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@SkepticalOne
and possibly radio-active decay occurring at a faster rate in the past. (He attempted the last one in our discussion).
Well yeah, anything is possible if you just immediately discard the concept of the laws of physics being a constant... smh.
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So the theory is "whatever most people say is true magically becomes true"
So is the theory wrong because most people in this thread say it is wrong or has the theory always been wrong?
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@SkepticalOne
As long as he has a firm understanding of why you steered him to other methods you should be.
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@SkepticalOne
When talking about radiometric dating make sure to be specific with him as to the type. I assume if he is "taken with" radiometrics he will start to talk about carbon dating specifically as that is the direction his 'research' (glancing through the FAQ at Answers in Genesis or something) will take him because YECs in general have a habit of taking carbon dating as gospel and denouncing all other forms of dating as unreliable. The reason they tend to do this is carbon-14 is a relatively fast decaying particle in the radiometrics world and so is unreliable for any object older than I think 25,000 years or so and gives weird results for anything older, like 50,000 year old Triceratops bones or something. Obviously Triceratops bones are much older than that so if a result like that comes from radiometric dating it was probably done with carbon dating, which is rather like trying to measure the circumference of a city with a meter-stick except much much worse.
General argument frameworks to expect:
"Radiometric dating says that these Triceratops bones are 50,000 years old but scientists say all dinosaurs are millions of years old, radiometrics can't be trusted!"
"Radiometric dating says that these Triceratops bones are 50,000 years old but scientists say all dinosaurs are millions of years old, this proves dinosaurs were around very recently!"
"Radiometric dating says that these Triceratops bones are 50,000 years old but scientists have criticised the study that produced this result, proving that scientists are dogmatic and not open to new ideas!"
"Radiometric dating says that these Triceratops bones are 50,000 years old but scientists have criticised the study that produced this result, proving that even scientists don't have any confidence in radiometrics!"
That covers about 80% of everything YECs will ever say regarding radiometrics, they tend to not be too imaginative.
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@oromagi
Some of that is stuff I never heard before/thought of. Thanks for the post.
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@Speedrace
No but my mom got us a dog
Basically the same thing.
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@zedvictor4
I have now come to regard cats as having a negative impact upon small mammal and songbird numbers
Had a few as a kid so I know what you mean, regular little serial killers they are. We also had a pond around back and I can assure you small amphibians had just as much to worry about as the mammals and birds =/
A word of advice gained through experience......Never use "spot on" flea or worm treatments on dogs or cats.
Can I ask why? Just doesn't work?
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@zedvictor4
All good advice not just for pets but life in general. What kind of dog? if you don't mind me asking... My parents have two dogs (a bullmastiff and a bullmastiff/someotherbreed) and a turtle (very different from a tortoise but similar) and your post reminded me of them.
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So according to speeds link just about everything is toxic to fish. Good to know...
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@Vader
really there isn’t much needed to take care of them
#1 reason I wanted fish or a cat instead of a dog or something lol.
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@warren42
"I can't offer specific advice"Classic warren.
Goes on to immediately offer highly useful advice
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@WaterPhoenix
You have the word water in your name...
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@Bullish
@ILikePie5
@warren42
@zedvictor4
@BearMan
Tagging random people
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@Lunatic
@Barney
@Vader
@oromagi
@Speedrace
Help
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I have been debating between getting a huge aquarium or a cat for quite some time and after months of consideration have decided to go with the many times more expensive and less useful option where everything going horribly wring is much more likely, the aquarium.
The problem (well, the main problem anyway) is that II have no experience whatsoever in the purchase or care of fish outside of what I remember from a few guppies my family had in a small fishbowl as a child. Any advice or links to useful websites for such a project would be appreciated. If this topic garners interest from a number of users I'll even upload a few pics/video clips of the work in progress.
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@Intelligence_06
I feel like everything you said is complete nonsense.
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@Greyparrot
Oh this isn't a Greyparrot thread?
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@MisterChris
Just saying we should reconsider hyperbolic claims.
First Greyparrot thread huh?
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@WaterPhoenix
don't think scum's that stupid ngl
I'll claim tomorrow if it is that important to you lol. In fact we might want to do a mass claim tomorrow since we will have only one scum left.
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@Vader
oh really? huh, figured it was you because you were tunneling me so hard. Might have been scum trying to make water's silliness look more credible. Or water upvoted his own post who knows lol. Sorry for calling you an idiot then.
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@WaterPhoenix
ok sorry for being stupid
I accept your apology.
but what's your role
Scum is going to kill me tonight anyway out of frustration for catching speed so you can just read my flip tomorrow.
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I just read oros death flip more closely and one of the items that can be given is "vest" which I assume means like a bulletproof vest, so speed is asking that we believe the town setup has a guy that can give out bulletproof vests AND a doc. Right...
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@Vader
Yes Oro visited me. I received an item from him
Thank you for the verification.
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@Barney
@WaterPhoenix
@BearMan
Just need one more. Unlike the first DP where we were waiting for a replacement I see no reason to stall this one but there is not necessarily any need to rush it either if any of you have anything important that needs to be said.
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@Vader
I copped Disc last night and it failed in case y’all wondered
Now that we have lynched their roleblocker you can cop me again tonight and finally put this whole thing behind us, buddy.
2 down 1 to go.
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@Speedrace
Bro don't act like you didn't already know, that convo is probably how you figured out oro was a gift giver and the reason you killed him.
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@Speedrace
And I'm saying you could be lying about getting the telescope.
Oro basically verified that he gave it to me last DP. He said, "yo disc tell everyone what you got last night bro" then I said "Yo I got this fancy ass shiny telescope homie. Did you give it to me? If you didn't give it to me just say so." Then he didn't say anything. Then he was ruthlessly murdered.
That is word for word what happened. Everyone can go back and see that conversation.
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@Speedrace
Disc is assuming that Supa was RBd when it is likely that he wasn't.
Bro why else would his action fail?
Also who did you "doc" NP 1 and why not reveal that info as soon as you claimed?
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@skittlez09
Speed role blocked our claimed cop, lynch please.
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@Speedrace
Or you're lying lol, or you're an ascetic or something like that
No, I am not an ascetic.
what do you mean by me lying? are you saying you did not visit supa? You are going to claim doc but then say that you did not protect THE CLAIMED COP? Your story is falling apart dude.
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@Vader
Supa listen, I know you get very bad tunnel vision sometimes like with press during the last game but I need you to do something. I need you to verify for the town that oro visited you last night. Don't need to say what he gave you, just say he gave you something. It has already been proven last DP that oro gave me the telescope, I used that telescope to watch you because you claimed cop and I wanted to potentially catch a killer. That is how I know you were visited by oro and speed last night. We all know what oro did but it is obvious now that speed blocked you since your results failed. Please don't let him weasel his way out of this.
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@Speedrace
Bro you and oro were the only ones that visited supa.
Supa can verify that he was visited by oro because he got a gift. How would I know that if I did not use the telescope on supa (which oro verified last DP that he gave me)?
How did supas action fail if he was not role blocked?
Sorry dud you have been caught.
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@Speedrace
Also just FYI, copping Lunatic was extremely dumb
Fucking THANK YOU goddamn.
Unfortunately you must die now you have been caught sorry friend.
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@Barney
@ILikePie5
@WaterPhoenix
@skittlez09
@BearMan
VTL Speedrace
Supa says he was role blocked, I used my telescope last night on supa. He was visited by speedrace and oromagi.
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@Vader
@WaterPhoenix
@Disccan you explain you're character claim being countered by croc and him being the actual character? if you've already talked about this last dp sorry, but can you please link the post?
WTF are you talking about? Water, you are stupid for making this post. Supa, you are stupid for upvoting it.
I am surrounded by idiots.
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@Vader
Dear lord above do you have Aspergers? that was obviously a joke claim.
I am out of here, this is too much. Poke me if you need me nerds.
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@Vader
@ILikePie5
@WaterPhoenix
@skittlez09
See above
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@Lunatic
@oromagi
@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
@BearMan
I claim "super badass". If I live to DP 3 town automatically wins. If you are scum please kill me now to avoid a cheap loss.
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@Vader
Omg I can't even. Mafia please kill me tonight and end my suffering.
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Would you cop a claimed miller?I wouldn't
Good, that is the correct answer. Now please explain why you would not cop a miller.
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@Vader
At this point I am just me trying to teach you how to be a better cop so you don't waste your NP 2 action the same way you wasted your NP 1 action.
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@Vader
We already knew he was not beloved princess because of croc flipping innocent.
Croc flipping innocent is what told us lunatic was lying.
Therefore your guilty did not tell us lunatic was lying, because we already knew that without your guilty.
Therefore your guilty told us nothing.
Therefore your action was wasted.
I ask again... Would you cop a claimed miller?
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@Vader
Let me put it another way... would you use a cop action on someone that claimed miller? Why or why not?
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@Vader
What you have an issue with is not important to me. I am trying to explain why everyone is saying that you wasted your cop action.
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@Vader
It isn't a waste of role because he could easily be lying
Your guilty changed nothing though, hence wasted role.
Like... say for example you were not a cop and did not cop him. What would be different? He still would have claimed TP. He still would be at the top of everyone's lynch list. None of that was because of your guilty.
I am trying to teach you how to get good supa.
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