David

I want to thank everyone for your feedback. Bsh is going to be posting a MEEPs very soon and so this thread is now locked. Please please please participate in this MEEPs. It is one of the most important MEEPs yet. 

Thank you

I support a lookout window between the voting and final period. This is something @Mike will have to program. Making the mods confirm all the votes will probably add unnecessary burden to our work. 

Also I think it would be nice to have a comment box when you are reporting a vote explaining why you are reporting it. A lot of good votes go reported for no apparent reason. 

Here's

Twins joined at the head — the medical term is craniopagus — are one in 2.5 million, of which only a fraction survive. The way the girls’ brains formed beneath the surface of their fused skulls, however, makes them beyond rare: their neural anatomy is unique, at least in the annals of recorded scientific literature. Their brain images reveal what looks like an attenuated line stretching between the two organs, a piece of anatomy their neurosurgeon, Douglas Cochrane of British Columbia Children’s Hospital, has called a thalamic bridge, because he believes it links the thalamus of one girl to the thalamus of her sister. The thalamus is a kind of switchboard, a two-lobed organ that filters most sensory input and has long been thought to be essential in the neural loops that create consciousness. Because the thalamus functions as a relay station, the girls’ doctors believe it is entirely possible that the sensory input that one girl receives could somehow cross that bridge into the brain of the other. One girl drinks, another girl feels it.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/magazine/could-conjoined-twins-share-a-mind.html
So here's the obvious philosophical problem and question: If they share a mind, are they one person with two bodies or are they two people with one brain? It appears the latter is the case. This, in my opinion, is pretty strong evidence of Mind-Body Dualism. While they share a material brain and can feel each other's thoughts, they are two different people with different people and think abstractly.

i could support that 

The work isn't the issue. The biggest hurdle is working with the ELO system and the way Mike has it coded

Mike is working on that. Unfortunately, it'll be a bit difficult. Even after that update, it will only apply to debates after that update. Mike probably won't be able to let us delete debates post voting period like the ones magic ruined

It's not a barrier IMO if we make it clear that they have to read the rules and COC in order to vote. It takes 3 seconds and they can't claim they didn't read or know about the TOS. 

Here's a new thing that I'm going to start doing. There have been numerous cases in the past week of new members casting vote bombs. In response to this, I will delete the vote and revoke their permission to vote. After that I will contact the user and inform them about the COC and the standards that we have. 

Here's a proposal: We have a badge that you receive by reading the COC. I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to make someone read the COC before voting. If Mike can make a badge when you read it, I'm sure he can make it so that you can't vote unless you read it.

What do you all think? 

I think you got to keep things in balance. Someone like you who proves to the moderator team that they're a worthy member should certainly be allowed to vote. On the other hand, allowing new members to instantly vote have proven to create integrity issues. 

This is why this discussion is needed.

No for the love of all that is good and holy. No. 

This. Even though the mods can't see it, the hosts certainly can and does.

This would be interesting. I proposed before creating a voting bloc like we had on DDO. We'd assign someone to be the voting czar and assign people to vote 

Yeah -- there's a reason why I did not vote on that debate. I felt it would be highly inappropriate for me to vote on it. 

Or any teacher for that matter. If he can't cope with this, how the hell does he cope with hundreds of idiot teenagers all day long? 

you and I both

I understand your concerns about that. IP addresses don't tell reveal anything revealing and personal. 

Update 

Mike and I have had a very long conversation and did a long investigation. Our results show that Magic attempted to cheat by using the DebateVoter account. We also proved that he attempted to cheat by voting for himself at the last minute in his debates with death23. Needless to say they are all permanently banned. 

Many thanks to Ramshutu, RM, and death23 for some awesome scum hunting! 

The mod team apologizes to those who had their debates messed up by these cheaters. Mike will hopefully be adding the ability to remove votes after the voting period to add to the voting integrity. 

Thank you. 

Virtuoso 

Deputy Moderator 

Yeah - this is just a discussion of what it should look like. We should take what we gleen from this and put it up for a MEEPs

2 factor confirmation is more of a extra security for logging in. I think it's super helpful for the admins to require 2FA, but I dont think it'll solve the problem. 

cell phones are a bit tricky because they're expensive and easy to get around 

It's possible, which is why we might be able to do a combination of what I propose 

Greetings!

/in for the debating tourney and in for the scavenger hunt! 

moral nihilism is self contradictory and thus self refuting 

I really like that idea. Someone else brought to my attention that it would possibly be a good idea to reiterate the voting rules when you cast a ballot. 

Update: Feeling a bit better. Thanks guys

Hi all,

I am really sick right now and will probably have to go to the hospital. I will have limited access over the next few days. Any questions and reports should be directed to bsh1. Hopefully, I will be back to normal in about a week. 

I also apologize to Ramshutu and Magic for forfeiting my debates with them. Hope they forgive me and will allow us to revisit those topics when I am well.

Love y'all

-Virt

OK so I just finished reading through all of these and I must say, thett3, you are a genius. These are truly entertaining. :clap:

Fine by me

I agree with pretty much everything, with the exception of the "Moderation is not LF." It's certainly far more LF than if I were completely in charge, so...

This. Try using some major SEO keywords like online debate, political forum, religious forum, etc. That's the type of stuff that would draw people in. 

lol! I actually mentioned that in private to bsh. I’m pleased with the participation and the lack of toxic mudfest 

these announcements are important to ensure that everyone knows the important updates and to ensure everyone can participate in the MEEPS stuff. That being said Mike could make a feature to turn off announcement notifications. 

That is true, but doesn't give access to the full records that we have

No. We maintain a private ban log via google docs, but we do not share that specific doc with anyone.
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This is kinda why I hoped the ban log would pass. An anonymized ban log would kinda defeat the purpose because they'd easily be able to figure out who it was.

I am quite pleased with the level of participation in this thread. Congratulations, bsh, on your 1000th post. It's quite an achievement. 

You'd most likely be a part of it. You are certainly a strong debater on non-troll/non-rap topics. 

I like that. This is what edeb8 has. It's a (secret topic) and you can decide to do pro or con. It's computer generated. 

This is part of our plan. We would create a professional voter team to vote on debates to ensure at least 3 quality RFDs per debate. We may have it set so that you can select open, judiciary, or professional votes. 

Pretty much.

This will kinda separate the professional debates from the rap battles. That way the good debates don't get burried in with a bunch of troll debates 

Here you go

Since quite a few people did not respond, I'm making a round two and putting people in who actually bothered to show up. Here are the brackets.

Group 1

RationalMadman vs Blamonkey

Group 2

Warren42 vs nmvarco 

yep. They bought it for about 100K I believe. If they sell the domain in sure it’s worth a lot more now 

Juggle is the company that bought DDO back in its heyday. 

If Juggle wasn't so incompetent DDO would be alive and well. The polls and opinions section were the beginning of the end. 

I recently did a debate with blamonkey on the death penalty. I am totally against the death penalty but I think I argued my case pretty well. 

When I debate, there's almost at least one argument that I don't necessarily believe in real life. 

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