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@Wylted
I have never disrespected you in this way disc. You are one of my favorite users and this hurts that you think I would do this.I Don't agree with your politics, but I wish I knew how they evolved because it seems to me like you used to be a pretty intelligent conservative with nuanced views and something changed that.I certainly Don't think we have many users at the moment who are here to propagandize, and I certainly would never accuse you of it.
If this dude is not you then I apologize for the comparison. I don't really think of myself as a liberal or leftist and the list of people who would think of me as such is short so he is certainly someone's alt, I have no proof that it is you over, say, lebronski.
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Biden got 306 votes and Trump got 232.
9 out of 10 mathematicians agree that 306 is more than 232.
Do we really want mathematicians running this country though?
#stopthesteal #notmypresident #notmymath
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@zedvictor4
Hate......A powerful emotion.
"Disagreeing with a person is hate speech"
-Person that feels hatred for everyone they disagree with
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@Lemming
"I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered."
-Robert E. Lee
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The south lost. Should we be celebrating losers by making statues of them?
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@949havoc
What If, after all that thinking, I choose something else?
Faux, there is no concrete proof of determinism that I am aware of so you are free to think that it is incorrect. You could at least understand what it is actually saying though rather than straw manning it as the concept really is quite simple.
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@secularmerlin
I'm sensing an F... maybe a name?... Fred? Fiona? No? It doesn't have to be a name... maybe something happened in February? They died in February? or uh... their birthday? No? Your birthday? Maybe F for Friday? No?!?! Damn, I usually get it by now. Uhhh... were they a father? Anyone's father? Did they have a father?
You know what, nevermind... How about an M? Sensing an M now...
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@cristo71
you really shouldn’t alter a person’s statement and then attribute the altered statement back to the person via the quote feature.
You did say Trump supporters are being persecuted, that wasn't a misrepresentation. If you don't like it then oh well, facts don't care about your feelings snowflake.
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@cristo71
We refer to getting burned at the stake for one’s beliefs as persecution in the context of a thousand years ago. In the present day, it can comprise of having people disagree with you over who should be president, like I said in post 1.
Those two things don't really seem the same though. One seems actually bad while the other seems like just being a whiny little snot.
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Does he not know that Trump supporters are persecuted every day in our society?
Wow, the word persecuted really has lost a lot of meaning over the last few thousand years hasn't it?
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@Double_R
most of it is out of the sheer audacity of Trumpers attacking Biden or others in areas where Trump was objectively multiple times worse, like on divisiveness for example.
Wait, is that actually a thing people attack Biden on? There are so many actual things one could say about him that I find it odd someone would feel the need to make up something silly like that.
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It is apparently the case that determinism is closely associated by a lot of people with the ability to make predictions about human choices. I am curious what people that actually think determinism is probably correct think about this.
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@secularmerlin
I took it a few months ago, don't remember too many specifics but agree that the questions probably aren't perfect. Way better than Political Compass though, at least in my opinion.
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@secularmerlin
I am not so much in favor of that as simply not allowing anyone to attain more wealth than they can actually reasonably use in one lifetime in the first place.
Would you be in favor of using taxes to achieve that? (Yes I acknowledge that other methods exist, my question stands). If you answer yes to that then answering with a strong yes to the question you bring up on the quiz may be warranted.
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38% approval seems pretty high tbh.
38% is pretty much the baseline minimum achievable by just about anyone no matter how much they stumble over their words every time they open their mouth.
Just realized Greyparrot blocked me from his safe space so I can't tag him in this. Will someone tag him for me?
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@BigPimpDaddy
I think the time is near considering everything going on.
Out of all the troubles the world has seen, it just happens to be the ones in your lifetime that herald the end of the world?
What makes you such a special snowflake?
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@Bones
I'm getting lebronksi vibes, truth be told.
6 likes in 18 hours. Impressive.
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@janesix
Dont know why people assume the creator is all of those extremes.
Because some religious people arguing with eachother about who is right.
A: My god created the forest
B: Well my god is greater, they created all the forests.
A: Oh yeah?!?! Well mine created the whole planet!!!
B: BUT MINE IS INFINITE AND MADE THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND EXISTS OUTSIDE OF TIME AND SPACE AND IS ETERNALLY EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE AND IS BETTER THAN ALL ANYTHING PERIOD!!!!!
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@BigPimpDaddy
For SERIOUS debate.YOU probably want to use to suck people into the FAR-LEFT PIPELINE AND SPOUT YOUR LIBERAL PROPOGANDA BULLSHIT.
Oh NVM, welcome back wylted.
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@BigPimpDaddy
this will make others not want to use this site because it isnt serious.
Why do you want to use the site?
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Has he lived up to his promise to be Joe Biden?So far, no.
Who is he being then?
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@Vader
Oh brotherD got a time-out too? nice.
I wouldn't say the timing is bad, I was asking out of curiosity rather than to imply disagreement. I wholeheartedly agree with the broD and mesmer bans, don't have enough info to have any opinion on ethang and have mixed feelings about wylted. My overall sentiment is general approval and optimism that this may be a sign the recent MEEP regarding standardization of ban practices may be yielding genuine results.
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Just realized that Wylted was not the only case of this, chris cleaned house with mesmer on his way out as well.
Are there any other cases of this that have gone unnoticed? Is it coincidence that these bans happened right before an administration change?
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Has he lived up to his promise to be Joe Biden?
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@oromagi
All that said, even if some active FBI agents are discovered to have been a part of the storming of the Capitol, I don't see that as evidence that the FBI was actively colluding with the Trump Administration to overturn the election results and install Trump as an unconstitutional leader. Whatever the degree of Trump support within the FBI rank and file, I am convinced that FBI leadership mostly considers Trump an agent of Putin and other organized crime organizations.
Given the tendency of Trump supporters to downplay/whitewash the events of Jan. 6 and in more extreme cases claim even to this day that said events were a good thing, I doubt that the above is the conclusion that the people making the claims of FBI involvement are driving at. More likely something along the lines of "The people there didn't want to do such things but the FBI covertly made them do it to make Trump look bad or give them an excuse to arrest Trump supporters", or some such silliness like that.
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lol last action as mod is to write an essay banning someone for 2 weeks. Hilarious.
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@Wylted
I am not a coward so I am able to say my opinion directly, in this case that I think the claim addressed in the OP is incorrect.
Speaking of which... do you think the claim addressed in the OP is correct or incorrect?
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@Wylted
We have agents deeply undercover in many extremist organizations. The are all gathered in one place and a perceived threat by idiots who make threat assessments. How can we take out 800 at once? Maybe by planting a little bug in their head that storming the capital is a good ideal. Maybe the agents didn't realize that the storming would be successful. We can't really know what happens.So we have the possible reverse sting angle.
Right, I understand the hypothesis being laid out. It really is an incredibly simple concept. If you are willing to commit to claiming that you think this is what happened then we can talk about it, I ask again whether Friday or Saturday is good for you.
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The fauxlaw-havoc connection is so blatantly obvious that until I stumbled across this thread I had no idea that it was even a matter of debate. I assumed it was public knowledge.
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It would have had a green 'reports handled' checkmark next to it if it was reported wouldn't it? No check mark so I assume it was locked on the mods own initiative without it being reported.
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@Wylted
Are you now conceding that undercovers were in the crowd?
Not conceding or denying that point because I haven't looked into it and prefer to base my claims on evidence over presupposition, though if I had to guess I would say it is not too unlikely. Several of the groups involved in the riot were extremist groups that the government would have an obvious interest in trying to have informants in well before the January 6 attacks, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys being two such groups that come to mind right away.
That's not really the claim addressed by the OP though, is it?
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@Wylted
The claim addressed by the OP of this thread is the claim that government agents organized or colluded with others to organize the January 6 attacks. I am not aware of any evidence that this claim is correct. If you think it is then we can discuss it live on Discord as you suggest but not tonight, I will be at work. How does Friday or Saturday work for you?
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@Wylted
would you like to debate whether undercover officers were in the crowd? A live debate?
I would. Discord?
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@949havoc
Is freedom's right to the privacy of our body limited just to women and for specifically the right to an abortion
Do you agree that this right should exist?
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@FLRW
I have faith in Amun.Amun, god of the air, was one of the eight primordial Egyptian deities. Amun's role evolved over the centuries; during the Middle Kingdom he became the King of the deities and in the New Kingdom he became a nationally worshipped god. He eventually merged with Ra, the ancient sun god, to become Amun-Ra.
I was sceptical but this has convinced me. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and evidence of things not seen and I have definitely not seen Amun or Amun-Ra so if those fellows were not real then how could you have faith in them? That's enough evidence right there... I hope.
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@RationalMadman
This didn't surprise me though, in threads regarding my fallacious ban, you were quite the cheerleader for the mods and mocker of me.
Citation? I mean, you are a dick but I don't recall supporting your ban.
If you just wanted me to run because I voted 'no' to the presidency and your real agenda was to have someone in the role who doesn't use it, why not just run yourself on that honest platform?
Seems doubtful that I would win but I could give it a shot I guess.
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@RationalMadman
Treachery will be noted, you endorsed me to oppose Wylted. I not only succeeded at that, I won over his support (for now at least) and then you turn your back on me.
Well, I probably would prefer you over Wylted. That is still true. Are you being allowed to run despite your ban history? I don't keep up with DART current events as closely as I do real life current events so if that is the case then great.
More importantly though I think you should be informed that this this thread is satire on Wylted's part. That clearly went over your head so I'm going to help you out by pointing that out.
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@949havoc
No guarantee that such a candidate will present itself, just a thought for if it does.
If someone that voted no on the proposal were to run that would be an interesting possibility.
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@949havoc
Actually, I will not vote as I disagree with the position's need.
I agree with this sentiment but instead of boycotting the vote I will be considering the possibility of voting for someone that does not plan on using the role to any great extent (assuming such a candidate appears).
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Have you tried a nice hot cup of green tea and some soothing music?
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@SkepticalOne
@Sum1hugme
'DeVinnie' sent each of you a 5-day-per-turn challenge on chess.com, that's me.
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@RationalMadman
(as in the game seems to be a story more than a game and that isn't my typical go-to genre in gaming).
That is fairly true of the tabletop, though the computer game which the tabletop inspired is by contrast relatively open-ended for it's time, including multiple endings and such. Granted its time was nearly 2 decades ago so comparing it with newer games is rather unfair and the computer game is a bit of a cult classic at this point so it would be hard for me to justify recommending it to anyone as a new experience. Still, enjoyable enough for me by myself.
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@RationalMadman
Ye. You play before or "Search Google for this image"?
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@drlebronski
You have access to sufficient resources to figure out the answer within about 60 seconds.
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