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@coal
I knew something was up from you
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@thett3
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Excpet he doesnt own the business, BUSTED
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I was against pulling troops from iraq
I was against pulling troops from Afghanistan
I am against the move on Syria too
Since the dawn of time, you move in AND YOU STAY THERE FOREVER
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@PressF4Respect
I have overthrown Castin, GULAG IT IS I SERVE THE SOVIET UNION
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Honestly Dubya is better than Trump now,just these last 2 weeks
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@PressF4Respect
HUH YOU DARE SUMMON HSI PRESSENCE
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@PressF4Respect
WELL GUESS WHAT????
I OWN THE KGB, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MESS WITH ME HUH
(bsh1 we are joking,we are good friends)
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@coal
That's exactly what Therealnihlist is,congrats
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@coal
one for every forum, why is that a shock to you
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@coal
Who are you
In fact, what are us?
are you even real
Am I even real,GASP
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@coal
Every single part of that post,uhhh cringe
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@secularmerlin
I get where your coming from and I think this conversation has run it's core, We have gotten off topic, agree to disagree
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@ludofl3x
is the implication all gods that are no longer worshiped are that way because they are false (and not due to cultural changes like Rome overtaking Greece then Constantinople overtaking Rome?)? In this case, how many worshipers would need to stat worhsiping Zeus in order for you to suspect he is real?Doesn't that imply then that any CURRENT god being actively worshiped is at least probably real and exists?I give you the god of Scientology, Xenu. Please prove he is not real.
Ok so let's say that multiple gods exist and they all tey to communicate with Humans, the best God who is Omnipotent and Infinite iq would find the best way and snatch up the most humans to their religion, but all Gods are omnipotent and infinitely smart, so all humans would know about them, BUT the Abrahamic God is the only one where a Very large majority of humans know about, it is the only God that exists since it was the smartest and the most I guess "God-Like".
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Oh my God im so sorry, please dont post this on your tumblr
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@secularmerlin
Assuming for the benefit of the discussion that it was 'right' may I suggest that how is indeed the issue and that if your claim is that the answer is that some god(s) were inv6then that is exactly the claim you need to demonstrate.
Well, God inspired the authors of the Bible, therefore Isaiah, in this case, had knowledge only God knew. While writing the Bible, God spoke to Isiah and told him the exact words about the universe.
I do not see your logic only an argument ad populum.
Ok so let's say that multiple gods exist and they all tey to communicate with Humans, the best God who is Omnipotent and Infinite iq would find the best way and snatch up the most humans to their religion, but all Gods are omnipotent and infinitely smart, so all humans would know about them, BUT the Abrahamic God is the only one where a Very large majority of humans know about, it is the only God that exists since it was the smartest and the most I guess "God-Like".
If by coincidence you mean by unguided causality with no real purpose nor a will to determine any purpose other than the will of living organisms then it would certainly seem to be.
The Purpose was to pave the way for humans with Adam and Eve, Sea Creatures before land Creatures, water before land,etc Genesis 1 is fact and the days are millions of years
I agree that arguing against evolution is untenable given the dearth of evidence. As to the rest how have you determined the yahweh"s plan if not from the very book you are trying to prove? And if your source is also the subject you are trying to demonstrate then your argument by necessity will become circular.
The plan is in the holy scriptures and books, Jews get this, Christians get this, Muslims get this, etc. Science doesn't leave room for interpretation but Scripture certainly does. So many people interpret the Bible differently because Everyone is different
Why on earth would I believe there is one then?
Because Me, personally can not give an outside perspective, isn't this about the confirmation bias stuff
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@zedvictor4
Yep. So the biblical mythology might be more reasonable than the previous Greek mythology
yeah, why do you think the Greek Gods fell and are no longer worshipped
But the bible had the advantage of improved human knowledge.
Sure, which means there was a God talking to him
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I got 7 different atheists tagging me, holy shit
Ill respong later
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You are using a very heavy interperative brush here. When taken at face value the literal wording of the text claims that the Yahweh created Adam fully formed from dust.
Sure humans before evolution was Neathernthals, is it a coincidence that they went extinct
I am willing to discuss your interpretation of course but only with the understanding that I have no particular reason to accept your opinion over the opinion of a bible literalist who denies evolution all together. You are both using the same source material.
That's why there are different churches and a Jewish Religion, God has a plan for all interpretations of his text, the Bible was meant for all interpretations, Also Evolution vs creation is useless if science is the same source material too.
Please show me the observable difference from an outside perspective.
Can't
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@zedvictor4
Right so you proved my point with these verses:
The Bible also says that the Earth floats in space on nothing. Consider Job 26:7 which states:”He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.”We now know today that yes, the Earth does hang on nothing. It is freely orbiting around the sun. To prove that the Bible has been correct, the ancient Greeks in the Bronze age when the Book of Job was written.[LINK] believed that the ancient God Titan Atlas held the Earth on his back.[LINK] The Bible has been correct before modern science could confirm it. Ancient people of God was correct while other ancient people without the Christian God were wrong.
expanding. This fact was proven by the Hubble Space Telescope in 1929.[LINK} The New York Times reports:
“In an expanding universe, the further something is away from you, the faster it is receding. Hubble’s constant tells by how much.But measuring it requires divining the distances of lights in the sky — stars and even whole galaxies that we can never visit or recreate in the lab. The strategy since Hubble’s day has been to find so-called standard candles, stars or whole galaxies whose distances can be calculated by how bright they look from Earth.”[LINK]
The Book of Isaiah was written in the 8th Century B.C, doing some math that means that the people inspired by the Christian God and the Bible knew about the expanding universe 2,629 years before it was officially discovered.
The Universe is Expanding and The Bible got it right. Let’s take Isaiah 40:22 again-”it is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
This verse also proves that the universe is expanding, basically saying that God has expanded the universe, and spread them out further. We now know today that yes, the universe isexpanding. This fact was proven by the Hubble Space Telescope in 1929.[LINK} The New York Times reports:
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This is actually my question. The bible says some stuff and some of that stuff is arguably in line with our current scientific understanding. So what?
Because it was right before we figured it out, how?
Failed at what? In what context?
If other religions existed and they arent as popular then than the Abrahamic Religions, their god failed, which means they dont exist, see my logic
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@secularmerlin
Actually, the opposite is true, The Biblical Timeline in Genesis meets the timeline of Science, basically, God used science to create Evolution and humans.The genesis story in the bible contradicts both our best current theories about the diversity of species and the formation of the current local (observable) universe and also itself confusing the order in which the Yahweh created.
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It doesn't matter. The bible and the Koran are both interesting books with a lot of historical importance and both contain some very nice sentiments and some things that are just monstrous.
So what
Please show me the observable difference from an outside perspective. Also this fails to address the thousands of religions besides christianity and Islam many of which you and I have to little collective knowledge of to have an informed conversation about them.
what religions, they clearly failed
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@Vader
oh ok
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@Vader
What thread
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@Vader
Plus that was Casten
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@Vader
Wait what happened
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@Vader
The mods wont side with RM
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@Vader
Well pretty much, he did the same thing to me 2 months ago
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No evidence
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