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@sadolite

Oh, I forgot to add Stephen and Envisage.
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@sadolite

Well, I did graduate from MIT and Harvard and I am older than Fauxlaw. There are 3 other people on this topic with high reasoning ability. They are Double_R,Bones and zedvictor4. Why don't you ask them?
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@sadolite

Of course people with a lack of reasoning ability will not agree with this.
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@sadolite
Atheism is no different than religion
That is not true. Being an atheist is because of one's reasoning ability. Being religious is based on one's lack of reasoning ability. Elon Musk doesn’t claim to have any religious beliefs. In an interview with Rainn Wilson (Dwight from the US version of The Office) when asked if science and religion can coexist, Musk replied, “Probably not”. To the next question, “Do you pray?”, he answered, “I didn’t even pray when I almost died of malaria.”
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They honestly believe we're subpar human beings who don't deserve to live.
That's not true. All the strippers I know are theists amd I love them. I bet Trump says the same thing about Melania.
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Bill Gates was profiled in a January 13, 1996 TIME magazine cover story. Here are some excerpts compiled by the Drudge Report:
"Isn't there something special, perhaps even divine, about the human soul?" interviewer Walter Isaacson asks Gates "His face suddenly becomes expressionless," writes Isaacson, "his squeaky voice turns toneless, and he folds his arms across his belly and vigorously rocks back and forth in a mannerism that has become so mimicked at MICROSOFT that a meeting there can resemble a round table of ecstatic rabbis."
"I don't have any evidence on that," answers Gates. "I don't have any evidence of that."
He later states, "Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning."
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Would You Join This Religion?
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@Polytheist-Witch

Well, there have been many cases of sexual abuse of children by Catholic priestsnuns and members of religious orders.
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@Polytheist-Witch
But atheists think theists are stupid 
I will let Gary O'Reilly speak for me. He says:

I’m an atheist, one of those crazy internet ones who actively believe there is no god rather than just not actively believing in one.
I used to think theists were stupid. And being somewhat theistic (or at least deistic) myself as a youth, I thought that my younger self was stupid too.
Nowadays I’ve grown up a lot, had various discussions about belief that were more than “haha they thought a bush set itself on fire and spoke to a guy” you get on some of those atheist forums and stuff. So I don’t think theists are stupid, but there is an undeniable sense that there’s something weird about the idea. It’s like if someone you knew just absolutely insisted that 2+2 = 6. Everything else is fine, they’re not an asshole and you get on with them well, but they’re firm on that. You’re not going to cut them out of your life, and you’re going to remain friends with them, but every now and then the thought “this guy thinks 2 + 2 = 6” is gonna pop into your head and weird you out a little bit.
I don’t know if theists can truly understand just how weird and sinister religion and religious belief can appear to someone who is completely outside of it. And that’s a barrier you can never quite get over, I don’t think. There’s always that thought at the back of your head that says “this guy believes in some weird stuff, man, and even bases his life around it” and that is fundamentally disturbing to me. Not massively so. Not “I’m gonna take the kids and run screaming from your presence” disturbing. Not even “I’m not going to invite you to the next social event” disturbing, but it’s there, and it’s something I can never quite, 100% get out of my considerations.
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In a recent book by a leading figure in
transpersonal psychology, the psychiatrist Stanislav Grof:
There are . . . reported cases where individuals who were blind be
cause of a medically confirmed organic damage to their optical sys
tem could at the time of clinical death see the environment. . .
Occurrences of this kind, unlike most of the other aspects of near
death phenomena, can be subjected to objective verification. They
thus represent the most convincing proof that what happens in near
death experiences is more than the hallucinatory phantasmagoria
of physiologically impaired brains. (1994, p. 31)
Yet there is reason, we think, not to leap too quickly to the conclu
sion that the evidence supporting visual perception in the blind is as
solid as Grof's statement would imply. In fact, when one begins to
look into the basis for these claims, they appear to dissolve into the
mists of hearsay, unsubstantiated anecdote and other dead ends-and
even, in one case, outright fabrication. For example, Kubler-Ross and
Schoonmaker have never documented the cases they have mentioned
or published any details concerning them. Similarly, when one of us
(K. R.) pressed Raymond Moody for further particulars about the blind
person he described in one of his books, he could only remember that
he had heard that account on an audio cassette provided to him by
an elderly physician, but he no longer had the tape and could not
recall the physician's name (R. Moody, personal communication, 1992).
And the compelling case of Sarah, so vividly portrayed by Dossey,
turned out, as he confessed in a letter to K. R., to be a complete
fiction, though Dossey justified it on the grounds that such cases
seemed to be implied by the literature on NDEs (L. Dossey, personal
communication, 1990). Indeed, Susan Blackmore (1993) has recently
reviewed all this evidence and concluded that none of it holds up to
scrutiny. In short, according to her, there is no convincing evidence
of visual perception in the blind during NDEs, much less documented
support for veridical perception (Blackmore, 1993).


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@n8nrgmi

Memories Are Passed Through DNA From Your Grandparents, Say Scientists. This is why people that have always been blind think they see in NDE's.
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Major woo woo
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@Polytheist-Witch

See:  Woo Woo & Poo Poo - YouTube
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Major woo woo

Oh, sorry, I thought the topic was about laxitives
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Piles of Gold or Golden Piles?

An example of legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.  Uzzah with his brother Ahio, drove the cart on which the ark was placed when David sought to bring it up to Jerusalem. When the oxen stumbled, making the ark tilt, Uzzah steadied the ark with his hand, in direct violation of the divine law, and he was immediately killed by the Lord for his error.
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@Greyparrot

Yes, Noel Casler who worked for Trump once tweeted: "He wears adult diapers, has since at least 2007. We would often stop taping on ‘Apprentice’ because of his rage over not being able to read a word on a cue-card. He would scream at crew until he soiled himself, then go snort more Adderall and change Depends."
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Oh, sorry, I thought the topic was the number of people that would vote for Trump in 2024.
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@Tradesecret

I think Albert Einstein's quote says it all : “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”
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@Polytheist-Witch

Elon Musk reportedly asks Tesla managers who don't execute orders to 'resign immediately,' according to leaked emails.

Why doesn't God do the same to his clergy?

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PERSONAL QUESTION: Are you a veteran?
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@oromagi

No, I was a draft dodger like Trump.  Later, I did work for the Navy in Diego Garcia. Anyone else been to The Brit Club there?
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@Stephen
Yes, in one of the rounds of fighting between the Israelites and the Philistines, the Israelites decided to deploy an unconventional weapon – the Ark of the Covenant. According to 1 Samuel, the ark was brought to the battlefield, but the outcome was catastrophic. The Israelite army was defeated and the ark fell into enemy hands. The Philistines took it to Ashdod and placed it next to a statue of their god, Dagon.

But the ark was to have its revenge: The statue fell, its hands were cut off, and the Philistines were struck with a plague of hemorrhoids. In their despair, they sent the ark back up north to Israel. The people of Kiryat Yearim were summoned to pick it up: “And the men of Kiriath-Yearim came, and fetched up the ark of the LORD, and brought it into the house of Abinadab in the hill, and sanctified Eleazar his son to keep the ark of the Lord” (1 Sam. 7:1). The ark remained on “the hill” until King David brought it to Jerusalem decades later.

The Bible is laughable isn't it?
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@Polytheist-Witch

Why would God want someone like them to represent Him? Shouldn't He have given them strokes or heart attacks instead of a lot of money?
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Jimmy Swaggart, American televangelist and gospel music performer. He was defrocked by the Assemblies of God in 1988 after a sex scandal involving prostitutes.

Pastor Jim Bakker spent 8 years in jail.

Praise God!
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Would You Join This Religion?

Remember when Stephen said: “I believe the simplest explanation is, there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization that there probably is no heaven and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe and for that, I am extremely grateful.” ?

Oh, sorry, I meant Stephen Hawking.
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Would You Join This Religion?
Religion may once have been the opium of the people, but in large swaths of the world the masses have kicked the habit. In countries once dominated by churches characterised by patriarchy, ritual and hierarchy, the pews have emptied and people have found other sources of solace, spirituality and morality.
In the US, those who say they are atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular” is up from 17% in 2009 to 26% last year. In Britain, according to the most recent data, more than half the population proclaimed no faith in 2018, a figure that rose from 43% to 52% in a decade. -Harriet Sherwood

It is interesting to note that 26 percent of the US population has an IQ over 110.
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@Castin


I think Zed is saying that people who believe in deities are using the same logic they used when they believed in Santa Claus.
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Rittenhouse Trial

17-year-olds can vote in Congressional and/or Presidential primaries and caucuses in a large number of states, including Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, Utah, Virginia, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming.  I'm guessing Kyle voted for Trump.
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Christians, we’re in BIG TROUBLE if certain books are removed from schools!

BrotherD.Thomas is back!  Praise Jesus!!!!!
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The ultimate arrogance of climate change advocates
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@949havoc
And, arrogant because at present, the total contribution of "renewable energy," which happens to include fossil fuels,
Fossil fuels are not really fossil fuels and are not renewable. Oil and natural gas do not come from fossilized dinosaurs! Thus, they are not fossil fuels. That’s a myth. According to Wikipedia, the term “fossil fuel” was first used by German chemist Caspar Neumann in 1759. It was subsequently used more ubiquitously in the early 1900s to give people the idea that petroleum, coal and natural gas come from ancient living things, making them a natural substance. Petroleum, natural gas and coal come from biomass, primarily from plankton and decaying marine organisms, and “single-celled bacteria” that “evolved in the Earth’s oceans about three billion years ago. Over millions of years, layers of sediment built up, along with plants (plankton and algae) and bacteria. Heat and pressure began to rise. The degree of heat and the amount of pressure, along with the type of biomass, determine if the material becomes petroleum or natural gas.
Over the course of millions of years, “members of these massive colonies died off” and “sank to the bottom of the sea and were gradually covered by accumulating sediment. Over millions of years, these layers of sediment grew heavier and heavier until the dead bacteria trapped below were ‘cooked’ by the pressure and temperature into a stew of liquid hydrocarbons.
As for coal, the world’s coal deposits “were laid down during the Carboniferous period, about 300 million years ago—which was still a good 75 million or so years before the evolution of the first dinosaurs.” Coal was formed when the dense forests and jungles were “buried beneath layers of sediment, and their unique fibrous chemical structure caused them to be ‘cooked’ into solid coal rather than liquid oil.


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Why is AstraZeneca not an approved vaccine in the US if it's agreed to produce and export for it?

Similar to the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine, the AstraZeneca vaccine relies on a chimpanzee adenovirus to carry spike proteins from the coronavirus into your body to create an immune response.
Adenovirus is a very common virus. Usually causing mild illnesses like the common cold, adenoviruses are widespread and efficient. There are more than 50 types of adenoviruses that cause respiratory infections, and they are good at moving into and attacking the body in various ways. A chimpanzee adenovirus is an adenovirus that causes these infections in chimpanzees.
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Vaccine survey
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@RationalMadman
1. Are you vaccinated 
     Yes

2. Which vaccine, why that vaccine?
     Moderna, my research said it was the best.

3. Do you support vaccine mandates?
        No, that is how evolution works.

4. Do you believe Covid is a left-wing conspiracy?
      No



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@Mharman

Do you have black hair that you comb over your forehead and a narrow black mustache?
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@Mharman


      I don't know, are you a Schicklgruber?
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How to overturn Roe v. Wade

Morals

Morals are the prevailing standards of behavior that enable people to live cooperatively in groups. Moral refers to what societies sanction as right and acceptable.
Most people tend to act morally and follow societal guidelines. Morality often requires that people sacrifice their own short-term interests for the benefit of society. People or entities that are indifferent to right and wrong are considered amoral, while those who do evil acts are considered immoral.
While some moral principles seem to transcend time and culture, such as fairness, generally speaking, morality is not fixed. Morality describes the particular values of a specific group at a specific point in time. Historically, morality has been closely connected to religious traditions, but today its significance is equally important to the secular world. For example, businesses and government agencies have codes of ethics that employees are expected to follow.
Some philosophers make a distinction between morals and ethics. But many people use the terms morals and ethics interchangeably when talking about personal beliefs, actions, or principles. For example, it’s common to say, “My morals prevent me from cheating.” It’s also common to use ethics in this sentence instead.
So, morals are the principles that guide individual conduct within society. And, while morals may change over time, they remain the standards of behavior that we use to judge right and wrong.

From above, "Morality describes the particular values of a specific group at a specific point in time." hence it is data.
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Heaven


God used to speak to people from clouds and burning bushes, so why doesn't he go on Facebook and show pictures of Heaven?
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@949havoc

Trump's grandfather died from the Spanish flu in 1918. Yet in 2020, Donald Trump said he "didn't know people died from the flu" during a visit to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) headquarters.
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Launch of The James Webb Telescope.


            Live long and prosper !
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Virginia and New Jersey Election Threads

I bet that the Chinese now think Republican's can Make China Great Again!
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Linguistics

I think that God is just showing that he approves of abortion.
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Blue moon, and the failure of determinism

Proof that thoughts are physical.  Anesthetics primarily act on receptors located in the brain and produce oscillations in the brain's circuits, leading to a state of consciousness that it is much more similar to a coma than to sleep.


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@Tradesecret
‘I, (name), take you, (name)
to be my wife/husband,
to have and to hold
from this day forward;
for better, for worse,
for richer, for poorer,
in sickness and in health,
to love and to cherish,
till death us do part,
according to God’s holy law.
In the presence of God I make this vow.’

You probably laugh at that, don't you?

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SALT deductions are welfare for the rich.
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@Greyparrot

Well, Jeff Bezos is a Democrat.
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Heaven

What language do you speak in Heaven?  Is it Vulcan, dif-tor heh smusma?
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@Reece101

Does this religion allow you to have 5 children with 3 different wives?  I know Christianity does.
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Tiki Torches.

White nationalists used tiki torches to light up their Charlottesville march.
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“The word God is for me nothing but the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of venerable but still primitive legends,” 

Albert Einstein 1954
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It’s time to remember that we, the people are the government.

"All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they’re doing. And stolen by the fake news media. That’s what they’ve done and what they’re doing. We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved."   Donald Trump  Jan 6, 2021
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Here is a review of Neil Grossman by one of his students at University of Illinois.

This class was a joke. Basically all about religion and these stories of the afterlife "proving" it exists. I got in an argument with one of the guest speakers because she came in telling us she had died and seen god and his kingdom and he is real. Eventually, got graded on something I thought was strictly opinions. Lowest grade I received at UIC.
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@Polytheist-Witch

There are different interpretations of quantum physics that suggest a deterministic universe (eg. Many-Worlds interpretation) , so I would say that this topic should be in the Science and Nature section.
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My billionth try

I'm guessing Polytheist has a jacket that says  'I Really Don't Care, Do U?' .
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Happy indigenous peoples Day!

Columbus’ strong ties to Portugal have led many to believe he was born there, not in Genoa. Some historians have argued that his marriage into a noble Portuguese family would have been unlikely had he been an unknown (and yet-unproven) foreigner. In 2012, Fernando Branco, an engineering professor at the University of Lisbon, published a book that argued that Columbus was actually Portuguese-born and his real name was Pedro Ataíde. Ataíde, the illegitimate child of a Portuguese lord, was presumed to have died in a naval battle in 1476. But Branco and a number of Portuguese historians believe that he actually survived, and to avoid persecution for his family’s possible treasonous opposition to the Portuguese crown, changed his name to Culon, after a French sailor he served with, embarking on a new life with a new identity.

 Columbus died of severe arthritis at the age of 54.

Columbus spoke  Latin, Portuguese, and Spanish.
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the USA should implement a wealth tax

We should go back to the top tax rate of 92 percent that Eisenhower had to pay off the debt of World War 2.
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