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@Mharman
So we can’t even see the nature of the alt account’s offenses? I think it’s it is a valid idea for the public to know exactly what banned users were doing with their alts.
The alt accounts are forbidden by the COC.
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@RationalMadman
Honestly his 'daily updates' are not even informative.
As much as Trump lies, I think these "updates" are doing significantly more harm than good.
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@RationalMadman
I do agree with you. China should be severely punished for the coverup. I also agree that Trump's response is atrocious.
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@RationalMadman
Upvoted. Who will replace DM or has there been sufficient ability for the other mods to handle forum moderation for now?
For now, we are not looking to replace DM.
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@TheRealNihilist
I updated it to make it a bit clearer. Thanks.
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@TheRealNihilist
All your threads won't be deleted, it's only threads created by alternative accounts. I apologize for not making that clear.
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Greetings, everyone!
First I have some bad news to share. Drafterman has opted to step down in his role as a forum moderator due to some real-life issues. I cannot thank him enough for his service. Rest assured that he is welcomed to come back to the moderation team when he feels ready to do so.
Second, I want to inform you of a new moderation policy. For now on, any threads created by a banned user's alternate account will be deleted entirely
Thank you,
-Virtuoso, Chief Moderator
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@RationalMadman
Test
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@Lunatic
That would be cool actually. I was going to ask you guys if we could do that if I ever did this as a real thing. I didnt ask because I wanted to test it and see how it would work out first
Fair point. Though obviously the account will be used only for debating. All other permission will be revoked.
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@Lunatic
If you guys are interested, I'd be willing to open a few anonymous accounts that I can lend out to you for the duration of your debate and you can do it text-wise
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@warren42
I'll /in.Virt can I have you (or anyone else if you're ok with that) remind me via Discord when this starts?
Sure thing
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@Lucky
They'll probably be mostly tried and true open setups from MU or MS.
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@Bullish
@Speedrace
The setup depends on the number of players
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Greetings, everyone!
Welcome to another installment of Virt's Mafia. This game, like the last one, will be an open setup and themeless. I am aiming to get 9-13 players.
RULES
THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF THEM ALL
NEVER discuss this game with other players outside of this Game Thread (regardless of whether you are alive or dead), unless your Role PM gives you explicit permission to do so (i.e. if you are part of a non-village team or a masonry).
This means that you are NOT allowed to send someone even seemingly innocuous messages such as "Wow, this <insert player name> is pretty wacky, huh?", or "this mafia game is pretty fun", or "I'm so busy right now, which is why I'm barely even posting in the game".
If another player references the game to you outside of the Game Thread, please PM me immediately.
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE EDIT YOUR POST! I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A SERIOUS BREACH OF GAME INTEGRITY AND WILL RESULT IN AN IMMEDIATE MOD KILL!
Activity
You are required to make 10 posts per DP. At least 5 of those posts must be substantive. A substantive post is any post that advances the progress of the game. The determination of what is or is not a substantive post is mine, and mine alone, to make.
Failure to meet this activity standard makes you eligible for replacement. If you know in advance that you won't be active, tell me ahead of time, otherwise, I will have a lot less sympathy for you. For those who were insufficiently active but who had legitimate reasons for the low activity, I will expect you to make up for your inactivity in the next DP. You may receive 1 activity prompt in the last 24 to 12 hours of a DP; this is not guaranteed. A failure to get this prompt out to you will not excuse any inactivity.
Game Mechanics
- The day phase shall last for 72 hours and night phases shall last for 24 hours, or until everyone checks in.
- Dead players may continue to talk to their teammates after death
- Plurality lynching is turned on. If no one gets a majority of votes by the end of the day, then the person with the most votes will be lynched. In the event of a tie, I will randomly select a player to be lynched using random.org
- Day phases end will end immediately upon a lynch. If I am not present when the final vote is cast, I will ask that you refrain from chatting in the thread.
- To vote, bold VTL: Username. I strongly recommend that you tag me when you vote. It is not required to Unvote if you change your vote
Civility
- Observe all site-wide rules and the code of conduct.
- Don't be a dick towards each other.
- Once again, only discuss the game in this thread. Do not PM other players, unless your Role PM allows this. Additionally, do not post anything about the game in other threads on this forum, or on other forums.
- Do not share your Role PM. Sharing a screenshot of your Role PM is cheating, as would discussing the time stamp of your Role PM.
- Hydra'ing or multi-accounting is not allowed. Do not share your account with anyone else.
- Breadcrumbing your role is allowed. Secret codes requiring keys or anything resembling such is NOT allowed.
SIGNUPS
1. Lunatic
2. SupaDudz
3. Lucky
4. WaterPhoenix
5. orogami
6. Warren42
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This is actually a pretty good idea. Especially if it’s all film forfeit
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@Discipulus_Didicit
As drafter points out the question of whether this is technically spam under the CoC is "no". The question then becomes whether we ought to update the definition of spam given in the CoC. What is your response to that question?
I think it is quite reasonable to update the COC to make it clear that you can't spam threads and constantly flood with no effort posts. However, the problem is that we will need to MEEP it.
I'd love to get rid of the MEEP all together, but I doubt people would want to abolish it.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Thanks for bringing this up. Spamming is currently forbidden, but as drafterman and speedrace noted, this isn't considered spamming. Setting a limit on flooding is probably something we should consider.
That being said, I apologize for not being so active. I've been busy with classes and haven't been feeling like myself lately.
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@Christen
There is no way to indefinitely ban someone in our system. When we ban someone, it asks us how many days and how many hours to ban. For perma bans, I usually just type in 30,000 days.
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@WaterPhoenix
It's possible, but I would view it as highly bastard.
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Yeah, sorry I've been incredibly busy. I haven't been feeling well recently. I honestly forgot I signed up for this game.
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@Vader
I'm open to the idea of a presidency. I'll give you guys free reign on how to go about selecting the President. What would the President actually do?
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@warren42
Taking a break from mafia. I'm way too busy.
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Good game guys. Sorry I wasn’t around that much. Great catch drafterman. Definitely MVP
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@drafterman
<br>Why did you fake claim cop?
I didn't and wasn't claiming. I was leaving cop cover. It's a strategy we use on MafiaUniverse all the time and so that's how I got used to playing.
This is a good article explaining the tactic:
A seer has to "drop peeks." This means that they have to find a way to post their results in the thread for the Town to see. The Town needs to provide "seer cover" [also known as "hypo cop'ing"]. This means that the rest of the Town should be providing fake peeks in order to confuse the scum team and hide the real seer results until it is safe for the real seer to claim or the real seer is killed. The scum has to "seer hunt." In basic games, the scum team does not have a lot of time to find the seer. In a typical standard game if the scum team doesn't find the seer by day 3 and the seer has 3 live peeks or 2 live peeks and a scum peek the game is mechanically locked and the Town always wins.
That's basically the goal.
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@oromagi
Sure thing.
You are 1harderthanyouthink’s role from TUF’s Bartimaeus mafia. Your role: “1harderthanyouthink-You are Jakob Hyrnek, a commoner, and once Kitty’s closest friend. When you were hit by a Black Tumbler, you lost many physical abilities and suffered permanent damage to your face. Your condition renders you almost useless, making you a vanilla townie. Use your voice and your vote to make a difference, even if that difference is messing with Julius Tallow’s spell book, which causes him to turn himself a horrible yellow color. You win with the town.”
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@Zaradi
Full claim is vanilla town. It was clear that I was posting a cop cover.
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@drafterman
I didn’t realize he claimed miller. Didn’t read the entire game yet.
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@ILikePie5
Yeah, but town lynched so quickly and school has me beat.
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The Kalaam Cosmological Argument for ____ to be scum
1. If the town began to exist, then the town has a cause
2. The town began to exist
3. Therefore, the town has a cause
4. Consequently, the cause of the town must be a scum who is _______)
The Moral Argument for ____ to be scum
1. If objective moral facts exist, then ____ is scum
2. Objective moral facts exist
3. Therefore, ____ is scum
The Prime Mover Argument
1, Whatever is in motion is moved by another
2. There exists mafia in motion
3, There cannot be an infinite regression of moved beings
4. Therefore, there must be a first mover, a prime mafia member who is obviously ________
The Teleological Argument
1. Natural entities either tend toward ends or they do not.
2. If natural entities tend toward ends, then they are best explained by a person.
3. Natural entities tend toward ends.
4. Therefore, natural entities are best explained by a person.
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@drafterman
The strategy here is a cop cover. If the cop dies, town can go back through the post and read his results.
that said, I have an innocent report on Ragnar.
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Sorry I forgot about this game. Been busy at school. Finally got some time to play.
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@ethang5
There has been some moderate improvement, especially since Disgusted is gone. Though the vast majority of reports come from this forum
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This is a message to all religious forum users.
Since the beginning of the new year, the overwhelming majority of forum post reports has involved users and posts in this forum. Over two dozen of such reports with only 2 or 3 not being from this forum.
Many of these are not strict violations, but come close to toeing this line. Some users have had to be warned and some posts deleted.
Despite these actions, user interactions has grown increasingly vitriolic and more and more posts are coming close to and crossing that line. Rather than continue to issue individual warnings and habding out temporary bans, I am sending out a blanket warning to all religious forum users:
Reign in the insults and personal attacks. There is a negative feedback loop that is making each conversation consistently worse and worse.
The Moderation team is going to establish the following course of action:
1. Mark all current reports as handled; the above warning serves as a warning for all users regarding all reported posts.
2. Continue to monitor the situation.
3. If individual threads receive a high number of reports, and those reports involve posts that cross the line, or are coming close to crossing the line, the moderators will post a warning in that thread and lock it for 24 hours.
4. If the behavior repeats after the thread is reopened, the thread will be locked permanently.
5. If a thread is locked permanently as a result of the above, any users with any post that violates the CoC will be temporarily banned.
6. Continued violations after a temporary ban will result in further bans of increasing duration until the ban is indefinite
The moderation team knows that any discussion about religion will inevitably get heated, but please make sure you are following the CoC.
Thanks,
Virtuoso
-Chief Moderator
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Hey guys. Just getting out of class and will be catching up shortly.
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@drafterman
<br>It is arguable as to whether or not COPPA applies to DART.However, DART's staff of knowledgeable legal counsel is probably wanting, so rather than hire someone to dig through arcane US legal code to see if it really applies, risk getting that determination wrong, and implement necessary restrictions if it does apply, a blanket minimum age limit is the most practical course of action in this situation.
Pretty much this. Plus I feel there needs to be at least some level of maturity on the site. 13 I think is a good age limit.
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