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@oromagi
uncharacteristically temperamental
How so?
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I would worry a lot more about the Strongman, though.
Sounds like a confession to me.
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Also small note here...
It would be really useful if you fuckers SAID WHAT YOU MEAN rather than just SAYING RANDOM GODDAMN WORDS.
For the last few games certain individuals... Not naming any names... But certain people have been saying the word 'lynch' every time they mean to say vote and vice versa.
Example:
Person 1: VTL Person 2
Person 2: woah, you just lynched me! why?
Person 1: What the fuck are you talking about? You only have one vote on you. You have not been lynched.
It is FUCKING ANNOYING. A huge part of this game is proper communication so when you intentionally sabotage communication by switching around random words you are fucking everyone over.
Now certain people... Again not naming names... Are using the word 'shoot' and the word 'lynch/vote' (since as I said before they apparently think these words mean the same thing) interchangeably... I AM PUTTING AN END TO THIS BULLSHIT ONCE AND FOR ALL. FUCKING STOP IT.
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@Club
Y vtl'ing mhar tho?
Are you really asking me why I voted? I explained my vote in the same post I made it.
Why are you specifically defending Mharman specifically from me? There are plenty of other people voting for Mharman and plenty of other people being voted for that you could defend.
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The whole point of the phrase "WIFOM" is to show the folly of overthinking shit.
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My working theory at this point is that PressF4 is a lone mafia goon and the rest of us are town so killing him will end the game, but nobody wants to lynch him because they are overthinking things so the fastest way to kill PressF4 is for us to end the DP and me to shoot him.
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@Greyparrot
@oromagi
I'm fine with this until we hear from Mhar. Your theory could be everything or nothing- I have no insight either way.
You will not regret this. Give me the name of someone who has wronged you and I will visit my wrath upon them.
Perhaps I will visit a deadly curse upon their great great grand children in 100 years time. A terrifying deadly curse that causes a long and painful death where they bleed from the ears and shit out their mouths.
Or maybe I'll, I don't know, make them stub their toe or something. I am still a bit groggy from the nap so will probably just wing it, I'm sure I'll do fine though.
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@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
@Club
Vote Mhar and I promise sweet death and destruction will befall your enemies
(My name is Mharman and I approve this message)
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
@oromagi
@WaterPhoenix
@PressF4Respect
A vote for Mharman is a vote for smiting the unbelievers. Vote Mharman today.
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@oromagi
In my good old days I told middle aged white women to love themselves and disco.
We can do some of that later. My backstory for this game is going to be that I just woke up from a several thousand year long nap and noticed that Egypt is still a fucking thing so that pissed me off and I really need to smite some shit to let off steam. After that we can party and cocaine and shit for a few decades then I'll figure out what I want to do next.
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Unvote VTL Mharman
Fine, I'll just shoot F4 tonight if you you guys are too scared.
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@oromagi
any advice re: insane setup?
I am mutherfucking Yahweh. My advice is to do as we did in the good old days, rain fire and brimstone and death upon the blasphemous swine of... Whatever foreign nation we decide we hate this week.
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@Greyparrot
F4 is a bomb.
I actually would not be surprised if he is the only scum, given the context of the game.
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Nevermind I just now actually read the OP and saw PressF4 is mod confirmed scum.
Unvote VTL PressF4
We should all shoot Mharman during the NP. Obviously scum by mod psyc.
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Okay I am going to VTL Mharman. Mod psychology, check out post 111 of the mafia mod signups.
Everyone needs to double check their PMs and verify whether they are 12x BP or 12x deathproof. I am 12x deathproof ( plus 12x vig obviously)
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@Speedrace
Are Supa and Water lovers by chance?
Why are you trying to conclude info from people's characters? You are embarrassing yourself, it is glaringly obvious that characters don't mean anything in this game.
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@oromagi
Calm your tits I am still catching up.
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@oromagi
WTF?deathproof is the scum version of bulletproof.
Deathproof just means he is protected from all deaths, not just the ones that involve bullets. This includes lynches, fire, poison, etc.
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@Vader
Are you sure you are bulletproof and not deathproof?
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@Speedrace
NVM, I asked that before reading page 2 where I saw you answer.
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@Speedrace
I'M 12 SHOT AND BULLET PROOF TOO
Check your PM again, does it say bulletproof?
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@Alec
Not everyone has to be CEOs, some could be CFOs, COOs, etc. All those corporate executive positions in general are what average out to the $500,000 figure mentioned in the OP.
Also not all corporations need stores. There are construction companies as just one example. No store needed.
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@Ramshutu
As I understand it, the issue isn’t necessarily the removal of votes; but that it’s very hard to unwind the completion of the debate when removing a vote. You’re not just removing a vote - you have to unwind everything that occurs when the win happens. Tying those mechanics to the rather simple removal of a vote entry is more complex and problematic than you may think. While there may be other possible updates that could work around this, I suspect they all come with their particular issues too.
What about just delaying things like elo/win count etc. Just add on a 24 hour (or however long it usually takes to moderate a vote) 'blank' period after the voting period during which elo is not updated and no new votes may be added but existing votes may be removed, only adjusting leaderboard data after the 'blank' period.
Still relatively programing heavy but much less so than trying to make it so that votes can be removed after the fact under the current system.
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Yeah, actually might not be able to get around to collecting that data for you this week either. There is a possibility that I will be moving in a new roommate this week, guy from one of my old job that needs some help.
Yay not living alone anymore =/
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@crossed
This disproves Evolution because Morals are not something taught to us by our parents.
The claim you are making here is that [IF] evolutionary theory is accurate [THEN] morality is something which is taught to us by society.
Do you have any justification for this claim?
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@PressF4Respect
I just put a question mark at the end because the rules require it?
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@PressF4Respect
I have seen many grown men naked, yes...?
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@Speedrace
Why are you sometimes weird?
Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
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@Ramshutu
Robots would be the employees.
Not all jobs can be done by robots but we can still manage (see post 14).
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@Alec
There wouldn't be enough people to buy all that food though.
There are other types of companies, not just food companies.
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@PressF4Respect
Do I look like the type of guy that goes around not seeing grown men naked?
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@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
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@Speedrace
Does there have to be some type of theme in terms of how mafia and town is split? Mine currently isn't set up like that
There does not have to be but there generally is and I can't really see any point in having a themed game if there isn't.
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@Mharman
I can't help but feel a better claim may have saved him.
If it would have prevented you from voting for him as town then that would be poor play on your part. Theme analysis of that kind is generally useless DP 1 and even in later DPs should always take a backseat to behavior analysis.
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@Speedrace
In short people behave certain ways while they are town and certain different ways while mafia. It is an unavoidable aspect of human psychology, the only way to completely eleminate it is to not look at your PM (which is obviously not a good option). It can be minimized however, and the first step to minimizing it is being aware of it and acknowledging that you cannot eliminate it.
What convinced Wylted and I beyond any doubt that you were scum was meta analysis from comparing your town play in celeberties mafia.
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@Speedrace
Are you familiar with the phrase "meta analysis" as it relates to mafia games?
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@Mharman
Neither of their claims had any bearing on anyone's reads on them. Speed was lynched for clear meta divergence and press was lynched because he did nothing to make anyone think he was town and didn't really play.
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Overall, OP town and half the mafia team played horribly. Town win was inevitable.
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@Vader
Sitting around waiting til sused is boring ngl.
Then don't do that...
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@Mharman
PressF4 was fairly innactive, only ever coming to the DP when someone tagged him. Why is he MVP?
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Are credit cards good from an economic point of view? Doesn't matter. We don't get to choose whether credit cards exist. We only get to choose whether we use them, they will exist no matter what we do.
That makes it a completely different question - a personal finance question - and from that point of view the answer is objectively that having a credit card is a net benefit to the holder.
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