.
It further suggests that if Jesus had really been referring to his ascension to heaven, Mary would have expressed confusion because none of Christ's followers ever understood the ascension. The commentator argues that they all believed the kingdom of God would be on Earth and never really got that Jesus would be leaving Earth, which is why they were so crushed and hopeless.

I didn't follow all the details, but I can't help finding the whole thing rather dubious, interesting or not. Even if I'd read "go up to my Father" instead of "ascend", I still wouldn't have gotten "go up to the temple" out of that. Not that I'm any scholar on the subject. It's just you'd think it would've been spelled out more clearly if Jesus was doing such an important ritual at the temple.
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Woman More Complex Than Man
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@mustardness
Woman is more complex than man ergo woman is most complex entity of Universe, barring scenarios that involve more than one woman or woman plus man etc.

Ex a galaxy with a human in it, is o of course more complex than a galaxy with no man or woman or Earth-like planet.

This is a minimal brainer yet we find so many who attempt to argue against the obvious. Why? Ego is their problem.
What is your basis for this conclusion?
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Talking to God
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@Deb-8-a-bull
We all struggle with human flaws and walking the right path, no matter our beliefs.
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Death Notification
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@Vaarka
I'll figure it out when I get there
Speculate.
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@ethang5
That wasn't the case with Airmax (who had a similar policy)
The behavior and number of the trolls on the site sharply contradict this.

But you have a right to your opinion. Good luck.
It's clear to me that people who knew airmax more personally had a very different forum experience than those of us who did not know him so personally. Especially in the case of senior DDO members who were there through the older eras of the site. I was a johnny-come-lately who only showed up in the last few years, so I don't have that sense of history and familiarity.

I know I wouldn't think less of any moderator for ignoring unfounded insults.
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@Vaarka
i say we do it like the old days

moderation is almost completely inactive, only on to ban members who receive more than three reports in a 24 hour period with no trial or chance of returning
Dude I didn't know you tell horror stories.
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DART or DA?
It is the icon that must be changed. Not DarC.
Hey I'm not gonna give up my abbreviation either, icon or no icon. Fight the power!
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Talking to God
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@ethang5
Thanks. I started a reply many days ago but it got super long and was put on a back burner. This happens with a lot of my replies that never were. Gets way long, then back burner, then I never get back to it. I'm terrible about it.

Do you mean God sometimes speaks in your mind with your mother's voice?
No. Like I pray to know which job offer is His choice and my mom tells me a story about my first "job" at 4 years old that makes God's answer clear.
When does God want you to do what he says, and when does he want you to make your own decisions?

Do you know immediately when you're doing something that displeases him? 
Yes. Most times, before I do it.
Okay, the obligatory question: why do you still do it? 😋

We've all done things we know are wrong, of course. But not all of us believe in a cosmic disciplinarian. Who wrote a rule book. 🙃
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DART or DA?
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@TheGreatSeal
We're all choosing the one we like and going with it. I guess the closest thing to an official abbreviation is DA because the little site icon says DA. But as far as I know, no authority on the site has expressed a preference. DA was probably only used for the icon because you can't fit much else.

I use DART. I think it sounds cooler than DA.
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@Vaarka
If I die I'll let you know
What will your method of communication be.
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@ethang5
Yeah. 

It was a pretty unfair accusation to throw out.

Just saw GoG. Asked him why he wasn't here. Invited him. And goldtop is here too, basically doing what bully did.

See us just chatting? No socio-political Armageddon? Thought I couldn't eh?
😄 Yes, I see. Kudos.

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@ethang5
I see you've found DART. 
But he isn't following anyone. Noooo.
Well I've been posting on DDO just to flash the DART link in my sig and attract new members, so he could've found us that way. I think I shared the link on Sciforums as well. Can't remember for sure. We need more members, I would've had the url spelled out in skywriting if I had the dough to spare.

Concerning your last post to me on page 1 -- do you mind if I break my reply into two or three posts? Trying to talk about all of it at once would make posts very long.
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@ethang5
...after all I suspect the admin of being involved with actual gangs of online hackers and being part of the spambots of DDO and the admin would read all the PMs.
If you have no proof of this you need to keep it to yourself. It is libel.

If what you suspect is true, it would be illegal. But libel is also illegal. You get really upset when people "suspect" you of being mentally unstable, don't unfairly do the same thing you dislike to others.
I thought I recalled the original CoC having a clause concerning accusations, the importance of presenting evidence, etc. Can't seem to find it now. Or anything directly addressing accusations or libel. May have been changed in the update. I suppose it's all considered personal attacks now.
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@bsh1
Those last two paragraphs were pretty rockin'.
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It's very obvious why it was locked but the issue is that the mods claimed to be Libertarian instead of the correct form of moderation which is ruthless but fair to all. The issue at hand is that it was correct to delete the thread entirely and naive people are going to get exposed hardcore not even to people on this site but everywhere, after all I suspect the admin of being involved with actual gangs of online hackers and being part of the spambots of DDO and the admin would read all the PMs.

Don't be confused when I say that the thread being taken down was correct, I understand it contradicts the promised laissez-faire moderating style of bsh1 but I also understand that laissez-faire is corrupt and disgusting both in real life politics as well as online moderating.
Well my assumption was the same as ethan's, but I was looking for some confirmation.

I do want a fair mod, but I can't say I want a ruthless one. Unless you mean unbiased in their execution of justice, in which case, absolutely. Why would it have been correct to delete the thread? Do you think the moderators are responsible for protecting people from their own risky choices?

I am not going to discuss allegations that Mike was responsible for the DDO spampocalypse.

Meh, I tend to associate laissez-faire policy with outright apathy. Past experiences have made me not too keen on it. Maybe a positive example of laissez-faire moderation will change my mind.
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@Goldtop
I'm not gonna make assumptions about what other people inwardly "know". How can I be truly certain of what's going on in someone else's head?
Often, it's their own words that reveal what's going on in their heads.

I see you've found DART. Where's the guitar pic?
I'm in the midst of selling that guitar and might put up a pic of my next one.
What? No. Is it even gonna be another Goldtop? If it's not another Goldtop your username is A LIE. A LIE, Goldtop.

Anyway Goldtop (LIES), no theist's words in this thread have indicated to me that "theists know only too well they're talking to themselves", as you put it.
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Maybe we should rename this thread "moderation already fixed that problem".

So no one has any confirmed idea why the Death Notification thread was originally locked?
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@Goldtop
Theists know only too well they're talking to themselves. Some require that third party invisible friend who never judges them and always provides the answer they seek as opposed to the truth they avoid.
I'm not gonna make assumptions about what other people inwardly "know". How can I be truly certain of what's going on in someone else's head?

I see you've found DART. Where's the guitar pic?
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@janesix
Why do you think God chose to speak to you?

>>I think it is my time to wake up 

What did his presence feel like? Warm? Scary? Familiar? Alien? Loving, distant, etc?

>>overwhelming.powerful.but not scary 
What do you think you're waking up from, and what are you waking up to?

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@Mopac
As an old spy recently said, we're looking for truth in a post-truth world.
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Calling Others "Deluded"....
I do understand where Etrnl is coming from when he says it can be a debate killer. With it you can completely dismiss the words and arguments of your opponent in favor of a mocking "you're crazy", and an implied "you're a fool". And of course, it's charged language that's likely to give offense. I often see it come at the end of an exchange in which frustrations have built to a point where all debate is dead and all that's left is insults.

I would say the emotional content of an accusation of delusion is important, and can vary. It can be a calm if critical observation or an aggressive and contemptuous attack. If backed up by clear arguments and a cerebral rather than hostile tone, I'd consider it acceptable. Though I do question how often it's used like that vs how often it's used nastily. My instinct would be to say that it's used nastily more often. But there are cases where saying someone is deluded can arguably be called an observation of the truth, as in the case of oh, I don't know, flat Earthers. I could see myself calling a moon landing hoaxer deluded during an argument.

It strikes me as very contextual and interpretive, moderation-wise. I'll have to slightly disagree with bsh1 on the deluded = mistaken thing. Deluded is a more loaded and flammable word imo.
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@Mopac
I don't avoid calling people idiots because it is against the rules. I avoid calling people idiots because it is not a very charitable thing to do.
Debate isn't really about charity. As we all know only too well. But it sounds like you're using the word charity to describe what I would probably call decency or manners instead. Still relatively rare online.

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