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@Mall
I might have actually been wrong, I'm starting to realize this Jew who's book I'm reading is a little overly aggressive and tells half-truths half-lies when debunking christianity.
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@Mall
According to the bible that would be Judaism.
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@Sir.Lancelot
sounds like a good idea
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@Sidewalker
I have met a freemason, a couple in fact that I know of. One is nothing special and the other is the biggest piece of shit I ever knew.
You're quite literally one of the biggest morons on this site. Your argument against determinism is "but you can't be right unless you had the choice to be right or wrong". On the contrary no one can choose how intelligent they are, and the being that is most likely to be correct about everything would be a being that has no choice but to be correct about everything.
You're quite literally one of the biggest morons on this site. Your argument against determinism is "but you can't be right unless you had the choice to be right or wrong". On the contrary no one can choose how intelligent they are, and the being that is most likely to be correct about everything would be a being that has no choice but to be correct about everything.
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1: The Catholic Church accepts EO sacraments as valid and EO bishops as having apostolic succession, and thus magisterial authority. This undermines the Catholic Church's "one true church" concept. You in fact don't need to be in communion with Rome. But wait, yes you do? No you don't, stop contradicting yourself.
2: Catholics can't actually tell you definitively what statements are "ex cathedra" except for two of them. There are two instances of ex cathedra which are undisputed, the rest are debated. With no infallible list of infallible teachings, you don't actually have infallible teachings. Catholics claim that the Pope is protected from teaching heresy by the holy spirit, however popes have been condemned by ecumenical councils as heretics. The primary example is Pope Honorius being condemned in the sixth and seventh ecumenical councils for his support of monothelitism (Christ having one will as opposed to the orthodox view which is dyothelitism/christ having two wills).
3: After the great schism the Catholic church became so corrupt that the protestant reformation was actually justified, which Catholicism is forced to admit by virtue of the fact that the Catholic church was forced to reform itself to compete with protestantism after kicking out reformers and calling them heretics. The spirit of protestantism to simply make up random doctrines arguably comes from Catholicism, because the Catholic church believes whatever they teach is true just because they're the ones teaching it and they can simply change whatever they feel like changing. While not as bad in this regard as protestants, the Catholic church is still more prone to theological liberalism than EO churches because modern opinions are seen as equally valid to time-honored tradition in many cases. This also comes from the "intellectualism" of western Christianity, an over-reliance on human reason which the bible warns against and which I'm starting to realize isn't so great after seeing Thomas Aquinas' pathetic attempts to "prove" God. Western Christians trust too much in their own ability to understand things and thus are too hasty to develop doctrine.
4: Orthodox Christians have more of a reputation of having a toxic online presence, as well as letting state interests seep into the church particularly in Russia. You shouldn't judge an entire denom by edgy people online who may just be larping, but in my experience I have been insulted by Catholics multiple times but have never had a negative encounter with an EO Christian. As for state interference, politics have found their way into the Catholic church plenty of times. Also let us not forget that the actual catholic clergy themselves have raped children and protected child rapists among their ranks, whereas EO is often only guilty by association. For example human trafficking may be more common in some EO countries, but is there evidence that the church is responsible?
5: EO are seen as the edgy alt-right Christians and less charitable than western Christians. The Catholic church is indeed the largest charitable organization on earth, but that is mostly because the catholic church is just larger in general. Not only is EO comparable in it's "fruits" pound for pound in terms of charity, but it's fruits may be better overall when you consider the lack of bending it's values to conform to modernity and the lack of violent persecution relative to the Catholic church. Catholics and Protestants have conducted large scale inquisitions where they burn people at the stake and torture them for heresy, often based on false accusations. Eastern Orthodox are often more merciful in their approach to disagreement with church doctrine, with all of the violent persecutions being spearheaded by government officials rather than the church itself.
2: Catholics can't actually tell you definitively what statements are "ex cathedra" except for two of them. There are two instances of ex cathedra which are undisputed, the rest are debated. With no infallible list of infallible teachings, you don't actually have infallible teachings. Catholics claim that the Pope is protected from teaching heresy by the holy spirit, however popes have been condemned by ecumenical councils as heretics. The primary example is Pope Honorius being condemned in the sixth and seventh ecumenical councils for his support of monothelitism (Christ having one will as opposed to the orthodox view which is dyothelitism/christ having two wills).
3: After the great schism the Catholic church became so corrupt that the protestant reformation was actually justified, which Catholicism is forced to admit by virtue of the fact that the Catholic church was forced to reform itself to compete with protestantism after kicking out reformers and calling them heretics. The spirit of protestantism to simply make up random doctrines arguably comes from Catholicism, because the Catholic church believes whatever they teach is true just because they're the ones teaching it and they can simply change whatever they feel like changing. While not as bad in this regard as protestants, the Catholic church is still more prone to theological liberalism than EO churches because modern opinions are seen as equally valid to time-honored tradition in many cases. This also comes from the "intellectualism" of western Christianity, an over-reliance on human reason which the bible warns against and which I'm starting to realize isn't so great after seeing Thomas Aquinas' pathetic attempts to "prove" God. Western Christians trust too much in their own ability to understand things and thus are too hasty to develop doctrine.
4: Orthodox Christians have more of a reputation of having a toxic online presence, as well as letting state interests seep into the church particularly in Russia. You shouldn't judge an entire denom by edgy people online who may just be larping, but in my experience I have been insulted by Catholics multiple times but have never had a negative encounter with an EO Christian. As for state interference, politics have found their way into the Catholic church plenty of times. Also let us not forget that the actual catholic clergy themselves have raped children and protected child rapists among their ranks, whereas EO is often only guilty by association. For example human trafficking may be more common in some EO countries, but is there evidence that the church is responsible?
5: EO are seen as the edgy alt-right Christians and less charitable than western Christians. The Catholic church is indeed the largest charitable organization on earth, but that is mostly because the catholic church is just larger in general. Not only is EO comparable in it's "fruits" pound for pound in terms of charity, but it's fruits may be better overall when you consider the lack of bending it's values to conform to modernity and the lack of violent persecution relative to the Catholic church. Catholics and Protestants have conducted large scale inquisitions where they burn people at the stake and torture them for heresy, often based on false accusations. Eastern Orthodox are often more merciful in their approach to disagreement with church doctrine, with all of the violent persecutions being spearheaded by government officials rather than the church itself.
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@WyIted
Yes I'm white, but I prefer spicy food.
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@WyIted
I wasn't meant to be born white because I like my spices. Well done steak is blasphemy though.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Ok I'll talk about sidewalker instead, that guy is a retard. I looked at his determinism debate and he thinks determinism is wrong because you can't be right about things unless you had the choice to be right. Ok so then you can't be wrong about things unless you have the choice to be wrong. What a retard.
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@TheGreatSunGod
I think a much better moral system is kill everyone and rape everyone and steal everything
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@TheGreatSunGod
I thirst for blood.
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I know from personal experience that freemasons aren't the upstanding moral beacons of light they claim to be. Much like Christians in general, there is a lot of self-righteousness and trying to uphold the appearance of being a good person and underneath it they are insufferable retards who lack any good qualities whatsoever.
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@Lemming
If a vegetable touched you, you would probably say "IT BURNS" and back away hissing
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@WyIted
What's the matter? Can't handle a little bit of spice? Does little baby Wylted's mouthy hurt from too much spices? Do you need the mods to come in and change Wylted's diapy ?
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@WyIted
I don't think the Christians here are any better than anyone else. Adaptable and Shila are both Catholics and they are both ass holes.
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"Looking at information that may challenge your worldview is a betrayal, Jesus would want you to be so afraid that he might not exist that you are afraid to look"
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If the founders were such devout Jews, why did they feel the need to misquote the old testament to fit their narrative
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@WyIted
I'm reading a book called Let's Get Biblical by Rabbi Tovia Singer and he points out all the times the new testament contradicts the old testament as well as how the church blended pagan concepts with Christianity.
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@TheGreatSunGod
you should try maple candy, it is the best kind of candy besides black liqourice and jolly ranchers which are close
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@Sir.Lancelot
There should be but there isn't
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10: black tea
9: coffee
8: maple candy
7: coconut rum with cream soda
6: scrambled eggs with cheese + spices/hot sauce
5: mac n cheese with broccoli and hot sauce
4: heavily seasoned medium-rare steak
3: roast beef/potato/carrot/celery/onion
2: chinese macaroni with bok choy and ground bison
1:wild caught alaskan salmon with mediterranean herbs
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@TheGreatSunGod
the best use of his time is to burn in jewish hell for worshipping a fake messiah
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@TheGreatSunGod
He's going to go to hell for committing idolatry and worshipping the false messiah Jesus.
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I recently discovered that Christianity is objectively wrong and as also been falsified by Jewish scholars. Christianity isn't as obvious though, you aren't inherently retarded for being a Christian. However if you simply contrast the Tanakh with the NT and listen to what Jews have to say about the bible and the history of the church Christianity has been 100% destroyed by them. Judaism is the only Abrahamic religion that has any chance of being true.
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@Sir.Lancelot
He's a mormon, that makes him inherently stupid.
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@WyIted
All of his toxic behavior comes from NPD, not autism.
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@Sidewalker
Why don't you research mormonism and learn about how completely unjustifiable it is to believe. There is probably no such thing as an intelligent mormon.
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@TheGreatSunGod
We were never friends, he has blocked me 1000 times just to unblock me for a while then block me again two weeks later because he demands the highest respect but doesn't respect me at all.
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Keep in mind mods that this guy has been posting on all my threads and voting on all my debates (specifically to vote against me every time)
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@Sidewalker
The only Mormon's I know are Joseph Smith himself (false prophet and conman) and fauxlaw (retarded douche bag)
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@yachilviveyachali
I didn't say being tall was the only factor that makes someone privileged or not, however being tall is always better than being short as a man.
As a woman you should know this since you automatically respect tall men more than short or average height men.
It is very obvious that fauxlaw is privileged and being 6'3 plays a big role in that. It also is a sign that he was well fed as a child, a luxury that not everyone gets to have handed to them.
You ask me "are you short" because you want to hypocritically say "see you just hate tall people because you're short" yet you see a problem with me judging people for being tall because you are the one who associates shortness with negative traits and tallness with positive ones.
As a woman you should know this since you automatically respect tall men more than short or average height men.
It is very obvious that fauxlaw is privileged and being 6'3 plays a big role in that. It also is a sign that he was well fed as a child, a luxury that not everyone gets to have handed to them.
You ask me "are you short" because you want to hypocritically say "see you just hate tall people because you're short" yet you see a problem with me judging people for being tall because you are the one who associates shortness with negative traits and tallness with positive ones.
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@Savant
Power is different from money, there is more of an evolutionary basis for that but it still isn't on the same level. The irony is that financial success and being in positions of power seems to be related to being taller and more attractive. People just like you and respect you more in general when you are tall and handsome, so such people are more likely to be handed opportunities on a silver platter both professionally and in dating.
There are stories of women being more emotionally hurt by a FWB ghosting them than a relationship that lasted over a decade. Women's standards for hookups are actually higher than for long term relationships, as long term is usually settling for financial and emotional security whereas hooking up/FWB is usually being fuckzoned by the guy they wish they could date and are so attracted to him they are willing to settle for that over dating a less attractive guy.
There are stories of women being more emotionally hurt by a FWB ghosting them than a relationship that lasted over a decade. Women's standards for hookups are actually higher than for long term relationships, as long term is usually settling for financial and emotional security whereas hooking up/FWB is usually being fuckzoned by the guy they wish they could date and are so attracted to him they are willing to settle for that over dating a less attractive guy.
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If there was a good God he wouldn't make a retarded douche bag have an easy privileged life just because he is 6'3
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This just affirms my point that you are blind to how evil God must be because you have a privileged life.
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@Savant
People value money as a means to access resources, this is different from evolving inherent mechanisms that trigger the desire to reproduce and be close to someone because they have money.
Would you rather have a wife that values you less as a mate but more as a person? That's called being friends, but do you REALLY believe that women value guys they see as friends more than guys she sees romantically?
Valuing you as a mate inherently means she cares about you more as a person.
Would you rather have a wife that values you less as a mate but more as a person? That's called being friends, but do you REALLY believe that women value guys they see as friends more than guys she sees romantically?
Valuing you as a mate inherently means she cares about you more as a person.
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@Savant
Because money hasn't existed long enough to play a part in how women's attraction instincts have evolved, and the alpha male is usually determined by which male is the largest for 99% of our evolutionary history. Women are attracted to genetics and value genetics, valuing your money isn't the same thing as valuing you but valuing your genes is synonymous with valuing you as a mate.
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@fauxlaw
You're a mormon lil' bro, pipe down. You believe Joseph Smith found magic gold tablets that just so happened to disappear so no one could see them and that the bible predicted his coming but it was edited out of the bible but he totally knew it happened because God told him even though he was the only source saying that. Mormons are fucking retarded, and every time you vote on my debates you prove that mormons are retarded because my arguments go over your head.
If you really need to be told about all the horrible things that happen in this world because you live such a privileged sheltered little mormon life that you think life is all sunshine and rainbows, then what you really need is to have a Sidhartha Gautama moment where you step outside the palace and see the real world for yourself.
If you really need to be told about all the horrible things that happen in this world because you live such a privileged sheltered little mormon life that you think life is all sunshine and rainbows, then what you really need is to have a Sidhartha Gautama moment where you step outside the palace and see the real world for yourself.
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@Savant
The physical attraction is a prerequisite for caring about your personality.
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@TheGreatSunGod
The strategy is to find someone who sees you as 100% her type, that's literally it. Redpill stuff can only make a 5 into a 7 etc. If you aren't a woman's type at all she will NEVER like you.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Having a gf won't last or be fulfilling unless she adores you. I have a gf (surprising I know) and she is autistic and she loves me very much. I am telling you that I don't have to do anything but be myself because she sees me as a 10. I have tried all sorts of red pill game on all sorts of women and it never works because I'm not conventionally attractive. 90% of the battle is just being "her type" and for ALL neurotypical women the type is the same and chances are no one reading this is that type.
Many think their gf or wife loves them even though they aren't chads and aren't dating autistic women, these people with 100% certainty are simply unaware of the different levels of attraction and how differently she would treat certain guys who she probably thinks she wouldn't even be able to get with but would drop her panties for the second she has a chance.
Many think their gf or wife loves them even though they aren't chads and aren't dating autistic women, these people with 100% certainty are simply unaware of the different levels of attraction and how differently she would treat certain guys who she probably thinks she wouldn't even be able to get with but would drop her panties for the second she has a chance.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Women who marry for money and power are just using the guy. It isn't a desirable situation at all. The ideal relationship is one where the woman adores the guy completely and the guy appreciates her adoration completely. This can only be achieved when the woman sees the guy as 10/10 and sees herself as lower than him and inferior to him. Women in this day and age will spew a bunch of feminism crap meanwhile they don't actually respect men who they see as their equal, because they have an innate hypergamous drive that tells them to seek out the most superior mate possible.
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@fauxlaw
1: There is more bad than good, so even being completely unbiased there is more to blame god for than to credit him for.
2: Any theist who believes God is good must do the opposite and cherry pick good things to credit God for while ignoring the horrible things that God does.
2: Any theist who believes God is good must do the opposite and cherry pick good things to credit God for while ignoring the horrible things that God does.
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@WyIted
Don't judge autism completely by his behavior, remember that he also has NPD.
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@TheGreatSunGod
I don't care what anyone thinks, the black pill is 100% true. Red pill mostly comes in handy for guys who would otherwise be seen as mid trying to compensate for their lack of innate attractiveness, but it will NEVER get you as far as being seen as a 10 by default will. Women's way of selecting mates isn't a culturally conditioned thing, they are genetically wired to have the exact same preferences and behaviors when it comes to finding a mate. If you are just plain unattractive to them there is no strategy you can employ to win them over, if you are highly attractive to them there is no strategy you would even need to employ. Your genetics will literally do all the heavy lifting as long as they see you as 8-10/10
There is only one way around it, unironically you have to date autistic women. Only neurodivergent women can have the attraction mechanisms "broken" so they aren't programmed exactly the same as other girls and attracted to the same guys. It has to be autism specifically because other mental illnesses come with more baggage and toxicity in most cases. No neurotypical woman can ever be fully in love with someone who isn't a chad, but autistic girls can have way more of an individualized type that they prefer. You STILL have to fit the type though, it isn't that black pill doesn't apply it's just that they see a different type of guy as inherently more attractive.
There is only one way around it, unironically you have to date autistic women. Only neurodivergent women can have the attraction mechanisms "broken" so they aren't programmed exactly the same as other girls and attracted to the same guys. It has to be autism specifically because other mental illnesses come with more baggage and toxicity in most cases. No neurotypical woman can ever be fully in love with someone who isn't a chad, but autistic girls can have way more of an individualized type that they prefer. You STILL have to fit the type though, it isn't that black pill doesn't apply it's just that they see a different type of guy as inherently more attractive.
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1: the ideologue
These are people who usually only want to talk about one thing, and it's almost always politics. 99% of the time they either only want to talk about how much they hate Trump or how much they love Trump. These are usually older individuals who are incredibly stubborn and incredibly indoctrinated. They will never change their mind, and they will never see more than one side of an argument, preferring to stick to the narrow band of information they get from one set of biased news sources or another.
2: the chameleon
They don't care about truth, they don't care about exploring topics with an open mind, they don't even care about pushing their beliefs, they only care about winning debates. If you debate this type they will only use semantic arguments and try to reframe the debate to their advantage. This type has no principles or integrity, they only care about winning and everyone here falls under this type to an extent but only a few are fully committed to it.
3: the uptight
These types tend to win a lot of debates, with their highly structured arguments that tend to exploit technicalities and details the opponent missed. These people almost always seem to have OCD and be "lawful" types who are rigid about etiquette and rules. This type is the most likely to become a mod and the most likely to be high on the leaderboard.
4: the rebel
These types aren't afraid to get under people's skin, their demeanor can range from incessant trolling to passionately defending their unorthodox points of view. I for example definitely fit under this type. This type is the most likely to get banned or to be low on the leaderboard, not necessarily because they are bad at debating but because nobody likes or agrees with them.
5: the uptight/rebel hybrid
These are like the uptight except they have more unorthodox opinions and are more indirect and cunning in their debate style. They are not trolls like the rebels are but they are also not as good at getting along with everyone like the uptight are (the uptight don't get along with the rebels though, whereas the hybrid type can be friends or enemies with either one of those two types on an individual basis).
6: the whimsical butterfly
These types don't like debating about serious topics, they usually start stupid debates like "is cereal a type of soup". These are the most likely users to be minors or to quit the site after having 1 or 2 debates.
7: the lurker
they're watching us, but they aren't one of us
8: the NPC
They behave similar to the first type, but they only engage with the most over-debated and surface level normie issues. They will do 500 debates about a narrow range of topics like gun control and abortion.
These are people who usually only want to talk about one thing, and it's almost always politics. 99% of the time they either only want to talk about how much they hate Trump or how much they love Trump. These are usually older individuals who are incredibly stubborn and incredibly indoctrinated. They will never change their mind, and they will never see more than one side of an argument, preferring to stick to the narrow band of information they get from one set of biased news sources or another.
2: the chameleon
They don't care about truth, they don't care about exploring topics with an open mind, they don't even care about pushing their beliefs, they only care about winning debates. If you debate this type they will only use semantic arguments and try to reframe the debate to their advantage. This type has no principles or integrity, they only care about winning and everyone here falls under this type to an extent but only a few are fully committed to it.
3: the uptight
These types tend to win a lot of debates, with their highly structured arguments that tend to exploit technicalities and details the opponent missed. These people almost always seem to have OCD and be "lawful" types who are rigid about etiquette and rules. This type is the most likely to become a mod and the most likely to be high on the leaderboard.
4: the rebel
These types aren't afraid to get under people's skin, their demeanor can range from incessant trolling to passionately defending their unorthodox points of view. I for example definitely fit under this type. This type is the most likely to get banned or to be low on the leaderboard, not necessarily because they are bad at debating but because nobody likes or agrees with them.
5: the uptight/rebel hybrid
These are like the uptight except they have more unorthodox opinions and are more indirect and cunning in their debate style. They are not trolls like the rebels are but they are also not as good at getting along with everyone like the uptight are (the uptight don't get along with the rebels though, whereas the hybrid type can be friends or enemies with either one of those two types on an individual basis).
6: the whimsical butterfly
These types don't like debating about serious topics, they usually start stupid debates like "is cereal a type of soup". These are the most likely users to be minors or to quit the site after having 1 or 2 debates.
7: the lurker
they're watching us, but they aren't one of us
8: the NPC
They behave similar to the first type, but they only engage with the most over-debated and surface level normie issues. They will do 500 debates about a narrow range of topics like gun control and abortion.
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@Shila
Much too far, I need to find a heroin dealer and get my parents to kick me out ASAP.
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@TheGreatSunGod
how does draconian meditation work and is it something jesus would approve of?
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@zedvictor4
My goal is actually to reach a point where I am calm and content. I was lying at the end of the verse.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I'm ready to use live ferrets as nunchakku to assault people with.
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